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Thread ID: 18455 | Posts: 7 | Started: 2005-05-30
2005-05-30 14:38 | User Profile
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The Bush Butcherââ¬â¢s Bill: Officially, 72 US Military Deaths in Iraq from 2 through 25 May, 2005 ââ¬â Official Total of 1,735 US Dead to date (and rising)
U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1 January, 2005. The ongoing, underreporting of the dead in Iraq, is not accurate. The DoD is deliberately reducing the figures. A review of many foreign news sites show that actual deaths are far higher than the newly reduced ones. Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the numbers are just under 100,000.
by Brian Harring, Domestic Intelligence Reporter
Note: There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq. We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially. The educated rumor is that the actual death toll is in excess of 7,000. Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded, this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 1,400+ now being officially published. When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities. (See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 either deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate almost 9,000 dead, over 16,000 seriously wounded and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers , rapes, courts martial and so on ââ¬â Brian Harring
2005-05-30 14:46 | User Profile
Well, it's hard to believe at first reading, but at this point, and considering the onslaught of lies that got us to this point in our historic debacle in Iraq, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this information is true.
It's just a sad reality in which we live.
2005-05-30 15:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Well, it's hard to believe at first reading, but at this point, and considering the onslaught of lies that got us to this point in our historic debacle in Iraq, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this information is true.
It's just a sad reality in which we live.[/QUOTE]
I'd read a lengthy article featuring a series of interviews with surgeons and nurses stationed at a U.S. military hospital in Germany, over at [url]http://www.Counterpunch.org[/url], in which they were quite explicit about the fact that American military personnel who died at or en route to the hospital were not counted as part of the Iraq War dead, 'cause they hadn't actually friggin' died in Iraq. This article here is just the first time, at least that I'm aware of, where my suspicion that literally the majority of our war dead aren't being counted as such has received a degree of confirmation.
Such sickening and dishonorable cowardice and treacherous deception on the part of our so-called "leaders" constitutes quite sufficient moral basis for advocating their removal from office, and I have no doubt Messrs. Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc., would heartily agree.
2005-05-30 22:54 | User Profile
I hope someone can find positive proof of this.
2005-05-31 02:21 | User Profile
Here's a supposedly comprehensive list of all casualties:
[url]http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/[/url]
Presumably out of the 5,400 dead who are not on the list (if the original article is correct) someone's relative would have noticed that they weren't on it and raised hell?
Some of the entries in the list mention soldiers who weren't killed in Iraq:
[QUOTE]Lance Cpl. Cedric E. Bruns 22 6th Engineer Support Battalion, 4th Marine Force Service Support Group Vancouver, Washington Killed in a non-hostile vehicle accident in Kuwait on May 9, 2003[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]1st Sgt. Michael J. Bordelon 37 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade (Stryker Brigade Combat Team), 25th Infantry Division Morgan City, Louisiana Died on May 10, 2005, at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas, of wounds sustained when a car bomb detonated near his Stryker military vehicle in Mosul, Iraq, on April 23, 2005[/QUOTE]
2005-05-31 02:37 | User Profile
Faust? I cannot show you the evidence that I have because it came by word of mouth form my Dr. at the VA hospital and also from a US Army Major that I spoke to at the poker club where I stayed overnight.
I wont give you the numbers that they gave me because is hard to believe, not only from the American side but also from the Iraqi side and forget about the civilians.
2005-06-02 23:31 | User Profile
I think a simple FOIA request for "all US active duty and reserve military who died between 1 January 2003 and 1 June 2005 would reveal the scope of the difference. Somewhere in the annual report to Congress, thje Sec Def by law has to account for all of the deaths due to accidents and such "non combat" related deaths. That might shed some light on where some of the casualties are "hidden" in order of magnitude.
There have to be a few Congressfolk who would benefit from uncovering a cover up of that magnitude, wouldn't there? Surely their people are keeping an eye on the accounting.
Or maybe not, and I am deluded.
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]Here's a supposedly comprehensive list of all casualties:
[url="http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/"]http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/[/url]
Presumably out of the 5,400 dead who are not on the list (if the original article is correct) someone's relative would have noticed that they weren't on it and raised hell?
Some of the entries in the list mention soldiers who weren't killed in Iraq:[/QUOTE]