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2005-05-16 00:08 | User Profile
[size=2]Just Plain Perverted! [u]This is a Major Story from "The Nation."[/u] [/size] [size=2][/size] [size=2][/size] [size=2]A don't-miss story following others revealing Christian Right sexual hypocrisy and abuse. Be safe - Lock up women, children and beasts of burden ...[/size]
[size=2] [/size][size=1][size=2] Former Wife of Dr. David Hager Claims He Continually Sodomized Her Against Her Will.
Hager is Bush's "Family Values" Appointee to the Advisory Committee for Reproductive Health Drugs in the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
"But it was the painful, invasive, totally nonconsensual nature of the [anal] sex that was so horrible." [/size][/size][size=1][size=2] Read all about Hager in [url="http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050530&s=mcgarvey"][color=#0000ff]The Nation[/color][/url].[/size]
[/size][size=1][size=2][url="http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/06/bizarre_sex_habits_of_the_extreme_rightwing.php#more"][color=#0000ff]Anti-Abortionist Terrorists Having Sex With Mules?[/color][/url] [url="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/05/pa-gop-family-values.html"][color=#0000ff]GOP Congressmen Choking Their Mistresses[/color][/url]? [url="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/05/spokanes-anti-gay-mayor-former-state.html"][color=#0000ff]Anti-Gay Repub Mayor Accused of`Child Molestation and Paying Off Gays for Sex[/color][/url]?
They are All Psychotic! Whoa! Lock up the women and children; the Republicans are in town.[/size]
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS [/size][font=arial,helvetica][font=Arial][size=1][color=#000000]http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/05/05/ana05014.html[/color][/size][/font][/font]
2005-05-16 02:17 | User Profile
If God doesn't strike down the Republicans he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.
2005-05-16 02:31 | User Profile
Let me firstly comment on the reputable sources here...so unbiased and legitimate. Anti-Bush T-shirts, anyone? How about anti-Bush bumper stickers?
You people will believe anything anti-Republican simply because you want to...meanwhile, you sing the praises of the abusive jew "Catholic" Pertouka, and hold him up as a great, Godly man. Unbelievable...
[Edit: You did notice the last name of that woman who was supposedly raped, by the way, I hope...]
2005-05-16 04:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Knute] [size=2] [/size][size=1] [/size][size=3][color=navy]Former Wife of Dr. David Hager Claims He Continually Sodomized Her Against Her Will.[/color][/size] [/QUOTE] Linda Carruth Davis--co-author with Hager of Stress and the Woman's Body, and, more saliently, his former wife of thirty-two years.
According to Davis, Hager's public moralizing on sexual matters clashed with his deplorable treatment of her during their marriage. Davis alleges that between 1995 and their divorce in 2002, Hager repeatedly sodomized her without her consent.
Several sources on and off the record confirmed that she had told them it was the sexual and emotional abuse within their marriage that eventually forced her out. "I probably wouldn't have objected so much, or felt it was so abusive if he had just wanted normal [vaginal] sex all the time," she explained to me. "But it was the painful, invasive, totally nonconsensual nature of the [anal] sex that was so horrible."
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[center]Read all about Hager in [url="http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050530&s=mcgarvey"][color=#0000ff]The Nation[/color][/url]. [/center]
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2005-05-16 05:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Knute][size=2]A don't-miss story following others revealing Christian Right sexual hypocrisy and abuse. Be safe - Lock up women, children and beasts of burden ...[/size][/QUOTE]Yup, all Jeebo's conservatives seem to have something in the closet...or the woodpile.
2005-05-16 10:54 | User Profile
Get serious, Knute, like any woman is going to let her husband sodomize her for years. You just want to believe that bullsh*t. LOL! :thumbd:
2005-05-16 14:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]Yup, all Jeebo's conservatives seem to have something in the closet...or the woodpile.[/QUOTE] [size=3][color=navy]Yup, and they all sing the same old song they have well learned from "God's Pets".[/color][/size] [size=3][color=navy][/color][/size]
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[color=navy][size=3]Back at Asbury, Hager cast himself as a victim of religious persecution in his sermon. "You see...there is a war going on in this country," he said gravely. "... It's a war being waged against Christians, particularly evangelical Christians."[/size][/color] [size=3][color=#000080][/color][/size] [size=3][color=#000080][/color][/size] [size=3][color=#000080]A Victim.... LOL>LOL![/color][/size]
2005-05-16 16:06 | User Profile
Her story may or may not be true. If she's lying, it wouldn't be the first time a woman did that to an ex-husband.
Furthermore, the story reports that she admitted to having an affiar. (Of coruse, it was caused by his anal rapings, of course....nothing she could do, huh?)
Always take these stories with a grain of salt. Esp. from an anti-GOP pulbication. It sounds plausible, but who knows...
2005-05-16 16:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jay]Her story may or may not be true. If she's lying, it wouldn't be the first time a woman did that to an ex-husband.
Furthermore, the story reports that she admitted to having an affiar. (Of coruse, it was caused by his anal rapings, of course....nothing she could do, huh?)
Always take these stories with a grain of salt. Esp. from an anti-GOP pulbication. It sounds plausible, but who knows...[/QUOTE]
I find it highly implausible that a woman would put up with that crap for so many years. She was an adulterous harlot!
2005-05-16 18:13 | User Profile
Baby Bush and his apologists are vermin.
In the past week, we've seen GOP "leaders" confess to bestiality; get nabbed in underaged homosexual scandals; exposed as group sex enthusiasts and covertly bringing the queer FReaker "Jeff Gannon" into the White House for poofter liasons.
Slick Willie's straight fellatio was choir boy stuff in comparison...
2005-05-16 19:52 | User Profile
Howard,
The story may not be true. We've seen claims like this before. However, if it is true I couldn't think of a more appropriate nomination for the Bush gang than this guy. He would fit in with all the other liars and hypocrites. He sounds like someone "Jeff Gannon" would like as long as they didn't have a knocked down dragged out argument on who will be on top.
2005-05-16 23:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]Baby Bush and his apologists are vermin.
In the past week, we've seen GOP "leaders" confess to bestiality; get nabbed in underaged homosexual scandals; exposed as group sex enthusiasts and covertly bringing the queer FReaker "Jeff Gannon" into the White House for poofter liasons.
Slick Willie's straight fellatio was choir boy stuff in comparison...[/QUOTE]
Wake up and smell the coffee! You are a very naive boy.
2005-05-17 00:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]Baby Bush and his apologists are vermin.
** In the past week, we've seen GOP "leaders"
confess to bestiality;
get nabbed in underaged homosexual scandals;
exposed as group sex enthusiasts
and covertly bringing the queer FReaker "Jeff Gannon" into the White House for poofter liasons.
Slick Willie's straight fellatio was choir boy stuff in comparison.** ..[/QUOTE]
:lol:.... YEP! He sure was.
2005-05-17 00:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Knute]:lol:.... YEP! He sure was.[/QUOTE]
Hey Knute, did you hear about your lying leftist buddies getting seventeen people murdered? You are all the same! :dry:
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=113574#post113574[/url]
2005-05-17 02:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.] [color=Blue] Slick Willie's straight fellatio was choir boy stuff in comparison...[/color][/QUOTE] Yep.. The Repubs are at least as bad as the Dems ... and maybe even worse...:shocking::shocking:
2005-05-17 02:48 | User Profile
Perhaps Mr. Hagar was taking a page out of the Morris "The Sleaze" Dees playbook.
[url]http://www.solargeneral.com/library/MorrisDeesDivorcePapers.pdf[/url]
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2005-05-17 04:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jay]Her story may or may not be true. If she's lying, it wouldn't be the first time a woman did that to an ex-husband.
Furthermore, the story reports that she admitted to having an affiar. (Of coruse, it was caused by his anal rapings, of course....nothing she could do, huh?)
Always take these stories with a grain of salt. Esp. from an anti-GOP pulbication. It sounds plausible, but who knows...[/QUOTE]I'll give you a translation "Whining ex-wife claims accuses ex-husband of being a poor lover".
Ho-hum. Is this [U]really[/U] all you guys can come up with.
2005-05-17 04:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Get serious, Knute, like any woman is going to let her husband sodomize her for years. You just want to believe that bullsh*t. LOL! :thumbd:[/QUOTE]But don't you know Gabby - she was just suffering in silence. She was a poor, innocent, abused victim. Plus she never had the courage to say "I have a headache" :lol:
Also of course she had no qualms about coauthoring a book with him on the woman's body, endorsing him personally at the time. She could have just said "sorry, I'd prefer that we write seperately".
But that was different (she got handsome royalties probably)
So many agnostic Vush-haters seem to be so just purely negative and devoid of common sense, they remind me of that old country song "you've got to stand for something, or you''ll fall for anything. You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string".
2005-05-17 06:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]So many agnostic Vush-haters seem to be so just purely negative and devoid of common sense, they remind me of that old country song "you've got to stand for something, or you''ll fall for anything. You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string".[/QUOTE]
According to his wife's descriptions of his sexual habits, it sounds like Hager is a bit of a "Bush-hater" himself :lol:
P.S. Neal Horsely admitting to sexual relations with a mule was caught on tape!
2005-05-17 07:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=GabbyRail]I find it highly implausible that a woman would put up with that crap for so many years. She was an adulterous harlot![/QUOTE]Hey, Gabby at least she found her G-Spot, and had a couple of orgasms in her lifetime. It seems to me that you baal-priestess/temple prostitutes should admire a fellow Jezebel.:bag:
2005-05-17 07:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]I find it highly implausible that a woman would put up with that crap for so many years. She was an adulterous harlot![/QUOTE]
Can we quote you on that, Gabby?
{(by the way --are you really a woman? -- I know, I know, but after the run-in I had with "Tamar" on the old LA Times discussion board -- "my gates are always open for good talk!" -- turned out to be ex-NYPD cross-dresser...))
Oh...and didn't you vote for Bush?
My impression is the Repube woods are full of 'em -- Dr. Hager push-overs, they are known as in Dogville. Sweetest ones for affairs. they know the score. Rave on, Herr Hager! Rave on! Rave on.
2005-05-17 08:18 | User Profile
This is a pretty minor issue, in the face of the other queer stuff going on in the Gay Old Pederast party.
(&, fwiw, several of my girlfriends have loved it up the rump. :oh: This lady's saying, today, that she didn't. So, file for divorce. Take an extended break from the house, to give him the message. Whatever. But neocon Gabrielle is right about this [B]one thing[/B]: she didn't have to take it up the backdoor repeatedly unless she wanted to.)
2005-05-17 14:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE=toddbrendanfahey]This is a pretty minor issue, in the face of the other queer stuff going on in the Gay Old Pederast party.
(&, fwiw, several of my girlfriends have loved it up the rump. :oh: This lady's saying, today, that she didn't. So, file for divorce. Take an extended break from the house, to give him the message. Whatever. But neocon Gabrielle is right about this [B]one thing[/B]: she didn't have to take it up the backdoor repeatedly unless she wanted to.)[/QUOTE]
"Several of my girlfriends"! You sound like a harlot too. Maybe you and Davis should get together.
I am not a neocon, Mr.SoManyGirlfriends.
2005-05-17 14:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper] P.S. Neal Horsely admitting to sexual relations with a mule was caught on tape![/QUOTE]
Is that what he really said?
2005-05-17 14:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]But don't you know Gabby - she was just suffering in silence. She was a poor, innocent, abused victim. Plus she never had the courage to say "I have a headache" :lol:
Also of course she had no qualms about coauthoring a book with him on the woman's body, endorsing him personally at the time. She could have just said "sorry, I'd prefer that we write seperately".
But that was different (she got handsome royalties probably)
So many agnostic Vush-haters seem to be so just purely negative and devoid of common sense, they remind me of that old country song "you've got to stand for something, or you''ll fall for anything. You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string".[/QUOTE]
How refreshing, a man who is not ruled by his feelings! A man of logic! :smile:
2005-05-17 15:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Is that what he really said?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Clear as day. He may have been joking, but it doesn't sound like it.
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18175[/url]
Audio link:
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/alancolmesradio/vidPlayer/player.html?colmes/050605/colmes_neal_horsley_050505&Alan_Colmes_Audio&Alan%20Colmes%20Radio&acc&Radio&-1&wvx-300[/url]
2005-05-17 15:17 | User Profile
Gabrielle,
A harlot? That's a term used for woman-folk. :boxing:
Ain't no crime to have sowed ones oats. At least I'm monogamous (it'd be too confusing to dangle several at once; I've known guys who are good at it, but, to me, keeping stories straight, and the potential of blurting out the wrong name in The Act, is not worth the risk).
(& condoms suck, if you're wondering, ho ho... If I don't know that I can "trust" the little woman, I'll take a blowjob.)
Oh, and thanks for asking.
2005-05-17 15:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.] Slick Willie's straight fellatio was choir boy stuff in comparison...[/QUOTE]I thought that was intern stuffing, and the choir boy stuffing was a few select Priests and Bishops. :jester:
[QUOTE]Davis alleges that between 1995 and their divorce in 2002, Hager repeatedly sodomized her without her consent. Several sources on and off the record confirmed that she had told them it was the sexual and emotional abuse within their marriage that eventually forced her out. "I probably wouldn't have objected so much, or felt it was so abusive if he had just wanted normal [vaginal] sex all the time," she explained to me. "But it was the painful[/QUOTE]Hmmmm, not to trivialize the TMI she laid on the public, but it took her seven years to discover it was painful? Or did it take her seven years to stop enjoying an initially consensual and "daring" experiment? Hard to say. (Horrid pun.) Per Gabrielle, she put up with that for SEVEN YEARS? Peel back another layer of the TMI Onion: trouble pleasing the little lady for a few years? Trying something new and sinful in privacy of own home, but reached a dead end? (Shoot me, guilty of felonious punnage.) Oh, an affair? That will solve a marriage in crisis. See what it did for Slick Willie?
Story smells of "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" (rectally pounded?). Divorce after 30+ years of marriage aint pretty. Stay married, love each other, get help if you need to, but work on it together.
He's a bright man, she's a bright lady (they wrote a book together) and neither found marriage counselling, or pastoral counselling, useful? A lose-lose for two people. Of course, the press makes money off of their misery. (And cynical internet posters make sport of it. Shame on me! :disgust: )
2005-05-17 16:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper] P.S. Neal Horsely admitting to sexual relations with a mule was caught on tape![/QUOTE]
Bizarre Sex Habits of The Extreme Right-Wing
Last night, anti-abortion extremist Neal Horsley was a guest on The Alan Colmes Show, a FOX News radio program. The topic was an interesting one - whether or not an internet service provider should allow Horsley to post the names of abortion doctors on his website. Horsley does that as a way of targeting them and one doctor has been killed. In the course of the interview, however, Colmes asked Horsley about his background, including a statement that he had admitted to engaging in homosexual and bestiality sex.
At first, Horsley laughed and said, "Just because it's printed in the media, people jump to believe it."
"Is it true?" Colmes asked.
"Hey, Alan, if you want to accuse me of having sex when I was a fool, I did everything that crossed my mind that looked like I..."
AC: "You had sex with animals?"
NH: "Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule."
AC: "I'm not so sure that that is so."
NH: "You didn't grow up on a farm in Georgia, did you?"
AC: "Are you suggesting that everybody who grows up on a farm in Georgia has a mule as a girlfriend?"
NH: It has historically been the case. You people are so far removed from the reality... Welcome to domestic life on the farm..."
Colmes said he thought there were a lot of people in the audience who grew up on farms, are living on farms now, raising kids on farms and "and I don't think they are dating Elsie right now. You know what I'm saying?"
Horsley said, "You experiment with anything that moves when you are growing up sexually. You're naive. You know better than that... If it's warm and it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it."
In addition to Horsley, Colmes has recently interviewed Randall Terry another radical anti-abortionist and anti-gay activist. In the middle of an otherwise serious [url="http://www.newshounds.us/2005/03/25/radical_christian_antigay_activist_and_schiavo_spokesperson_randall_terryjokes_about_being_homosexual.php"][color=#0000ff]interview[/color][/url], Terry began joking - apropos of nothing - that he and Colmes were ex-lovers.
Another extremist interviewed by Colmes not too long ago was Rev. Fred Phelps who stated on the show that he thought the death penalty should be given for those who engage in "sodomy." When Colmes [url="http://www.newshounds.us/2005/04/14/hellfire_and_brimstone_visit_the_alan_colmes_show.php"][color=#0000ff]asked[/color][/url] Phelps if he had ever engaged in gay sex, Phelps blustered but never said no.
Hmm, I'm beginning to sense a pattern here. Come to think of it, Ann Coulter is reputed to have an unusually, er, wide-ranging sex life, too, though as far as I know it's just confined to men. Still, it doesn't exactly match the profile of an ultra-conservative.
Reported by ellen at May 6, 2005
2005-05-17 17:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]Yes. Clear as day. He may have been joking, but it doesn't sound like it.
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18175[/url]
Audio link:
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/alancolmesradio/vidPlayer/player.html?colmes/050605/colmes_neal_horsley_050505&Alan_Colmes_Audio&Alan%20Colmes%20Radio&acc&Radio&-1&wvx-300[/url][/QUOTE]
Thank you! I think he was serious! Bush should get rid of him. :frown:
2005-05-17 17:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=toddbrendanfahey]Gabrielle,
A harlot? That's a term used for woman-folk. :boxing:
Ain't no crime to have sowed ones oats. At least I'm monogamous (it'd be too confusing to dangle several at once; I've known guys who are good at it, but, to me, keeping stories straight, and the potential of blurting out the wrong name in The Act, is not worth the risk).
(& condoms suck, if you're wondering, ho ho... If I don't know that I can "trust" the little woman, I'll take a blowjob.)
Oh, and thanks for asking.[/QUOTE]
Male harlots are just as destructive to society as female harlotsââ¬Â¦donââ¬â¢t kid yourself.
2005-05-17 19:30 | User Profile
Knute,
Interesting post. I note that some of the neocon talk radio hosts are fascinated with homosexuality. Michael Medved and Sean Hannity in particular. Medved seems to have at least four hours a week about this. Whether they are doing this to play up to the Dispensationalist nutballs or have secret desires I do not know.
2005-05-19 06:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Knute,
Interesting post. I note that some of the neocon talk radio hosts are fascinated with homosexuality. Michael Medved and Sean Hannity in particular. Medved seems to have at least four hours a week about this. Whether they are doing this to play up to the Dispensationalist nutballs or have secret desires I do not know.[/QUOTE] Please pardon my ignorance. Is this roughly what you mean by dispensationalism?
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2005-05-19 06:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]Please pardon my ignorance. Is this roughly what you mean by dispensationalism?
[size=3] I want to make sure I understand the terms of reference, not as up on isms as I probably oughta be.[/size][/QUOTE]We have a whole subforum on dispensationalism under Christianity.
It is a very complex doctrine theologically, however threads like [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13423]this[/URL] make it clear what exactly the agenda is, which is to instill among Christians a theological reverence of exceptionalism for the state of Israel which is entirely undeserved and basically heretical.
2005-05-19 12:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]We have a whole subforum on dispensationalism under Christianity.
It is a very complex doctrine theologically, however threads like [url="http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13423"]this[/url] make it clear what exactly the agenda is, which is to instill among Christians a theological reverence of exceptionalism for the state of Israel which is entirely undeserved and basically heretical.[/QUOTE] Many thanks. Stumbled across it a little while after I asked the question. Yes indeed, a very complex topic.
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