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Thread ID: 17839 | Posts: 15 | Started: 2005-04-18
2005-04-18 16:22 | User Profile
By a southern college's newspaper staff.
[url]http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/04/the_daily_missi.php[/url]
I haven't bothered to read the AR comments, which I'm sure cover the issue, but it is highly annoying to see young college journalists who hold fast to the belief that some opinions are just "unacceptable." I mean, for Christ's sake, where's the left in all this? This is what's so pathetic about the would-be journalists in our society: they're not really rebellious lefties (which would be an improvement), they're rigid little corporate enforcers of the political status quo, whatever it may be. Snot-nosed water-bottle-toting expensive-bicycle-riding little pieces of shit with a "Respect Diversity" bumper sticker on their Jetta. They're really into meeting Knight Ridder's profitability targets with colorful little graphs and charts and "expanding reader services" with more Internet interactivity and responding to advertiser concerns with increased marketing data. But no blood, no guts, no cigarettes, no risk, no true nose-thumbing of authority. Everything's gotta be nice and neat, like a Presbyterian service.
2005-04-18 21:12 | User Profile
Yes, things are unravelling at Ole Miss. It's funny to see the liberals there turn this into a black-white issue despite the fact that black & white interests coincide in regard to immigration policy.
2005-04-18 22:09 | User Profile
I wish Jared well in this campaign--it brings to mind Revisionist Bradley Smith's placement of Holo-Skeptical spots in several campus papers in the early '90's:
*Smith Steps Up CODOH Ad Campaign
Bradley Smith, intrepid chairman of the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust (CODOH), attracted nationwide notoriety in late 1991 and early 1992 as a result of his success in placing advertisements calling for open debate on the Holocaust issue in student newspapers at several major universities. After something of a lapse, Smith has recently put new life his CODOH ad campaign. Some highlights:
A syndicated College Press Service (CPS) article about Smith's campus ad campaign appeared September 16 in The Setonian, the student paper of Seton Hall University (South Orange, New Jersey). This short article is based in part on an interview with Smith. Smith's CODOH ad was published in the September 27 issue of the Christian News, a traditionalist Lutheran weekly paper published in Missouri. The text of Smith's ad appeared September 28 as a guest editorial in the Record, student paper of State University of New York (SUNY) at Buffalo. In Ann Arbor, the text of Smith's ad appeared October 6 as a "viewpoint" guest opinion essay in the Michigan Daily, student paper of the University of Michigan. In the same issue, an editorial sharply denounced Smith's piece as irrational and "absurd." A few days later, activists of the "National Women's Rights Organization" held a campus rally to denounce the paper, which they called "a tool of fascists," for publishing Smith's essay, A rather lengthy College Press Service article appeared October 1 in the Northwestern Chronicle of Northwestern University (Evanston, Illinois). The article is based in part on interviews with Bradley Smith and anti-revisionist author Deborah Lipstadt. Smith's CODOH ad appeared in the October 14 issue of the Georgetown Voice of Georgetown University (Washington, DC). Michael Berenbaum, project director of the US Holocaust Memorial Council (which operates the new federal Holocaust Museum), responded to Smith's ad with a guest opinion essay in the paper. Smith's CODOH ad appeared in the October 15 issue of The State News of Michigan State University (East Lansing). Smith's CODOH ad was published October 21 in the Rough Rider, student paper of Roosevelt High School in Portland, Oregon. This is the first publication of the ad in a high school paper. In response to protests from some parents, the school principal confiscated the remaining copies of the issue. Also in Portland, Smith's CODOH ad appeared October 24 in The Oregonian, the state's most influential and largest circulation newspaper. This is the first publication of the CODOH ad in a major metropolitan daily. Smith's CODOH ad was published, in slightly abbreviated form, in the October 26 issue of The Stanford Daily of Stanford University. Accompanying it was an error-ridden and prominently displayed editorial commentary that was highly critical of the ad. Smith's CODOH ad ran in the student newspaper of Ohio University (Athens, Ohio), October 28. Smith's CODOH ad appeared November 2 in The Miami Student of Miami University (Oxford, Ohio).*
[url]http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n6p22_CODOH.html[/url]
2005-04-19 16:10 | User Profile
Still some intelligent life at Free Republic -- thread here:
[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1384944/posts[/url]
2005-04-19 16:12 | User Profile
Link to the inflammatory ad.
[URL=http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050416/NEWS01/504160349/1002]Clarion-Ledger story[/URL]
Link to Clarion-Ledger article about the same incident
Ole Miss student Ronald Odom, who took the ad from New Century via phone, said he saw it before the newspaper was printed, but he didn't read it because he didn't know it was his ad. The ad says American Renaissance.
"It was purely an accident. Our screening should have been tighter," the 21-year old senior journalism major said. "Being an African American, I appreciate the progress the university has made. It has done a great job in improving race relations and morale around campus."
Note: I do not share the views of the American Renaissance Foundation. I just think it is funny that a liberal student newspaper ran this racist ad b/c the paper's slacker staff was too lazy to read their ad copy before sending it to press.
1 posted on 04/16/2005 7:02:59 AM PDT by bourbon [ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]
To: WKB; MagnoliaMS; MississippiMan; vetvetdoug; NerdDad; Rebel Coach; afuturegovernor; mwyounce; ... (((MS PING)))
2 posted on 04/16/2005 7:04:27 AM PDT by bourbon [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon What views are those?
3 posted on 04/16/2005 7:06:59 AM PDT by HighFlier [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon If Jesse Jackson or some other race-baiting black "leader" were to take out a similar ad, pointing out how illegal immigration is destroying black people's political power, would it be considered racist?
4 posted on 04/16/2005 7:13:30 AM PDT by ikka [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon "I just think it is funny that a liberal student newspaper ran this racist ad b/c the paper's slacker staff was too lazy to read their ad copy before sending it to press." .
Hard to look at just the picture without looking for some 'sense' to it; so cannot imagine this was totally ignored.. .
. . .and since diversity IS a Libs favored assumption; would bet that at the least, the first few lines were read; and no 'red flag' went up. . .
5 posted on 04/16/2005 7:13:58 AM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: ikka "If Jesse Jackson or some other race-baiting black "leader" were to take out a similar ad, pointing out how illegal immigration is destroying black people's political power, would it be considered racist?" Dittos!!
6 posted on 04/16/2005 7:18:44 AM PDT by davisfh [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon The authors of this ad expressed themselves very badly...whatever their aims...and they do seem racist. The fact that whites will be a minority in the US one day is simple fact, however, no matter what your point of view is. If we don't manage to blow ourselves to kingdom come, generations from now we'll probably all be brownish/yellow.
7 posted on 04/16/2005 7:19:14 AM PDT by hershey [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: ikka "If Jesse Jackson or some other race-baiting black "leader" were to take out a similar ad, pointing out how illegal immigration is destroying black people's political power, would it be considered racist?" Nope. . .not at all.
..this article is written with Lib buz words; someone probably did read at least a couple of 'first lines' and did not recognize a problem. . .
And of course, the only people to have a problem with anything Jesse does; are simply 'nasty racists'.
8 posted on 04/16/2005 7:19:19 AM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon What's racist about this ad?
9 posted on 04/16/2005 7:20:04 AM PDT by captcall (I won't tolerate rude behavior in a man.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: ikka not doing too well this morning. ..make that 'buzz' words. . . ;^#
10 posted on 04/16/2005 7:20:25 AM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]
To: captcall What's racist about this ad? Daring to suggest that massive non-white immigration might not be an entirely positive thing.
What I wonder about is how many people believe in their heart every word of this ad but would never, ever admit to it.
There are some pretty big elephants in the room that nobody will discuss.
11 posted on 04/16/2005 7:28:21 AM PDT by Drew68 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon Note: I do not share the views of the American Renaissance Foundation. ,b.I just think it is funny that a liberal student newspaper ran this racist ad b/c the paper's slacker staff was too lazy to read their ad copy before sending it to press. This is racist?
Beam me up Scotty. No intelligent life here.
12 posted on 04/16/2005 7:29:00 AM PDT by Khurkris (This tagline is available on CD ROM) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: captcall "What's racist about this ad?"
Nothing!!!! and.......I totally agree with it.
13 posted on 04/16/2005 7:30:10 AM PDT by Wild Bill 10 (USMC viet nam vet.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon Looks like someone was slacking to me. What a ridiculous ad.
14 posted on 04/16/2005 7:31:14 AM PDT by cyborg [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: captcall "What's racist about this ad?"
My question also. This sounds like censorship. When I grew up, using inflammatory words, like the N-word, was considered racist (obviously, inciting violence against minorities is racist also - but that goes without saying). I'm still trying to find the inflammatory or inciteful words in this ad.
I think instead, we are being manipulated into thinking that a debate over immigration is not permitted, since it is, somehow, racist. IT IS NOT. There is nothing wrong with debating immigration (which I happen to support pretty strongly, by the way).
This is exactly what happened in Holland - any discussion of immigration was prohibited, in fact it was often a crime to argue against immigration. Now Theo Van Gogh is dead, assassinated by a "protected" Muslim - and the people of Holland have woken up to see 1,000,000 monsters in their midst.
Things aren't as bad in this country - yet. But if the Dems are allowed to stick to their policy of holding down Hispanics as permanent minority and if we're not careful to keep Muslims out - things will get bad here, also.
15 posted on 04/16/2005 7:34:36 AM PDT by BobL [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies ]
To: hershey The authors of this ad expressed themselves very badly...whatever their aims...and they do seem racist. The fact that whites will be a minority in the US one day is simple fact, however, no matter what your point of view is. If the fact that whites in the US will be a minority one day is a simple fact (which I believe it is), how is pointing out that fact 'racist'?
While the ad's authors could certainly have gotten their message across more clearly, I fail to see anything so explicitly racist or inflammatory in the ad itself. The group (I'm totally unfamiliar with them) may espouse racist views which I would totally disagree with but I just don't see them expressed in this particular ad.
16 posted on 04/16/2005 7:34:42 AM PDT by Bob [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon Whats really stupid is the fact that by the time the little girl in the picture does turn 40, there will be very few pure races left in this country. The latter generations mixed by ethnic heritages: Italians with Irish, Greek with Polish, all sorts of people today can not say with certain that they are pure anything.
The future generations do to different hertiages currently immigrating legally and illegally, will be all sorts of mixed colors and races. Hispanic with white, black with white, asian with hispanic, etc, etc, etc.
My thoughts don't mean I am for forced diversity, but peoples will eventually mix cultures. I'm all for it as long it's an American culture, which is the real problem today with celebrating diversity which means changing Americans culture by force.
17 posted on 04/16/2005 7:38:15 AM PDT by Popman (The American Left: Goose Stepping into the Future) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: ikka If Jesse Jackson or some other race-baiting black "leader" were to take out a similar ad, pointing out how illegal immigration is destroying black people's political power, would it be considered racist?
Jackson Ms. City Councilman Kenny Stokes said he was opposed to annexing the city of Bryam because there was too many "white folks" down there and it would dilute the black vote and they would lose their power. No problem there!!
18 posted on 04/16/2005 7:43:34 AM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]
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To: Drew68 Every race is expected to speak highly of, promote, and be proud of their race and culture.....except whites. When whites do it, it is considered racism. Notice, there are no white "activists", only white racists.
That is just the ugly truth. I cannot be concerned about the future of my race in this country. That is considered racist. Minorities are expected and encouraged to be concerned about their future in this country. That is considered progress.
20 posted on 04/16/2005 8:04:43 AM PDT by L98Fiero [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]
To: WKB To be fair, there was some significant local outrage (black and white) re: Stokes' comments, and rightly so. link
21 posted on 04/16/2005 8:09:01 AM PDT by bourbon [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon I looked for something on that and couldn't find it. I am so glad I have you to keep me in line. :>)
22 posted on 04/16/2005 8:11:17 AM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies ]
To: TerminatorX No thanks. I think I'll pass!
23 posted on 04/16/2005 8:19:01 AM PDT by cyborg [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]
To: TerminatorX TerminatorX Since Apr 16, 2005 Whatever, troll.
24 posted on 04/16/2005 8:21:03 AM PDT by bourbon [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]
To: TerminatorX btw, I really enjoyed your work on Fear of a Black Planet.
25 posted on 04/16/2005 8:21:58 AM PDT by bourbon [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]
To: cyborg You know it's kinda funny we can have a black congressional caucus, NAACP, MALDEF, LA RAZA etc., but it is considered racist for whites to be proud of the fact that they are white. How do you rationalize that?
26 posted on 04/16/2005 8:27:41 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies ]
To: WKB It was pretty hard to find that old article. I had to get creative. :-)
27 posted on 04/16/2005 8:28:31 AM PDT by bourbon [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies ]
To: antisocial I thinks it's silly for anyone to have "pride" in the color of their skin OR their geographic heritage.
I have pride in my brains and my beliefs, not in accidents of birth.
28 posted on 04/16/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by organdonor [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]
To: L98Fiero Every race is expected to speak highly of, promote, and be proud of their race and culture.....except whites. When whites do it, it is considered racism. Notice, there are no white "activists", only white racists. This can be discussed further but to do so risks getting posts pulled and accounts suspended.
Instead it is better to let thoughts boil under the surface, free from debate, until events explode. Just keep repeating the conventional wisdom that every success that has visited those of northern european ethnicity has been borne from the blood and sweat of non-white "minorities" (who make up something like 80% of the world's population).
Every famous white person of history needs to be taught with a disclaimer added such as, "...so-and-so may have accomplished extraordinary things but he was a slave owner!"
Debate is not allowed. Celebration of our history is racist. Diversity is always a positive occurance (just look at the history of the Balkans). To think otherwise makes you a Nazi.
29 posted on 04/16/2005 8:37:00 AM PDT by Drew68 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies ]
To: antisocial There's nothing rational about the groups you listed.
30 posted on 04/16/2005 8:44:42 AM PDT by cyborg [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]
To: antisocial BTW, I don't know what Americans who are black or white have to be proud of beyond the fact that they're AMERICANS. Were it sufficient for people to be just Americans this country would be better off.
31 posted on 04/16/2005 8:49:22 AM PDT by cyborg [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon Melanie Wadkins, advertising manager for the S. Gale Denley Student Media Center, said American Renaissance will be refunded the $220.50 paid for the three-column, 10 inch ad. Wow, the ad ran, yet American Renaissance got their money back. What a deal!
32 posted on 04/16/2005 8:53:36 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Question Liberalism) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Wild Bill 10 I agree as well. I don't think it does anything more than ask a question. Perhaps the problem is that the answer is so obvious it upsets some people's "sensibilities."
33 posted on 04/16/2005 9:06:56 AM PDT by ImpotentRage [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]
To: captcall; Drew68; bourbon I don't find the ad racist.
It's simply the truth baring some unforeseen events.
I just read an interesting article in the Oxford American (how odd right?) about immigration.
They of course are all smiley liberal about how we will all be brown soon enough and since they are self hating whites, they like that idea but here's some facts:
The 4 main states to get the bulk of the Mexican wave since 1990 are not Kali, Tex, or AZ but rather AR, GA, TN, and NC and it is the largest migratory wave into those areas since they were first settled.
I just wonder why it's not racist to applaud the diminishment of the evil "white" gene pool but it is racist to wonder if that's a good thing.
I can also tell the editors at the Mississippian that your average white or black or non-Mexican Hispanic immigrant wonders as well whther the US becoming essentially Nothern Mexico is a good thing. I would even bet that legal Mexicans understand the value of brakes.
But...I won't live to see it. I spent the bulk of my adult life in the third world. I'd like to keep that world there.
34 posted on 04/16/2005 10:27:18 AM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies ]
To: Popman Hispanic is NOT a race for Chrissakes and mixed ethnicity and mixed race is not the same.
And in case anyone missed this little fact.
It's not about group physical characteristics.
It's about culture and assimilation.
Now...how culture is formed by specific shared physical characteristic groups can be argued until whites are a minority here and still no one will have a clear answer.
35 posted on 04/16/2005 10:30:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]
To: captcall What's racist about this ad? Nothing.
36 posted on 04/16/2005 10:35:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies ]
To: organdonor OR their geographic heritage Guess you're not Southern?
;>)
37 posted on 04/16/2005 11:17:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies ]
To: WKB Has Byram escaped the death grip so far?
38 posted on 04/16/2005 11:18:34 AM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]
To: wardaddy Who is responsible for allowing the massive influx of Mexican illegals? Not the average 'non white' legal immigrant that's for sure. It's the fault of the US government run mostly by white people, and now that conservatives are in charge is anything changing? No. Bill Frist just committed political harikari but he's not the only one.
39 posted on 04/16/2005 11:25:53 AM PDT by cyborg [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies ]
To: wardaddy Probably not!
40 posted on 04/16/2005 11:32:28 AM PDT by cyborg [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies ]
To: cyborg "Were it sufficient for people to be just Americans this country would be better off."
AMEN!
Very well said.
41 posted on 04/16/2005 1:04:26 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon "I just think it is funny that a liberal student newspaper ran this racist ad b/c the paper's slacker staff was too lazy to read their ad copy before sending it to press."
Funny...but typical. ;o)
42 posted on 04/16/2005 1:06:36 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon ââ¬ÅIââ¬â¢m very disappointed, and Iââ¬â¢m sorry that it ran because itââ¬â¢s extremely inflammatory and it doesnââ¬â¢t reflect the views of anyone who works here,ââ¬Â Wadkins said. and what exactly does THAT have to to with printing it?
43 posted on 04/16/2005 1:13:00 PM PDT by Libertarian4Bush [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Drew68 Groups like American Renaissance go WAY beyond being critical of illegal immigration.They are akin to the White Citizen's Councils and David Duke neo-Nazi nut case organizations.Their speakers have an anti-Jewish and anti-black bias that goes way beyond conventional conservative philosophy and I hate to see AR and groups of their ilk defended on this forum. Makes us look really bad similiar to those on the Left who try to justify Islamic terrorism by pointing out something"we"did years ago. Wrong,just plain wrong.
44 posted on 04/16/2005 1:16:01 PM PDT by Riverman94610 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]
To: bourbon The ad was certainly not politically correct.
And since the goal of political correctness is to inhibit speech, limit discussion topics, and foist upon everyone an irrational, emotional self-limiting vernacular, then the ad has to go.
"Our diversity is our strength." "We are a multicultural society." And don't you dare question it.
PC über alles!
45 posted on 04/16/2005 1:28:37 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: cyborg Political correctness ha neutered conservatives for the most part.
And the Dems of course long for the day this ad refers to.
So that just leaves racists like me...lol
46 posted on 04/16/2005 2:36:20 PM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies ]
To: organdonor Well some of us have pride in who we are and where we came from. I have great pride in some of my ancestors and their accomplishments. Any Texan worth his salt has great pride in his geographic heritage. That does not preclude one from having pride in other things.
47 posted on 04/16/2005 3:10:41 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies ]
To: cyborg Maybe not but they each promote their GROUP politics and DIVERSITY at the expense of others (whites) with impunity. All I'm saying is that for some reason if whites attempt to do the same it is decried as racism.
48 posted on 04/16/2005 3:15:50 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies ]
To: cyborg Well, if I was from New York maybe I wouldn't be proud of where I was from. However, Texans almost to a man take more pride in being a Texan than in being an American.
49 posted on 04/16/2005 3:20:47 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies ]
To: antisocial "When whites try to do the same it is decried as racism" What you neglect to point out that until quite recently white was the "norm"and, at least where I grew up, anything and everything that mattered in the world,according to parents and teachers,was of European origin.I think many minority groups and their identity politics is a way of compensating-or maybe OVER compensating- for the skewered emphasis from years past. Its a phase that will eventually pass and I think if you ask the average black or Latino kid,racial pride isn't exactly on their priority of Things that Matter.
50 posted on 04/16/2005 3:23:33 PM PDT by Riverman94610 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies ]
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2005-04-19 19:08 | User Profile
Someone should tip Jim Robinson that his posters are defending the AmRen ad. Interesting to read their comments. The "double standard" deal is, for most of us, Step No. 1 in the Great Awakening, i.e., "Hey, it's OK for blacks to have the 'black student association,' but whites can't. Why is that?" Changing demographics strengthens the point: if you're one of two white kids on the bus, it really, really starts to look funny that there can't be a 'white student association.' Mainstream cons always say, well, we wouldn't have those darn white power groups if it weren't the for the left-wing encouragement of minority identity politics. There's something to that.
What's good about the double-standard deal is that it's a fast-moving meme. It creates a wave of "hey yeah's" throughout the whites in the stadium. That's because it's got such simple moral economics. Even little Timmy notices that his sister got ice cream and he didn't.
Question is, how to take whites from noticing this easily-confirmable double standard and moving them on to higher consciousness? Because you can easily get stuck at that level.
2005-04-20 01:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]Still some intelligent life at Free Republic -- thread here:
[url="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1384944/posts"]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1384944/posts[/url][/QUOTE] Where? I read the whole thread and found few sound comments. Scary. Many appear to believe that if you're an American, it is your obligation, or duty, to breed with non-whites. There are even a few comments from FReepers taking pleasure in the notion that whites will be a minority in 2050.
2005-04-20 03:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln] Question is, how to take whites from noticing this easily-confirmable double standard and moving them on to higher consciousness? Because you can easily get stuck at that level.[/QUOTE] A great way is to find a way to make them do just a little innocent step in asserting their white identity and get a violent reaction from minohties or other brainwashed whites. When people see they can't even do such little things without being bashed, they will understand the gravity of the situation and hopefully explore further.
2005-04-20 03:24 | User Profile
In my experience, the most effective means of rousing whites (both American and European) from their somnambulance in regards to the subject of race is explaining that it's an absolute inevitability that whites (or any people) will be displaced and bred out of existence in a multiracial society, regardless of the will of the people. For me, this is the most important matter. Under current circumstances in the United States, the fate of whites is basically already certain unless they separate. Of course, this final point remains unspoken, and whomever I explain this to decides this himself.
2005-04-22 06:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]This is what's so pathetic about the would-be journalists in our society: they're not really rebellious lefties (which would be an improvement), they're rigid little corporate enforcers of the political status quo, whatever it may be. Snot-nosed water-bottle-toting expensive-bicycle-riding little pieces of shit with a "Respect Diversity" bumper sticker on their Jetta. .[/QUOTE]
The Left in America never was really rebellious in the sense that they were truly disloyal to the wishes of their parents. Most of the leaders of the 1960s movement were just good Jewish kids who were doing what their Trotsyite parents and grandparents wanted them to do.
These were red diaper babies. They were good sons and daughters, it's just that we whites have a hard time understanding that their Jewish parents and grandparents - the trusted neighbors our our parents - were out to destroy white Christian society.
And we still don't get that.
There is no contradiction here. Jews are simply advancing their own interests. Young Jews advancing Jewish interests only looks like rebellion to us because we mistakenly think Jews R Us. They're not. They're the enemy.
2005-04-22 07:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Knekkeben]In my experience, the most effective means of rousing whites (both American and European) from their somnambulance in regards to the subject of race is explaining that it's an absolute inevitability that whites (or any people) will be displaced and bred out of existence in a multiracial society, regardless of the will of the people.[/QUOTE]
You want to hear something depressing? A few years ago, my wife and I spent several sessions with a marriage counselor. The counselor was a seemingly highly intelligent, university-educated, quite personable, and intensely beautiful woman of pure Finnish descent, as well as the married mother of several children, yet she regarded my concern for the future of my nation, beyond the actual span of my corporeal existence, as the most peculiar eccentricity - and apparently one she had never encountered before. She just thought it was so odd that I allowed myself to become distracted with ostensibly irrelevant concerns, such as whether the USA would be a strong & healthy society into the decades and centuries to come. When I attempted to justify my concerns by virtue of my being a father, she claimed that once I was dead, the welfare of my offspring would no longer be any of my concern, and the state of the world, and their individual place(s) within it, would be up to them, and thus could no longer be reasonably construed as a legitimate interest of mine. She flatly stated that I should have no concern what-so-ever regarding my son's welfare beyond my days of organic viability here on Earth, and seemed to regard it as rather exasperating and downright odd that I would not immediately see the light with regard to what she clearly imagined to be her utterly impeccable logic. Now [B]THAT** is sad and almost a little terrifying; no wonder we're being gradually removed from the biosphere - its considered eccentric and gauche to desire one's own offspring not be massacred by Third World rioters five years after one's own, natural death!
2005-04-22 14:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]The Left in America never was really rebellious in the sense that they were truly disloyal to the wishes of their parents. Most of the leaders of the 1960s movement were just good Jewish kids who were doing what their Trotsyite parents and grandparents wanted them to do.
These were red diaper babies. They were good sons and daughters, it's just that we whites have a hard time understanding that their Jewish parents and grandparents - the trusted neighbors our our parents - were out to destroy white Christian society.
And we still don't get that.
There is no contradiction here. Jews are simply advancing their own interests. Young Jews advancing Jewish interests only looks like rebellion to us because we mistakenly think Jews R Us. They're not. They're the enemy.[/QUOTE] Very well said...and so very true!
The only thing I can say in the jews defense, as Dr. Kevin MacDonald has said, is the jews may not understand the damage they do to their host society.
2005-04-23 03:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Quote: Originally Posted by Hugh Lincoln This is what's so pathetic about the would-be journalists in our society: they're not really rebellious lefties (which would be an improvement), they're rigid little corporate enforcers of the political status quo, whatever it may be. Snot-nosed water-bottle-toting expensive-bicycle-riding little pieces of shit with a "Respect Diversity" bumper sticker on their Jetta. .[/QUOTE]
From the keyboards of the above mentioned thought police: [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17918[/url]
2005-04-23 07:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]it is highly annoying to see young college journalists who hold fast to the belief that some opinions are just "unacceptable." I mean, for Christ's sake, where's the left in all this? This is what's so pathetic about the would-be journalists in our society: they're not really rebellious lefties (which would be an improvement), they're rigid little corporate enforcers of the political status quo, whatever it may be. Snot-nosed water-bottle-toting expensive-bicycle-riding little pieces of shit with a "Respect Diversity" bumper sticker on their Jetta. They're really into meeting Knight Ridder's profitability targets with colorful little graphs and charts and "expanding reader services" with more Internet interactivity and responding to advertiser concerns with increased marketing data. But no blood, no guts, no cigarettes, no risk, no true nose-thumbing of authority. Everything's gotta be nice and neat, like a Presbyterian service.[/QUOTE]
Beautiful, hilarious, and oh-so true. My only quibble is that you posted it under your own name, when we both know I wrote it.... :biggrin:
2005-04-26 18:22 | User Profile
Thanks.