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Thread ID: 18297 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2005-05-18
2005-05-18 22:48 | User Profile
Ambassador to visit Pollard in jail today By Nathan Guttman
WASHINGTON - Israel Ambassador to the U.S. Danny Ayalon is due to visit Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard in his North Carolina prison today. This will be the first time that an Israeli ambassador will be visiting Pollard, who was sentenced to life after being convicted of spying in March 1987.
Israeli sources said the purpose of Ayalon's visit is to examine Pollard's condition, and to convey to him that the Israeli government is concerned about him.
Pollard has previously received delegation visits of Knesset members and activists for his release, but the decision to send the ambassador as an official representative of Israel is seen as a change in Israeli policy.
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon spoke during his last visit to Washington of Ayalon's planned visit with Pollard, and Israeli officials advised the U.S. administration of this intention.
Pollard is continuing the legal struggle for his release via the American justice system, and has recently petitioned the High Court of Justice in Israel, demanding to be recognized as a Prisoner of Zion. Pollard's petition says he has undergone torture and harassment during his years of incarceration in the U.S. prison. [url]http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/576779.html[/url]
2005-05-18 23:23 | User Profile
There's a part of me that thinks Bush might pardon and release Pollard as one of his final treasonous acts at the end of his presidency. :furious:
2005-05-19 19:06 | User Profile
w w w . h a a r e t z . c o m Last update - 23:00 18/05/2005 Pollard accuses PM of exploiting his case to advance pullout plan By Nathan Guttman, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service
BUTNER, North Carolina - Jonathan Pollard, incarcerated for the past 20 years for spying on the United States on Israel's behalf, blamed Prime Minister Ariel Sharon with exploiting his predicament in an attempt to advance his disengagement plan.
Pollard also said Sharon doesn't really intend to work towards his release, Israel Radio reported Wednesday evening.
For two hours on Tuesday, the Israeli ambassador to the United States listened to Pollard's complaints.
This was Pollard's first visit from an Israeli ambassador since being jailed, but Danny Ayalon did not come to the Federal Correctional Facility here bearing any tidings. Following preparatory talks over the past few days with Sharon, all Ayalon could do is convey "a message of hope" from Sharon, and show an interest in the prisoner's condition.
Pollard was less than pleased.
"I was deeply disappointed and disgusted," he told Ayalon. "After 20 years I was hoping for a serious meeting, and instead all I got is an empty gesture and pointless meeting."
Pollard said Ayalon's visit had led to no improvement in his condition, and asked Ayalon to make clear to Sharon that he would not cooperate with any more "tricks" against him by the Israeli government.
The Israeli spy also told Ayalon that if the Israeli government cannot obtain his release, then the Israeli people must be informed that the state of relations between the two countries is not as good as is being presented.
Ayalon confirmed that the conversation with Pollard had been tough, and said that after 20 years in prison, Pollard certainly has feelings of resentment toward Israel.
"I came to him with a message of strengthening and support from the government and people in Israel," Ayalon said afterward, and rejected Pollard's complaints that the government is not doing enough for his release.
His wife, Esther Pollard, has been living for two and a half years at a shabby motel, a 10-minute drive from her husband's prison. She hosted the ambassador in her modest room, gesturing cynically at the furniture: "This is the living room, and here's the bedroom, and here's the kitchen."
In the corner hangs a gleaming orange flag with a slogan of support for Gush Katif residents.
Under orders from the Prime Minister's Bureau, reporters were not allowed to attend Pollard's meeting with Ayalon, but his wife spoke for him. "It's a trick," she said of the official visit. "The prime minister wanted Tennenbaum released and Tennenbaum's home. He wanted Azzam Azzam released and Azzam Azzam is home. But with Jonathan it's only talk and no action. The prime minister is simply lying, that's obvious."
Ayalon left the motel with a Free Pollard rubber bracelet. At the prison entrance, he had the back of his hand stamped by the guard, denoting he had passed a security inspection.
The Butner facility is surrounded by green lawns, but Esther Pollard, who visits her husband every two days, says the facade is misleading, and that it's hell inside. Pollard himself told Ayalon that he had suffered torture and abuse, as well as harsh treatment by wardens. He wasn't allowed to replace broken glasses or to accept a new skullcap from Rabbi Mordechai Eliahu. For Pesach he received only one box of matza.
Pollard has rejected attempts at an Israeli-American deal linking his release to the implementation of the disengagement plan. He opposes the disengagement, and believes Israel should not have to pay for his release since it already paid the price with the Wye Accord.
The official visit to the agent who got caught did not bring solace to any of the parties.
"It's an insult," his wife said of the meeting, while Ayalon shrugged and made clear that all he can offer is sympathy and concern.
He said he intended to revisit the prisoner, but the question of Pollard's future will only be determined at the most senior political level, between Israel and the United States.
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Angler,
Despite this story, I think you are probably correct about Bush and Pollard. I can imagine the "christian" Zionuts pushing for this.[URL=http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArtStEng.jhtml?itemNo=577739&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1&title='Haaretz%20-%20Israel%20News'#top]http://www.haaretz.com/[/URL]
2005-05-19 19:17 | User Profile
Under orders from the Prime Minister's Bureau, reporters were not allowed to attend Pollard's meeting with Ayalon, but his wife spoke for him. "It's a trick," she said of the official visit. "The prime minister wanted Tennenbaum released and Tennenbaum's home. He wanted Azzam Azzam released and Azzam Azzam is home. But with Jonathan it's only talk and no action. The prime minister is simply lying, that's obvious."
So, Fat Ariel the vampire is "ordering" American reporters on American soil not to cover an issue vital to American security?
I thought only "anti-semites" believed in such Tribal domination of the System Press...
2005-05-19 22:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]There's a part of me that thinks Bush might pardon and release Pollard as one of his final treasonous acts at the end of his presidency. :furious:[/QUOTE]
I hope he does. Gasoline on the fire, so to speak.
2005-05-19 22:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]I hope he does. Gasoline on the fire, so to speak.[/QUOTE]Good point. If Bush pardons Pollard it will be a blow to justice, but it really won't do any further damage to the US or help the Israelis in any significant way; furthermore, as you indicate, it will provide more ammo for use against the pro-Israel fifth column. So maybe there is a silver lining there.
2005-05-19 23:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]I hope he does. Gasoline on the fire, so to speak.[/QUOTE]
The Pollard case and the USS Liberty are the two issues that seem to get otherwise quiescent mainstream conservatives thinking about the Israeli lobby and its program of subversion (the neocons know this and keep their mouths shut about both as a general rule). I too hope that Pollard is released, it may inspire a few more people into connecting the dots.
2005-05-19 23:37 | User Profile
Y'all have me convinced.
[SIZE=5][COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]Free[/COLOR] Pollard [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue]Now![/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]and perhaps that will lead to the freeing of America from them.[/SIZE]
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[url]http://www.jonathanpollard.org/[/url]
OY! :biggrin:
2005-05-20 01:13 | User Profile
[quote=AntiYuppie]The Pollard case and the USS Liberty are the two issues that seem to get otherwise quiescent mainstream conservatives thinking about the Israeli lobby and its program of subversion (the neocons know this and keep their mouths shut about both as a general rule). I too hope that Pollard is released, it may inspire a few more people into connecting the dots. I'm a firm believer in the power of the USS Liberty issue in particular because it was the primary impetus behind my own awakening to the Jewish question. I think a lot of mileage can be gained by emphasizing it.
2005-05-20 16:24 | User Profile
[url]www.washingtontimes.com[/url] Israeli spy to stay in jail, U.S. says By Joseph Curl THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published May 19, 2005
The White House yesterday said that convicted spy Jonathan Pollard should remain in jail, rejecting efforts by top Israeli officials to win release of the ex-U.S. Navy intelligence analyst convicted of spying for Israel in the 1980s.
Asked about the administration's stance on Pollard, President Bush's spokesman, Scott McClellan, told The Washington Times: "No change. He is serving his sentence for spying."
The spy, sentenced to life in prison in 1987, has reappeared in headlines in the past few weeks. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, seeking to hold onto support among Israeli conservatives split by his plan to withdraw from Gaza this summer, raised the Pollard issue last month with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
And this week, Israeli Ambassador Daniel Ayalon met with Pollard in the Butner, N.C., prison where he is serving his sentence.
A spokesman at the National Security Council said Pollard's "legal status has not changed," despite efforts by Israeli officials to secure his release. The spokesman said the former U.S. naval intelligence official "continues to serve his term."
Jewish groups in Washington, including the American Jewish Committee, B'nai B'rith International and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, did not return phone calls seeking comment on the issue. But the three pro-Israel groups in the past have taken the stance that Pollard's penalty exceeded what others have received and that he should be released after serving nearly 20 years.
Earlier this month, Pollard presented a petition to the Israeli Supreme Court to be recognized as a prisoner of Zion. Pollard, a U.S.-born Jew who was granted Israeli citizenship in 1998, said in his petition that he had been the victim of both physical and mental torture during his lengthy imprisonment.
Pollard was displeased after his meeting with the Israeli ambassador to Washington. His wife told Israeli radio that her husband had told Mr. Ayalon that the convicted spy was ?sickened? by the lack of support provided by Israel to his cause.
"I appeal to the Israeli government to cease the lies, to no longer pretend they are worried about my fate and to do as much as they do to free other [Israeli] spies," Esther Pollard cited her husband as saying.
Pollard sold classified information to Israel between June 1984 and November 1985, but in his trial insisted that he had only provided information he thought the U.S. ally needed for its national security.
Federal officials disagreed, saying Pollard hurt America's relations with its Arab allies and endangered the U.S.-Israeli relationship. Secretary of Defense Caspar W. Weinberger said at the time that he was could not "conceive of a greater harm to national security than that caused by" Pollard.
ââ¬Â¢Jerry Seper contributed to this report.
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Of course we have to consider the source. It wouldn't be the first this administration lied and it won't be the last.
2005-05-20 16:44 | User Profile
Israel's admission that Pollard spied for them: [url]http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/9468/edition_id/181/format/html/displaystory.html[/url]
Natan Sharansky visit to Pollard last year: [url]http://www.fpp.co.uk/BoD/origins/Pollard/AP050204.html[/url]
2005-05-20 17:57 | User Profile
Come people, Pollard is nothing more than a pond (is that the word?) in the game that the US and the state of Israel are playing with the world.
Bush is telling America "look, look how firm I am with the state of Israel by keeping their spy in prison" but meanwhile he keeps giving them what ever they want.
By the way, could someone please explain to me why even though the state of Israel has "never" paid back any or the loans, from the hard earned money of Americans, they are holding bonds (debts) from the US to the tune of 16 billions dollars? does it make sense to you and do you think this is right?