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Thread ID: 18006 | Posts: 16 | Started: 2005-04-28
2005-04-28 12:25 | User Profile
Texas Men Sue Pope Benedict Over Sex Abuse Letter
Seminary Student Indicted On Child Sex Abuse Charges
HOUSTON -- Three Houston-area men used a letter written by Pope Benedict XVI while he was a cardinal as the basis for a lawsuit against the Catholic Church.
The men claim that they are victims of the church's sex scandal and that a letter written by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger is proof that he conspired to keep claims of sex abuse secret.
In a Houston federal courtroom, the men's attorneys told Judge Lee Rosenthal Tuesday that the now-pope tried to cover up sex crimes against children in the Catholic Church.
"We believe, actually, that the current pope, when he was head of the congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, actually was actively involved in that conspiracy," plaintiffs' attorney Daniel Shea said.
The plaintiffs said when they were 11, 12 and 13 years old, they were molested at St. Francis de Sales in southwest Houston in 1995.
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The alleged victims said their molester was Juan Carlos Patino-Arango, who was studying to become a priest at St. Mary's Seminary on Memorial Drive. They are suing him, the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston and Archbishop Joseph Fiorenza for damages.
The pope was added to the lawsuit earlier this year, before he became pontiff, because of a letter he wrote in May 2001.
The letter to bishops states, "cases of this kind are subject to the pontifical secret."
"The pontifical secret, as far as we can tell, means you don't tell anyone about the case," Shea said.
In a statement to KPRC-TV in Houston, Archbishop Joseph Fiorenza said, "To insinuate that this letter from the Congregation for the Faith is part of a Vatican conspiracy is a total and complete misunderstanding of the purpose of the letter."
A law professor said there are a number of hurdles to suing the pope, most importantly, the fact the U.S. does not allow people to sue a sitting head of state.
"I don't think this is likely to succeed," the professor said.
The archdiocese said there is nothing in the letter that would preclude the church from contacting authorities. Officials said in this case, when the allegations first arose, they immediately expelled the seminary student and contacted Child Protective Services.
Patino-Arango then left the country for Colombia.
In the past year, a grand jury indicted him on child sexual abuse charges. Police hope to bring him back to the United States for trial. [url="http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/4422285/detail.html"]http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/4422285/detail.html[/url]
2005-04-30 04:40 | User Profile
Stigmata, I'm curious...
Is it just the Catholic Church you despise... or all Christians?
:smoke:
2005-04-30 05:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Stigmata, I'm curious...
Is it just the Catholic Church you despise... or all Christians?
:smoke:[/QUOTE]All forms of Christianity (Jew-worship) but the Mother Church seems to be the worst from a white perspective.
2005-04-30 05:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]All forms of Christianity (Jew-worship) but the Mother Church seems to be the worst from a white perspective.[/QUOTE] How do you suggest that we regain our prominence and rebuild our civilization without God?
:D
2005-04-30 05:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]How do you suggest that we regain our prominence and rebuild our civilization without God?
:D[/QUOTE] Where did I say without God?
2005-04-30 06:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]How do you suggest that we regain our prominence and rebuild our civilization without God? [/QUOTE]The question wasn't directed at me, but here are my two cents.
American civilization is very strong in many respects (e.g., its military, medical care). The problem is that it isn't ours anymore.
I don't think religion is the primary cause of the problem, but it's certainly not the solution, either. After all, the vast majority of Americans are Christian. Bush, Cheney, and the other leaders of this nation are Christian (at least they claim to be). Where has that gotten us? It's hard to imagine that things would be much different even if they were all Jewish.
There is no single solution to the problems we face, but there are many goals to shoot for. One is an end to US meddling in the Middle East, particularly the government's kowtowing to the Israeli lobby. Another is the sealing of the border with Mexico. Still another is the restoration of the Constitution and a decentralization of government power. In short, nothing less than a major overhaul of this country will do. I can't be optimistic that it will ever happen.
2005-04-30 07:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]... There is no single solution to the problems we face, but there are many goals to shoot for. One is an end to US meddling in the Middle East, particularly the government's kowtowing to the Israeli lobby. Another is the sealing of the border with Mexico. Still another is the restoration of the Constitution and a decentralization of government power. In short, nothing less than a major overhaul of this country will do. I can't be optimistic that it will ever happen.[/QUOTE] Your points are well taken Angler. However, your suggestions above are responses to symptom issues... not a cure for the disease. The disease is a corrupt government that governs the corrupt society that allowed the corruption in the first place.
It can be argued that the structure of our government is flawed... but this is not the source of our predicament. No government can can manage the affairs of a secularist and materialist population. Our nation succeeded for as long as it did because our White Christian predecessors took advantage of their freedom in an environment of abundance and made this country great. Unfortunately, somewhere down the line from our Founding Fathers... our Brothers and Sisters started forgetting their racial, religious and cultural heritage. This was the "beginning of the end" of our success as a people.
Our main adversaries have tended to dominate every nation that they've slithered into... as a minority. Although they disagree on matters of race and religion, they manage to remain cohesive and unified. The reason for this is quite simple... their religion is as much a social function as it is a matter of faith. When culture and language are included as societal characteristics... this "package" is very tough to beat.
Anyone on this board who is serious about the survival of the White race... better start thinking about social cohesion and unity. Because in the final analysis... its going to take more than a skin fetish to bring our people back from the abyss.
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2005-05-02 07:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm] Our nation succeeded for as long as it did because our White Christian predecessors took advantage of their freedom in an environment of abundance and made this country great. [/QUOTE]Phantasm, could you please put an approximate start and end date for the long period of our nation's success?
2005-05-02 21:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]Phantasm, could you please put an approximate start and end date for the long period of our nation's success?[/QUOTE] Start: The landing on Plymouth Rock. End: The Day we allowed you Jews into our government, schools and media.
Jew Scum...
:caiphas: :thumbd:
2005-05-02 21:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Start: The landing on Plymouth Rock. End: The Day we allowed you Jews into our government, schools and media.
Jew Scum...
:caiphas: :thumbd:[/QUOTE]So at the latest, and just picking one who comes to mind, it must have been all over for our great nation by 1853 when Judah Benjamin became a US Senator.
With all generosity, I'll date the beginning at 1776 with the Declaration, though it was a rather historically curious "nation" at the time (no less so now).
77 years. Not much of a run, was it?
2005-05-02 22:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm] Start: The landing on Plymouth Rock. End: The Day we allowed you Jews into our government, schools and media.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stigmata] **With all generosity, I'll date the beginning at 1776 with the Declaration, .. **
77 years. Not much of a run, was it?[/QUOTE][u]A very short run indeed![/u]
[font=Book Antiqua][color=navy]All sorts of people asked his ( George Washington ) help: [/color][/font]
[font=Book Antiqua][color=navy]... Jonas Phillips, a Philadelphia Jew, protested a Pennsylvania constitutional clause requiring public officials to swear the New Testament was divinely inspired. Fortunately, the new federal Constitution had already adopted a provision: "No religious test or qualification shall ever be annexed to any oath of office . . ."[/color][/font]
[url="http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/articles/conroy_3.html"]http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/articles/conroy_3.html[/url]
[img]http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/images/title.gif[/img]
2005-05-04 13:48 | User Profile
Jews have been strong where christianity has been strong, christianity appears to have been the Trojan horse of judism. But let us not also forget the masons either.
2005-05-04 14:55 | User Profile
[I][B] - "Jews have been strong where christianity has been strong, christianity appears to have been the Trojan horse of judism."[/B][/I]
Sociology for simpletons, that is.
Are you aware how much pagan Roman emperors cuddled Jews (when they were not in an outright rebellion)?
[COLOR=Blue]"[B]The Jews were destined to play no insignificant part in the new state of Cæsar[/B]," says Mommsen (ib.). Even later, when by a decree of Cæsar all religious or political associations (collegia) were forbidden, except those which had existed from very remote times, the same decree permitted the Jews, "our friends and confederates . . . to gather themselves together according to the customs and laws of their forefathers, to bring in their contributions, and to make their common suppers" (Josephus, "Ant." xiv. 10, ç 8; Suetonius, "Cæsar," 42). [B]By these and other edicts of Cæsar the Jewish religion was recognized in the Roman empire as "[I]religio licita[/I][/B]" (Tertullian, "Apologia," xxi.; Schürer, "Gesch." 3d ed., iii. 69)."[/COLOR]
[url]http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=9&letter=C&search=julius[/url]
Things changed when the first Christian ascended to the throne of Rome:
[COLOR=Purple]"[B]After his victory over Licinius, Constantine inaugurated a more and more hostile policy toward the Jews[/B]. It is true that as early as 321 a law was promulgated which made it obligatory for Jews to fill onerous, expensive municipal offices; while on the other hand such Jews as had devoted themselves to the service of their own religion were exempted in 330 from all public services, and those who were already "curiales" were freed from the levying of taxes. In 329, however, the Jews were forbidden to perform the rite of circumcision on slaves or to own Christian slaves; [B]the death penalty was ordained for those who embraced the Jewish faith, as well as for Jews versed in the Law who aided them[/B]. On the other hand, Jewish converts to Christianity were protected against the fanaticism of their former coreligionists. Simultaneously with this an edict was issued forbidding marriages between Jews and Christians, and imposing the death penalty upon any Jew who should transgress this law. Some of these enactments were affirmed in 335. [B]Noteworthy is the hostile language of several of these laws, in which Judaism is spoken of as an ignominious or as a bestial sect ("[I]secta nefaria[/I]" or "[I]feralis[/I]").[/B]
The hostile attitude of the Christianized state, which later became more and more accentuated under Constantine's sons, thus owed its origin to Constantine himself; it is even probable that it was Constantine who renewed the law prohibiting the Jews from entering Jerusalem."[/COLOR]
[url]http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=743&letter=C&search=constantine[/url]
Petr
2005-05-04 15:21 | User Profile
Also, when Renaissance Florence was ruled by neo-pagan Medici dynasty, Jews were having salad days - only to be interrupted by Catholic prophet Savonarola:
[COLOR=Sienna][B]The fate of Tuscan Jewry in the early modern period was inextricably linked to the favor and the fortune of the House of Medici[/B]. Though a Jewish presence was registered in Lucca as early as the ninth century and a network of Jewish banks had spread throughout the region by the mid-fifteenth, [B]the organized Jewish communities of Florence, Siena, Pisa and Livorno were political creations of the Medici rulers[/B].
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[B]In the 1490s, under the Catholic theocracy of Fra Girolamo Savonarola, both the Medici and the Jews were expelled from Florentine territory[/B]. When the Medici returned to power in 1512, the Jewish ban fell into abeyance, until the next expulsion of the Medici in 1527.[/COLOR]
[url]http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/medici.html[/url]
[COLOR=Indigo]"[B]The relaxation of religious ideas brought in Italy a rapprochement between a certain class of Jews and the various classes of society[/B]. First, the humanists, the poets, visited the Jewish scholars, philosophers and physicians.
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And not only the sceptical, even unbelieving faction, of the Hellenists and Latinists, worshipers of Zeus and Aphrodite more than of Jesus, were on good terms with the Jews, but the lord and the bourgeois were likewise. "[I]There are[/I]," says the bishop Maiol, "[I]persons, and often persons of quality, both men and women, who are so foolish and senseless as to take counsel with Jews over their most intimate affairs, to their own detriment. [B]They (the Jews) are seen visiting the houses and palaces of the great ones, the dwellings of officers, councillors, secretaries, gentlemen, both in the city and country[/B][/I]." [/COLOR]
[url]http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/jewish/lazare-anti.html#Chapter%20Five[/url]
You can see how it is not entirely unnatural for neocon Jews to idealize pagan Rome and Renaissance culture at the expense of Christianity...
Petr
2005-05-05 02:22 | User Profile
That is nice and all, but explain why millions of Whites are whoreshipping zion and jews and have embraced religious form of marxism. Gee christianity that univeralist faith where all are eqaul, that made a jew the saviour of the world and his daddy big herbrew yahew the god of Europeans, did not have anything to do with it? Yes the jews and degenerate romans where pals, hell they both crafted catholic religion as there weapon of control. Just like all them christians and jews are cozy right now. Despite falling outs between crooks the jews remain strongest where the jebooites are the strongest.
2005-05-05 03:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]... Things changed when the first Christian ascended to the throne of Rome:
[COLOR=Purple]"[B]After his victory over Licinius, Constantine inaugurated a more and more hostile policy toward the Jews[/B] .... In 329, however, the Jews were forbidden to perform the rite of circumcision on slaves or to own Christian slaves; [B]the death penalty was ordained for those who embraced the Jewish faith, as well as for Jews versed in the Law who aided them[/B]. On the other hand, Jewish converts to Christianity were protected against the fanaticism of their former coreligionists. Simultaneously with this an edict was issued forbidding marriages between Jews and Christians, and imposing the death penalty upon any Jew who should transgress this law. Some of these enactments were affirmed in 335. [B]Noteworthy is the hostile language of several of these laws, in which Judaism is spoken of as an ignominious or as a bestial sect ("[I]secta nefaria[/I]" or "[I]feralis[/I]").[/B]
The hostile attitude of the Christianized state, which later became more and more accentuated under Constantine's sons, thus owed its origin to Constantine himself; it is even probable that it was Constantine who renewed the law prohibiting the Jews from entering Jerusalem."[/COLOR] ...[/QUOTE] Gee Whiz... it doesn't sound as if things went too well for the Jews in Rome after the Christian Constantine came to power. I guess Christianity can't be blamed for being the Trojan Horse of Judaism it this case.
The demon Jews and their agent provocateur surrogates will just have to find another angle. :blow:
Thanks Petr ! :cheers: