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Thread ID: 17778 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2005-04-14
2005-04-14 13:55 | User Profile
This has to do with my white pride shirts. Which are not the slightest bit offensive.
[url]http://www.patriotic-flags.com/tshirt/white_pride.htm[/url]
I have used Goto turned Overture turned Overture/Yahoo since early 2001. As Overture gets bigger and bigger, it gets more exspensive anf the editorial process gets longer and longer.
Using Overtures' own tools, it says there are 2600+ searches per month for "white pride" on their network (Yahoo + several smaller search engines). There are also 400+ searches for "white pride world wide" and about another 400-500 per month for about a dozen related searches such as "white pride tshirt," "white pride clothing," ect.
I have attempted to advertise on search word "white pride" twice and Overture had this to say both times.
We are unable to accept this listing because your site promotes a product or service (either on your site or through spawned windows, links, or banner ads) with which Overture does not wish to be associated.
According to the US census, 70% of America is white. Overture/Yahoo must think that it is offensive for 70% of the population to be proud of who they are.
I am advertising on google.com with keyword "white pride." Google is very cavalier with little to no editorial process. In fact Ebay.com abuses the crap out of google and has multiple listings on tens of thousands of keywords. In fact when you type in "white pride," Ebay.com comes up first and my t-shirt ad comes up second. (Ebay is bidding on the term "white pride")
I will be phasing out my advertising on overture and divert my ad dollars to google and more magazine ads.
2005-04-14 23:09 | User Profile
It's not that hard to make silkscreened T-shirts, or even make iron-ons. This was quite the cottage industry in the 70s, in fact every comic book had an ad for "Roach shirts" which were shirts or iron-ons, I never did get it streight, with hippie themes.
WN slogans and symbols tend to work best with a single color on a single color shirt, white on black, white or black on red, etc. Silkscreening white onto a red or black shirt takes two "passes" but the result is beautiful and will sell well.
Your local library or Amazon will have books on how to set up a silkscreen shop, if you have a garage or a spare room in your house you're good, and modern inks are not very smelly. You can get the shirts from your local t-shirt wholesaler for something like $3-$4 each, this is the way your local garage band gets their shirts - you may even find a local silkscreener with the proper political views who will do them, but you're better off learning to do them yourself. One more white with a new valuable skill, and a local printer will like as not cave in quickly if ZOG puts the finger on them. Imagine, printing shirts that say "Equal rights for whites" or the 14 Words, OMG the horror!
This stuff is too much fun to leave to "professionals", it may form the core of a new business too. And once you get used to doing shirts, you can brach out to bumper stickers, signs, etc.
2005-04-15 03:13 | User Profile
When are you going to offer German-themed shirts? Or Spanish or English-themed shirts? After all, there are more Americans of German descent than Irish.
Nothing against the Irish, of course, but I would feel a little silly walking around in a bright green shirt with the words "WHITE PRIDE" emblazoned above a picture of a pretty little four leaf clover. But maybe it's just me. :D
2005-04-15 04:28 | User Profile
Yes, my goal is to eventual have a large line of shirts representing every major European country (Finland, Germany, Russia, Italy, Wales, and so on and so forth)
[QUOTE=Stuka]When are you going to offer German-themed shirts? Or Spanish or English-themed shirts? After all, there are more Americans of German descent than Irish.
Nothing against the Irish, of course, but I would feel a little silly walking around in a bright green shirt with the words "WHITE PRIDE" emblazoned above a picture of a pretty little four leaf clover. But maybe it's just me. :D[/QUOTE]
2005-04-15 04:53 | User Profile
I have been researching silk screening very seriously for the past month. Eventually I want to have a retail store and have a proffesional silk screen rig in the back.
They have silk screen hobby kits for under $1,000 but they leave a lot out. A lot of stuff they don't tell you. A lot they leave out. The hobby presses are some bullshit cause you can't fine tune the angle and position of the screen. Also the shirtboards are a joke, and all your stuff would end up crooked.
For example the hobby kits tell you how you make the screen by shining a bright light out it, with a transparancy in the way. One webpage that sells like $450 kits says to take you artwork to kinkos and have them zerox it onto a transparancy (what a freakin joke). What they don't tell you is that a real silk screen is made starting with exspensive top of the line software using vector graphics, then printed on exspensive vellum paper (not freakin transparancies) with an exspensive high dollar laser printer. That is called the positive. When I made the Irish White Pride shirts they actually fixed up my graphics for me and printed out the positive right in front of me and let me inspect it right there.
Then they take the positive and a screen and stick it in a $1500 - $3000 exposure unit. The exposure unit holds the screen and image under vacuum suction under ideal conditions and has a built in timer. A far cry from the $5 halogen lights you get with the hobby kits. Then a big time silk screen shop may have special screen dryers and screen washing stations.
But anyway. I get a real entry-level professional press for $1200, an entry level professional flash dryer for $500, and an entry-level exposure unit for $1500. Then I would need at least $500 in supplies to get going and a professional level svg graphics program like Adobe Illustrator, Corel Draw, ect. I would go the cheap route and get Macromedia Freehand OEM cheap, which is probably a lot easier to use anyway. (Adobe and Corel are freakin bitch, people spend 4 years in college just to learn how to use them).
If it turned into a major enterprise, I could start supplementing may equipment with used crap off ebay. Although I checked ebay and it looks like a bunch people wanting way to much for a bunch of crap.
[B]Basically I'd need about $4500 to get started.[/B] Maby if I take some of my White Pride shirts to the bank and show them what a fantastic idea it is, they'll overlook my 600 credit score.
[QUOTE=Acorn]It's not that hard to make silkscreened T-shirts, or even make iron-ons. This was quite the cottage industry in the 70s, in fact every comic book had an ad for "Roach shirts" which were shirts or iron-ons, I never did get it streight, with hippie themes.
WN slogans and symbols tend to work best with a single color on a single color shirt, white on black, white or black on red, etc. Silkscreening white onto a red or black shirt takes two "passes" but the result is beautiful and will sell well.
Your local library or Amazon will have books on how to set up a silkscreen shop, if you have a garage or a spare room in your house you're good, and modern inks are not very smelly. You can get the shirts from your local t-shirt wholesaler for something like $3-$4 each, this is the way your local garage band gets their shirts - you may even find a local silkscreener with the proper political views who will do them, but you're better off learning to do them yourself. One more white with a new valuable skill, and a local printer will like as not cave in quickly if ZOG puts the finger on them. Imagine, printing shirts that say "Equal rights for whites" or the 14 Words, OMG the horror!
This stuff is too much fun to leave to "professionals", it may form the core of a new business too. And once you get used to doing shirts, you can brach out to bumper stickers, signs, etc.[/QUOTE]