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The Pope and the Jews

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Stuka [OP]

2005-04-03 15:54 | User Profile

The news channels are inviting prominent Jews to give their opinions on Pope John Paul II and his legacy. Fox did a brief story on how the Pope's death has been accepted in Israel and by Jews around the world. There was a rabbi (:caiphas: ) on Fox just now who praised the Pope for focusing on the "common destiny" of Jews, Christians, and Moslems. (We all know what this means).

I'm sorry, but it pisses me off that Christians aren't allowed to mourn our own in peace and in our own way without some busy-body Jew chiming in. Because apparently, there can't be any world event of significance involving Christians, especially Roman Catholics, without receiving the Jewish stamp of approval. It pisses me off. Even in an event such as this, Jewish sensibilities must take center stage. Unbelievable! :angry:

BTW, I wonder if media outlets will seek comments and guests from the traditional Catholic community, SSPX, Sobran, The Remnant, or The Wanderer?


Walter Yannis

2005-04-03 16:50 | User Profile

[QUOTE]BTW, I wonder if media outlets will seek comments and guests from the traditional Catholic community, SSPX, Sobran, The Remnant, or The Wanderer?[/QUOTE] Don't hold your breath.


albion

2005-04-03 20:17 | User Profile

[font=Arial,Helvetica][color=#ff0000]Israeli leaders eulogize the pope [/color][/font]

[font=Arial][size=2][color=#000080][World News] JERUSALEM, April 3 : Israeli leaders Sunday praised the late Pope John Paul II's role in changing the Catholic Church's attitude towards Jews.

President Moshe Katsav said the pope, "Showed his believers new paths to interfaith reconciliation and brotherhood."

The Jews will remember him for having "put an end to an historic injustice when he officially disavowed the prejudices and accusations ...against the Jews that had multiplied in Catholic Church writings and amongst its believers," Katsav said.Those accusations caused Jews to suffer "from venomous anti-Semitism, persecutions and bloodshed."

Prime Minster Ariel Sharon said the pope "was familiar with the uniqueness of the Jewish People and ...worked for an historic reconciliation ...and for the establishment of diplomatic relations between Israel and the Vatican in late 1993."[/color][/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=2][color=#000080] The pope visited Israel in March 2000 and deposited a letter to God in the Western Wall, the remaining relic of the ancient Jewish Temple, apologizing for "the behavior of those (who) in the course of history have caused those children of yours to suffer."


Stuka

2005-04-03 20:25 | User Profile

[QUOTE=albion][font=Arial,Helvetica][color=#ff0000]Israeli leaders eulogize the pope [/color][/font]

[font=Arial][size=2][color=#000080][World News] JERUSALEM, April 3 : Israeli leaders Sunday praised the late Pope John Paul II's role in changing the Catholic Church's attitude towards Jews.

President Moshe Katsav said the pope, "Showed his believers new paths to interfaith reconciliation and brotherhood."

The Jews will remember him for having "put an end to an historic injustice when he officially disavowed the prejudices and accusations ...against the Jews that had multiplied in Catholic Church writings and amongst its believers," Katsav said.Those accusations caused Jews to suffer "from venomous anti-Semitism, persecutions and bloodshed."

Prime Minster Ariel Sharon said the pope "was familiar with the uniqueness of the Jewish People and ...worked for an historic reconciliation ...and for the establishment of diplomatic relations between Israel and the Vatican in late 1993."[/color][/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=2][color=#000080] The pope visited Israel in March 2000 and deposited a letter to God in the Western Wall, the remaining relic of the ancient Jewish Temple, apologizing for "the behavior of those (who) in the course of history have caused those children of yours to suffer."


Stigmata

2005-04-03 20:32 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Stuka] Jewish sensibilities must take center stage. [/QUOTE]Seeing as it is Jewish interests that the Church serves, the elder brothers in Christ have every right to be thankful:

[size=5][color=#17508d]The Catholic Church's War on Borders[/color][/size]

[QUOTE] The Catholic Church has developed an elaborate theology of immigration since World War II, and along with this an abundance of moral-political prescriptions it promotes to secular governments for dealing with immigration. These norms have been enunciated by the Vatican, and even more energetically by The Catholic Bishops' Conference (NCCB) here in the United States.

The Church has virtually sacralized immigration, proclaiming it as a ''sacrament of unity,'' a process through which the Holy Spirit moves the world toward greater brotherhood. Migration, the Church preaches, witnesses to God's goodness, promotes the unity of the human family, and offers Christians a ministry of love and service to the stranger among us. Human dignity, as the Church defines it, becomes a critical litmus test of the moral legitimacy of national responses to immigration pressures, just as it has been in Church judgments of other population and reproductive policies. The innate dignity of human beings entitles them to seek work in other lands and to be joined by their families there. This prerogative has in recent decades come to take precedence in Church teaching over the rights of nation-states to protect their borders.[/QUOTE][QUOTE] First, the Church, in the very catholicity of its name and in its outlook and mission is universalist. It has never been philosophically comfortable with the modern nation-state with its connotation of exclusion and its claims to be the ultimate community. For the Church, a main reason for the existence of states is to promote the human rights of individuals. Borders are often incompatible with human needs. Suffering this outlook is the biblical and early historical view of the Church as a cosmopolitan, multi-class, multi-cultural community for all. In the words of Paul ''there is no Greek or Jew here, circumcised or uncircumcised, foreigner, Scythian, slave or freeman. Rather, Christ is everything in all of you.'' (Colossians 3 11). [/QUOTE][url="http://www.thesocialcontract.com/cgi-bin/showarticle.pl?articleID=448&terms"]http://www.thesocialcontract.com/cgi-bin/showarticle.pl?articleID=448&terms[/url]=


Howard Campbell, Jr.

2005-04-03 22:45 | User Profile

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Current Working Hypothesis: "The Overt and Covert Organs of the Vatican and British Empires are Locked in Mortal Combat for Control of the World"

[url]http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html[/url]

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For the sake of argument, let's say that with the fall of the Soviets the Vatican was the only major counter-balance in the West to Zionist-Freemasonic Plutocracy...


arkady

2005-04-04 20:13 | User Profile

NPR radio was spouting the same kosher drivel over the weekend. I was starting to think that I'd missed something, and the Pope had actually been a secret jew.


friedrich braun

2005-04-04 20:29 | User Profile

[B]Prime Minster Ariel Sharon said the pope "[COLOR=DarkRed]was familiar with the [B]uniqueness[/B] of the Jewish People[/COLOR][/B]

Gawd...is there a more self-absorbed group?


MadScienceType

2005-04-05 15:12 | User Profile

Gawd...is there a more self-absorbed group?

Doubtful, if there was such a group, it would implode into a singularity.


albion

2005-04-05 16:06 | User Profile

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[size=4]The Judas Iscariot of Our Time[/size]

*[size=3]by Michael A. Hoffman II[/size]*

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