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2005-05-22 19:35 | User Profile
**"JERUSALEM - Protesters besieged Laura Bush during her visit Sunday to two of Jerusalem's most sacred sites, with Israeli police locking arms to restrain the crowd and Secret Service agents packed tightly around America's first lady. **
Stepping into the long-running Mideast conflict, she appealed for Israelis and Palestinians to commit to working for peace and said Americans "will do what they can in this process."
The demonstrations at the Western Wall and the Dome of the Rock showed "what an emotional place this is as we go from each one of these very, very holy sites to the next," Mrs. Bush said later in the West Bank town of Jericho as she stood at the ruins of the 8th-century Hisham's Palace.
"We're reminded again of what every one of us would want. ... What we all want is peace and the chance that we have right now to have peace, to have a Palestinian state living by a secure state of Israel, both living in democracy, is as close as we've been in a really long time," she said at an ancient home of Islamic spiritual leaders.
Mrs. Bush, who is on a tour intended partly to help defuse anti-American sentiment in the region, placed a note in the Western Wall, Judaism's holiest shrine. She wrote the note on the flight Sunday from Jordan to Israel, but wanted to keep the contents private, a spokeswoman said.
**Dozens of protesters stood nearby, shouting, "Free Pollard now." Jonathan Pollard, an American Jew who is serving life sentence in a U.S. prison for spying for Israel, was a civilian intelligence analyst for the U.S. Navy.
The first lady was mobbed by protesters and local reporters, and Secret Service agents and Israeli police had to physically hold back the crowd as she approached the wall.**
She then went to the Dome of the Rock, a mosque on a hilltop compound known to Muslims as Haram as-Sharif and to Jews as Temple Mount. As she left the mosque, one heckler yelled, "How dare you come in here! Why your husband kill Muslim?"
Mrs. Bush removed her shoes as she entered the mosque and walked barefoot on the red carpet. She held a black scarf tightly around her head as she gazed up at the gilded dome and the colorful mosaics on the marble walls.
Some of the women studying inside the mosque were clearly annoyed at the intrusion and waved their fingers at the U.S. entourage. Despite the chaos at both sites, Mrs. Bush kept smiling and said little.
In Jericho, which is under Palestinian control, security was tight and no protesters were evident when Mrs. Bush visited the ruins and met at a hotel with leading Palestinian women.
"As you can tell from our day here, this is a place of emotions everywhere we went, from the Dome of the Rock to the Western Wall" she told reporters at the palace ruins.
As for the peace process, Mrs. Bush said the U.S. would do whatever it could, but that both sides share responsibility in helping achieve peace.
"It will take a lot of baby steps and I'm sure that there will be a few steps backward on the way, but I want to encourage the people I met with earlier, the women I just met with, that the United States will do what they can in this process," Mrs. Bush said.
"It also requires the work of the people here, of the Palestinians and the Israelis, to come to the table obviously, and we'll see," she said.
The first lady met in Jericho with leading Palestinian women before visiting the palace. Earlier, she held talks with Gila Katsav, the wife of Israel's president, and other leading Israeli women.
Anti-American sentiment is running high in the Mideast because of a variety of factors, including a now-retracted report in Newsweek that Pentagon investigators had found evidence interrogators at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, placed copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, in washrooms to unsettle suspects and flushed a Quran down a toilet.
"We in principle don't reject anyone's visit to the Al Aqsa Mosque (compound), but we see in the visit of Mrs. Bush an attempt to whitewash the face of the United States, after the crimes that the American interrogators had committed when they desecrated the Quran," the militant Islamic Hamas group said in a statement on its Web site.
Adnan Husseini, director of the Islamic Trust that administers the mosque compound, said Mrs. Bush tried to play down the heckling, saying it could have happened anywhere.
Husseini said he told her he hoped President Bush would exert pressure to achieve peace in the Holy Land. Bush is meeting on Thursday at the White House with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.
Later Sunday, Mrs. Bush laid a wreath at Yad Vashem, the Israeli memorial for the 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis in the Holocaust of World War II.
She wrote in the visitors' book at the site: "Each life is precious. Each memory calls us to action to honor those lost. We committ ourselves to reject hatred and to teach tolerance and live in peace. Thank you."
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2005-05-22 19:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle] Dozens of protesters stood nearby, shouting, "Free Pollard now." Jonathan Pollard, an American Jew who is serving life sentence in a U.S. prison for spying for Israel, was a civilian intelligence analyst for the U.S. Navy.[/QUOTE]This traitor should have been put to death years ago. I am afraid, Bush obeying orders of his boss Ariel Sharon, will pardon the slimely Pollard as his last act in office.
2005-05-22 19:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Otto Skorzeny]This traitor should have been put to death years ago. I am afraid, Bush obeying orders of his boss Ariel Sharon, will pardon the slimely Pollard as his last act in office.[/QUOTE]
I agree, he should have been put to death.
2005-05-22 20:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Otto Skorzeny]This traitor should have been put to death years ago. I am afraid, Bush obeying orders of his boss Ariel Sharon, will pardon the slimely Pollard as his last act in office.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Pollard's treason cost the lives of dozens of our agents in the Warsaw bloc.
This arrogant zhid should have been sizzled on the Rosenbergs' electric chair half an eon ago.
2005-05-22 21:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Stepping into the long-running Mideast conflict, she appealed for Israelis and Palestinians to commit to working for peace and said Americans "will do what they can in this process."[/QUOTE] The best thing the US can do is to cut off Israel's sugar tit and leave the area. If we're lucky the Great Rift Valley will open up and the entire area to the west of it will slide off into the Eastern Mediterranean basin and joined Atlantis.
Come to think of it it wouldn't bother me if Mecca suffered the same fate.
2005-05-22 23:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]
Come to think of it it wouldn't bother me if Mecca suffered the same fate.[/QUOTE] Thought: If one buys just the right a bit of desert property now, when that 'Mecca falls into the rift' happens, you have sweet beachfront property in the Red Sea. The hard part is to work the Saudi legal system to own property in the Arab Holy Land as a Christian . . . tricky. And if you have to hire an international lawyer to help . . . oh dear, have I hit on yet another vicious circle? :eek:
2005-05-22 23:21 | User Profile
It's an example of Jews taking 10 miles per inch where everyone else just takes the standard mile. Unbelievable. The wife of arguably the most pro-Israel U.S. president of all time, and the greasy Jews boo her. And not even the New York Zionist Post will defend Pollard.
2005-05-22 23:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]It's an example of Jews taking 10 miles per inch where everyone else just takes the standard mile. Unbelievable. The wife of arguably the most pro-Israel U.S. president of all time, and the greasy Jews boo her. And not even the New York Zionist Post will defend Pollard.[/QUOTE]It's certainly despicable and ungrateful on the part of the kikes, but I'm glad they booed her anyway. Who knows, maybe it'll give her husband some pause for thought before he fellates Sharon again.
2005-05-23 10:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]Pollard's treason cost the lives of dozens of our agents in the Warsaw bloc.[/QUOTE]Pollard's not the traitor. He was and remains loyal to his race. Bush is the traitor, his wife an accomplice:
[QUOTE]Later Sunday, Mrs. Bush laid a wreath at Yad Vashem, the Israeli memorial for the 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis in the Holocaust of World War II. [/QUOTE]
2005-05-23 12:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]The best thing the US can do is to cut off Israel's sugar tit and leave the area. If we're lucky the Great Rift Valley will open up and the entire area to the west of it will slide off into the Eastern Mediterranean basin and joined Atlantis.
Come to think of it it wouldn't bother me if Mecca suffered the same fate.[/QUOTE]
If only... :)
2005-05-23 13:31 | User Profile
On JudeoFreeRepublic, this story magically morphs into..."Moslems Try to Attack Laura Bush on Temple Mount", and Jonathan Pollard is referred to as the "jailed intelligence expert".
[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408118/posts[/url]
2005-05-23 18:54 | User Profile
Recluse,
I guess that is where Neal Boortz got his information for this nonsense:
ISLAMIC HOSPITALITY
Yesterday First Lady Laura Bush, on a tour of the Middle East, visited The Dome of the Rock mosque in Jerusalem. This is considered one of Islam's holiest sites. After her tour, trouble began. About 50 protesters surrounded her and her Secret Service detail and started chanting and pushing closer, saying things like "How dare you come here" and "You don't belong in this mosque." Ahhhh ... those wonderful, hospitable, peace-loving Muslims. Don't you just love them?
So why would a bunch of Islamic malcontents interrupt a peaceful visit by the First Lady of the United States? Aside from the fact that they hate the United States and despise George Bush in general, what took place at that mosque yesterday goes right to the heart of how Islam treats women.
Most reasonable people, even if they disagree with the policies of her husband, don't hold it against Laura Bush. She has a very high approval rating. That's the civilized way to look at it. But not in the Middle East...where the violent religion of Islam is the order of the day.
But this was a sloppy security breach. Israeli security had to link arms and get the First Lady and the Secret Service out of there in a hurry. Any one of those Islamofascist cretins could have pulled the rip cord on a suicide bomb and blown everyone to smithereens. This comes on the heels of the grenade incident with the president in Georgia the other day.
Another close call...things are slipping a bit in the presidential security department.
What I found funny was the Atlanta Journal Constitution story I read this morning about this:
Protesters greet Laura Bush
Arabs, Jews heckle first lady during visit to Jerusalem By Nedra Pickler Associated Press
Protesters besieged Laura Bush during her visit to two of Jerusalem's most sacred sites, with Israeli police locking arms to restrain the crowd and U.S. Secret Service agents packed tightly around America's first lady.
Stepping into the longest running Middle East conflict, she appealed for Israelis and Palestinians to commit to working for peace and said Americans "will do what they can in this process."
The demonstrations at the Western Wall and the Dome of the Rock showed "what an emotional place this is," Bush said later in the West Bank town of Jericho as she stood at the ruins of the eighth-century Hisham's Palace, an ancient home of Islamic spiritual leaders.
"What we all want is peace, and the chance that we have right now to have peace, to have a Palestinian state living by a secure state of Israel, both living in democracy, is as close as we've been in a really long time," she said.
Bush, who is on a tour intended partly to help defuse anti-American sentiment in the region, placed a note in the Western Wall, Judaism's holiest shrine. She wrote the note during her flight Sunday from Jordan to Israel, and she wanted to keep the contents private, a spokeswoman said.
[B]Dozens of protesters stood nearby, shouting, "Free Pollard now!" Jonathan Pollard, an American Jew and former civilian intelligence analyst for the U.S. Navy, is serving a life sentence for spying for Israel.
The first lady was mobbed by protesters and local reporters, and Secret Service agents and Israeli police had to hold back the crowd as she approached the wall. [/B] Bush then went to the Dome of the Rock, a mosque on a hilltop compound known to Muslims as Haram as-Sharif and to Jews as the Temple Mount. As she left the mosque, one heckler yelled, 'How dare you come in here! Why your husband kill Muslim?"
Bush removed her shoes as she entered the mosque and walked barefoot on the red carpet. Some of the women studying in the mosque were clearly annoyed at the intrusion and waved their fingers at the U.S. entourage.
In Jericho, which is under Palestinian control, security was tight and no protesters were evident when Bush visited the ruins and met at a hotel with leading Palestinian women.
She said the United States would do whatever it could to advance the peace process, but that both sides share responsibility in helping achieve peace.
Earlier, she held talks with Gila Katsav, the wife of Israel's president. and other leading Israeli women.
============================ Boortz reads the same paper. Hell, he works for the same company that owns the radio station AND the paper.
Laura Bush Not Surprised by Protests By NEDRA PICKLER Associated Press Writer
ABU GHOSH, Israel ââ¬â Laura Bush said Monday she was not surprised to be met by protesters during her tour of Mideast holy sites and pledged the United States will do all it can to help resolve age-old conflicts.
"As we all know, this is a place of very high tensions and high emotions," the first lady said while standing in the garden courtyard of the Church of the Resurrection. "And you can understand why when you see the people with a deep and sincere faith in their religion all living side by side."
Mrs. Bush said the protesters who heckled her during Sunday's visits to the Dome of the Rock and the Western Wall did not surprise her and she denied that they overshadowed her goodwill visit.
"I think the protests were very expected. If you didn't expect them, you didn't know what it would be like when you got here," she said. "Everyone knows how the tensions are and, believe me, I was very, very welcomed by most people."
Mrs. Bush was visiting sites sacred to all three major religions born in the region, winding up with a stop Monday at the Church of the Resurrection at Abu Ghosh, a predominantly Muslim town where some believe Jesus appeared on Easter.
"I think that Abu Ghosh, as we leave Israel, can show us what it's like when the people of three religions that have so many holy sites here in the Holy Land indeed can live in peace with each other," she said.
As Mrs. Bush toured the 12th-century church, nuns and monks sang Psalm 150 in Hebrew as a symbol of the religious cultures coexisting in the region.
From Israel, Mrs. Bush traveled to Cairo, where she met with Egyptian first lady Suzanne Mubarak at Ittihadiyya Palace. The two women then taped a segment for "Alam Simsim," the Egyptian version of "Sesame Street," with a peach-colored puppet named Khokha. "Mama Suzanne" and "Auntie Laura," as Khokha called the first ladies, talked about the importance of reading to children.
Mrs. Bush's low-key travels Monday were in contrast to her stops Sunday at sites sacred to Muslims and Jews.
Asked about the protests during an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," Mrs. Bush said she understands resentments that have been built up, in part because of reports and pictures of prisoner abuse.
"I know from visiting Afghanistan ... that many, many people are glad our troops are there, that we are giving them a chance to rebuild their country," she said. "All of us, everyone ... deplore the photographs that we've seen, the reports that we've heard of prisoner abuse, but that's not really not what happens (with U.S. forces) ... This is a handful of people."
She said she feels that the American presence in the Middle East and Southwest Asia "is really wanted and is needed" to ensure nation-building and peacemaking.
Asked on NBC's "Today" show if she had felt endangered during the tours in the Middle East, the first lady replied, "No, I did not at all. I think maybe the reports that you all have seen have been slightly exaggerated. ... I have never felt at all unsafe."
At the Western Wall, Judaism's holiest shrine, protesters demanded that the U.S. release Jonathan Pollard, a Jewish American imprisoned for spying for Israel. During a visit to the Dome of the Rock, Mrs. Bush faced heckling from angry Palestinians. One man yelled, "How dare you come in here! Why your husband kill Muslim?"
Mrs. Bush's five-day visit was intended partly to help defuse anti-American sentiment in the region. Strains have arisen because of the U.S.-led war in Iraq and allegations that American interrogators have mistreated Muslim prisoners.
Some visitors that Mrs. Bush encountered near the Dome of the Rock, a mosque on a hilltop compound known to Muslims as Haram as-Sharif and to Jews as Temple Mount, shouted at her in Arabic. "None of you belong in here!" one man yelled as Mrs. Bush and her entourage arrived.
Mrs. Bush removed her shoes as she entered the mosque and walked barefoot on the red carpet. She held a black scarf tightly around her head as she gazed up at the gilded dome and the colorful mosaics.
May 23, 2005 - 8:08 a.m. Copyright 2005, The Associated Press.
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A rather extensive re-write, I'd say. Since this was posted the story on the website doesn't even mention this. Instead, it is about Egyptian elections. The story has since been removed from the website. Note the same byline for both stories above.
From the AFP:
JERUSALEM (AFP) - US First Lady Laura Bush faced Palestinian and Israeli protests as she toured Jewish and Muslim holy sites in Jerusalem's Old City during a one-day visit to Israel and the West Bank
Wearing a black headscarf and accompanied by the wife of Israeli President Moshe Katsav, Bush spent a few moments of silence in the women's section at Judaism's holiest shrine, the Western Wall, which is last remnant of the Second Temple destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD.
Security was bristling around her as she placed a prayer note between the stones of the ancient wall, with the nearest female worshippers kept a clear two metres (yards) away.
Among the bystanders, dozens of young women waved photographs of Jonathan Pollard, a Jewish American who was jailed for life in 1987 in the United States on charges of spying for Israel.
A slightly larger group of men, some of them symbolically handcuffed, also shouted slogans calling for Pollard's release.
At the Al-Aqsa mosque compound, the third holiest site in Islam which overlooks the Wailing Wall, the response to her visit was slightly more hostile, with a handful of protestors shouting "Death to America" as she entered the golden-topped Dome of the Rock.
But the visit passed peacefully, arousing little interest among local Palestinian stallholders, who dismissed the trip by the wife of US President George W. Bush as little more than a photo opportunity for the media.
"It's mainly a publicity stunt," said Mazen, a 50-year-old carpet seller. "What we want to see is results on the ground. President Bush promised to resolve the conflict two years ago, but nothing has changed."
"Band of criminials," snorted Hassanin, 43, referring to the Bush family. "We don't care about any American presidents or their wives. They don't help us."
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050522/wl_mideast_afp/mideastisrael[/url]
That doesn't look like Abu Mazen on those posters, nor do those people look like Palestinians. Must be eskimos
Of course he does give himself a disclaimer about readera believing anything he says.
2005-05-23 20:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Recluse]On JudeoFreeRepublic, this story magically morphs into..."Moslems Try to Attack Laura Bush on Temple Mount", and Jonathan Pollard is referred to as the "jailed intelligence expert".[/QUOTE]Free Republic is pulling posting privilages on anyone who tries to post the original AP story. American intelligence agents got killed because of Pollard. The people who run Free Republic are no American Patriots. They behave the same way regarding the attack on the USS Liberty during the Six Day War. They side with a foreign power despite that 34 American servicemen died and 172 were wounded.
Story on Pollard in 1999:
[url="http://www.amenusa.org/spy16.htm"]http://www.amenusa.org/spy16.htm[/url]
[center][color=black]Source: by Eric Margolis The Toronto Sun, Jan. 14, 1999[/color][/center]
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[center][size=6][color=black]Jonathan Pollard Was No Jewish Patriot[/color][/size][size=6][/center] [/size]
[left][color=black]The case of convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Jay Pollard has again reared its ugly head. American Jewish groups, Hollywood celebrities and Israel have renewed pressure on the besieged Clinton administration to free the man they call "the Jewish Dreyfus." Pollard has served 13 years of a life sentence.[/color][/left]
[color=black]President Bill Clinton is loath to antagonize America's politically powerful Jewish community, which strongly supports the Democratic party. But the president is also under intense pressure from the national security community not to free the Israeli spy. CIA director George Tenent has threatened to resign if Pollard is pardoned. Seven former U.S. secretaries of defence, some of whom are Jewish, also demanded Pollard remain in prison for life.[/color]
[color=black]After years of denials, Israel finally admitted Pollard, a U.S. Navy civilian analyst, was not a "rogue agent," as it originally claimed, but a spy for Israeli intelligence.[/color]
[color=black]Pollard caused enormous damage to U.S. national security. He gave Israel top-secret U.S. military intelligence and diplomatic codes; names of nearly 100 U.S. agents in the Mideast, who were then "turned" by Israel; NSA code-breaking techniques and targets; intercepts of foreign communications; and U.S. war-fighting plans for the Mideast.[/color]
[color=black]According to CIA sources, Pollard provided Israeli intelligence with names of important American agents inside the formerSoviet Union and Russia who had supplied information on East Bloc weapons and war plans. How the agents' names were linked to the secrets they supplied - a major breach of basic intelligence security - remains a mystery.[/color]
[color=black]Some of the enormously sensitive secrets stolen by Pollard may have been either sold, or bartered, by Israel to the Soviet Union.[/color]
[color=black]A number of key CIA agents in the East Bloc were allegedly executed as a result of Pollard's spying. The KGB likely gained access to top-secret U.S. codes - either directly from Israel, or through spies in Israel's government. In short, Pollard's treachery caused one of the worst security disasters in modern U.S. history.[/color]
[color=black]FBI investigators discovered Pollard was being directed to steal specific secret data by a senior administration official, known as "Mr. X." But the White House, unwilling to stir up a domestic political storm, quashed the investigation.[/color]
[color=black]To my knowledge, three previous cases of high-ranking U.S. government officials caught passing top-secret information to Israel have been similarly hushed up. Two were senior defence department officials under Ronald Reagan, one a top state department official in a previous administration. None was prosecuted.[/color]
[color=black]Pollard's defenders claim he, like French Capt. Alfred Dreyfus in 1894, is a victim of anti-Semitism in the military. They maintain Pollard was "only" spying for a friendly country, motivated solely by concern for Israel's security. These assertions are patently false. Pollard was suspected for some time of spying. Investigation was held off precisely because of fears of raising cries of anti-Semitism. Pollard took large sums of money and jewelry from Israeli agents in payment for spying.[/color]
[color=black]With remarkable chutzpah, Israel, which receives up to $5 billion in U.S. aid annually, refuses to return documents stolen by Pollard, or allow U.S. intelligence to debrief Mossad agents who ran Pollard in order to learn the full extent of the disaster. While Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu kept calling for Pollard's release on "humanitarian" grounds, he refused to free prisoner of conscience Mordechai Vanunu, now serving 18 years in solitary confinement in Israel for telling a British newspaper about Israel's nuclear arsenal.[/color]
[color=black]Pollard is no Jewish patriot. He is a traitor who sold out his country, and fellow intelligence officers, for money, then claimed he was being persecuted by anti-Semites.[/color]
[color=black]Victim he is not. To the contrary, Pollard is a poster boy for anti-Semitism. His treason unfairly exposes all American Jews to hate, and accusations of doubtful loyalty.[/color]
[color=black]Jonathan Pollard is a traitor of the worst kind - not a second Dreyfus - and should stay in prison.[/color]
2005-05-23 21:36 | User Profile
Apologies for the snipping. [QUOTE=Otto Skorzeny] 1. Free Republic is pulling posting privilages on anyone who tries to post the original AP story. American intelligence agents got killed because of Pollard. The people who run Free Republic are no American Patriots. They behave the same way regarding the attack on the USS Liberty during the Six Day War. They side with a foreign power despite that 34 American servicemen died and 172 were wounded.
Amen on the USS Liberty.
If Pollard has life in prison, at our expense, why not just execute him? Save a dollar or two off the tax bill. A penny saved is a penny earned, and he'd quit using up good peoples' oxygen.
2005-05-24 00:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]It's an example of Jews taking 10 miles per inch where everyone else just takes the standard mile. Unbelievable. The wife of arguably the most pro-Israel U.S. president of all time, and the greasy Jews boo her. And not even the New York Zionist Post will defend Pollard.[/QUOTE]So much for our "only and best friend in the region" :lol:
Odd thing was today Laura was going to Egypt, and they were contrasting how warm her reaction there was compared to yesterday.
It figures though. Israeli's have no respect or gratitutde really for people who traitorsly grovel to help them. Remember when they turned the names of all their undercover Palestenian agents over to Arafat (who killed them all)?
As soon as Bush, JR, whoever fulfills their function, they'll throw them in the shitcan.