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Thread ID: 18123 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2005-05-06
2005-05-06 20:25 | User Profile
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May 06. 2005 2:56PM
Minister ex-communicates members for not backing Bush
The Associated Press
The minister of a Haywood County Baptist church is telling members of his congregation that if they're Democrats, they either need to find another place of worship or support President Bush.
Already, the Reverend Chan Chandler has ex-communicated nine members of East Waynesville Baptist Church. Another 40 members have left in protest.
During last Sunday's sermon, he acknowledged that church members were upset because he named people, and he says he'll do it again because he has to according to the word of God.
Chandler could not be reached for comment today, but says his actions weren't politically motivated.
One former church member says Chandler told some of the members that if they didn't support George Bush, they needed to resign their positions and get out of the church, or go to the altar, repent and agree to vote for Bush.
A former church treasurer says she's at church to worship God and not the preacher.
(Russ Bowen, WLOS)
2005-05-06 20:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE] Chandler could not be reached for comment today, but says his actions weren't politically motivated.[/QUOTE] Demanding support for a politician is not politically motivated?
2005-05-06 20:53 | User Profile
It's good to hear of a minister who has the backbone and convictions to kick people out of his church. It's sad to hear that anyone would have done this for Bush. The saddest part of this is that he's probably concerned with the direction the country is going, but he's making himself a part of the problem that he sees, not the solution.
2005-05-06 23:54 | User Profile
Happy Hacker, you're more charitable towards this guy than me. I'll say up front that I'm Baptist, and I'm getting sick of the way a lot of Baptists are behaving. The Southern Baptists were nearly destroyed by liberalism, until some preachers had enough gumption to throw the libs out of the seminaries.
You'd think they'd be on the right track after that. But, now, this snake oil salesman, Rick Warren, comes along pushing his PC churchianity, and the Southern Baptists are back in the toilet. So when I see a Baptist preacher acting stupid, I just want to slug him in the mouth.
2005-05-07 00:33 | User Profile
At times, snake handlers like this almost embarrass me to be from the South. What a dispensationalist lunatic.
2005-05-07 00:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel] The minister of a Haywood County Baptist church - acknowledged that church members were upset because he named people, and he says he'll do it again because he has to according to the word of God. [/QUOTE] Chandler is not politically motivated. He is only doing what GOD says to do.
GOD speaks directly to him just like GOD speaks to G. BUSH and Pat Robertson.
Pat Robertson says that God has spoken to him and told him that George W. Bush will be re-elected because he deserves to be.
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2005-05-07 01:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Knute] Chandler is not politically motivated. He is only doing what GOD says to do.
GOD speaks directly to him just like GOD speaks to G. BUSH and Pat Robertson. [/QUOTE] As a non-charismatic Christian, I'm definitely skeptical of those who say God spoke to them. I'm not saying that it never happens. But we have the Bible, and that's our authority. Problem is, people like Benny Hill or Hinn or whatever, claim that God gives them revelations, but much of the time, these "revelations" flat out contradict God's Word the Bible.
2005-05-08 11:19 | User Profile
LOL!
2005-05-08 12:42 | User Profile
Any claims by men that they were spoken to by God should be treated with the same skepticism with which we view those who claim, say, to have been abducted by aliens. That applies to claims made thousands of years ago (including those in the Bible) just as much as to claims made today. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
If Bush really thinks that he was spoken to by God, then he belongs in an insane asylum, not in the Oval Office. But I doubt Bush really believes any such thing. I think he merely views religion as a useful political tool (and it is).
2005-05-11 02:06 | User Profile
This Minister has resigned. He's still deluded and thinks Bush is a man of God.
2005-05-12 01:08 | User Profile
Happy Hacker
[QUOTE]This Minister has resigned. He's still deluded and thinks Bush is a man of God.[/QUOTE]
I cannot stand these deluded Bushites. Sometimes you just want hit them to see if you can knock some sense into them. It is so sad to see to many christian worship Bush.
2005-05-12 04:44 | User Profile
Some of my best friends and some members of my family are Baptists. I have met many fine Baptist preachers, but I have to say that a great many of them are stridently anti-intellectual, poorly read and love to wallow in ignorance.