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2005-05-12 11:01 | User Profile
[url]http://www.ksntv.com/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=3269[/url]
Lindstedt Facing Sex Charges Tuesday, May 10, 2005
A former controversial Gubernatorial candidate is now facing first
degree sex charges. 48-year-old Martin Lindstedt of Granby was
arrested this afternoon after authorities say he had a sex act with a
child under the age of 12. Investigators add the alleged victim is a
relative. The Newton County Sheriffs Department first received the
tip from a child abuse hotline in March of 2003. But say its been a
lengthy investigation.Lindstedt has been charged with one count of
first degree statutory sodomy. If convicted he could face life in
prison.
Written By: Brad Douglas
2005-05-12 11:20 | User Profile
The charges, IMO, don't pass the smell test.
But of course, the implications of this - so soon after the Hale verdict and arrest of Morris Gulett - ought to send shivers down everyone's spine here, regardless of whether you think Lucky's short an oar in the water.
Somebody dig up that Martin Niemoller quote because this is the exact sort of scenario it was written to describe. I could be wrong, but I think the authorities counting on Lindstedt's persnality and quoted statements to get them their conviction [I]regardless [/I] of the charge.
The net tightens. Michael Chertoff's America is rolling off the assembly line just like Richard Perle's international model did not long before.
2005-05-12 16:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]The charges, IMO, don't pass the smell test.[/QUOTE]
Why do you say they don't pass the smell test?
2005-05-12 17:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Why do you say they don't pass the smell test?[/QUOTE]Personally, these days, hardly anything does. Beyond that I obviously don't know. Martin has had run-ins with the county authorities before obviously and stoutly denies wrongdoing of course.
2005-05-12 18:30 | User Profile
Has Matt Hale been sentenced yet?
....and only God knows the truth about Martin Lindstedt's alleged crimes.....outside of Lindstedt himself....
Have to wait to see if any substantial evidence emerges.....though once those types of charges are brought up against you, you're name is pretty much MUD anyway....."you'll neva' woyk in dis town again!"
2005-05-12 19:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead].....though once those types of charges are brought up against you, you're name is pretty much MUD anyway....."you'll neva' woyk in dis town again!"[/QUOTE]
Could he hold down a job to begin with?
2005-05-12 20:41 | User Profile
Bloody hell... sodomy! :disgust:
2005-05-12 20:51 | User Profile
Posted on Wed, May. 11, 2005
Statutory sodomy charge against frequent candidate for offices
Associated Press
NEOSHO, Mo. - An unsuccessful candidate for various political offices including governor and the U.S. Senate has been charged with statutory sodomy.
Martin Lindstedt, 48, of Granby, was arrested Tuesday and he was being held in the Newton County Jail on $100,000 bond. Lindstedt, who uses the nickname "Mad Dog," is accused of deviant sexual intercourse with a child in March 2003.
He was charged with one count of first-degree statutory sodomy, which means the victim was under the age of 12, said Bill Dobbs, assistant prosecutor for Newton County.
Dobbs said the victim was male and that the charge stemmed from an investigation by the Children's Division of the 40th Judicial Circuit and the Newton County Sheriff's Department.
"Initially, the investigation was in response to a child abuse and neglect hotline call," Dobbs said.
Dobbs said Lindstedt was arraigned Wednesday and did not respond when the judge asked him what plea he planned to make and whether he will retain a lawyer. He said a pre-trial hearing was set for next Wednesday.
Lindstedt, who describes himself as a white nationalist, has run for local and state office on the Libertarian, Reform and Republican party tickets. His most recent bid for state office was in 2004 when he ran for governor as a Republican. He had also been a candidate for that office in 1996 and ran for the Senate in 1998 as a Libertarian, in 2000 as a Reform Party candidate and in 2002 as a Republican.
Lindstedt ran for presiding commissioner of Newton County in 2002, for sheriff two years later and more recently for the East Newton School Board and a municipal judgeship in Granby.
Last summer, Lindstedt filed suit against Matt Blunt, then the secretary of state, for refusing to include his "Mad Dog" nickname on the statewide ballot in 2002 and 2004. The nickname was included when he ran for county and municipal office in 2002, 2003 and 2004. In November, the Missouri attorney general's office asked that the suit be dismissed.
Lindstedt has filed a number of other unsuccessful lawsuits, including one in 1996 against Joplin and Missouri Southern State College. He contended his civil rights were violated after he was involved in a verbal altercation with a former FBI agent who spoke on the Missouri Southern campus in 1993.
2005-05-12 20:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]The charges, IMO, don't pass the smell test.
But of course, the implications of this - so soon after the Hale verdict and arrest of Morris Gulett - ought to send shivers down everyone's spine here, regardless of whether you think Lucky's short an oar in the water.
Somebody dig up that Martin Niemoller quote because this is the exact sort of scenario it was written to describe. I could be wrong, but I think the authorities counting on Lindstedt's persnality and quoted statements to get them their conviction [I]regardless [/I] of the charge.
The net tightens. Michael Chertoff's America is rolling off the assembly line just like Richard Perle's international model did not long before.[/QUOTE]
First They Came for the Jews
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller
2005-05-12 20:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]Could he hold down a job to begin with?[/QUOTE]
I don't know, but these allegations could harm his political aspirations!
Maybe "Martin Lindstedt for Governor" scared the hell out of some powerful folks?
2005-05-12 20:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Has Matt Hale been sentenced yet? I think it was 40 years.
....and only God knows the truth about Martin Lindstedt's alleged crimes.....outside of Lindstedt himself....
Have to wait to see if any substantial evidence emerges.....though once those types of charges are brought up against you, you're name is pretty much MUD anyway....."you'll neva' woyk in dis town again!"[/QUOTE]I must sympathize with Martin, cause personally, whether the charges are true or not, I doubt he's got a snowball's chance in hell of beating them, or getting out of the pokey before he's 90 years old. (or for that matter staying alive in the pokey for than 9 days).
RIP Martin
2005-05-12 21:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]I don't know, but these allegations could harm his political aspirations!
Maybe "Martin Lindstedt for Governor" scared the hell out of some powerful folks?[/QUOTE]You must have Martin's gift for comedy.
2005-05-12 21:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I think it was 40 years.
I must sympathize with Martin, cause personally, whether the charges are true or not, I doubt he's got a snowball's chance in hell of beating them, or getting out of the pokey before he's 90 years old. (or for that matter staying alive in the pokey for than 9 days).
RIP Martin[/QUOTE]
The odd thing in this case is the alledged victim is one of Martin's relatives. This evidently means the relative has filed a complaint and is willing to testify. That's a little different from the usual government set-up.
2005-05-12 22:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I think it was 40 years.[/QUOTE]
Man, that's harsh. I feel bad, although I was definitely in disagreement with most of Hale's beliefs. It seems he was railroaded for political beliefs. In the "land of the free" it's astonishing to see Third World style vendettas take place against opposition parties/personalities.
[QUOTE] I must sympathize with Martin, cause personally, whether the charges are true or not, I doubt he's got a snowball's chance in hell of beating them, or getting out of the pokey before he's 90 years old. (or for that matter staying alive in the pokey for than 9 days).
RIP Martin[/QUOTE]
I agree. I definitely sympathize with him and I find the charges against him hard to believe. Who knows if the kid was coerced into making allegations against Martin? Even the allegation of this kind, though, would be enough to take a guy like Lindstedt right out given his prior run-ins.
Like I said, we'll hopefully get to know some facts about what happened before coming to any conclusions.
2005-05-12 22:46 | User Profile
There are a lot of things that raise my antennae here.
Why would a sex-abuse allegation in a tiny Missouri backwater take two years to 'investigate'? Lucky has gone on (and on!) at length about their removal from his care. Could this 'investigation' have been comprised of conditioning this child to 'remember' things more to the prosecutor's liking?
Insofar as the Newton County political machine is concerned, Lindstedt is a nuisance and an embarassment - and worse, a doggedly tenacious nuisance and embarassment. He has not only made enemies of every political stripe, he's gone [I]out of his way [/I] to cultivate them through a campaign of relentless public baiting.
For something as sensitive (and potentially-radioactive) as child sex abuse, the authorities are releasing an awful lot of info in this case they ordinarily would soft-pedal, at least until the actual trial. For instance, we are told that the victim is under 12, male, a relative of Lindstedt's, and that he had actual 'intercourse' with him. Also we are told that the first-offense penalty for this offense is 'life'. Look around at your typical 'arrest' story in your own Daily Democrat-Republican, and you tell me if this much priapic detail (much of it at the expense of the kid!) is freely reported in the typical 'pedophile arrested' story when you can't find out the race of violent at-large criminals. This press release...which is what it is....is worded like a roundhouse punch to the temple, with a set of brass knucks on yet. And I can't think of child-sex-abuse trials without flashing back to the mob-justice debacles of the 80s...people hit wth 99-year sentences like they were traffic tickets, all perpetrated under the aegis of DA-coached lies drawn from children.
Maybe most troubling is this particular arrest - a case developed over a two-year period in a tiny hamlet ill-equipped to devote that kind of time, money and manpower to it - comes hard on the heels of the arrest of CI high muckety-muck Morris Gullett on similarly-questionable charges (intent to commit bank robbery). Inside ten days, the dual-seedline CI church/movement/clubhouse has been laid utter waste. Some 'movement'.
No doubt Lucky's nudge-em-with-an-icepick style greatly contributed to his current position behind the 8-ball. But Okie's right, he won't last long inside - one 'clerical error' can house him with enough dusky predators to make his [I]defense strategy [/I] a grimly moot point. Keep a good thought for him and let's hope he's assigned a competent lawyer.
2005-05-12 23:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=wild_bill]The odd thing in this case is the alledged victim is one of Martin's relatives. This evidently means the relative has filed a complaint and is willing to testify. That's a little different from the usual government set-up.[/QUOTE]Under 12 years old? I doubt he pressed a complaint on his own voalition.
In fact, sexual abuse of children by family members, if we're to believe psychologists, is so pervasive, it makes the few prosecutions seem oddly rare. By nature they're difficult to prove. Usually they're just used as a legal club against out-of-favor people of your particular stripe (such as ex-spouses). In divorce custody battles they're practically routine I've heard. But by comparison people are seldom hauled into criminal court on their account, unless its particular severe, (or the person is particularly odious).
The case doesn't seem severe - [B]1[/B] occurrence. However when someone is as odious with a capital O as Martin, he could easily be locked away for parking under a water tower. Considering the bitterness of the battle he's waged with the state over custody of his grandkids, I wouldn't be surprised at anything the childcare authorities are able to come up with.
2005-05-13 00:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Bloody hell... sodomy! :disgust:[/QUOTE] The alleged crime is "statutory sodomy", a fully consensual act. What is so bad about sodomy in the first place? You should be standing by your brother-in-CI.
2005-05-13 05:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]There are a lot of things that raise my antennae here.
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You make some good points, clearly Lindstedt succeeded in pissing off the Regime and that's all playing a role in how the investigation was managed and the press reports are spun.
But what if he actually DID IT?
If that's the case - if he really did bugger a young boy - then any sympathy for him is certainly misplaced and can only hurt the person expressing such sympathy in the future.
I'm just suggesting that it's prudent at this point not to shed too many public tears for the man until the facts are a bit clearer.
2005-05-13 05:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Aznuife-ke]What is so bad about sodomy in the first place? [/QUOTE] WTF? :clown:
2005-05-13 05:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]In fact, sexual abuse of children by family members, if we're to believe psychologists, is so pervasive, it makes the few prosecutions seem oddly rare.[/QUOTE]
Child sexual abuse happens, God help us, but I don't think it's nearly as pervasive as the "helping professions" (may God save us from the scourge of their assistance) would have us believe.
I remember back in the 1980s the slogan was "families can be a dangerous place for children" or something like that. It was part of the massive marketing campaign launched against the institution of the family by the Culture of Critique.
Remember the big satanic childcare scare back in the 1980s. There was a case in CA that involved a family daycare center with wild allegations of ritual abuse. I remember the name of the family that owned the center was Bucky. They seemed like nice people, and everybody was shocked that a nice family like the Buckys could be a bunch of perverts (the granny in the wheelchair wasn't the nice lady she seemed but actually a high priestess of the church of satan or some nonsense). But there wasn't even a shred of hard evidence, perhaps it goes without saying. The psychologists browbeat the kids into repeating stories of ritually sacrificed animals buried under the school basement, for example. I remember that the judge - probably realizing after months in trial how ridiculous the charges were - allowed the parents to excavate the basement. They found NADA. Again, it probably goes without saying. The only evidence presented were the notes of "therapists" with BA degrees in "transpersonal therapy" or some underwater basketweaving nonsense like that. The Buckys were ultimately vindicated, after their lives were destroyed, their good name trashed.
I was at a dinner back then listening to a very Jewish therapist woman (who wrote an instant sensation book on her bout with breast cancer) and a Greek American doctor talk about this case. The Jewess went on and on about how "kids don't lie" and how "this happens all the time" but the good doctor said "I need to see hard evidence." But the world little notes nor long remembers.
There was another case that was widely reported in Minnesota back then. There was a apparently a huge ring of parents abusing their children sexually - just the most lurid shit imaginable. It made the national news. I remember in Wisconsin it was the talk of the town. The talk show Therapy Yids told us how dangerous our families were. But then it turned out it was all crap. Of course. Some overzealous country moron with a degree in Social Work or some crap like that.
Anyway, it's entirely possible that this is all shite. But then again it might not be.
I say with the good doctor that we should suspend judgement until al the facts are in.
2005-05-13 06:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Child sexual abuse happens, God help us, but I don't think it's nearly as pervasive as the "helping professions" (may God save us from the scourge of their assistance) would have us believe.....
Anyway, it's entirely possible that this is all shite. But then again it might not be.
I say with the good doctor that we should suspend judgement until al the facts are in.[/QUOTE]Well how on earth are we ever going to get the facts in? Evidence can be so subjective.
Martin is sort of an enigma to me from the standpoint of his propensity for this. As if I could really understand anyone overthe internet to this degree, even as garollous a one as Martin. But as with Il Ragno, I see a number of red flags in this case, and this is another one. As you refer to, child abuse cases are highly politicizable, in fact they stood out for that reason, as well as being very subjective and very malleable to prosecutorial manipulation.
It also, is incidentally, of course, the worst crime to imagine being stuck in the pokey with. I don't know if you can get much worse than being a "white supremacist child molester" in prison. I think I'd rather be a convicted cop.
2005-05-13 12:32 | User Profile
And I thought CI were the good Christians!
Guess the "piglice" finally got tired of the Mad Dog. The good new is that his prison cell may well be larger than his current home (a trailer).
2005-05-13 12:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Aznuife-ke]The alleged crime is "statutory sodomy", a fully consensual act. What is so bad about sodomy in the first place? You should be standing by your brother-in-CI.[/QUOTE]
First of all, he is not my brother in anything. He is a wacked- out seedliner freak. The guy has a mouth and a mind like a gutter.
Secondly, I didn't know we had a practicing sodomite here. Donââ¬â¢t address me again, you pervert. :angry:
2005-05-13 12:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]And I thought CI were the good Christians!
Guess the "piglice" finally got tired of the Mad Dog. The good new is that his prison cell may well be larger than his current home (a trailer).[/QUOTE]
He is a seed liner!!!! They just walked into CI and made up this wacky religion. They could the same with the Protestant Church and the Catholic Church.
2005-05-13 15:00 | User Profile
This may seem rude coming from an outsider, but I've always been disturbed by the open seeming acceptance in American society of male-on-male rape in the prison system (often with implied racial overtones) .
Every time some guy commits a heinous crime someone will say "hope he gets raped by Bubba inside" or some such comment. Is this all just jokes, or does this stuff really happen? If it does, wouldn't that make it one of the most pressing "human rights" issues in the country? Surely no-one thinks it's OK for a 17 y/o kid to go into prison for 6 months for a drugs charge and become some guy's forced sexual slave. But the way people joke about it sometimes it's almost like they approve of it. How come it's not such a big deal?
I could be wrong, but I've never heard of this happening in Aussie or NZ prisons. I've heard some pretty full-on stories about prison life here, but they all centre around extreme violence conducted with the approval of on-looking guards, and nothing of a homosexual nature.
2005-05-13 17:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]This may seem rude coming from an outsider, but I've always been disturbed by the open seeming acceptance in American society of male-on-male rape in the prison system (often with implied racial overtones). People have tried to bring it up. But understand, its generally a black issue (most prisoners in jails are black.) Not a really hot PC issue.
Every time some guy commits a heinous crime someone will say "hope he gets raped by Bubba inside" or some such comment. Is this all just jokes, or does this stuff really happen? Sho enuff it really does.> If it does, wouldn't that make it one of the most pressing "human rights" issues in the country? Surely no-one thinks it's OK for a 17 y/o kid to go into prison for 6 months for a drugs charge and become some guy's forced sexual slave. The youth issue does enter in. That's why in our system there is such a big issue, with late juvenile offenders (say 14-18 but depending also on the severity), over whether he will be charged as an adult, meaning of course he will be placed in the adult "correctional" system, with hardened cons, rather than with juveniles. Its generally understood the severity of the former decision, which is why sometimes juveniles seem to get off. There's an implied threat here - "hey you got off once. Next time you're going in with bubba. If you're too stupid to figure that one out before you mess up again, tough."
But the way people joke about it sometimes it's almost like they approve of it. How come it's not such a big deal? Hey, inevitability and necessity can easily make people callous. Plus politics enter in. Liberals don't like the racial angle, while conservatives think too much discussion would just be used to argue for laxer prison sentences. So the status quo goes unchecked. Abuse is just part of the sentence.
I could be wrong, but I've never heard of this happening in Aussie or NZ prisons. I've heard some pretty full-on stories about prison life here, but they all centre around extreme violence conducted with the approval of on-looking guards, and nothing of a homosexual nature.[/QUOTE]Prisons everywhere have their own unique flavor, all different, but none of them especially nice. Hey, at least our prison guards don't torture people like they do in Mexico.
2005-05-13 17:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Hey, at least our prison guards don't torture people like they do in Mexico.[/QUOTE]
Many of the guards involved in the Abu Gharaib prison torture were or will be prison guards in civilian life. Seems like they got into the swing of things fairly easily, whether or not the orders were coming from higher ups or from swarthy civilian contractors.
And if Lindstedt is guilty of this, he deserves nothing short of public hanging. Freak though the guy seemed to be, no one deserves prison rape; if he is found guilty and is innocent (or is guilty and in the general population sans hanging or other deserved punishment) then here's hoping he takes whatever steps he has the stomach for to prevent it.
2005-05-13 18:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]This may seem rude coming from an outsider, but I've always been disturbed by the open seeming acceptance in American society of male-on-male rape in the prison system (often with implied racial overtones) . RRP-- Homosexual prison rape is a huge problem in America, but it is ignored because it is (mostly) Negroes and Hispanics raping Whites. The former groups form ethnic gangs in the prisons to protect their members from rape, but the deracination of white Americans has come so far, that the white prisoners do not effectively band together in this way.
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]If it does, wouldn't that make it one of the most pressing "human rights" issues in the country?...How come it's not such a big deal? It's all about whose ox is being gored. Since the victims are white men, no one cares. Taking prison rape into account, it is estimated that there are more rapes of men annually in the United States then there are rapes of women. Jared Taylor at American Renaissance wrote an excellent piece on male rape in American prisons and the enormous racial aspect of it (which you can find here [url="http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2004/11/hard_time.php"]http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2004/11/hard_time.php[/url]). It will definitely open your eyes. A word of warning, however, it is extremely disturbing, and reading it actually caused me to feel physically ill.
2005-05-13 18:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=weisbrot]Many of the guards involved in the Abu Gharaib prison torture were or will be prison guards in civilian life. Seems like they got into the swing of things fairly easily, whether or not the orders were coming from higher ups or from swarthy civilian contractors.
I don't know. What I heard so far doesn't exactly make me quake with fear, compared with what goes in in Mexican or Iraq (Saddam era) prisons. I can just hear prisoners compare tortures
Mexican - "I was electrocuted on my testicals" Iraq - "I was hung by my testicles" Abu Gharaib - "women prison guards made fun of the size of my testicles"
I think Stalin, Himmler, and Saddam would find today's Iraq's compaints of "abuse" hilarious.
2005-05-13 18:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]RRP-- Homosexual prison rape is a huge problem in America, but it is ignored because it is (mostly) Negroes and Hispanics raping Whites. The former groups form ethnic gangs in the prisons to protect their members from rape, but the deracination of white Americans has come so far, that the white prisoners do not effectively band together in this way.[/QUOTE] That's not true. Haven't you ever heard of the Aryan Brotherhood?
I get the impression that it is more defensive in nature though. Also I suspect this group is tolerated less than the minority gangs, and is more damaging to one's parole chances, etc.
2005-05-13 19:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I don't know. What I heard so far doesn't exactly make me quake with fear, compared with what goes in in Mexican or Iraq (Saddam era) prisons. I can just hear prisoners compare tortures
Mexican - "I was electrocuted on my testicals" Iraq - "I was hung by my testicles" Abu Gharaib - "women prison guards made fun of the size of my testicles"
I think Stalin, Himmler, and Saddam would find today's Iraq's compaints of "abuse" hilarious.[/QUOTE]
Yup, what (most) of the media reported was just simple funnin' of them Muslim boys. Since it was printed up in them there newspapers then it has to be true.
The abuse that has been reported by some human rights groups goes far beyond humiliation and psychological technique. Rapes and deaths are apparently numerous- if these groups are to be believed. Given the recent track record of our lying media I'll go with the other side for now...
2005-05-13 23:49 | User Profile
Mr. Lindstedt is an extremely eccentric man. In many ways he is a kind of bad parody of all the things wrong with American white racial nationalism, its strange religions, petty infighting and lack of intellectual polish. On the other hand, I find it very odd that a man would be arrested for statutory rape over two years after its occurance. It might be a lot of "recovered memories" nonsense.
I don't see how Lindstedt can be considered much of a threat to the regime, but its a funny old world. If he is innocent, I certainly hope he walks.
2005-05-14 00:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE]... Martin Lindstedt, 48, of Granby, was arrested Tuesday and he was being held in the Newton County Jail on $100,000 bond. Lindstedt, who uses the nickname "Mad Dog," is accused of deviant sexual intercourse with a child in March 2003.
He was charged with one count of first-degree statutory sodomy, which means the victim was under the age of 12, said Bill Dobbs, assistant prosecutor for Newton County.
Dobbs said the victim was male and that the charge stemmed from an investigation by the Children's Division of the 40th Judicial Circuit and the Newton County Sheriff's Department. ...[/QUOTE] I agree with il ragno. This episode smells pretty bad. Martin and I have had our run-ins... but I just don't believe this crap.
The nature of Martin's inter-family squabbles has stirred-up a hornets nest of vendetta within his rather large family. This is in addition to the animosity that his bureaucratic foes and antagonists in Newton County feel toward Martin because he has usually prevailed against them. They've wanted ââ¬Åto get Martin Lindstedtââ¬Â for a long long time.
Because of this... I dare say that the authorities aren't really interested in the truth.
:cool:
2005-05-14 00:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]And I thought CI were the good Christians!
Guess the "piglice" finally got tired of the Mad Dog. The good new is that his prison cell may well be larger than his current home (a trailer).[/QUOTE] You really are sub-human Stigmata... not to mention the epitome of a troll.
Why don't you crawl back under your rock with the rest of the maggots?
:smoke:
2005-05-14 05:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I don't know. What I heard so far doesn't exactly make me quake with fear, compared with what goes in in Mexican or Iraq (Saddam era) prisons. I can just hear prisoners compare tortures
Mexican - "I was electrocuted on my testicals" Iraq - "I was hung by my testicles" Abu Gharaib - "women prison guards made fun of the size of my testicles"
I think Stalin, Himmler, and Saddam would find today's Iraq's compaints of "abuse" hilarious.[/QUOTE]Okie, I hope you aren't falling for the American media spin about Abu Gharaib.
The media played up those photos of naked men on leashes and piled up in heaps - what you didn't see unless you searched the Internet were pictures of dead Iraqi men, their faces black and bloated and swollen from severe beatings. You didn't hear any mention of the women and boys who were raped either - even though many news stories in fact mentioned that one incident where a boy was raped by a "contractor" was videotaped. Obviously they have the videotape, but they aren't going to let us see it.
Most of the "sexual humiliation" was done to get photos so as to shame and blackmail the victim into turning into a spy for the Americans - ie, "infiltrate the resistance and inform on them for us, or we give these photos to all your family, friends, neighbors, etc.".
But real, honest-to-goodness torture did and does go on there and at Gitmo and other places - beatings, near drownings, electric shocks, dogs, etc. And that's not counting the torture "outsourced" to other countries. Don't fall for the Rush-Limbo spin about "fraternity hazing" and "spring break" type lewd behavior.
2005-05-14 05:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w]The media played up those photos of naked men on leashes and piled up in heaps - what you didn't see unless you searched the Internet were pictures of dead Iraqi men, their faces black and bloated and swollen from severe beatings. You didn't hear any mention of the women and boys who were raped either - even though many news stories in fact mentioned that one incident where a boy was raped by a "contractor" was videotaped. Obviously they have the videotape, but they aren't going to let us see it.[/QUOTE]
The irony is that many Freeper types seem to think that the "liberal media" actually played up the Abu Ghraib scandal in order to damage America's public image in support of some nefarious commie agenda, when in fact (as you say) if any thing they downplayed it.
2005-05-14 05:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]First They Came for the Jews [/QUOTE]First they came for the Jews....and we never thanked them.
Seriously, though, wasn't Lindstedt involved in some kind of divorce proceedings or something with his wife, or am I misremembering something not related to him? Accusations of sexual abuse against children are often used as a weapon in child custody and divorce proceedings, often without merit, but in this case someone seems to think there is solid evidence.
Is my memory faulty here or can sommeone back me up on this?
As to Martin Lindstedt himself, he's such a loon (at least, his online persona is) that he's probably a much more of a burden than an asset to his cause, and thus if I were "THEM" I would leave him be and let him do as much damage to his cause as possible. On the other hand, he might have annoyed the wrong people such that they are engaged in personal politics rather engaging in impersonal, long term thinking.
So I don't know what to believe. Even if the charges are bogus, though, he's screwed. This will tie him up for years, potentially, in legal proceedings, even if the charges are baseless. We've already seen in the Matt Hale case that actual evidence doesn't have to be very good at all provided those who control the legal system are determined to get you.
2005-05-14 06:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w]Is my memory faulty here or can sommeone back me up on this? Yes, in fact I think its right on his web page, a account of his lengthy custody battle.
[QUOTE]On the other hand, he might have annoyed the wrong people such that they are engaged in personal politics rather engaging in impersonal, long term thinking.[/QUOTE]Are you kidding? Our Martin? [B]"Might Have"[/B] :lol: Martin annoys everyone in the world.
[QUOTE]So I don't know what to believe. Even if the charges are bogus, though, he's screwed. This will tie him up for years, potentially, in legal proceedings, even if the charges are baseless. We've already seen in the Matt Hale case that actual evidence doesn't have to be very good at all provided those who control the legal system are determined to get you.[/QUOTE]True enough. And somewhere there's another Bob Matthews around, who says its better just to go down with a gun in his hand.
That clearly is the strategy now. When the gov't higherups go after someone, they want to discredit them also. Re, the phony gambling allregations on Duke's, Lindstedt's child molestation charges (rather than I suspect a few other things they could have got him on, just from reading this board) etc. Now it might be just speculation that the gov't higher ups are in this all at course. With Martin, it like that old line in the movie, its difficult to imagine someone who [B]doesn't[/B] have something against him.
2005-05-14 06:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]The irony is that many Freeper types seem to think that the "liberal media" actually played up the Abu Ghraib scandal in order to damage America's public image in support of some nefarious commie agenda, when in fact (as you say) if any thing they downplayed it.[/QUOTE]Well they sure talked about Abu Ghraib a lot. Are you suggesting they did it in a way that was designed to be very subtly ironical - reporting on the abuses - realizing smart people will actually take as evidence nothing serious took place?
That seems beyond the capabilities of the press, but I could be mistaken.
What could happen is just the press was lazy. Maybe the guards figured the pictures were just a joke, and didn't guard them seriously. Obviously obtaining pictures of more serious offenses by nature is going to be an awful lot harder. Plus, the pictures just made great press.
Occasionally I see the same thing happening with police. Some poor jerk police officer will be fired for not turning in a $5 bill from a thiefs pocket cause hre doesn't want to do the paperwork, when you know there are a lot more serious things that go on.
2005-05-14 06:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Well they sure talked about Abu Ghraib a lot. Are you suggesting they did it in a way that was designed to be very subtly ironical - reporting on the abuses - realizing smart people will actually take as evidence nothing serious took place?[/QUOTE]No, I think you are missing his point here. The media didn't have a conscious plan, but they are easy to manipulate, they are lazy and worship authority (especially the authority that signs their paychecks) and the actually independent elements within the media are too few to matter.
All you have to do is ensure that the really incriminating photos are never shown, or that those that do get leaked are not published by "mainstream" sources, and then allow the blogosphere, Cable TV, and talk radio to "spin" the story into nothing more than light-hearted sexual pranks, and hey presto, the story about the actual torture, rapes, and killings, never even enters the public consiousness.
The vast majority do not search out obscure internet discussion forums populated by dissident types. Hell, the vast majority don't even read people like Seymour Hirsch, who is a semi-semi-dissident type within the mainstream media.
It's very easy to get the mainstream media to cover things like the Abu Ghraib story in such a way that it can easily be spun to exonerate everyone except for a few scapegoats. In fact, that is precisely what happened. The media, far from being a left-wing conspiracy, acted as Establishment controlled damage control, and minimized the story nicely. The precise mechanics of how they did it are less important than recognizing the fact that they did it.
In other words, the "liberal media conspiracy theory" is highly incomplete, to say the least. Sure, the elite media is overwhelmingly "liberal" but they are not liberal in the sense that most Freepers assume.
2005-05-14 07:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Are you kidding? Our Martin? [B]"Might Have"[/B] :lol: Martin annoys everyone in the world. [/QUOTE]Yes, yes. I know.
I meant annoyed someone in the real world, or rather really upset someone (and not merely annoyed them) about something of real consequence, not merely annoyed them over meaningless internet forum pissing-contests.
In other words, maybe he really ticked off someone in the real world over a matter that was really important, and maybe that someone had access to real power, rather than fake internet power over a harmless internet discussion forum.
All pure speculation, of course.
My point is, just because someone is an @sshole on the Internet, I don't automatically assume that they are an @sshole in real life. The two are often very different things - possibly not for people like Martin Lindstedt, though! :smartass:
2005-05-14 07:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w]No, I think you are missing his point here. The media didn't have a conscious plan, but they are easy to manipulate, they are lazy and worship authority (especially the authority that signs their paychecks) and the actually independent elements within the media are too few to matter.
All you have to do is ensure that the really incriminating photos are never shown, or that those that do get leaked are not published by "mainstream" sources, and then allow the blogosphere, Cable TV, and talk radio to "spin" the story into nothing more than light-hearted sexual pranks, and hey presto, the story about the actual torture, rapes, and killings, never even enters the public consiousness.[/QUOTE]Actually that's pretty much the exact point I just made.
To think out of all the stuff at Abu Ghraib Private England/English however was the only one prosecuted.
Of course that's the way a lot of "reporting is". The press is scared to death of liability laws, so they just repeat tripe or stuff that's already well-known anyway.
I was hearing the same thing on that "award winning investigative show" 60 minutes, at Guantamano Bay. Some guy is accusing a guard there of pointing suggestively to her (ample) breasts and then refusing to let him wash that night to cleanse his impurity.
That's the high level of investigative expertise our press picks up - the sort of story that probably circulates all over military bars everywhere and which people probably can't believe any reporter, much less 60 minutes, would seriously be interested in.
2005-05-14 14:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=wild_bill]The odd thing in this case is the alledged victim is one of Martin's relatives. This evidently means the relative has filed a complaint and is willing to testify. That's a little different from the usual government set-up.[/QUOTE]This whole episode started with an anonymous tip from who knows (obviously someone with a hatred for Martin). Martin's Grandchildren were taken from him, over a year ago. When I spoke with him last, he said that Henry the youngest has had two birthdays, since he and Roxie have seen him. (even if Martin were guilty why has Roxie not been allowed to see her grandchildren for the last two years?) The so called evidence in this case is coersced testimony from Adam the eldest boy, who is retarded. This testimony was taken by a female social worker, who used a ginger bread boy, to coersce it from Adam. She had the boy show her where 'papa' kissed him, by pinching pieces of the ginger bread boy, which she then allowed him to eat. Real scientific testing here folks, but then what would one expect from the local piglice in the state of Missouri? It has taken them over two years to bring charges against Martin. He is being held on $100,000 bail. He was arrested two days after filing several lawsuits against, several local politicians including Matt (Runt) Blunt and the Newton county sheriff. This whole thing has a foul odor to it. But go ahead Gabbyrelle folks like you and the Downey's can gloat over this. That is until it happens to you. I would like to add this for the folks that assault Martin's intelligence. Martin failed the Missouri Bar exam by two points, that is with out graduating from law skrule or having a juris doctor degree. He probably came closer to passing than Matt Hale ever did. The following is the address for anyone wanting to write to Martin Lindstedt and get his side of the story. The letter must have a name and return address. The newton county jailers will screen his mail.
Newton County Jail ** Deacon Martin Lindstedt ** 208 West Coler ** Neosho, MO. 64850 **
2005-05-14 16:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]She had the boy show her where 'papa' kissed him, by pinching pieces of the ginger bread boy, which she then allowed him to eat. Real scientific testing here folks, but then what would one expect from the local piglice in the state of Missouri?[/QUOTE]The type of "evidence" that I thought had been thoroughly discredited, and which any zealous interrogator can wean from any young child, or child of that mental state, with a little work. From your description this sounds like it has all the subtlety of the famous Soviet "he confessed to the crimes, then died of a heart attack" line of police subtlety.
Now they always tell us "you can't fight city hall" and Martin certainly seems to have done his share to stir people up, but this just isn't right. Too bad he won't have the dream team volunteering to defend him.
Martin does not have a surfeit of friends on the internet - I doubt Alex Linder is going to step forward with another Chester Doles campaign either. Its too bad, cause legally it seems his case was much more bogus than Doles', where at least they used the quite plausible "convicted felon with a firearm" charge. As described this just has "witchhunt" written all over it. Martin himself may not be Snow White, but this is pathetic.
2005-05-14 20:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]This whole episode started with an anonymous tip from who knows (obviously someone with a hatred for Martin). Martin's Grandchildren were taken from him, over a year ago. When I spoke with him last, he said that Henry the youngest has had two birthdays, since he and Roxie have seen him. (even if Martin were guilty why has Roxie not been allowed to see her grandchildren for the last two years?) The so called evidence in this case is coersced testimony from Adam the eldest boy, who is retarded. This testimony was taken by a female social worker, who used a ginger bread boy, to coersce it from Adam. She had the boy show her where 'papa' kissed him, by pinching pieces of the ginger bread boy, which she then allowed him to eat. Real scientific testing here folks, but then what would one expect from the local piglice in the state of Missouri? It has taken them over two years to bring charges against Martin. He is being held on $100,000 bail. He was arrested two days after filing several lawsuits against, several local politicians including Matt (Runt) Blunt and the Newton county sheriff. This whole thing has a foul odor to it. But go ahead Gabbyrelle folks like you and the Downey's can gloat over this. That is until it happens to you. I would like to add this for the folks that assault Martin's intelligence. Martin failed the Missouri Bar exam by two points, that is with out graduating from law skrule or having a juris doctor degree. He probably came closer to passing than Matt Hale ever did. The following is the address for anyone wanting to write to Martin Lindstedt and get his side of the story. The letter must have a name and return address. The newton county jailers will screen his mail.[/Quote]
Show me one post where I gloated about this mess, you lying dog!!!
Martin has a revolting mouth and he does not know when to shut itââ¬Â¦ just like you. The guy is so rude and crude! The schmuck has made a lot of unnecessary enemies because of it.
2005-05-14 22:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Show me one post where I gloated about this mess, you lying dog!!!
Martin has a revolting mouth and he does not know when to shut itââ¬Â¦ just like you. The guy is so rude and crude! The schmuck has made a lot of unnecessary enemies because of it.[/QUOTE]Well if not you, then your friends the Downey's sure have been gloating about it on $tormfront, as has Traitor Glenn and all the whiggers on Phora/Fags. I thought I saw a post on this thread by you, in which you seemed pretty gleeful. Of course it is true, that Martin hasn't made himself most welcome on most of these forums. If tables were turned though, I don't believe he would gloat as many of the whiggers on phora/feebs and $tormfront have. What is funny is that we all profess to have a common enemy, but would rather engage each other.
2005-05-14 22:44 | User Profile
Yeah they never mentioned the pics shown on porn sites of Iraqi women being raped and sodomized etc. I take notice though they vanished from said porn sites very quickly when the word got out though.[QUOTE=weisbrot]Yup, what (most) of the media reported was just simple funnin' of them Muslim boys. Since it was printed up in them there newspapers then it has to be true.
The abuse that has been reported by some human rights groups goes far beyond humiliation and psychological technique. Rapes and deaths are apparently numerous- if these groups are to be believed. Given the recent track record of our lying media I'll go with the other side for now...[/QUOTE]
2005-05-15 00:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Well if not you, then your friends the Downey's sure have been gloating about it on $tormfront, as has Traitor Glenn and all the whiggers on Phora/Fags. I thought I saw a post on this thread by you, in which you seemed pretty gleeful. Of course it is true, that Martin hasn't made himself most welcome on most of these forums. If tables were turned though, I don't believe he would gloat as many of the whiggers on phora/feebs and $tormfront have. What is funny is that we all profess to have a common enemy, but would rather engage each other.[/QUOTE]
Would you please be so kind as to post the links to the threads mentioned above? Thank you. :)
Have you read what they are saying at VNN?
The link: [url]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=18549[/url]
2005-05-15 15:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Would you please be so kind as to post the links to the threads mentioned above? Thank you. :)
Have you read what they are saying at VNN?
The link: [url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=18549"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=18549[/url][/QUOTE]I stand corrected on the thread at $tormfront, it was about Pastor Gulett , not Martin. But you still spouted your mouth off about Lindstedt on this thread. You nor Deb Downey are very good examples of Christian Womanhood. Both of you, project the same attitude, as I can imagine Jezebel & Lilith projected centuries before. You know that Baal priestess temple prostitute attitude. Didn't ol' Ted Weilands kind of evade your question to him about women as Pastors in the Church? As far as I'm aware women have never been equipped to hold the office of Priest. I believe YHVH is against it, of course Baal always had priestess as temple prostitutes. Mark Downey is just like Ahab, he lets his Jezebel rule over him. Keep searching Meggie your Ahab is out there somewhere.:caiphas:
2005-05-16 02:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]I stand corrected on the thread at $tormfront, it was about Pastor Gulett , not Martin. But you still spouted your mouth off about Lindstedt on this thread. You nor Deb Downey are very good examples of Christian Womanhood. Both of you, project the same attitude, as I can imagine Jezebel & Lilith projected centuries before. You know that Baal priestess temple prostitute attitude. Didn't ol' Ted Weilands kind of evade your question to him about women as Pastors in the Church? As far as I'm aware women have never been equipped to hold the office of Priest. I believe YHVH is against it, of course Baal always had priestess as temple prostitutes. Mark Downey is just like Ahab, he lets his Jezebel rule over him. Keep searching Meggie your Ahab is out there somewhere.:caiphas:[/QUOTE]
Go hang yourself, you warlock.
2005-05-16 03:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=GabbyRail]Go hang yourself, you warlock.[/QUOTE]But I'm already hung like Hengist.
2005-05-16 05:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w] As to Martin Lindstedt himself, he's such a loon (at least, his online persona is) that he's probably a much more of a burden than an asset to his cause, and thus if I were "THEM" I would leave him be and let him do as much damage to his cause as possible. On the other hand, he might have annoyed the wrong people such that they are engaged in personal politics rather engaging in impersonal, long term thinking.[/QUOTE]Even if these charges are bogus, Mad Dog should rot in the "jewlag" for high crimes against the English language.
2005-05-16 15:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]Even if these charges are bogus, Mad Dog should rot in the "jewlag" for high crimes against the English language.[/QUOTE]Funny how the 1st Amenment doesn't apply to people you don't like. You sound like a typical weimar jew.:caiphas:
2005-05-16 15:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]This may seem rude coming from an outsider, but I've always been disturbed by the open seeming acceptance in American society of male-on-male rape in the prison system (often with implied racial overtones) .
Every time some guy commits a heinous crime someone will say "hope he gets raped by Bubba inside" or some such comment. Is this all just jokes, or does this stuff really happen? If it does, wouldn't that make it one of the most pressing "human rights" issues in the country? Surely no-one thinks it's OK for a 17 y/o kid to go into prison for 6 months for a drugs charge and become some guy's forced sexual slave. But the way people joke about it sometimes it's almost like they approve of it. How come it's not such a big deal?
I could be wrong, but I've never heard of this happening in Aussie or NZ prisons. I've heard some pretty full-on stories about prison life here, but they all centre around extreme violence conducted with the approval of on-looking guards, and nothing of a homosexual nature.[/QUOTE]
Good post, Roddy.
My dad was sitting waiting on the docket in a Boston courtroom one day as they slapped a fourth life sentence on some guy who -- upset his choice of chicken didn't want to be his girlfriend -- PULLED the kid's dick off and shoved it down his throat to strange him as he bled to death.
No capital punishment in Massachusetts. I'm sure the additional life sentence was quite a blow.
I find the whole thing sick and indicative of the "oh please don't kill me" George Bush sort of Christian who not only obviates any notions of Christian forgiveness or hope but appears almost gleeful at the prospect mad dogs will effect whatever brutality or death the State's to wimpy to deal out.
To my way of thinking, the moratorium on capital punishment is a neat way of getting folks to champ at the bit such that they -- like Texans -- will cheer the moment they get "real men" like the Chrisssshhtun George W. Bush in office who can point with pride to their perfect records of no clemency ... even for those prisoners, strangely enough, whose DNA evidence clears them of the crime for which they've been imprisoned in the first place.
2005-05-16 21:18 | User Profile
[img]http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/all4-03a.jpg[/img]
Faggot JJ Johnson & militia jew Khazarl Worden take a stab at Martin- Please take special note of what this jew has to say.
[url="http://www.sierratimes.com/05/05/12/martyinheat.htm"]http://www.sierratimes.com/05/05/12/martyinheat.htm[/url]
2005-05-17 02:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE] [URL]http://www.sierratimes.com/05/05/12/martyinheat.htm[/URL] [Carl F. Worden] "...Marty Lindstedt is a racist, but his main claim to fame is his absolute hatred for Jews, which is why he loves me so much. Well, Marty, if these charges result in a conviction, I hope they put you in a cell with a degenerate homosexual Jew who happens to hate child molesters. I'd pay good money for the video..." [/QUOTE] Uh Carl... there's just one problem with your suggestion:
Our system is so ââ¬ÅTalmudizedââ¬Â now that finding any ââ¬Ådegenerate homosexual Jewââ¬Â on the inside of a penitentiary is rare. Even more rare is finding a ââ¬Ådegenerate homosexual Jew who happens to hate child molesters.ââ¬Â They all seem to be working in the government or the media.
BTW... where do you work Carl? :smoke:
[QUOTE] [URL]http://www.sierratimes.com/04/10/20/carlworden.htm[/URL] [Carl F. Worden]... I am considered a right-wing Christian conservative and strict constitutionist... ...[/QUOTE] AKA: "Neoconservative"
HYPOCRITE! :thumbd:
2005-05-17 11:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Funny how the 1st Amenment doesn't apply to people you don't like. You sound like a typical weimar jew.:caiphas:[/QUOTE]Isn't that the God of Israel in your sig?:
[QUOTE] The Church of the Sons of YHVH**[/QUOTE] **
Face it, Mad Dog has finally been caged and the streets are safer for it. My advice to your brother in Jeebo: if he's to get along with the Negroes in the slammer he must raise his level of discourse to their's: Ebonics.
2005-05-17 14:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w] But real, honest-to-goodness torture did and does go on there and at Gitmo and other places - beatings, near drownings, electric shocks, dogs, etc. And that's not counting the torture "outsourced" to other countries. Don't fall for the Rush-Limbo spin about "fraternity hazing" and "spring break" type lewd behavior.[/QUOTE] Before I play grammarian and ask you to define torture: evidence? I accept that it may be hard to find, just as evidence of flushing Al Quran down the loo may be hard to find.
If the evidence is there, then :censored: Let the guillotine sing its grizzly song. That kind of conduct "just ain't right."
Angeleyes
2005-05-17 14:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w].
All you have to do is ensure that the really incriminating photos are never shown
Que? The hooded man on the box with the wire going to his nuts, the picture I saw for a month straight on the following news organs: CNN, Sky, Fox, ABC, and Al Jazira.
[QUOTE]
"Spin" the story into nothing more than light-hearted sexual pranks?
[/QUOTE]Wasn't it established (maybe not) that the naked dogpiles were a form of mental duress, and the pictures of the woman appraising their genitalia was intended to get inside the heads of the lads in lock up? Likewise sleep deprivation. What chaps my backsid is that the officers running the prison seem to have gotten a pass. Accountability, anyone? Sorry, I hear the lady general can't be a general anymore.
[QUOTE] . . . the story about the actual torture, rapes, and killings, never even enters the public consiousness.[/QUOTE]With better evidence, they might be. Yes, hard to get that evidence.
[QUOTE]The vast majority do not search out obscure internet discussion forums populated by dissident types. [/QUOTE]Imagine that. It's also interesting to understand that the pictures were released as a counterattack against prosecution. The case went under DoD investigation around November 2003. If you are running a war (its justness set aside for the moment) in the information warfare age, you don't hand bullets to your enemy. Information is a political weapon, war is a political act.
Angeleyes
2005-05-17 16:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]Isn't that the God of Israel in your sig?:
Face it, Mad Dog has finally been caged and the streets are safer for it. My advice to your brother in Jeebo: if he's to get along with the Negroes in the slammer he must raise his level of discourse to their's: Ebonics.[/QUOTE]Quite interesting really to see how pagan NSers are so antireligious they're more than willing to applaud the government in its crackdown on CI.
Like their religious agreement with the gov't trumps their supposed political/racial differences.
Just a coincidence? :ph34r:
2005-05-17 17:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Quite interesting really to see how pagan NSers are so antireligious they're more than willing to applaud the government in its crackdown on CI.
Like their religious agreement with the gov't trumps their supposed political/racial differences.
Just a coincidence? :ph34r:[/QUOTE]
Good post, Okiereddust. Even that gutter mouth jerk Lindstedt deserves a fair trial.
2005-05-17 19:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=GabbyRail]Good post, Okiereddust. Even that gutter mouth jerk Lindstedt deserves a fair trial.[/QUOTE]Damn! Gabby, I'm impressed! this has to be the first unbiased and objective statement, that I've heard you make.
2005-05-17 19:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]My advice to your brother in Jeebo: if he's to get along with the Negroes in the slammer he must raise his level of discourse to their's: Ebonics.[/QUOTE] If you were in his position, you'd be the first to wrap either your lips or your anus around big LeRoy's joystick. So enjoy your glee, and continue to jump around like the syphilitic simian you are.
2005-05-17 22:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]Isn't that the God of Israel in your sig?:
Face it, Mad Dog has finally been caged and the streets are safer for it. My advice to your brother in Jeebo: if he's to get along with the Negroes in the slammer he must raise his level of discourse to their's: Ebonics.[/QUOTE]
Stigmata, that was very wicked of you to say. There is nothing funny about white men being raped!
If a man is worthy of death, then put him to death.
2005-05-18 00:44 | User Profile
| [size=+1]**Lindstedt disrupts proceeding**[/size] *By JOHN FORD / Daily News Associate Editor*Refusing to answer questions about his intent to seek legal counsel, Martin Lindstedt's arraignment Wednesday morning was postponed until next week. Lindstedt, a perennial political candidate who sought election for Missouri governor in 2004 and last sought election in April as a member of the East Newton R-6 Board of Education and as Granby Municipal Judge, was to be arraigned at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday. Lindstedt appeared in court, but instead of answering Newton County Division II Associate Circuit Judge Greg Stremel's questions concerning legal counsel, the self-proclaimed bigot and white supremacist used the platform to espouse his views. "Judge Stremel then returned him to the bench, where he continued to espouse his views," said Bill Dobbs, assistant prosecutor. "I imagine Judge Stremel listened to him for about a minute before it became obvious that the court would not be able to conduct the business it intended for the day." Lindstedt referred to the judge and members of the judicial system as "regime criminals." He was escorted from the courtroom by Newton County Sheriff Ken Copeland and a lieutenant from the sheriff's department. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Report, during his 1998 U.S. Senate bid Lindstedt listed a bill titled "The Extermination of Regime Criminals Act." This measure recommended the death of corrupt politicians and lawyers, as well as the elimination of public schools. "I think it is so important to Martin to have an audience, that he doesn't give a great deal of thought as to the long term affects of what his actions are," Dobbs said. Lindstedt, 47, of Granby, was arrested at around 4 p.m. Tuesday afternoon and was charged with first degree statutory sodomy, an unclassified felony charge which carries a sentence of 10 to 30 years or life in prison if convicted. Lindstedt's accused of having deviate sexual intercourse with a family member under the age of 12. The charges come from a long-standing investigation of Lindstedt by the 40th Judicial Circuit Children's Division and the Newton County Sheriff's Department. The investigation began after a child abuse hotline call, Dobbs said Tuesday. Lindstedt remains in the Newton County Jail on $100,000 bond. This past summer, Lindstedt filed a lawsuit against former Secretary of State Matt Blunt for refusing to print Lindstedt's nickname of "Mad Dog" on the statewide ballot in 2002 and in 2004, during the Granby resident's bids for U.S. Senate and Missouri governor, respectively. In November, the Missouri Attorney General's office asked that the suit be dismissed "with prejudice," which bars the right to bring or maintain an action on the same claim or cause. Lindstedt has filed, and lost, a number of lawsuits against a variety of people and entities in the past. Among these are a 1996 suit against Missouri Southern State College and the city of Joplin, in which Lindstedt sought $1.3 million from the college and $5 million from the city of Joplin for violation of his civil rights. Also during the mid-1990s, he sued the city of Granby alleging violations of his civil rights in connection with a defective equipment charge. Lindstedt also sued the Missouri Libertarian Party in both state and federal courts for kicking the Granby resident out of the organization, and sued Newton County Clerk Kay Baum over his bid for sheriff in 1996. He has also sued Jasper County Judge Joe Shoeberl for alleged constitutional rights violations. Lindstedt will next appear in court at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday before Judge Stremel. [url="http://www.neoshodailynews.com/articles/2005/05/12/news/news04.txt"]http://www.neoshodailynews.com/articles/2005/05/12/news/news04.txt[/url] |
2005-05-18 14:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Quite interesting really to see how pagan NSers are so antireligious they're more than willing to applaud the government in its crackdown on CI. [/QUOTE]How do you know it's a crackdown on CI and not a crackdown on perversion? As for NS, let's just say that Marty appears to be precisely the type of dysgenic misfit the folk is better off without.
2005-05-18 19:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stacata]How do you know it's a crackdown on CI and not a crackdown on perversion? As for NS, let's just say that Marty appears to be precisely the type of dysgenic misfit the folk is better off without.[/QUOTE]It could be that he knows, about the fact that many of them, from the same organization were arrested at the same time. As for NS it isn't doing squat here in the US, will continue to do squat, except armchair quarterback and bitch. NS talk about the glory daze of their empire and how tthe US should be tranformed to the 4th reich. :wallbash:
2005-05-20 01:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle] There is nothing funny about white men being raped! If a man is worthy of death, then put him to death.[/QUOTE]Amen, sister. :thumbsup:
2005-05-20 04:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]How do you know it's a crackdown on CI and not a crackdown on perversion? As for NS, let's just say that Marty appears to be precisely the type of dysgenic misfit the folk is better off without.[/QUOTE]Actually compared to people like Gliebe and Walker Lindstedt is the epitomy of moral rectitude, happily married with 4 grandkids.
Odd NS take such a dim view of him. Obviously his criticisms of mainstream WN organizations, TGMNN, etc., really hit home with leaders. Maybe even more with some of the gov't controllers.
2005-05-20 05:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Actually compared to people like Gliebe and Walker Lindstedt is the epitomy of moral rectitude, happily married with 4 grandkids.
Odd NS take such a dim view of him. Obviously his criticisms of mainstream WN organizations, TGMNN, etc., really hit home with leaders. Maybe even more with some of the gov't controllers.[/QUOTE] I hope the charges are untrue and he gets off, but, let's face it, if you are holding up Lindstedt as some kind of icon of virtue or someone we should be proud of or emulate, I think you're way off course (that's probably not what you're saying, so never mind if I'm off base here).
I think the NS types take a dim view of him because, frankly, Lindstedt is a jerk and behaves like a buffoon. Of course the NS types are nothing to write home about themselves, but just because you don't like NS types is no reason to take Lindstedt's side. Anyone siding with Lindstedt is only going to end up looking foolish by guilt of association.
I don't think most of us know anything about Lindstedt except what we read on the Internet (and is he really happily married? I thought this mess came up due to his divorce), so we really don't have any way of commenting accurately on his family life. His life online, however, is an open book. He's a nut. Really, if you object to Alex Linder merely because of his style and his manner than logically you should have even more objections to Lindstedt. He's like Linder, only far less literate.
Or is your opposition to Linder and mild support of Lindstedt guided only by the degree to which you happen to agree/disagree with them?
2005-05-20 05:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]Before I play grammarian and ask you to define torture: evidence? I accept that it may be hard to find, just as evidence of flushing Al Quran down the loo may be hard to find.
If the evidence is there, then :censored: Let the guillotine sing its grizzly song. That kind of conduct "just ain't right."
Angeleyes[/QUOTE] I'm not going to do your work for you; it's not my fault you haven't been following the news.
You might want to start reading sites like [url]www.antiwar.com[/url] and start learning some facts, for a change.
Here's a review of a recent book documenting torture and abuse that was eyewitnessed and vouched for by someone other than the prisoners themselves......if this is what he was allowed to see as an interpreter, just imagine what he was not allowed to see:
[url]http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1479040,00.html[/url]
This is pretty indicative about the mentality of the "no we don't torture, we abuse" crowd:
Among the most shocking abuses Saar recalls is the use of sex in interrogation sessions. Some female interrogators stripped down to their underwear and rubbed themselves against their prisoners. Pornographic magazines and videos were also used as rewards for confessing.
In one session a female interrogator took off some of her clothes and smeared fake blood on a prisoner after telling him she was menstruating. 'That's a big deal. It is a major insult to one of the world's biggest religions where we are trying to win hearts and minds,' Saar said.
Saar also describes the 'snatch teams', known as the Initial Reaction Force (IRF), who remove unco-operative prisoners from their cells. He describes one such snatch where a prisoner's arm was broken. In a training session for an IRF team, one US soldier posing as a prisoner was beaten so badly that he suffered brain damage. It is believed the IRF team had not been told the 'detainee' was a soldier.
Staff at Guantánamo also faked interrogations for visiting senior officials. Prisoners who had already been interrogated were sat down behind one-way mirrors and asked old questions while the visiting officials watched.
Saar also describes the effects prolonged confinement had on many of the prisoners. He details bloody suicide attempts and serious mental illnesses. One detainee slashed his wrists with razors and wrote in blood on a wall: 'I committed suicide because of the brutality of my oppressors.'
Saar details a meeting with an army lawyer where linguists, interrogators and intelligence workers at the base were told the Geneva Conventions did not apply to their work as the detainees could not be considered normal prisoners of war. At the end of the meeting the group was told: 'We still intend to treat the detainees humanely, but our purpose is to get any actionable intelligence we can and quickly.'
2005-05-20 05:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]Que? The hooded man on the box with the wire going to his nuts, the picture I saw for a month straight on the following news organs: CNN, Sky, Fox, ABC, and Al Jazira. See, you fell for it. You were imprinted with a fairly mild photo (see they are only playing "let's pretend these are real electrical cables; ha ha, it's just a game") whist the really nasty stuff goes unreported and drops down the memory hole.
That photo of the guy on a chair with hood and holding electrical cables was shown all over the media - it was nowhere near the worst they could have shown. The photo of the corpse with the bashed in face was not shown, except on some news websites.
Wasn't it established (maybe not) that the naked dogpiles were a form of mental duress, and the pictures of the woman appraising their genitalia was intended to get inside the heads of the lads in lock up? The best theory I have heard was that they being set up in sexually humiliating positions for purposes of blackmail - ie "infiltrate and inform on the resistance, or we release these photos to your family, friends, and neighbors". It's a highly probable theory given that we are now taking instruction from the Israelis on how to "fight terrorism". Likewise sleep deprivation. What chaps my backsid is that the officers running the prison seem to have gotten a pass. Accountability, anyone? This I agree with. The real culprits never get their name in the paper (national security reasons, of course); only the little guys get to take the fall.> Sorry, I hear the lady general can't be a general anymore.
With better evidence, they might be. Yes, hard to get that evidence. Imagine that. It's also interesting to understand that the pictures were released as a counterattack against prosecution. The case went under DoD investigation around November 2003. If you are running a war (its justness set aside for the moment) in the information warfare age, you don't hand bullets to your enemy. Information is a political weapon, war is a political act.
Angeleyes[/QUOTE] Our Senators (or was it just Congressmen on certain committees; I forget) at least have no excuse; they have seen the really nasty photos and videos (including the video of a rape of a boy) which we are not allowed to see, and they haven't said a peep about it in the media. I suppose they were made to sign a nondisclosure agreement or something? Is boy-buggery a national security issue now?
Some of them seemed pretty shook up and disturbed after viewing the evidence, but not a one of them has changed their votes based on this evidence. They are strictly bought-and-paid-for politicians.
2005-05-20 06:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Actually compared to people like Gliebe and Walker Lindstedt is the epitomy of moral rectitude, happily married with 4 grandkids.[/QUOTE]Is it one of those grandkids Mad Dog's accused of molesting? If true, he's not even up to the dubious bar you've set. Even Gliebe's Gambino-linked stripper is of age, no?
[QUOTE]Obviously his criticisms of mainstream WN organizations, TGMNN, etc., really hit home with leaders. [/QUOTE]Show me one "mainstream" WN org.
2005-05-20 10:45 | User Profile
WN is simply loving and caring about your race and your nation. There is no club or group for WN ... it is in your heart and your mind.
I believe these are virtues God has implanted within us.
2005-05-20 12:09 | User Profile
WN is simply loving and caring about your race and your nation. There is no club or group for WN ... it is in your heart and in your mind.
I believe God has implanted these virtues within us.
2005-05-20 12:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]WN is simply loving and caring about your race and your nation. There is no club or group for WN ... it is in your heart and in your mind.
I believe God has implanted these virtues within us.[/QUOTE] Well said, and true.
2005-05-21 13:00 | User Profile
Accused Green Bay priest adds insanity plea Associated Press GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) - A priest accused of molesting a 10-year-old boy while serving as a counselor at a Catholic school in 1988 asked Friday to change his plea to include a claim that he was not mentally responsible.
The lawyer for Donald Buzanowski, 62, filed a motion for him to plead not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect, in addition to his previous plea of not guilty. If found guilty of the charges, he then would have a second phase of his trial on his sanity at the time.
Buzanowski is charged with two counts of first-degree sexual assault of a child stemming from alleged incidents when he served as a counselor at Ss. Peter & Paul Catholic School in Green Bay.
Defense lawyer Owen Monfils has also filed a motion to bar reporters from hearings leading up to trial. He contended that information from motion hearings could prejudice potential jurors in the case.
The Green Bay Press-Gazette filed a protest to the request.
The issue is expected to be argued at a hearing next Thursday before Brown County Circuit Judge J.D. McKay.
Buzanowski remains jailed in lieu of $100,000 bail.
He has not served as a priest since 1989, and the Green Bay diocese has asked the Vatican to laicize him, or return him to lay status.
Also expected to be argued at the hearing Thursday is the prosecution's effort to have McKay reconsider a bid to introduce a letter Buzanowski wrote to a Milwaukee pastor in 2002, in which he admitted molesting 14 boys from 1969-88. McKay ruled in late April that prosecutors could use information from Buzanowski's conviction in 2002 for possession of child pornography, which sent him to federal prison for 21 months, but the judge said the letter could not be used as evidence. [/color][/size][/font]
[url="http://www.gogreenbay.com/page.html?article=131591"]http://www.gogreenbay.com/page.html?article=131591[/url]
2005-05-22 13:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w]I'm not going to do your work for you; it's not my fault you haven't been following the news.
Thanks for the links, will take a look.
[QUOTE]'I committed suicide because of the brutality of my oppressors.' [/QUOTE] Remember how Stockdale won the Medal of Honor.
While I appreciate the expanded reading list, I take everything with a grain of salt.
2005-05-22 18:44 | User Profile
I agree with you. But Martin doesn't live in a trailer. He lives in a run down house that should be condemed. I should know he only lives around 3 or 4 blocks from me. My nephew married his old lady's daughter. He was taking showers with my nephews oldest step daughter till my nephew found out and stopped it. He deserves everything he gets.
2005-05-22 21:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]I agree with you. But Martin doesn't live in a trailer. He lives in a run down house that should be condemed. I should know he only lives around 3 or 4 blocks from me. My nephew married his old lady's daughter. He was taking showers with my nephews oldest step daughter till my nephew found out and stopped it. He deserves everything he gets.[/QUOTE]Merle, hasn't your nephew James Baldwin, been accused of molesting Helen? How's the ten year old son Josh doing? Does he still shit his pants at school? :blow:
2005-05-22 22:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]I agree with you. But Martin doesn't live in a trailer. He lives in a run down house that should be condemed. I should know he only lives around 3 or 4 blocks from me. My nephew married his old lady's daughter. He was taking showers with my nephews oldest step daughter till my nephew found out and stopped it. He deserves everything he gets.[/QUOTE] So now the members of the "extended family" are emerging...
Mountain Mama, I don't pretend to know the dynamics of the way your family operates. But please explain how Martin's alleged communal shower behavior ties-in with the sodomy charge. The showering was done with a young girl.
Can you see my problem with this "behavioral inconsistency?"
You people give new meaning to the term ââ¬Åblood feud.ââ¬Â
:dry:
2005-05-22 23:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]So now the members of the "extended family" are emerging...
Mountain Mama, I don't pretend to know the dynamics of the way your family operates. But please explain how Martin's alleged communal shower behavior ties-in with the sodomy charge. The showering was done with a young girl.
Can you see my problem with this "behavioral inconsistency?"
You people give new meaning to the term ââ¬Åblood feud.ââ¬Â
:dry:[/QUOTE] Mountain Mama Merle, lives in a glass house. What she is leaving out is that Martin showered with all his grandchildren, when they were younger than 4 years old. The girl Helen, that Merle mentions was younger, than 4 years of age when this happened. These kids lived with he and Roxie from birth.
2005-05-23 01:44 | User Profile
MY NEPHEW HAS NO CHARGES AGAINST HIM. I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD LEAVE MY CHILDREN OUT OF THIS. HE HAD RSV WHEN HE WAS A BABY AND THE DOCTORS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. IT THREW HIM BEHIND ON THINGS. HE'S NOT TO BLAME. YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO GET THE LIGHT OFF MARTIN. I PLAN ON BEING AT HIS COURT. HE'S GOING TO HAVE OTHER CHARGES TOO. BECAUSE OF HIS WEB SITE.
2005-05-23 03:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama Merle]HE'S GOING TO HAVE OTHER CHARGES TOO. [color=red]BECAUSE OF HIS WEB SITE[/color].[/QUOTE] I suspect this is the real reason Martin is being charged, neither you nor the Local regime criminals, really give a damn, whether or not Martin sodomized his grandson, as he is accused of. What really matters is all that hate he's spewing out on his website. Funny how whiggers like you are against Martin's first amendment rights, but fully expect to assert your's.:caiphas: :blow:
2005-05-23 04:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]I agree with you. But Martin doesn't live in a trailer. He lives in a run down house that should be condemed. I should know he only lives around 3 or 4 blocks from me. My nephew married his old lady's daughter. He was taking showers with my nephews oldest step daughter till my nephew found out and stopped it. He deserves everything he gets.[/QUOTE]
Let me get this straight. You are the aunt of Martin's stepson-in-law. Your nephew is married to Roxie's daughter, who is the stepdaughter Lindstedt often talks about.
Is your nephew's oldest stepdaughter the daughter of Roxie's daughter and thus Martin's stepgranddaughter? Did she visit Martin specifically to take showers with him?
2005-05-23 04:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Mountain Mama Merle, lives in a glass house. What she is leaving out is that Martin showered with all his grandchildren, when they were younger than 4 years old. The girl Helen, that Merle mentions was younger, than 4 years of age when this happened. These kids lived with he and Roxie from birth.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I see. In that case, Mountain Mama, why did Roxie's daughter and your nephew leave their children in the care of Roxie and Martin?
Showering with a 4-year-old is not a criminal act.
2005-05-23 04:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]MY NEPHEW HAS NO CHARGES AGAINST HIM. I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD LEAVE MY CHILDREN OUT OF THIS. HE HAD RSV WHEN HE WAS A BABY AND THE DOCTORS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. IT THREW HIM BEHIND ON THINGS. HE'S NOT TO BLAME. YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO GET THE LIGHT OFF MARTIN. I PLAN ON BEING AT HIS COURT. [u]HE'S GOING TO HAVE OTHER CHARGES TOO. BECAUSE OF HIS WEB SITE.[/u] [/QUOTE]
What other charges are being levelled against Martin due to his website?
2005-05-23 09:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]I agree with you. But Martin doesn't live in a trailer. He lives in a run down house that should be condemed.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected.
[QUOTE] He was taking showers with my nephews oldest step daughter till my nephew found out and stopped it. [/QUOTE]Does Lindstedt listen to Michael Jackson's tunes too?
[QUOTE]He deserves everything he gets.[/QUOTE]He courtroom conduct doesn't seem to be that of an innocent man who values his freedom. Any comments on the Lindstedt trial strategy?
2005-05-23 12:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]I stand corrected.
Does Lindstedt listen to Michael Jackson's tunes too?
He courtroom conduct doesn't seem to be that of an innocent man who values his freedom. Any comments on the Lindstedt trial strategy?[/QUOTE]
LOL! Stigmata, what a trouble maker you are! :twisted:
2005-05-23 14:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]LOL! Stigmata, what a trouble maker you are! :twisted:[/QUOTE] Yeah! Sticaca :dung: is quite the Internet Nutzi, he's probably one of the 9, that are part of Traitor Glenn's inner circle jerk over at VNN. :eek:
2005-05-23 14:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=StiCaCa]:dung: He courtroom conduct doesn't seem to be that of an innocent man who values his freedom. Any comments on the Lindstedt trial strategy?[/QUOTE] It's only a so called pre-trial hearing. He doesn't want Joe PleaBargain Public Defender as his attorney with good reason. Martin doesn't stand a chance of getting a fair trial. All involved with this including would be jurors are all predisposed or in the cases of the judge and prosecuting attorney have grudges against Mr. Lindstedt and are not unbiased to start with. I can imagine that, Merle represents the pool of people, that a jury would be drawn from. How totally jewish we've become, the so called Nutzi's even more so. Merle is just another, fat ass whigger with a double digit I.Q. which is representative of the constituency of the majority in that area. They think no further than the nigger ball game on the jewtube, that case of Old Milwaukee or Oly, or the head of their little man. They would convict a man based on their little whigger impulses, regardless of the lack of evidence. But alas what is to be expected of a herd animal, such as the common meat whigger, who has less intelligence and fortitude than cattle.:caiphas:
2005-05-23 17:45 | User Profile
I'm going to let the courts handle it on Martin. On his web site I agree with freedom of speech myself until slander is involved about children and senior citizens. But the charges about his web site are not from my family or myself, but from higher up. About the showers my nephew was at work alot when those happened or not home. Plus his step daughter told my kids stuff in private. It bothered my kids so they told my mother and myself what was said. About my IQ you don't know anything about me except what you've been told.
2005-05-23 19:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama Merle]I'm going to let the courts handle it on Martin.[/QUOTE] That would certainly be the proper course of action.
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama Merle]On his web site I agree with freedom of speech myself until slander is involved about children and senior citizens. [/QUOTE]Please point out the part where he slanders children and the elderly. [QUOTE=Mountain Mama Merle]About the showers my nephew was at work alot when those happened or not home. Plus his step daughter told my kids stuff in private. It bothered my kids so they told my mother and myself what was said. [/QUOTE] So what you're saying is that he has no first hand knowledge of the alleged events, only third hand stories told to him by your children. Children are notorious for embellishing stories. From what I understand Martin and Roxie, have taken care of these children, since they were born. Your nephew and Amalie were more concerned with their genitals and chemicals to make them feel good (Oly, Schaefer, Milwaukee's Best, or Old Milwaukee).
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama Merle]About my IQ you don't know anything about me except what you've been told.[/QUOTE] I know more about you than you realize, and judging by your words of wit, I'll stick to my former judgement of your I.Q.
2005-05-24 13:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER] Martin doesn't stand a chance of getting a fair trial.[/QUOTE]Most certainly not, if he keeps up his "regime criminal" rantings.
[QUOTE] All involved with this including would be jurors are all predisposed or in the cases of the judge and prosecuting attorney have grudges against Mr. Lindstedt and are not unbiased to start with.[/QUOTE]Everyone has a grudge against Mad Dog. How shocking!
[QUOTE]How totally jewish we've become[/QUOTE]Speak for yourself, Son of YHVH.
2005-05-25 03:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=StiCaCa]:dung: Most certainly not, if he keeps up his "regime criminal" rantings.[/QUOTE]This some how justifies what is being done to Martin?:caiphas:
[QUOTE=StiCaCa]:dung: Everyone has a grudge against Mad Dog. How shocking![/QUOTE]You're the typical Internet whigger ass-klown. It's funny as long as it isn't happening to you.:caiphas:
[QUOTE=StiCaCa]:dung: Speak for yourself, Son of YHVH.[/QUOTE]I do speak for my self, spawn of satan.:caiphas:
2005-05-25 09:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=wild_bill]The odd thing in this case is the alledged victim is one of Martin's relatives. This evidently means the relative has filed a complaint and is willing to testify. That's a little different from the usual government set-up.[/QUOTE]
The alleged victim (***VERY[/B][/I] alleged) is a mentally retarded boy (Mr. Linstedt's grandson) of about 12. The official charge pertains to an alleged act of oral-to-anal contact with the boy's rectal cavity.
Martin Linstedt has always been an irrelevant asshole, but do I believe he cavorts about with his tongue shoved up his grandson's arse? In point of fact, I find that quite difficult to believe.
Do I find far-fetched the notion that some of the law eneforcement operatives round about Granby, Missouri might be capable of such a frame job? I imagine such is the case in nearly every county in these United States.
I'm inclined towards a "Free-Martin-Linstedt" position on this. "Mad Dog" is a friggin' dorkasauras, but he ain't a faggoty child molester, at least in so far as my instincts shape my opinion on this matter.
2005-05-25 09:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]I say with the good doctor that we should suspend judgement until al the facts are in.[/QUOTE]
All the facts will never be out, so whatever choice we eventually make, we will be taking a chance we are making the wrong choice. I say, its better to take the chance now, when it can actually do some good, and speak out against what is probably the politically-motivated, false prosecution of Martin Linstedt. If we're wrong, then I'm sure he'll be quite harshly (and more-or-less appropriately) dealt with, and we can apologize for having been too quick to suspect liars of lying.
Mr. Linstedt is, or at least may very well be, getting effectively murdered by corrupt agents of the state. Now is not the time for reticence on the part of those who believe in liberty, or even just plain, old-fashioned moral decency.
2005-05-25 09:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w]real, honest-to-goodness torture did and does go on there and at Gitmo and other places - beatings, near drownings, electric shocks, dogs, etc. And that's not counting the torture "outsourced" to other countries. Don't fall for the Rush-Limbo spin about "fraternity hazing" and "spring break" type lewd behavior.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, do not fall for such transparent, filthy, neo-con lies (the ultimate redundancy). Very true and well-spoken. I'm frankly a tad taken aback that Okie let his defenses down to such an extent as to actually buy into such an absurd cover story. We all make more than our fair share of mistakes (myself included thricely), of course, but let's not permit adherence to this particular *FAUX[/I] News deception barrage to be counted amongst any of ours.
2005-05-25 13:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]It's funny as long as it isn't happening to you. [/QUOTE]Mildly amusing for me, sure, but not for Mad Dog's few friends, so I offer this suggestion, which could be his only hope:
[size=5]The Insanity Defense: A Closer Look [/size]
[size=-1]By John P. Martin
Washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Friday, February 27, 1998[/size]
If Ruthann Aron escapes a prison sentence in her murder-for-hire trial, she might owe thanks to a 19th century Scotsman.
Daniel M'Naghten was a woodworker who believed he was the target of a conspiracy involving the pope and British Prime Minister Robert Peel. In 1843, M'Naghten traveled to 10 Downing Street to ambush Peel, but mistakenly shot and killed Peel's secretary. During the ensuing trial, several psychiatrists testified M'Naghten was delusional. A jury agreed, declaring him not guilty by reason of insanity.
The public howled in outrage and, a year later, a panel of British judges set forth the legal standard that has been used for 150 years ââ¬â and might come into play as Aron's trial proceeds in Montgomery County. The M'Naghten rule says defendants may be acquitted only if they labored "under such defect of reason from disease of the mind" as to not realize what they were doing or why it was a crime. Some call it the "right-wrong" test.
The rule is the basis for most of the American laws permitting an insanity defense, including Maryland's. Here are some basics on the defense:
What is an insanity defense? It typically refers to a plea that defendants are not guilty because they lacked the mental capacity to realize that they committed a wrong or appreciate why it was wrong. Some states also allow defendants to argue that that they understood their behavior was criminal but were unable to control it. This is sometimes called the "irresistible impulse" defense.
Why do we need an insanity defense? It is an attempt to impose a moral check on a system largely designed to weigh facts and evidence. Thus, it allows judges and juries to decide some defendants aren't "criminally responsible" for their actions even though those acts might be a crime under different circumstances, just as a child who accidentally starts a fire shouldn't be treated as an arsonist.
Is the law the same everywhere? Some states have abolished the use of an insanity defense, an action upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1994. Some have amended their laws to include standards of "diminished capacity" or "guilty but mentally ill," but most have roots in the M'Naghten rule. Maryland's statute, the one Aron will employ, defines the plea as "guilty but not criminally responsible by reason of insanity."
**Are insanity defenses often successful? ** No, despite public perceptions to the contrary. One eight-state study of criminal cases in the early 1990s concluded that less than one percent of defendants pleaded insanity and, of them, only a quarter won aquittals.
"In the real world, it just doesn't happen," said Maryland Attorney General Joseph Curran, who as lieutenant governor in 1983 chaired a task force that helped tighten that state's insanity defense.
Then why are they controversial? Critics argue that some defendants misuse it, effectively faking insanity to win acquittals or less severe convictions. And often the trials involving an insanity defense get the most attention because they involve "crimes that are bizarre within themselves," said Baltimore defense attorney Cristina Gutierrez, who has defended a dozen such cases in as many years.
But studies by the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law have concluded that "the overwhelming majority" of defendants acquitted by reason of insanity suffer from schizophrenia or some other mental illness, said Howard Zonana, a Yale University psychiatry professor and the academy's medical director.
Do people acquitted under an insanity defense walk free? Rarely. In almost all cases, a verdict of not guilty by reason of insanity prompts a judge to commit defendants to treatment centers until mental health officials determine they do not pose a danger to anyone. For some, that could be akin to a life sentence. M'Naghten, for instance, died after 20 years in a mental asylum.
Aron, if ruled guilty but not criminally responsible, would have to petition Maryland's mental health department for her release.
How does someone pleading "not guilty by reason of insanity" differ from someone deemed "incompetent to stand trial?" The former term refers to a defendant's state of mind at the time of the crime; the latter refers to a defendant's mindset at time of trial. Usually, a trial will not proceed until a defendant is deemed competent to understand the charges and face accusers.
**Is it used only in murder cases? ** No, any defendant can invoke the defense. Lorena Bobbitt argued she was temporarily insane when she severed her husband's penis with a kitchen knife four years ago. A Virginia jury agreed; she was released after three months of psychiatric evaluation.
Who else used the insanity defense? A jury rejected Jack Ruby's claim of insanity and sent him to prison for shooting Lee Harvey Oswald, the assassin of President John F. Kennedy. Almost 20 years later, John Hinckley shot President Ronald Reagan ââ¬â like Oswald, in front of a throng of television cameras ââ¬â but was declared not guilty by reason of insanity and sent to a mental institution.
The insanity defense didn't help David Berkowitz, New York's "Son of Sam" murderer who claimed to receive his killing orders from a neighbor's dog. A Pennsylvania jury found millionaire John DuPont guilty but mentally ill last year in the murder of a wrestling coach. Lawyers for Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski argued that he was insane, but Kaczynski himself resisted such a defense and pleaded guilty. Jeffrey Dahmer dismembered and ate his victims, but his jury failed to deem him insane.
Has the standard changed? It gets periodic review, especially after a verdict the public finds shocking. After the Hinckley ruling, Congress and some states, including Maryland, passed laws designed to toughen standards in insanity defenses. Instead of requiring prosecutors to prove a defendant's sanity, defense attrorneys now carry the burden of persuading a judge or jury their clients are insane.
Some also adopted a tougher release system. Such changes in Connecticut doubled the average term acquitted defendants spend committed in institutions and apparently caused the number of insanity pleas to drop, said Zonana, the Yale psychiatrist.
"So you really got to be crazy to take an insanity defense," he said.
Why would a sane person plead insanity? Forensic psychiatrist Jonas Rappeport routinely saw such pleas during his quarter century as chief medical officer of Baltimore's Circuit Court. Rarely were they successful.
But, he said, "When you've got no better defense, that's the way to go."
[url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/aron/qa227.htm"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/aron/qa227.htm[/url]
2005-05-25 17:49 | User Profile
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[center][font=Times New Roman][size=3]I have probable cause to believe that Lindstedt, Martin Frederick 12-25-57 SSN/ mark of the beast, committed one or more criminal offenses.[/size][/font][/center]
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[font=Times New Roman][size=3]1)[/size] [size=3]Child molestation in the first degree (566.067RSMO)[/size][/font]
[font=Times New Roman][size=3]2)[/size] [size=3]The date of the criminal offense as definitely as I can state was on or about: Between March and August of 2003.[/size][/font]
[font=Times New Roman][size=3]3)[/size] [size=3]The place of the criminal offense as definitely as I can state was at, 338 and 337 Rabbit Track Rd, Granby in Newton County Missouri.[/size][/font]
[font=Times New Roman][size=3]4)[/size] [size=3]The facts supporting this belief are as follows: During therapy with Tracy Vorhees, Lpc Malachi Adam Deines revealed that Martin Lindstedt had committed child molestation by kissing his penis, buttocks, stomach, and back. Malachi reported to Vorhees that the kissing had occurred several times and he was five years old when it started. Malachi stated it happened at his house and at Lindstedtââ¬â¢s house.[/size][/font]
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2005-05-25 18:22 | User Profile
**PRESS RELEASE **
**I, Martin 'Mad Dog' Lindstedt, a frequent candidate for governor, US Senate, municipal judge and skrule-bored member have to say the following about my postponed 'arraignment' of May 11th. **
**First of all, this charge of alleged child molestation of my grandson Malachi Adam Deines is nothing more than the lies of a professional 'therapist' or 'Children's Advocate' out to on behalf of the Division of Family Services bureaucrats to steal & sell for adopton as many White kids from the poor and political enemies of the government. This Tracy Vorhess bitch simply gets to small little stupid kids and trains them to denounce their parents and grandparents to a secret family court. When they do so, then these regime korts and DFS bureaucrats then set to keep all the kids, not just the one who made up the story. Then as needed, the Police then take this hearsay 'evidence' about what these brain-washed children allegedly said to the lying therapist and make of it a charge of child molestation which a crooked prosecutor files as an 'information' based upon his 'belief' that this abusive process is true. Then a crooked judge chooses to believe the lying allegation and signs a warrant for an arrest and investigation on other charges. This is exactly what happened to myself. **
There is no ending of this cycle of lawlessness other than Revolution. If it was up to me, I'd skin alive the .............. ** Only harsh, quick cruel counter-terrorism & violence or a Revolution will stop these regime criminals. **
Since the process was illegal on its very face, my strategy upon arraignment by Stremel was to make Stremel take responsibility for issuing an arrest warrant on second-hand perjury. After all, there is no real probable cause other than the vague allegations of kissing "all over" no real physical evidence, and extremely vague about time and place. Yet Stremel refused to justify his arrest warrant by deliberately refusing to read the charges and the penalties, the probable cause affidavit and even what the law was. Stremel wanted to run his usual railroad and didn't like it when I derailed it. I scoffed at there being a 'serviceableble charge' of felony- from A-D. I laughed at how inappropriate it was that a closet faggot was accusing me of sodomy. I brought up Mild Bill Dobb's letting an admitted child molester get away with molesting my grand-daughter Helen Deines - covering it up. I brought up Dobbs being so chicken-st that he didn't dare file an appellate brief on Roxie's Appeal to the Missouri Court of Appeals. SD26446 & 26449. Then Stremel unlawfully refused to arraign me and sentenced me to another week in jail. I played up to the camera & then the crowd outside. Copeland & Leavens were pissed. Copeland tried to shove me into a door, then threatened to kill me if I ever got out. I told the pigs that time would tell. **
**Mild Bill Slobbs got his side in. I didn't get mine. That is to be expected. The jews media is the lying tongue of ZOG. **
There is to be no legal defense fund or foolishness over my imprisonment. Only I can fight my way free. If I am to be a Martyr, then so be it. Support me for the long term with a prayer here and there, and letters. I could use your letters. ML.
2005-05-25 21:01 | User Profile
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[size=3][font=Times New Roman]The prosecuting attorney of the county of Newton, State of Missouri: upon information and belief, charges that the defendant, in violation of section 566.062,RSMO, committed the felony of statutory sodomy in the first degree, punishable upon conviction under section 566.062, RSMO, in that on or about March 2003, in the County of Newton, State of Missouri, the defendant had deviate sexual intercourse with Malachi A. Deines, who was then less than twelve years old.[/font][/size]
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[size=3][font=Times New Roman]The facts that form the basis for this information and belief are contained in the attached statement(s) of facts concerning this matter, which statement(s) are made a part hereof and are submitted herewith as a basis upon which this court may find the existence of probable cause for the issuance of the warrant.[/font][/size]
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[size=3][font=Times New Roman]Wherefore, the prosecuting attorney prays that on an arrest warrant be issued as provided by law.[/font][/size]
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2005-05-25 22:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE]First of all, this charge of alleged child molestation of my grandson Malachi Adam Deines is nothing more than the lies of a professional 'therapist' or 'Children's Advocate' out to on behalf of the Division of Family Services bureaucrats to steal & sell for adopton as many White kids from the poor and political enemies of the government. This Tracy Vorhess bitch simply gets to small little stupid kids and trains them to denounce their parents and grandparents to a secret family court. [/QUOTE] So characteristic that this pattern of repressed memory unearthed by child behavioral science "experts" is the weapon de choice of today's witch hunt inclined prosecutors.
Looks like Martin is going to get his wish - going down as a martyr.
2005-05-25 23:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Looks like Martin is going to get his wish - going down as a martyr.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps, but if so, he may have finally found a way in which he can be of actual service to the movement (for lack of a better term) to which he would claim some level of adherence. Martyrs are right handy when it comes to demonstrating the degree to which vile corruption and criminal brutality has come to characterize our present, transient regime. If the regime is stupid enough to permit Martin to die a swift death at the hands of Negro predators, then his suffering will be mercifully brief, and we will be able to point to an innocent man murdered by them. If he's willing to go that route, we should gratefully accept his manfully born sacrifice, and try to ensure it does not go to waste.
I still think an acquittal, or a hung jury, may well loom in Martin's future, however.
2005-05-25 23:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]Perhaps, but if so, he may have finally found a way in which he can be of actual service to the movement (for lack of a better term) to which he would claim some level of adherence. Martyrs are right handy when it comes to demonstrating the degree to which vile corruption and criminal brutality has come to characterize our present, transient regime. [/QUOTE]Logically OK, but sounds a little cold-blooded to me, like of course the other NA types seem to re: Martin.
I hope you don't mean we should cynically use him the way communists have been known to use so-called martyrs. Thought ever cross anybody's mind in WN to do a little something to keep him from becoming a martyr? Otherwise I don't think the regime will hold 100 % responsibility for his martyrdom. :huh:
2005-05-25 23:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Logically OK, but sounds a little cold-blooded to me
You described martyrdom as being the fulfillment of his wish.
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I hope you don't mean we should cynically use him the way communists have been known to use so-called martyrs.
I don't know. Does it work?
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Thought ever cross anybody's mind in WN to do a little something to keep him from becoming a martyr? Otherwise I don't think the regime will hold 100 % responsibility for his martyrdom. :huh:[/QUOTE]
I'm open to suggestions....
2005-05-26 00:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]You described martyrdom as being the fulfillment of his wish. Maybe now. But I don't want any part in being or assisting another Dr. Kervorkian
[QUOTE]I don't know. Does it work?[/QUOTE]Cynically use people for propoganda purposes you really don't care about? Its hard to say. Did mass terror and lies work for communism? In the short term some argue it did. But I'm not going that route.
I'm open to suggestions....[/QUOTE] All sorts of things are available of course. Sixkiller sounds like he's got a few ideas.
I'm not saying another full-fledged Chester Doles campaign is called for. Doles got in trouble precisely because of his effectiveness, which made his arrest a de facto atack on the whole NA, especially its best faction. (The vital grassroots sector). Martin seems just to enjoy just playing the lone-wolf crank, and almost baiting the powers that be. But let's keep our eyes out for him.
2005-05-26 01:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]...Martin seems just to enjoy just playing the lone-wolf crank, and almost baiting the powers that be. But let's keep our eyes out for him.[/QUOTE]
:cheers:
2005-05-26 06:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]The prosecuting attorney of the county of Newton, State of Missouri: upon information and belief, charges that the defendant, in violation of section 566.062,RSMO, committed the felony of statutory sodomy in the first degree, punishable upon conviction under section 566.062, RSMO, in that on or about March 2003, in the County of Newton, State of Missouri, the defendant had deviate sexual intercourse with Malachi A. Deines, who was then less than twelve years old.[/font][/size] [/QUOTE]Don't they normally shield the names of victims in cases of this sort???
2005-05-26 10:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]Don't they normally shield the names of victims in cases of this sort???[/QUOTE]
Of course they do. Everyone knows that. But Mr. Linstedt is a White Nationalist (albeit an eccentric and often personally irritating one), hence the rules don't apply. Whatever works for the Jews is the order of the day, rather naturally.
2005-05-26 20:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=StiCaCa]:dung: Don't they normally shield the names of victims in cases of this sort???[/QUOTE]These aren't originals of the documents. They were taken from hand written copies that Martin sent to me. He has altered them such as not including his SSN and the name of the reviewing officer, just his badge number. It is possible that in the original just the childs intials were given. I typed them from the hand written copy he sent to me. If one wants to view the original, the case # were included in what I posted, and the documents are public record.
2005-05-27 03:34 | User Profile
Lindstedt: Charge based on 'hearsay'
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Lindstedt: Charge based on 'hearsay'
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By JOHN FORD / Daily News Associate Editor Claiming the case against him was based on "third rate hearsay," that he was "railroaded," and that he was "never properly arraigned in open court," perennial political candidate Martin "Mad Dog" Lindstedt was back in court Wednesday.
Lindstedt, 47, of Granby, faces a felony charge of first degree statutory sodomy. He was arrested May 10 on charges he had deviant sexual intercourse with a child younger than 12 years of age during the month of March 2003.
"Is this on the record?" the self-admitted bigot asked Division II Associate Circuit Judge Greg Stremel, who has been presiding in the case so far. "I was not properly arraigned and this is a bogus arrest warrant based on third rate hearsay. I've not had a proper arraignment in open court."
"An arraignment is a reading of the charges against you, and I have read those to you twice now," said Stremel. "I will read them a third time."
Stremel read the charges and from the probable cause affidavit. In summary, the documents stated Lindstedt inappropriately kissed a young child between March and August 2003, including kissing the child's back, stomach, buttocks and private area. The judge then set a preliminary hearing for 10 a.m. June 13.
"That probable cause statement is nothing more than third rate hearsay," Lindstedt reiterated, as two corrections officers grabbed him by either arm to lead him from the courtroom. "First, they stole my grandchildren, now they are railroading me on this charge. You have not properly arraigned me!"
According to Bill Dobbs, assistant Newton County prosecuting attorney, the victim was a member of Lindstedt's family and charges stem from a long-standing investigation conducted by the 40th Judicial Court's children's division and the Newton County Sheriff's Department. The investigation began in response to a child abuse and neglect hotline call.
Lindstedt, who remains in jail in lieu of $100,000 bond, has been disruptive in court on two previous occasions, calling those in the judicial system "regime criminals" when asked whether he had sought private counsel, or wished to have a court appointed attorney.
Lindstedt has sought a variety of political offices over the years as a Libertarian, a member of the Reform Party, and as a Republican. Among these are a 2004 bid for Missouri governor, and races in April for a seat on the East Newton R-6 School Board and as Granby Municipal Judge.
This past summer, Lindstedt filed a lawsuit against former Secretary of State Matt Blunt for refusing to print Lindstedt's nickname of "Mad Dog" on the statewide ballot in 2002 and in 2004, during the Granby resident's bids for U.S. Senate and Missouri governor, respectively. In November, the Missouri Attorney General's office asked that the suit be dismissed "with prejudice," which bars the right to bring or maintain an action on the same claim or cause.
On Tuesday, Lindstedt submitted a handwritten motion to the U.S. District Court of Western Missouri asking that this suit be reinstated.
"This court is biased in favor of defendant Blunt and it shows in every aspect of this case," Lindstedt wrote.
Lindstedt claims Blunt, then secretary of state, misused his position when he did not allow Lindstedt to list his "Mad Dog" nickname on the ballot. And, the Granby man said, the judge never addressed Blunt's refusal to provide a link to his web page.
Blunt's attorneys have said the website contained racist and hateful postings. And according to the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Report, during his 1998 U.S. Senate bid, Lindstedt touted a bill titled "The Extermination of Regime Criminals Act." This measure recommended the death of corrupt politicians and lawyers, as well as the elimination of public schools.
Lindstedt has filed, and lost, a number of lawsuits against a variety of people and entities in the past. Among these are a 1996 suit against Missouri Southern State College and the city of Joplin, in which Lindstedt sought $1.3 million from the college and $5 million from the city of Joplin for violation of his civil rights. Also during the mid-1990s, he sued the city of Granby alleging violations of his civil rights in connection with a defective equipment charge.
Lindstedt also sued the Missouri Libertarian Party in both state and federal courts for kicking the Granby resident out of the organization, and sued Newton County Clerk Kay Baum over his bid for sheriff in 1996. He has also sued Jasper County Judge Joe Shoeberl for alleged constitutional rights violations.
2005-05-27 06:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]It is possible that in the original just the childs intials were given. I typed them from the hand written copy he sent to me. [/QUOTE]So if you cared about the Lindstedt family you might have been more discreet in posting the real name of the victim on a public forum. Or do you suppose the poor child enjoys free publicity as much as granddad does?
Anyway, another view on Mad Dog:
**Sodomite linked to fund-raiser for Jewish attorney **
**Lindstedt had denounced critics as "pederasts" **
KANSAS CITY - He was a bundle of contradictions, which, in the end, earned him not a public-office, which he had sought, but a prison uniform. Martin Lindstedt called himself a "White Nationalist," but he insisted on denouncing Nationalists as "traitors." He aspired to hold public office as a "White Nationalist," but placed himself on the ballot as a "Libertarian," which is the exact opposite of "Nationalist." He never received but a smattering of votes, yet claimed to be a "White-Nationalist" "leader." His "organization," entitled White Nationalists, consisted of a webpage, operated from his Missouri residence, in which he denounced Nationalists as "pederasts," meaning those who engage in homosexuality with young boys.
Shortly after, Lindstedt, 48, was arrested for being a "pederast," himself. Jailed for engaging in sex with a five-year-old boy, Lindstedt said that he refused to recognize the court or to request a lawyer. News accounts labeled him a "white supremacist," although he held no membership in any pro-majority organizations. Lindstedt had rebuked Nationalist leaders as "self-serving," preferring Matt Hale, who had denounced Nationalists as "childish" and "liars" and is serving a forty-year sentence for murder-solicitation. Lindstedt claimed, on the one hand, to oppose Jews, but, on the other hand, he linked from his website to Justin Raimondo, a prominent Jew. The "first-degree-Sodomy" charge carries a life-sentence.
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Lindstedt claimed to abhor lawyers, but highly praised Alex Linder, the fund-raiser for Edwin Marger, a Jewish Atlanta lawyer. Linder, who describes himself as a "rising-star," had called for a "boycott" against Nationalists, who he termed "peculiar." Several websites, critical of Nationalists, had sprung up, mimicking the charges of unlawful conduct, hurled by Lindstedt and Linder against Nationalists, but all had been taken down by Nationalists for violating copyright, trademark and pornography restrictions. Lindstedt, who had once referred to himself as a "common-law" lawyer, is being held on $100,000.00 bond on a charge of unnatural deviant sexual-intercourse with a child under twelve.
Nationalists disavowed any connection to Lindstedt and said that they had strongly disapproved of Lindstedt's using the term "White Nationalist" for his webpage. Lindstedt had been arrested a month previously, when he refused to stop speaking when his allotted time in addressing a local government-commission expired. Wearing a Beatles haircut, with lengthy sideburns, Lindstedt refers to himself as a "Mad Dog." He claims that he does not recognize the authority of the law, which has drawn praise from anarchists. But, he had filed various pro se lawsuits, claiming that his "rights" had been violated by a local college and the FBI, all of which had been dismissed.
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2005-05-27 08:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=StiCaCa]:dung: So if you cared about the Lindstedt family you might have been more discreet in posting the real name of the victim on a public forum. Or do you suppose the poor child enjoys free publicity as much as granddad does?[/QUOTE] I transcribed what Martin had written, the childs name was written on both documents he sent me. Martin asked me to post both documents on the Internet. If you care to take a closer look, Martin had already published both the childs name and his photo on his website. At any rate I have serious doubts that either ZOG or your arrogant ass really care about the child.
2005-05-29 05:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]I transcribed what Martin had written, the childs name was written on both documents he sent me. Martin asked me to post both documents on the Internet. If you care to take a closer look, Martin had already published both the childs name and his photo on his website. At any rate I have serious doubts that either ZOG or your arrogant ass really care about the child.[/QUOTE]1. Do you do everything Mad Dog tells you? Is he some kind of CI Pope?
Why would Mad Dog expose his own grandchild on the web like that? Makes one wonder about other things he might be doing bot in the best interests of the kid.
"ZOG" now includes the child protection authorities of Granby County, MO? LOL.
2005-05-29 06:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=StiCaCa]:dung: 1. Do you do everything Mad Dog tells you? Is he some kind of CI Pope?[/QUOTE] I stated that Martin asked me to post the documents. Last time I checked there is a difference between asking a person to do something, and ordering (telling) a person to do something. What jewr implying is that I'm incapable of acting or thinking on my own. BUT WHAT WOULD ODES' OAFISHAL DICKTASTER (troll) KNOW? except noahide law, and how to gobble foreskins and gefelte fish. Of course jewr just conducting jewrself as jewr commanded to do by Genesis 3:15.
[QUOTE=StiCaCa] :dung: 2. Why would Mad Dog expose his own grandchild on the web like that? Makes one wonder about other things he might be doing bot in the best interests of the kid.[/QUOTE] jew would have to ask him that question. A kike would wonder about such things. (it pretends to give a shit about the grandchild of it's enemy) I think it's called sticking jewr nose where it don't belong. (explains why jewr nose is so big and brown)
[QUOTE=StiCaCa]:dung: 3. "ZOG" now includes the child protection authorities of Granby County, MO? LOL.[/QUOTE]ZOG includes any part of the regime, that presently occupies both federal and local positions of power.
2005-05-29 14:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]
KANSAS CITY - He was a bundle of contradictions, which, in the end, earned him not a public-office, which he had sought, but a prison uniform. Martin Lindstedt called himself a "White Nationalist," but he insisted on denouncing Nationalists as "traitors." He aspired to hold public office as a "White Nationalist," but placed himself on the ballot as a "Libertarian," which is the exact opposite of "Nationalist." He never received but a smattering of votes, yet claimed to be a "White-Nationalist" "leader." His "organization," entitled White Nationalists, consisted of a webpage, operated from his Missouri residence, in which he denounced Nationalists as "pederasts," meaning those who engage in homosexuality with young boys.
Shortly after, Lindstedt, 48, was arrested for being a "pederast," himself. Jailed for engaging in sex with a five-year-old boy, Lindstedt said that he refused to recognize the court or to request a lawyer. News accounts labeled him a "white supremacist," although he held no membership in any pro-majority organizations. Lindstedt had rebuked Nationalist leaders as "self-serving," preferring Matt Hale, who had denounced Nationalists as "childish" and "liars" and is serving a forty-year sentence for murder-solicitation. Lindstedt claimed, on the one hand, to oppose Jews, but, on the other hand, he linked from his website to Justin Raimondo, a prominent Jew. The "first-degree-Sodomy" charge carries a life-sentence.
Websites shut down
Lindstedt claimed to abhor lawyers, but highly praised Alex Linder, the fund-raiser for Edwin Marger, a Jewish Atlanta lawyer. Linder, who describes himself as a "rising-star," had called for a "boycott" against Nationalists, who he termed "peculiar." Several websites, critical of Nationalists, had sprung up, mimicking the charges of unlawful conduct, hurled by Lindstedt and Linder against Nationalists, but all had been taken down by Nationalists for violating copyright, trademark and pornography restrictions. Lindstedt, who had once referred to himself as a "common-law" lawyer, is being held on $100,000.00 bond on a charge of unnatural deviant sexual-intercourse with a child under twelve.
Nationalists disavowed any connection to Lindstedt and said that they had strongly disapproved of Lindstedt's using the term "White Nationalist" for his webpage. Lindstedt had been arrested a month previously, when he refused to stop speaking when his allotted time in addressing a local government-commission expired. Wearing a Beatles haircut, with lengthy sideburns, Lindstedt refers to himself as a "Mad Dog." He claims that he does not recognize the authority of the law, which has drawn praise from anarchists. But, he had filed various pro se lawsuits, claiming that his "rights" had been violated by a local college and the FBI, all of which had been dismissed.
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WOW! Is stuff true?
2005-05-29 21:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabbyrail]WOW! Is stuff true?[/QUOTE] I guess that all depends on one's definition of truth. I noticed the author signed his name to this Bull :dung: . It's standard fare for nutzis like StiCaCa to parrot this BS.
2005-05-30 12:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]I stated that Martin asked me to post the documents. Last time I checked there is a difference between asking a person to do something, and ordering (telling) a person to do something. What jewr implying is that I'm incapable of acting or thinking on my own. BUT WHAT WOULD ODES' OAFISHAL DICKTASTER (troll) KNOW? except noahide law, and how to gobble foreskins and gefelte fish. Of course jewr just conducting jewrself as jewr commanded to do by Genesis 3:15.[/QUOTE]You were the only one to publicize the victim's name on OD. Therefore, you should either explain why you independently thought it was a good idea, or admit you blindly follow the orders of CI's Mad Dog Lindstedt, whose vulgar writing you emulate and whose Jewish Bible you worship.
2005-05-30 14:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]You were the only one to publicize the victim's name on OD. Therefore, you should either explain why you independently thought it was a good idea, or admit you blindly follow the orders of CI's Mad Dog Lindstedt, whose vulgar writing you emulate and whose Jewish Bible you worship.[/QUOTE]
He does, doesn't he? Sad.
2005-05-30 16:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=SteppedInTheCaCa] :dung: You were the only one to publicize the victim's name on OD. Therefore, you should either explain why you independently thought it was a good idea, or admit you blindly follow the orders of CI's Mad Dog Lindstedt, whose vulgar writing you emulate and whose Jewish Bible you worship.[/QUOTE] What a juvenile argument. Are you still in kindergarten? You have parroted this same line several times, which I answered several times. I copied a hand written document that Martin sent, which he had copied from the original. Roxie told me that the original documents name the victim, just as it was posted. I don't worship nor do I read the jewish bible (the talmud), you're showing your ignorance again. Are you a jew? You definitely behave as one. I can excuse whiggers like Gabby, as it is obvious what they are. When I encounter behavior such as yours, it's usually based on Genesis 3:15 enmity, such as you have shown.:caiphas:
2005-05-31 06:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]What a juvenile argument. Are you still in kindergarten? You have parroted this same line several times, which I answered several times. I copied a hand written document that Martin sent, which he had copied from the original. Roxie told me that the original documents name the victim, just as it was posted. I don't worship nor do I read the jewish bible (the talmud), you're showing your ignorance again. Are you a jew? You definitely behave as one. I can excuse whiggers like Gabby, as it is obvious what they are. When I encounter behavior such as yours, it's usually based on Genesis 3:15 enmity, such as you have shown.:caiphas:[/QUOTE]Who is Roxie? Can she speak for Mad Dog? If so, kindly have her explain why Mad Dog would publicize the name of his own grandchild as the victim of an alleged sex crime.
That still does not justify your identifying the victim here. No "original documents have been posted on OD, just the press account, in which the victim is protected. Why did you publicly name the victim of a sex crime, 6-Pack?
2005-05-31 07:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=SteppedInTheCaCa] :dung: Who is Roxie? Can she speak for Mad Dog? If so, kindly have her explain why Mad Dog would publicize the name of his own grandchild as the victim of an alleged sex crime.
That still does not justify your identifying the victim here. No "original documents have been posted on OD, just the press account, in which the victim is protected. Why did you publicly name the victim of a sex crime, 6-Pack?[/QUOTE] Roxie is Martin's wife. I've explained (several times) that I posted what Martin had written and sent to me and asked me to post. This was copied from the original documents that he was given. I don't have to justify myself to your stupid ass. And it is alleged victim, the charges haven't been proven. Their whole case hinges on the testimony of a mentally retarded child. That's their evidence.
2005-05-31 12:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Roxie is Martin's wife. I've explained (several times) that I posted what Martin had written and sent to me and asked me to post. This was copied from the original documents that he was given. I don't have to justify myself to your stupid ass. And it is alleged victim, the charges haven't been proven. Their whole case hinges on the testimony of a mentally retarded child. That's their evidence.[/QUOTE] Roxy is Martin's live in girlfriend. They are not married. Bubba is not retarded. He only has a mild speech defect. You shouldn't of printed his name. I don't care if Martin asked you to or not. Bubba (as a child) has his right to be protected.
2005-05-31 16:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]Roxy is Martin's live in girlfriend. They are not married. Bubba is not retarded. He only has a mild speech defect. You shouldn't of printed his name. I don't care if Martin asked you to or not. Bubba (as a child) has his right to be protected.[/QUOTE] Roxie is Martin's common law wife. You're probably right Merle Turner.
2005-05-31 21:51 | User Profile
Sadly everyone involved in this case seem to be the kind of people that give Hillbillies a bad name. :wacko:
2005-06-01 01:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]... Bubba is not retarded. He only has a mild speech defect. ...[/QUOTE] Now you're saying that Bubba has only "a mild speech defect?ââ¬Â
Now, remember what you told us before:
[QUOTE= Mountain Mama]MY NEPHEW HAS NO CHARGES AGAINST HIM. I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD LEAVE MY CHILDREN OUT OF THIS. HE HAD RSV WHEN HE WAS A BABY AND THE DOCTORS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. IT THREW HIM BEHIND ON THINGS. HE'S NOT TO BLAME. ...[/QUOTE] RSV?
[QUOTE] [URL]http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/rsv.html[/URL] ââ¬ÅRespiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) infection is a viral disease of the lungs. It is one of the most important causes of lower respiratory tract illness in infants and young children.ââ¬Â [/QUOTE] OK... so the youngster had RSV as a child and developed some other problems as a result. Fine.
How does the child's medical condition enhance his credibility Mountain Mama? :confused:
I must admit though... a witness/victim like this is an unethical prosecutor's dream. Talk about generating sympathy from a jury... :smoke:
2005-06-01 11:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Now you're saying that Bubba has only "a mild speech defect?ââ¬Â
Now, remember what you told us before:
RSV?
OK... so the youngster had RSV as a child and developed some other problems as a result. Fine.
How does the child's medical condition enhance his credibility Mountain Mama? :confused:
I must admit though... a witness/victim like this is an unethical prosecutor's dream. Talk about generating sympathy from a jury... :smoke:[/QUOTE]I'm sorry I didn't make myself clear on this. I wasn't talking about Bubba having RSV when he was a baby. I was repling back to 6KILLER when he was asking me how my son was doing and if he still was having accidents in his pants at school. All Bubba does have is a mild speech defect.
2005-06-01 18:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Sadly everyone involved in this case seem to be the kind of people that give Hillbillies a bad name. :wacko:[/QUOTE] Qualify this statement. In other words explain this assumption. It's the kind of statement that know nothing whiggers routinely make, as a cover for their ignorance and whiggerdumb.:rolleyes:
2005-06-03 05:54 | User Profile
[size=4]Martin's Bail of $100,000 is it Justified?
**[/size]I'm posting the following article from The Idaho Statesman it is about a local University football player who is charged with three counts of felony vehicular manslaughter and one count of leaving an accident scene. His bail was set at $20,000, which he posted today. I ask this. How is this justified when someone like Martin has his bail set at $100,000? In this particular case of the football player Cam Hall, there is the forensic evidence of 3 dead human beings and many eyewitness accounts. In Martin's case there is only the testomony of a child that was coersced. And this is justice? **
[size=4][color=darkred]Cam Hall arraigned, posts $20,000 bond[/color] [/size] Preliminary hearing set for July 21
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Additional InformationBSU football team suspends Hall, who may not play this year
Cam Hall was automatically suspended from the Boise State University football team Tuesday after he was charged with three counts of felony vehicular manslaughter and one count of leaving an accident scene. Hall is barred from all student-athlete privileges, including use of the locker room, training room and football facility and participating in the team's summer workouts, BSU Athletic Director Gene Bleymaier said. A student conduct committee will decide whether Hall will be on the field when the Broncos open the season Sept. 3 at Georgia, or whether he will play this year at all. Bleymaier said the committee may meet this week, but he wasn't sure if a decision will be made then. Charges
Cam Hall faces three vehicular manslaughter charges; each carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison. The felony charge of leaving an accident scene has a maximum penalty of five years. Mark Lazinka: Each of the three vehicular manslaughter charges that Lazinka faces carries a maximum penalty of 15 years in prison. The potential penalty increased because investigators determined Lazinka was legally intoxicated at the time of the accident.
[color=darkred]Patrick Orr[/color] * [size=4]The Idaho Statesman | Edition Date: 06-02-2005 [/size]*
*Boise State University football player Cam Hall posted a $20,000 bond Wednesday and left the Ada County Jail hours after he was arraigned on three vehicular manslaughter charges. *
*Hall, 22, is accused of being involved in a May 7 incident that led to the deaths of three Eagle residents. He also is charged with leaving an accident scene. A preliminary hearing in the case has been set for July 21. *
*The other driver charged in the incident, Mark Lazinka, remains in the Ada County Jail on a $150,000 bond on three charges of vehicular manslaughter. Prosecutors say Lazinka and Hall were racing southbound on Idaho 55 at speeds of about 100 mph when Lazinka's truck struck a car driven by Tony Perfect, 23, that was turning north onto the highway from Beacon Light Road. *
*The impact killed Tony Perfect, his wife, Stephanie, and 5-week-old daughter, Zoe Perfect. Lazinka, 45, suffered minor injuries; Hall narrowly missed the Perfects' car and drove away, according to Ada County sheriff's reports. *
*Deputy Ada County Prosecutor Pat Owen said Tony Perfect had to stop his car in the middle of the road to avoid being hit by Hall; Lazinka, following close behind, hit Perfect's car, Owen said. *
*Tests indicate Lazinka's blood alcohol level at the time of the accident was 0.15 percent ââ¬â almost twice the legal limit, Owen said Wednesday. Lazinka told investigators he drank several beers that day while helping another man move furniture, according to court records. *
*Hall turned himself in on an arrest warrant about 1 a.m. Wednesday at the Ada County Jail. He appeared calm and collected during his video arraignment hearing. *
*With Hall's family watching from the courtroom, Owen asked Magistrate Michael Oths to issue a $100,000 bond for Hall. Owen said Hall and Lazinka were engaged in "aggravated reckless conduct" as they raced along Idaho 55. *
*Defense attorney Jon Cox said Hall was not a flight risk and should be released on his own recognizance. *
*Cox said Hall contacted sheriff's deputies and has cooperated fully with investigators. *
*Oths set bond at $20,000, saying he did not see Hall as a flight risk. *
*Hall went to work after the accident. He later called BSU coach Dan Hawkins when he found out about the Perfects' deaths, according to sheriff's reports. *
*Hall told detectives that he saw the accident in his rear-view mirror and thought someone might have been killed. Hall estimated he was driving between 75 and 80 mph, according to testimony at a probable cause hearing Tuesday. *
*Hall said the incident began when he was driving his Mustang south on Idaho 55 shortly before 7:30 p.m. May 7 and came up behind a pickup truck, which would not allow him to pass. *
*Richard Thompson, the passenger in Lazinka's truck during the chase and the accident, said Lazinka told him that he was going to race a Mustang that was trying to pass him, according to testimony at Tuesday's hearing. *
Thompson described the events before the accident as "just two guys racing, having fun, both of them flying," according to records.
2005-06-03 10:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Roxie is Martin's wife. I've explained (several times) that I posted what Martin had written and sent to me and asked me to post. This was copied from the original documents that he was given. I don't have to justify myself to your stupid ass. And it is alleged victim, the charges haven't been proven. Their whole case hinges on the testimony of a mentally retarded child. That's their evidence.[/QUOTE]See, Six-Pack, here you prove why you're just another freak/weirdo who would likely associate with Mad Dog. You know the right thing to do: go back and edit your posts to redact the name of the victim of a heinous sex crime. Be better than Lindstedt!
2005-06-03 11:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]See, Six-Pack, here you prove why you're just another freak/weirdo who would likely associate with Mad Dog. QUOTE]
LOL! Stigmata, you are such a smart aleck. :oh:
2005-06-03 14:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=SteppedInTheCaCa] :dung: See, Six-Pack, here you prove why you're just another freak/weirdo who would likely associate with Mad Dog. You know the right thing to do: go back and edit your posts to redact the name of the victim of a heinous sex crime. Be better than Lindstedt![/QUOTE] And you've proven that, you're just another tool of ZOG throughout this thread and quite possibly a jew with your unprovoked animosity (Genesis 3:15). So it's guilt by association? Isn't that another talmudic concept.
2005-06-03 14:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabbyrail][QUOTE=Stigmata]See, Six-Pack, here you prove why you're just another freak/weirdo who would likely associate with Mad Dog. QUOTE]
LOL! Stigmata, you are such a smart aleck. :oh:[/QUOTE] I think smart-ass is the word you're searching for.
2005-06-06 10:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER][size=4]Martin's Bail of $100,000 is it Justified? [/size][/QUOTE] Yes. Lindstedt might as well get used to his cage. It's where he's going to spend the rest of his useless white trash life.
2005-06-06 12:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Pope Molesto CCLXV]Yes. Lindstedt might as well get used to his cage. It's where he's going to spend the rest of his useless white trash life.[/QUOTE]
Pope Molesto CCLXV = Stigmata II
2005-06-07 00:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Pope Molesto CCLXV]Yes. Lindstedt might as well get used to his cage. It's where he's going to spend the rest of his useless white trash life.[/QUOTE]
Pope Molesto CCLXV = Stigmata = Troll
How many incarnations do you intend to create Stigmata?
:smoke:
2005-06-25 14:48 | User Profile
MARTIN GOT 30 DAYS FOR CONTEMPT OF COURT THE LAST TIME HE WENT. HIS SIDE KICK BEN GOT 5 YEARS FOR THE SAME CHARGE ON THE SAME CHILD. SO IT MIGHT LOOK PRETTY BAD FOR MARTIN.
2005-06-25 14:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]MARTIN GOT 30 DAYS FOR CONTEMPT OF COURT THE LAST TIME HE WENT. HIS SIDE KICK BEN GOT 5 YEARS FOR THE SAME CHARGE ON THE SAME CHILD. SO IT MIGHT LOOK PRETTY BAD FOR MARTIN.[/QUOTE]I WAS WRONG. HE GOT 30 DAYS FOR EACH COUNT OF CONTEMPT. HE WAS GETTING 660 DAYS TOTAL.
2005-06-25 15:13 | User Profile
Can somebody please post Lindstedt's current address? I'd used the one posted on the Phora but obviously it's now inaccessible. Thanks.
2005-06-25 16:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Can somebody please post Lindstedt's current address? I'd used the one posted on the Phora but obviously it's now inaccessible. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Pastor Martin Lindstedt Newton County Jail 208 W. Coler Neosho, MO 64850
2005-06-27 07:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]I WAS WRONG. HE GOT 30 DAYS FOR EACH COUNT OF CONTEMPT. HE WAS GETTING 660 DAYS TOTAL.[/QUOTE] Two years for a 15 minute outburst? :ph34r:
Martin is finding out the "justice" system is no joke.
2005-06-27 07:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Pastor Martin Lindstedt Newton County Jail 208 W. Coler Neosho, MO 64850[/QUOTE]This doesn't sound heroic I'm sure, but Martin right now sounds like a very radioactive commodity.
If someone else besides his jailor would step to forward mail to him, I think he might get some additional correspondance. I like Martin, but not enough to be put on the justice dept's list of his personal nutcase friends, and you know they collect his return addresses and read his mail. :ph34r:
2005-06-27 17:08 | User Profile
Well, Lucky originally asked for stamps and small bills in lieu of 'donations' (for his mail, and commissary candy bars)....but I found out after I'd done that that they are seizing all mail containing stamps (in case you've laced them with LSD, believe it or not) and it's logical to assume five and ten-dollar bills are routinely 'misplaced' by hisd keepers during the screening process.
As for the DOJ watch-list, I'm not too worried. Mail must be return-addressed to a complete name (as opposed to, say, "El Kabong") on the envelope....but all that means is the envelope has to have a full name and a mailing address on it....they don't have to be yours, or even real.
2005-07-16 23:03 | User Profile
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From Staff Reports Martin Lindstedt has filed a third request for a change of judge in his case. On Monday, Lindstedt filed another motion asking Judge Timothy Perigo to "alter, amend, abolish and / or reconsider assignment of Judge [Kevin] Selby to [the] defendant's case." Lindstedt is accused of first degree statutory sodomy. A probable cause statement alleges Lindstedt inappropriately kissed a family member on the child's back, buttocks and groin area sometime between March and August 2003. On July 1, Lindstedt filed a second request asking that Perigo reconsider assigning the case to Selby, alleging a conflict of interest with that judge. On June 29, the Missouri Southern District Court of Appeals ruled against Lindstedt's common-law wife, Roxie Fausnaught, who sought to reverse the removal of her grandchildren from the Granby home she and Lindstedt share in April. According to documents filed in the appeals court, Fausnaught's first attempt to reverse the Division of Family Service's decision was heard by Selby. Also on June 29, Lindstedt filed his first motion asking Perigo reconsider the assignment. His motion asked "this corrupt regime court judge to alter, amend, abolish and / or reconsider corrupt judgment to unlawfully assign Division III Newton County Juvenile Judge Kevin Lee Selby to hear prisoner's case." In an indigency hearing two weeks ago, Lindstedt repeatedly said Selby was unlawfully appointed the judge in the case, adding that he has never been arraigned and that the allegations leveled against him are lies. At one point, Lindstedt referred to Judge Selby and Sheriff Kenneth Copeland as "sub-contractors of Satan." Lindstedt, who has been acting as his own attorney in the case and has appeared in court sporting half of a mustache and beard, was ordered by the court to undergo a mental evaluation. Lindstedt remains in custody on $100,000 bond and was sentenced to 660 days in the county jail three weeks ago for 22 counts of contempt of court. During that court appearance, he was attempting to have a motion request approved to move him out of solitary confinement and into the general inmate population. However, because of repeated outbursts, the court did not act on the motion. A perennial political candidate, Lindstedt has sought a number of local, county and statewide offices over the years as a Libertarian, a member of the Reform Party and as a Republican. He last sought office this April, when he ran for Granby municipal judge and for a seat on the East Newton R-6 School Board. This past summer, Lindstedt filed a lawsuit against former Secretary of State Matt Blunt for refusing to print Lindstedt's nickname of "Mad Dog" on the statewide ballot in 2002 and in 2004, during the Granby resident's bids for U.S. Senate and Missouri governor, respectively. In November, the Missouri Attorney General's office asked that the suit be dismissed "with prejudice," which bars the right to bring or maintain an action on the same claim or cause. An appeal of the suit was struck down by the U.S. District Court, but on Friday Lindstedt filed a handwritten motion asking that the suit be reinstated. Lindstedt has filed, and lost, a number of lawsuits against a variety of people and entities in the past. Among these are a 1996 suit against Missouri Southern State College and the city of Joplin, in which Lindstedt sought $1.3 million from the college and $5 million from the city of Joplin for violation of his civil rights. Also during the mid-1990s, he sued the city of Granby alleging violations of his civil rights in connection with a defective equipment charge. Lindstedt also sued the Missouri Libertarian Party in both state and federal courts for kicking the Granby resident out of the organization, and sued Newton County Clerk Kay Baum over his bid for sheriff in 1996. He has also sued Jasper County Judge Joe Shoeberl for alleged constitutional rights violations. [url="http://www.neoshodailynews.com/articles/2005/07/13/news/news08.txt"]http://www.neoshodailynews.com/articles/2005/07/13/news/news08.txt[/url][size=+1]Lindstedt again asks for change of judge**[/size]
2005-07-16 23:11 | User Profile
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| [size=+1]**Hearing set for Martin Lindstedt**[/size] *From Staff Reports* A preliminary hearing has been set for 1:30 p.m. July 21 for a Granby man accused of first degree statutory sodomy. Martin Lindstedt is scheduled to appear before Judge Kevin Lee Selby in the Associate Circuit Court Division III courtroom. The Granby resident is accused of first degree statutory sodomy. A probable cause statement alleges Lindstedt inappropriately kissed a family member on the child's back, buttocks and groin area sometime between March and August 2003. On July 1, Lindstedt filed another request asking Newton County Division I Judge Timothy Perigo to reconsider assigning the case to Selby because of a conflict of interest with that judge. On June 29, the Missouri Southern District Court of Appeals ruled against Lindstedt's common-law wife, Roxie Fausnaught, who sought to reverse the removal of her grandchildren from the Granby home she and Lindstedt share in April. According to documents filed in the appeals court, Fausnaught's first attempt to reverse the Division of Family Service's decision was heard by Selby. In an indigency hearing two weeks ago, Lindstedt repeatedly said Selby was unlawfully appointed the judge in the case, adding that he has never been arraigned and that the allegations leveled against him are lies. At one point, Lindstedt referred to Judge Selby and Sheriff Kenneth Copeland as "sub-contractors of Satan." Lindstedt, who has been acting as his own attorney in the case and has appeared in court sporting half of a mustache and beard, was ordered by the court to undergo a mental evaluation. Lindstedt remains in custody on $100,000 bond and was sentenced to 660 days in the county jail three weeks ago for 22 counts of contempt of court. During that court appearance, he was attempting to have a motion request approved to move him out of solitary confinement and into the general inmate population. However, because of repeated outbursts, the court did not act on the motion. A perennial political candidate, Lindstedt has sought a number of local, county and statewide offices over the years as a Libertarian, a member of the Reform Party and as a Republican. He last sought office this April, when he ran for Granby municipal judge and for a seat on the East Newton R-6 School Board. This past summer, Lindstedt filed a lawsuit against former Secretary of State Matt Blunt for refusing to print Lindstedt's nickname of "Mad Dog" on the statewide ballot in 2002 and in 2004, during the Granby resident's bids for U.S. Senate and Missouri governor, respectively. In November, the Missouri Attorney General's office asked that the suit be dismissed "with prejudice," which bars the right to bring or maintain an action on the same claim or cause. An appeal of the suit was struck down by the U.S. District Court. Lindstedt has filed, and lost, a number of lawsuits against a variety of people and entities in the past. Among these are a 1996 suit against Missouri Southern State College and the city of Joplin, in which Lindstedt sought $1.3 million from the college and $5 million from the city of Joplin for violation of his civil rights. Also during the mid-1990s, he sued the city of Granby alleging violations of his civil rights in connection with a defective equipment charge. Lindstedt also sued the Missouri Libertarian Party in both state and federal courts for kicking the Granby resident out of the organization, and sued Newton County Clerk Kay Baum over his bid for sheriff in 1996. He has also sued Jasper County Judge Joe Shoeberl for alleged constitutional rights violations. [url="http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=8239"]http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=8239[/url] |
2005-07-16 23:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]This doesn't sound heroic I'm sure, but Martin right now sounds like a very radioactive commodity.
If someone else besides his jailor would step to forward mail to him, I think he might get some additional correspondance. I like Martin, but not enough to be put on the justice dept's list of his personal nutcase friends, and you know they collect his return addresses and read his mail. :ph34r:[/QUOTE]
The guy is a kook!
2005-07-16 23:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]As for the DOJ watch-list, I'm not too worried. Mail must be return-addressed to a complete name (as opposed to, say, "El Kabong") on the envelope....but all that means is the envelope has to have a full name and a mailing address on it....they don't have to be yours, or even real.[/QUOTE]Yep! I just use my given name Phineas Sixkiller, and the address of the local jewday-O house of ill repute. Martin tells me, that it upsets the sow-pig that guards his jail cell, :caiphas: however.
2005-07-16 23:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mountain Mama]I WAS WRONG. HE GOT 30 DAYS FOR EACH COUNT OF CONTEMPT. HE WAS GETTING 660 DAYS TOTAL.[/QUOTE] Which is the longest sentence anyone has received for contempt of court.
2005-07-16 23:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=GabbyNail]The guy is a kook![/QUOTE] You're just a jewday-O Xtian mother hen, but since when is it illegal to be either?
2005-07-18 13:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Which is the longest sentence anyone has received for contempt of court.[/QUOTE]Well deserved too. Any update on Mad Dog's offer to kill himself? IMO it would be his most fitting epitaph.
2005-07-18 13:58 | User Profile
hey six killa..
youre so buisy pointing out other provocateurds and doubles and such..
still..
if i where a mossad jedi, roaming these pages - one of my main edges would be to influence radical elements to use mindstomping drugs like ampethamine "traveling at a high rate of SPEED" sound familiar?
or are you unaware of these connotations and implications you made, 6killa?
:glare:
2005-07-19 05:32 | User Profile
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[size=+1]Lindstedt's case to be reviewed in October[/size] From Staff Reports
Martin Lindstedt will next appear in court in October for a case review.
According to documents posted Wednesday, Lindstedt will appear for a case review before Judge Kevin Lee Selby at 1:30 p.m. Oct. 27.
Lindstedt, 47, of Granby, is accused of first degree statutory sodomy. A probable cause statement alleges Lindstedt inappropriately kissed a family member on the child's back, buttocks and groin area sometime between March and August 2003. A preliminary hearing set for 1:30 p.m. Thursday has been canceled.
On June 30, Selby ordered that Lindstedt undergo a mental examination because of his repeated courtroom outbursts and bizarre behavior. On numerous occasions before Selby, and before Judge Greg Stremel before him, Lindstedt has said that he was never properly arraigned and that the case against him was based on lies and "third rate hearsay."
"But I'll go along with this little circus and I'll accept your little bits of paper," Lindstedt told the court. "I have no doubt that if you send me to the nut house, you will have people who will declare me nuts. But I will not cooperate at all in this regime. I hate this regime," he added.
When he heard he was to undergo a mental examination, Lindstedt asked "How long am I going to be there? Until I hang myself?"
The following day, Lindstedt filed the second of a total of three motions asking Newton County Division I Judge Timothy Perigo to reconsider assigned the case to Selby because of a conflict of interest with that judge.
On June 29, the Missouri Southern District Court of Appeals ruled against Lindstedt's common-law wife, Roxie Fausnaught, who sought to reverse the removal of her grandchildren from the Granby home she and Lindstedt share in April. According to documents filed in the appeals court, Fausnaught's first attempt to reverse the Division of Family Service's decision was heard by Selby.
During the June 29 indigency hearing, Lindstedt referred to Selby and Newton County Sheriff Kenneth Copeland as "the sub-contractors of Satan."
Lindstedt remains in custody on $100,000 bond and was sentenced to 660 days in the county jail three weeks ago for 22 counts of contempt of court. During that court appearance, he was attempting to have a motion request approved to move him out of solitary confinement and into the general inmate population. However, because of repeated outbursts, the court did not act on the motion.
A perennial political candidate, Lindstedt has sought a number of local, county and statewide offices over the years as a Libertarian, a member of the Reform Party and as a Republican. He last sought office this April, when he ran for Granby municipal judge and for a seat on the East Newton R-6 School Board.
This past summer, Lindstedt filed a lawsuit against former Secretary of State Matt Blunt for refusing to print Lindstedt's nickname of "Mad Dog" on the statewide ballot in 2002 and in 2004, during the Granby resident's bids for U.S. Senate and Missouri governor, respectively. In November, the Missouri Attorney General's office asked that the suit be dismissed "with prejudice," which bars the right to bring or maintain an action on the same claim or cause. An appeal of the suit was struck down by the U.S. District Court, although Lindstedt has recently filed another appeal.
Lindstedt has filed, and lost, a number of lawsuits against a variety of people and entities in the past. Among these are a 1996 suit against Missouri Southern State College and the city of Joplin, in which Lindstedt sought $1.3 million from the college and $5 million from the city of Joplin for violation of his civil rights. Also during the mid-1990s, he sued the city of Granby alleging violations of his civil rights in connection with a defective equipment charge.
Lindstedt also sued the Missouri Libertarian Party in both state and federal courts for kicking the Granby resident out of the organization, and sued Newton County Clerk Kay Baum over his bid for sheriff in 1996. He has also sued Jasper County Judge Joe Shoeberl for alleged constitutional rights violations. [center][url="http://www.neoshodailynews.com/articles/2005/07/17/news/news08.txt"]http://www.neoshodailynews.com/articles/2005/07/17/news/news08.txt[/url][/center]
2005-07-19 22:20 | User Profile
hey killan..
youre so buisy pointing out other provocateurds and doubles and such..
still..
if i where a mossad jedi psycho, roaming these pages - one of my main edges would be to influence radical elements to use mindstomping drugs... like ampethamines "traveling at a high rate of SPEED" sound familiar to ya?
or are you unaware of these connotations and implications you made, 6killa?
:huh:
2005-07-19 22:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]hey killan..
youre so buisy pointing out other provocateurds and doubles and such..
still..
if i where a mossad jedi psycho, roaming these pages - one of my main edges would be to influence radical elements to use mindstomping drugs... like ampethamines "traveling at a high rate of SPEED" sound familiar to ya?
or are you unaware of these connotations and implications you made, 6killa?
:huh:
[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, I don't understand Ebonics. :afro:
2005-07-20 00:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]I'm sorry, I don't understand Ebonics. :afro:[/QUOTE] welly funny..
you must be aware that speed is synonimus with amphetamine in the western language since the 60s..
now, your bitchin hot awatar is playing along these lines, is it not?
dont pretend youre unaware of this, big boy. come clean.
how tough is ampethamine you tell us..
what good does the speed crowd do the wn cause?
please elaborate..
and please, it could be done in another thread.. understand, you have some explaining to do..
2005-07-20 00:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]welly funny..
you must be aware that speed is synonimus with amphetamine in the western language since the 60s..
now, [color=red]your bitchin hot awatar is playing along these lines, is it not?[/color]
dont pretend youre unaware of this, big boy. come clean.
how tough is ampethamine you tell us..
what good does the speed crowd do the wn cause?
please elaborate..
and please, it could be done in another thread.. understand, you have some explaining to do..[/QUOTE] Congratulations, you do speak a little English, your grammar and spelling need improvement, however. Actually my Avatar is the symbol of a Phineas Priest, and has nothing to do with speed or meth-amphetamine. As to my signature it has to do with my profession as a commercial aviator. I do travel at a high rate of speed literally. :afro:
2005-07-20 00:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]Well deserved too. Any update on Mad Dog's offer to kill himself? IMO it would be his most fitting epitaph.[/QUOTE] Hello! Raina, you sly little daughter of Lilith.:bag: :caiphas:
2005-07-20 01:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Congratulations, you do speak a little English, your grammar and spelling need improvement, however. Actually my Avatar is the symbol of a Phineas Priest, and has nothing to do with speed or meth-amphetamine. As to my signature it has to do with my profession as a commercial aviator. I do travel at a high rate of speed literally. :afro:[/QUOTE] rrr...
clever, the aviator huh?
and what do you pilot guys think of ampethamines, sir? :wallbash:
your sig does at best have a double meaning to it.. and the aviator biz might be a far fetched diversion..?
how healthy are them drugs, comments?
2005-07-20 02:01 | User Profile
[color=darkred][color=black][QUOTE=Prince Harry][/color][/color][color=black]rrr...[/color]
[color=black]clever, the aviator huh?[/color][color=black][/QUOTE][/color] Just the facts ma'am
[color=darkred][color=black][QUOTE=Prince Harry][/color]and what do you pilot guys think of ampethamines, sir? :wallbash: [/color][color=black][/QUOTE][/color] On a personal note I've never used drugs, I don't even use alcohol or tobacco.
[color=darkred][color=black][QUOTE=Prince Harry][/color]your sig does at best have a double meaning to it.. and the aviator biz might be a far fetched diversion..?[/color][color=black][/QUOTE][/color] So you insist on putting a dualist spin on it?
2005-07-20 02:14 | User Profile
Harry,
If you have something to say, then, go ahead and say it. Quit beating around the bush.
2005-07-20 04:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]what good does the speed crowd do the wn cause?[/QUOTE] Don't know, nor do I care, as I'm Hard-Core Dual-Seedline Christian Identity, and not a so called White Nationalist. I only care about my own (that is other CI), if some wiccan, asatru or odinist wants to be an ice head thats their worry. You sound like a traitor Glenn Millerite from over at VNN.:jester:
2005-07-20 04:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Don't know, nor do I care, as I'm Hard-Core Dual-Seedline Christian Identity, and not a so called White Nationalist. I only care about my own (that is other CI), if some wiccan, asatru or odinist wants to be an ice head thats their worry. You sound like a traitor Glenn Millerite from over at VNN.:jester:[/QUOTE] wery well..
if youre a teetotaller, and are actually advocating this - have you been doing that??
then you must have some good things going for you, and you can be free to travel at what speeds youd like..
2005-07-20 13:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER] A probable cause statement alleges Lindstedt inappropriately kissed a family member on the child's back, buttocks and groin area sometime between March and August 2003. [/QUOTE] And once again demonstrating the sick similarity between Jews and Xians...
[QUOTE] I kissed that girl's inner thighs when she was six days old -- I said, 'Look at those little poulkes.' [/QUOTE]--William H. Ginsburg, Esq.
[url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/ginsburg052498.htm"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/ginsburg052498.htm[/url]
2005-07-20 13:54 | User Profile
You are one pathetic stalker, Stigmata, trying to use nutcases like Lindstedt (or Erik D, aka "White Elite") to make all Christians look bad. Get a life.
Petr
2005-07-21 22:16 | User Profile
A letter from Newton County Jail--1 July, 2005
**Dear Hengist: **
A quick line to you since that evil little bastard Judge Kevin Lee Selby sent me off to the nut house ** to get a "psychiatric evaluation." If I'm not ruled nuts it's back to Newton County jail. If I am ruled ** nuts then its "treatment" which I am not looking forward to. So it's a psycho ward for this enemy ** of the state. **
Last Thursday Selby gave me 660 days for contempt of Kort. He was raving and I was punching ** his buttons. By the way, check out the Wed. June 22nd page at [url="http://www.neoshodailynews.com./"][color=#800080]www.neoshodailynews.com.[/color][/url] ** Save that page to your hard drive. [Comment: the predatory so-and-so's want payment for that ** article] I'll be in today's or topmorrow's Daily Douche and/or Jewplin Glob as well. The Buzzard ** **of the Douche was here today. **
Today I got to see Roxie. I also got 20 minutes of sunshine in the exercise yard. Yesterday, by ** 'accident' the guards gave me some psychotic prisoner's medicine instead of my high blood ** pressure medicine. They gave me the impression that since my old bottle ran out, my new bottle ** was in. Of course, I still think it was just a screw-up common tojails. I managed to puke some ** of it up, but for the next 3 - 8 hours I was first nauseous and dizzy, and then felt drunk. I was ** told that it was because they thought I got hold of another prisoner's crazy pills. But they were ** alarmed that I might sicken or get hurt on their watch. All these people both hate and fear me. ** I wrote another Motion for the Presiding Judge Perigo to remove Selby as my judge for cause ** and included in it a Notice of Appeal and on in forme pauperis affidavit. I mailed it off this ** morning. **
This morning, about 10:00 a.m. the short, fat, sheriff Copeland had me shackled and sent to ** to talk to him. Copeland wanted to whine about if it was 'personal.' I said somewhat because ** he, and his pig Young, arrested me on bogus charges. But mainly I hated him simply because he ** was a mere little evil functionary for an evil regime under Satan's Administration. He doesn't have ** any real character, only a smarmy self-righteousness that most ZOGlings outwardly evince, ** wondering why the world hates them. Copeland then came to his point. Selby was going to ** hold an "Indigency Hearing." If I refused to walk into the Kortroom, like last week, Selby would ** hold the hearing without me and send me to the nut house. So, wouldn't Selby send me to the ** nut house anyway ? I asked. Copeland wouldn't say. But it would be all my fault for not taking ** my screwing "like a man." I said like a sheep, more like it ! **
Midnight ? Friday morning ** 1 July, 2005 **
For the next two hours I prayed and asked YHWH to give me strength. I decided to walk into ** the Kortroom and simply tell it like it is, what Copeland threatened. I made it quite clear what ** Copeland had threatened, that I did not recognize the legitimacy of the Kort or of the regime. ** I refused to sit down. I mentioned that Selby was the very same judge who stole my 4 grandkids ** based upon the same lies by the same therapist. I I made the point that that case was still pending ** before the Missouri Kort of Appeals, therefore Selby had no choice but to rule against me in any ** preliminary hearing or action taken against him. Selby then gloated that the case had already been ** heard and had been dismissed. I knew that, for once, Selby was telling the truth. So I asked, "Why ?" ** I knew that Selby and the rest of the baby-stealers needed a judgement in their favor. But Selby ** wouldn't want to bring attention to himself. Rather Selby offered me a copy of the appellate Kort ** ruling if I asked for it. I said I'd never ask for anything from ZOG or him. I mentioned the events ** of last week when Selby cackled that I'd asked something of him other than getting off the case. ** I mentioned that I had not been arraigned yet. Selby asked if I wanted to be arraigned. I said ** not by him, but that I had told Perigo that I would accept arraignment by Le Page. However, ** thanks to Rule 23.03 of the Missouri Rules of Kort, the time limit to arraignment had passed ** as it was supposed to be done within 10 days of May 11th, the first day of arraignment. ** Selby didn't have any lawful jurisdiction. In fact the case was destroyed by their illegality. ** I also pointed out that I didn't have any case files or papers while the prosecutiom and judge ** had a thick file. All I had was a 3 x 4 inch piece of paper with notes from the 1996 Missouri ** Rules of Kort. Rather unsporting and quite corrupt. **
Selby asked me if I knew why I was there. I replied that it was supposedly an Imdigency Hearing ** so as to force the pubic pretenders to represent me. However they were going to fight much ** harder to not represent me than they ever fought for their poor clients. Selby said it was also a ** competentcy hearing. I responded that Copeland threatened that if I didn't walk into the Kortroom ** I would be taken back to jail, the hearing would be held and I would be sent to the nut house. ** So I walked into Kortroom, the hearing was being held and Selby would still send me to the ** **nut house. No way could I win with a set-up like that. **
**Friday Morning (Tornado warning lifted) **
Selby asked me why I shaved half my beard, I told him it was a sign to a degenerate people ** that they would die for the crimes of their regime criminals. I explained that I was a Pastor of ** Dual-Seedline Christian Identity expounding on our racial and religious beliefs. Obviously I was ** a religious nut. I explained about prion-poisoning, so I was also obviously a terrorist. I made ** them piglice and jewsmedia hate me and fear me some more. Selby placed me in the custody ** of the Missouri Health Care burrocracy. **
So I rode back to jail. Some new pigs wanted to ride back to say that they had ridden with ** some famous criminal. I paced my cell. After supper, around 5:00 p.m. I was given a faxed ** copy of the Missouri Kort of Appeals ruling in In the Interest of H.B. and H.D., Roxie ** Fausnaught Appellent vs. The Newton County Sheriff's Report (indeciperable word). ** The ruling esscentially said that it was all my dault that I didn't have a transcript or write it ** out to suit them. They justified themselfs. They did not mention how they didn't make Selby ** provide the transcript or legal files or how they didn't obey their own laws. But in their opinion ** they kept in it all of Selby's and Dobb's misconduct. I think that the opinion will be published. ** **Download it on the Kort webpage and save it. **
**Send this letter out via Internet and a copy to Roxie and Church HQ. **
I don't know to which nut house I'll be sent or when. What I can take. Who I will get to write. ** Roxie will send you the first six weeks of my jail journal. Copy and send all over. Roxie will ** **be the first person I will write, if I can write.Keep in touch with her every one. **
**Friday Morning 6:00 **
All of us should know by now that what has happened to me and others will continue. ** The regime criminals who support and make up this regime are not supermen--anything but-- ** rather they are small, nasty, petty, evil little men and women who have no great plan other ** than staying in power. Lacking the Big Picture, they do whatever seems right in their own ** eyes that works. They cannot do any thing decisive for either good or evil, but rather must ** make do as they must do, regardless of the consequences. **
This evil little judge, Selby, was going to send me to the nut house regardless of whether ** I went into his Kortroom or not. Don't go into the Kortroom--Selby sends me to the ** nut house. Go into the Kortroom--Selby lets me chew on his ass dome more, and allows me ** to express my my hatred of the criminal regime of his, then he sends me to the nut house. ** All in disregard of what the consequences are to his jailers, or his nut house personnel who ** have to carry out his orders. No more caring than Dumbya Bush or Rumsfeld about the ** **live of the poor jewps sent to die in Iraq. **
I've sent Roxie my jail journal for the first 40 days. I don't know if I'll be sent to the ** nut house today or during the holiday, or after the Fourth of jew-lie. If anyone wants to help ** me, then they will help Roxie, a woman of strong emotional stability and goodness. She ** is my complement, which is why we have stayed together over the years. As soon as I know ** my situation I shall write Roxie and tell her my address and what is going on. And she will ** let you know. **
Unlike the fakir Ghandi, and the Pontifex Maximus Matt Hale, I urge my allies and co- ** religionists to use as much violence as they can. And, if possible, do it in my name. ** Christ did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34-36. Don't worry about ** your enemies, because many of them shall be of your own household. **
See if you can't get Edgar Steele to write an article about me and Pastor Gulett. The more ** fame and notoriety I get, the safer I am. I want to be treated with kid gloves, like Saddam ** **Hussein. I want ZOGlings to be scared that I might die when in their custody. **
Thanks for your support and loyalty. I sent a letter to Mark Martin. Get out the Word and ** keep the Faith. **
**Heil Victory **
**Martin Lindstedt, Pastor/Prisoner **
2005-07-22 00:01 | User Profile
A Letter From Newton County Jail-- June 10, 2005
Tuesday, June 7, 2005 ** afternoon **
**Dear Hengist: **
I got your letter of June 2nd on Monday June 6th. That and Roxie's letter. Over the past two ** weeks only yopu and Roxie have written me--according to the jailers, who are ratrher laz and ** vicious about delivering my mail , or letting me read the stock of paperbacks that Roxie leaves ** me in her visits, or delivering the newspapers, especially on the weekends. Getting mail from ** from suspected seditionists or even 'enjoying' the jewsmedia line of the Sunday 'jewplin Glob' ** is something too good for the likes of me. **
Why, this week, even Lt. Duhring, the burrocrat in charge of running the jail, claimed that "We ** never have allowed the weekend paper to be delivered. Never have, never will." This in response ** to my grievence of Monday, June 6. Of course the Saturday, but not Sunday jewplin Glob was ** delivered, along with the Monday rag, thus making of Lt. Duhring a liar as well as a fool. ** Prisoner writes down his grievences and they are either ignored or answered in part or simply ** lied about. Or some jailer is in charge for the day and I get to recieve the full force of his venom. **
For example the Monday, June 7th, 2005 Grievence du Jewr: Prisoner would like to read the ** paperbacks brought before release to library. There was an agreement with Lt. Duhring that ** 3 paperbacks at a time could be in Prisoner's cell. Now with Lt. Duhring's interpetation and ** jailer's intrepetation, Prsioner isn't getting to read many of his paperbacks. Also no Sunday ** **Joplin Globe. **
**Tuesday evening: **
Now someone of normal mentality would perceive that since I was complaining that I didn't get ** the Sunday jewspaper that I had recieved the Saturday paper, and since saturday is on the ** **weekend that saying 'never' is foolish and an easily caught lie. **
But not piglice, or lawyers, or jailers. They don't need to tell the truth. It doesn't matter if they get ** caught out in a lie. They have power power--and power means never having to say yu're sorry. **
The whole purpose of these 'rules' is to turn basic rights into privileges which can be denied by ** those in power. If I have access to the paperbacks that Roxie provides, then I can read then. ** Better yet, I can after I've read them, put them ouit in the POD A common area during my hour ** out, relieving somewhat the hatred of the criminals out there. Not all of them--the muds and mamzers ** like the mestizo Wheeler and jew Yawk Bosley and whigger Arnold will of course always hate me. ** But the normal whigger prsioners, who merely wish to serve out their time or await trial will be ** somewhat grateful for me helping them relieve their jail time. This also goes for me sliding (?) the ** previous day's paper for them to read. Many prsioners see my name on the paper and know who ** makes their life easier somewhat. If I was interested in determining the good from the evil, I'd see ** who treats others well and those who act evil in their natural habitat. Their 'natural habitat' or home ** **being the jail. **
Wed. afternoon ** June 8, 2005 **
The professional criminal is in fact the symbiote of the piglice--their bread and butter--their very excuse ** for ruling. After all, ZOG pretends to protect the herd animals from criminals, both foreign and domestic. ** Rather the piglice get to rule as the muscle for the regime criminal, to deal harshly with political foes of ** the regime, and to bully, rob, torment and harass the herd animals because they are dealing with private ** criminals. The Bible has no provision for prisons or jails. Nor did the ancient Greeks and Romans. ** A miner crime carried with it a flogging. A major crime was punished by death. Today's mighty Evil ** Empire prefers to torture through taking a man's life one day at a time--a novel punishment meant to ** terroize 'humanely.' Thus am I punished for my contempt of Kort and their criminal regime--by placing ** me incarcerated for weeks, months (years ?) at a time simply because I refuse to go along with their ** railroading. I still haven't been properly arraigned according to their own Rules of Kort, with a copy ** of the charges, the reason for the arrest, the law I am supposed to have violated given to me, then read ** aloud. Much less arraignments for bond or release. Judge Stremel knows that his arrest warrant is based ** on third-hand hearsay--what a pig name Kevin L. Young heard this Division of Family Services 'therapist' ** claim that my grandson Malechi Adam Dienes supposedly said that I kissed his penis, buttocks, stomach ** and back several times between March to August 2003. This after she got him alone in her custody for ** months of 'therapy.' **
Since this is a railroad even by ZOG standards, this same Judge Stremel has panicked whenever called ** to justify the bogus arrest warrant he signed. Thus three times before this homosexual judge, and three ** time me failing to 'co-operate' with being jailed without provision for release throgh a just bond I can ** afford. The charge on the 'Probable Cause' Affidavit, alleged First Degree Child Molestation, under ** 566.067, a class C felony carrying with it a jail term of 7-10 years. Mild Bill Dobbs and Judge Stremel ** upped it to First Degree Sodomy under RSMo 566.063, which is a Class A or B felony carrying with it ** **a minimum of 10 years to life imprisonment. **
Thus they upped the charges, but didn't want me or the general public to know, which is why they didn't ** want a lawful arreignment which would have shown their trickery. **
It is somewhat frightening to face such malice, even from Satan's regime Korts. Yet what can I do about ** it ? And the only answer, as so many others have found out, is simply to endure until the end and trust in ** **YHWH. **
Not that I am leaving it all up to YHWH. I did mail out a 35-page Motion for a change of judge, pointing ** out the illegalities of the current situation, how they smelled even to some criminal regimists, that I relied ** upon 'Leaderless Resistance' cells to avenge me, had a right to bail, and that the charges should be dismissed. ** 35 pages, even in my big sloppy handwriting should cover all items indeed. It should have gotten tjere ** Monday, today is Wednesday. The Newton County ZOG might well just decide to commit another illegality ** of 'due process' #666. **
You might check out this mother of the Revised Statutes of Missouri yourself, the difference between 566.067 ** and 566.062 by going to my web page links at: [url="http://www.whitenationalist.org/lindstedt/linkshtml"][color=#0000ff]http://www.whitenationalist.org/lindstedt/linkshtml[/color][/url] ** When there, go down to 'legal' and click on Revised Statutes of Missouri, then go to the relevant chapter. ** If possible, print the the two out for me as I don't have an up-to-date copy, only from 1994. **
While there, look at Revised Statutes of Missouri, Chapter 210, and see the new Dominic James revisions ** from 2004. There is a requirement, I think it is 210.150 or 210.180 which calls for an investigation of all ** child molestation, for it to be done in 30 days, for a record to be given to the alleged molester, and other ** reforms: all of which was to be done last year, but wasn't. Why ? Because first the grand kids had to be be ** stolen, and if the allegations were unproven, then the kids would have had to be returned. The Newton County ** ZOG didn't want that, so they first stole the grand kids and THEN charged me with their trumped-up charges. ** Of course this is illegal under the new rules, but those those who make the rules violate them to suit themselves. ** If you can,search RSMo (Revised Statutes of Missouri) Chapter 210, probably 210.150 or 210.180 then ** **print and send me a copy as Roxie is not very computer literate, please. **
So what to do about this decline of law, order, civilization. Who's to blame ? Well, the regime criminals are ** primarily to blame. The jews couldn't destroy everything if it wasn't for greedy regime criminals who turned ** **traitor for their personal gain and profit. And yes, they and their spawn must be sent screaming to hell. **
But yet who or what told them that their treason and criminality was not only to be tolerated, but rewarded ? ** The answer is that the herd animals, by their cowardice and stupidity, told them that they could destroy ** **White families and take political prisoners, and declare war against the entire world. **
So, the current situation shall endure until such time as all of ZOG collapses. The herd animals which feed ** the predators must first die by the millions before there can be any change. Never before has any criminal ** regime prospered as much because never before have the herd animals been so prosperous. In this case ** the herd animals were the non-Christian Israelites, who received their birthright--and then wasted it on ** **regime criminals, jews, non-Whites and mamzers. **
I expect that for judge Stremel and Bill Dobbs on June 13th that they shall try to stage their little fake ** preliminary hearing, even though according to their own law I have filed a mation to remove Stremel ** from the case and replace him with a different judge. They have no problem in lying, falsifying the ** official record, or tampering with a public record. The more crooked stuff theu do, the more they have ** **to hide. **
I would recommend people logging in to [url="http://www.neoshoforums.com/"][color=#0000ff]www.neoshoforums.com[/color][/url] to see what is being said locally ** about me. It won't be nice, after all I have been censored and banned from it because of these whiggers. ** But these whiggers, in addition to hating me hate the local piglice and regime criminals as well. Why ? ** Because they wish to be the regime criminals and piglice in charge. **
Also check out the Neosho Daily News of Thursday May 26, 2005 at [url="http://www.neoshodailynews.com./"][color=#800080]http://www.neoshodailynews.com.[/color][/url] ** The article about my my third attempted arraignment may still be archived, if so then save it. The article ** on the front page was as balanced as any jewspaper can be concerning myself. It covered how I had ** been a thorn in the side of the local, state and national ZOG, by my running for governor, U.S. Senate, ** **sheriff and local office and my sundry lawsuits. **
Roxie tells me that Mild Bill Bobbs is going to leave the Newton County Library Board of Directors. ** Perhaps they are scared ................., not only for censoring their library ** computers pro-White, Nationalist, and Christian Identity web pages for "hate/discrimination" but for ** having Mild Bill on the Board. I put up on my web page thaat these were regime criminals worthy of ** extermination root and branch. They protect regime criminals be cause they are some. A lawyer's wife. ** The fat stupid mother of state senator Gary Nadler. Steve Douglas, Neosho pigs and spawn of lawyers. ** And sundry 'Good Ol' Boys' living off the public teat. All regime criminals. All living high off the ZOG hog. ** All enemies of the Resistance and on the side of Satan. **
Wednesday evening ** June 8, 2005 **
So is Newton County particularily vicious ? Well it does have a particularily large portion of what Eric ** Thompson would call "Anglo-mestizos", which means a large proportion of local whiggerdumb is largely ** part 'red-nigger'. All of them 'Cherokee' as opposed to Hacksow or Sh*t-arse from the No Wipe'em ** tribe. But what makes them especially vicous is that they consider theyselfs "Christian.' Christ died for ** they's sins and by Grace are they Saved, so theys' pumping and pimping Grace so that sin may abound. ** Christ to them loves to forgive sin and loves sinners, so the more they sin the more Christ loves them--So ** dig in. The end result is like living in Sodom and Gomorrah. Only in Newton County could I be charged ** with first degree sodomy by a closet homosexual "Chrsitian" judge like Stremel. Mild Bill must have some ** **mighty incriminating pictures of 'Chickenhawk Stremel' to make Stremel play along. **
Nwton and Jasper Counties were for 4 years the #1 counties in the #1 state for meth production. What ** does the rampant growth of meth mean ? It means that there is both a large portion of quasi-White trash ** living on theedge of grinding poverty and desparation and it also means the presence of a hugely corrupt ** police and 'justice' apperatus which squeezes the White trash efficiently. So what happens when Mud ** Regimist and White Revolutionist come into open conflict ? The answer is civil warfare and a sort of war ** to the knife which means no quarter asked and no quarter given. A place where dealing with the Revolutionary rattle snake means cutting off its warning rattle and then whining that there is now no warning given when the fangs descend. **
Thursday Afternoon ** June 9, 2005 **
I left off writing last night when the light got bad and my hand cramped using the last 1 1/2 inch of ** the Golf pencil. I had been in a dither about whether or not to write another Motion to defeat the ** proposed Monday June 13th Preliminary Hearing before the faggot judge Stremel. Stremel would ** pf course defend his bogus arrest warrant and my unlawful imprisonment and get it out of his 'Kort' ** by means of finding enough probable cause exists for a full-fledged trial. These preliminary hearings ** are the justice system's means of getting around a grand-jewry in which a corrupt pubic prostitutor ** can claim to believe anything he pleases when he writes upon 'information' and the preliminary hearing ** is to determine whether or not there is enough evidence or probable cause for the matter to go to ** a jury trial. This in effect is the Missouri System's attempt to get around the fictional protections of ** a Grand Jury. The Federal system from the Bill of Goods contains the fictional protection of a grand ** jury, but it is abused--ask Pastor Gulett and Deacon Scott Thornton ! Stremel and Mild Bill Dobbs ** would of course promply abuse the preliminary hearing process to come to their desired result--of ** holdng a full kangeroo-kort in Newton County. That was something to be avoided. I have nothing ** but contempt for the worthless evil bastards of incompetent prostituting attorneys and public prostitutor's ** case in a nutshell and waive the preliminary hearings. They don't even have to question or cross examine ** but they still have a chance to shut the case down. Yet they don't. Public Defenders/Public Pretenders ** **have sent more people to prison than prostitutors. **
I got 45 minutes of my hour outside my cage when Roxie came to visit me at 9:00 a.m. The Officer ** In Charge (OInC) named Hayes--as stupid and degenerate of an evil whiggerarsehle ever spawned, ** he wrote me up for using a mop strand to hold on my glasses on week 2 in here--claimed that I ** received my books, whin I didn't and then this Defined Turd of Shitten got out the rubber stamp ** and stamped in red ink--would that it was piglice blood-- DENIED. Yes, these evil bastards have ** a DENIED rubber stamp. OF COURSE THEY HAVE A 'DENIED' RUBBER STAMP, ** so that moronic 'Adam Henry' jailers, too stupid to come up with a lie or perversion of jail policies ** can denye prisoner requests and/or grievances. I had asked to see Duhring or Sheriff Ken 'the bagman' ** Copeland to ask why they can't provide me with the paperbacks and weekend newpapers Roxie ** *brought me. Denied ! **
So I asked Fischer if Lt. Duhring had wielded the rubber stamp. No, said Fischer, it was Hayes--he's ** the OInC. "Why am I not surprised," I said. Actually Fischer, a cool-headed, short, stocky White man ** with a sense of humor, is the very best jailer here. I sincerely hope Fischer survives the Great Civil War, ** and would have the Resistance treat him gently. The younger jailers and night jailers are just poor whigger ** trash and idealists who want to get into regime enforcement. They haven't gotten vicious yet. They support ** ZOG and their job is to keep me caged--and they know it. Who ARE dangerous, evil, stupid, and vicious ** are the long-term jailers not smart enough to become pigs who love being jailers and enjoy having power ** they can abuse over others. I am going to rate them by their evil, from top to bottom. **
Lt. Duhring--In charge of the jail's daily operations and the perfect jail burrocrat. Lies like a rug. ** Oily and slick. Akin to Beelzebub, Lieutenant of Satan, or in this case the Sheriff. **
OInC Hayes--the perfect mindless, evil "Adam Henry". I can't think of any prsioner who has anything ** but hatred, fear, and contempt for Hayes. Whenever there is an opportuinity to hurt a prsioner, Hayes ** takes it. Even the other jailer regard Hayes as an "Adam Henry" who stirs up the prsisoners, some of ** them dangerous criminals, for no good reason, and creates a climate where some of their zoo animals ** could kill them in a flash of rage. Most of the prsioners have a history of criminal insanity in which they ** cannot control their sexual urges, hands, or tempers. A smart jailer isn't armed with anything other than ** a radio to close the doors. He is like a tiger trainer who can be killed or maimed by his charges any time. ** A smart jailer regards Hayes as someone who could get him killed because of his cowardly stupidity. ** **Hayes and I hate each other, Hayes is just smart enough to realize that I'm not to be trifled with. **
Jailer Shafer--a smarmy self-righteous fat femnishevik ZOG-whore. This bitch is here to exercise ** power over men. That and to have the sexual attention of men who are unable and predisposed ** not to excercise taste or restraint in their sexual liasons. Many's the time I 've observed this ** pathetic creature, along with others of her ilk, basking in the undivided sexual attentions of the ** caged muds, beaners, and whigger criminals, like a fat pussy cat basking in the sun. Of course, ** with me, the 'attention' she'd receive would not at all be to her liking. And she knows it, so she ** always tries to get in her digs and then run off, hoping I'll slip and commit a 'verbal assault' so ** I can be written up. Nasty, evil, whigger bitch. **
OInC Whitehill--another fat ZOG-whore, but extremely stupid. She and Hayes keep asking me ** what I did to my face. I didn't do anything to my face (you stupid cow !), I am only shaving the ** right side of my face and allowing the left side to grow the past month. "So are you going toshave ** it off?" (Hayes, her moral and intellectual twin, asking at feeding time) "Not until the dread Day of ** the Lord, or the Fay of the Rope, whichever comes first." What a dog-awful dumb female. Like ** Hayes she has written me up in conjunction with Shafer the first week here. I hadn't eaten a certain ** piece of cake for breakfast and put it aside. This provoked Shafer to write me up for three days. ** As I was already in protective lock-down, I recieved three days loss of privileges, which amounted ** **to my not being allowed to purchase candy bars or junk food at the commissary. **
**Thursday evening **
I pointed out that, according to the basic Inmate Rules I was given, there was no mention made ** about 'storing food'. So then these fat ZOG-whores said it was in the "new" rules. I replied I knew ** nothing about these 'new' rules. So they gave me copy--hot off the ink-jet printer--with the new ** parts underlined and printed in red. "See ?" They said. "So ?", I said. "I can't be expected to obey ** **new rules that I knew nothing about nor be lawfully punished after fact ex post facto." **
These two ZOg-whores were not abashed, at least not for long. Shafer said; "As long as you've ** been in jail you should know the rules by now." I said that on April 12, 2005 I was in jail for piglice ** and kouncil-kritter riot and the jail thought I'd be suing them. Besides, how long had they had these ** 'new' rules ? "Two weeks" said Shafer. So, how was I to know know a month ago what the new ** rules were to be be two weeks in the future ? By then Whitehall's 'mind' had long since left the ** conversation. All she knew was the White male prsioner wasn't going to get away with not being ** written up by her fellow ZOG'ette. Shafer changed tack and said I could have been written up for ** 10 days instead of three. I said the issue was the lawfulness of being written up at all, not the lenght. ** **Shafer said my punishment stood and my grievance was ignored. **
However, I think Shafer may have been told not to cause me too much trouble over nothing. But then ** again, maybe not. Shafer confiscated the extre rolls of toilet paper I had. Shafer is vicious. Whitehill is ** **merely stupid and vicious. **
Nigger Douglas--The jail has one affirmative-African hire and is the nigger Douglas. "Uncle Tom" ** Douglas because he cuts the 'bros' no slack. There are 3 - 4 niggers in A-POD, the gold-toothed, ** whigger humping Davis is one of them. But Uncle Tom Douglas is the [D] Ruling whigger's House ** Nigger, who keeps the red neck pecker-woods in line. Heap big nigger, standing 6'3" or so, nearly ** an inch taller than myself. A young buck, not yet gone to nigger fat, in his mid to late 20's. A find ** physical specimen of nigger-dumb. Mutual Geneisi 3:15 hatred at first sight. I've told Douglas that as ** 6th Day 'Mam' it has no soul and is a Beast of the Field. Douglas knows the 'Boss Man' who would ** brew up an epidemic of FAIDS if he could. At our first conversation Douglas said that I called him a ** nigger in my Grievances. I responded that while I thought it, I didn't say it, so he was a liar. I said ** that he was a 'negro.' Douglas's retort was that i was white trash. "White, yes, trash no." I replied. ** **"so, who slinging the racial epithets now?" I asked. **
Douglas, like niggers do, tried to engage me in a staring contest. I didn't dare blink, for the longest ** time I glared into nigger's black and yellow eyes through my cell window. After an eternity the nigger ** eyes turned away from my steel grey eyes. I got the impression that this nigger hadn't been outstared ** before. It came back a few minutes later looking for a rematch. I didn't know for sure if I could ** manage winning a rematch, so I told it that it had lost it's one chance. Didn't it have better things to do ? ** Since then Douglas and I say as little as possible to each other. **
Thurday evening ** approx 9:00 pm **
Beeler--fat, muscular, mindless thug in his mid 20's. Tough because he is so stupid. Extremely slow ** on the uptake. Will laugh out loud when he eventually figures out the point or punch line of a joke. ** Not cunning enough to be vicious like Hayes, Whitehill or Shafer. Extemely tough and brave because ** he is mindless. Formidable in close combat, less so when killing requires thought. I give Beeler a ** **wide berth. **
And then there are the run-of-the-mill sort like Ferrer, a white-haired 40-year-old who would be a ** smart-ass, but not around me. And York, a White male with ambitions of becoming a lawyer, who ** has a solid, though pedestrian mind. They and the rest of the jailers treat me like a dangerous man ** mentally, akin to another Hannibal Lector or Vlad Tepes, or Louis Bean. I am under camer observation ** **in my cell 23 hours a day. Doubtless they have been briefed about me. **
So I could use something to put a bigger scare in them. And I have just the thing. I need you to print ** up my web link to the Felix Dzerzhinsky School of Revolution. I need you to print up the official ** portrait of the Iron Felix, and how he thought, as the very first head of the KGB, that terrorism against ** regime criminals and their spawn was the only way to win. WWFD--What Would Felix Do ? -- Felix ** Dzerzhinsky butchered out 250,000 of the Tzar's criminal regimists and spawn, and secured the ** Russian Revolution. **
So I need a complete printout of the Iron Felix page--picture and historical quotes and all to be read ** and then displayed in my cell as my hero to freak the jailers out. I can think of nothing that will do ** **the job better than my web page(s). **
Breaking news: In today's, June 9th Joplin Globe, on page 4A, there is a story that Judge Perigo is ** looking at my Motion of last week seeking change of judge, OR bond and dismissal and will rule before ** or on June 13th. According to law Perigo must assign a new judge. So their little railroad is derailed ** again. Look for an archive file at: [url="http://www.joplinglobe.com/"][color=#800080]http://www.joplinglobe.com[/color][/url] for Thursday. I wrote a reminder ** **Motion today before I saw the paper. I'll mail it tomorrow. **
On Saturday, June 11th, the Fourth Anniversary of Timothy McVeigh's texecution, I shall fast, ** pray and curse ZOG and ZOGlings. That should freak the jailers out some more ! **
**Send a copy of this letter out to Church HQ in Arkansas, to Roxie, and to Eric Thompson. **
The Golf pencil is dull, my hand is cramped, it's 10:00 pm. on Thursday night and this letter must ** be mailed Friday morning. **
**Martin Lindstedt, Pastor, Junior Grade. **
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