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Thread ID: 17583 | Posts: 31 | Started: 2005-03-31
2005-03-31 15:00 | User Profile
[B][SIZE=5]Schiavo dies 14 days after tube removed Death comes after courts repeatedly ruled against parents[/SIZE][/B]
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2005-03-31 15:51 | User Profile
With all the discussions on this issue over the last few weeks I don't really know what else can be said. I hope it's no secret that I consider this government-sanctioned murder of Mrs. Schiavo a moral wrong and travesty of justice.
We kill millions of babies in the womb each and every year, and now we can add to that those at the end of life not deemed useful or a burden, etc.
God help this country and my prayers go out to the late Mrs. Schiavo's blood relatives. Mr. Schiavo and the others complicit in killing his 'wife' will have to answer to their Maker one day, sooner or later.
2005-03-31 16:15 | User Profile
What are your feelings about Dr Kevorkian being prosecuted and jailed in America for assisting suicides of the terminally ill, yet the government just starved Terri Schiavo to death in what could be called outright murder? The government, yet again, produces another double standard.
Tex, I fear like you, that the government sanctioned killing of Schiavo opens up a dark and ugly chapter in this country's history. Government sanctioned murder is nothing new, such as on a massive scale, like Vietnam and Iraq, but now it's down to the very personal, home grown US citizen.
Didn't God say "vengeance is mine"?
2005-03-31 16:24 | User Profile
Disgusting. There's really nothing more to be said on the issue than that, but I'll do it anyway. Truly this has to be a hallmark of a civilization sliding straight into the crapper that a woman has armed cops stationed around her bed to prevent someone from violating an almighty court order starving/dehydrating her to death by giving her a drink of water.
Mel Gibson has it right.
Itââ¬â¢s nothing more than state-sanctioned murder," Gibson continued.
He was also disturbed that a local Florida judge was given the unquestioned power to sentence Schiavo to death.
"All the big guys, theyââ¬â¢ve got their hands tied by some tinhorn judge down there," he said. "Come on. When they want to whip a judge, they got no problem getting Judge Moore in a heartbeat." Good point Mel!
"Itââ¬â¢s so wrong and I watch it, appalled and stunned, that we have gotten to this."
2005-03-31 16:50 | User Profile
:heart:
Rest in Peace, Terri.
May future American families know more dignity and less cynical exploitation in like circumstances...
2005-03-31 17:07 | User Profile
About time, seeing as it hasn't been human for 15 years. Now the Christian thing to do whould be for the Schindlers to donate the feeeding tube and their supply of foodstuffs for it to help their starving co-religionists in the Sudan.
Next stop...put the decrepit the Jew-loving Pope and Jerry Falwell out of (our) misery.
2005-03-31 17:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]About time, seeing as it hasn't been human for 15 years.[/QUOTE]
Really? Please inform us as to what 'it' was then, if not human?
2005-03-31 17:25 | User Profile
QUOTE=Texas DissidentReally? Please inform us as to what 'it' was then, if not human?[/QUOTE] Apparently a worthless pet the parents kept around for silly sentimental reasons. They should get a dog--it costs less to feed and can intimidate negro burglars.
2005-03-31 18:10 | User Profile
Great Gibson quote, MST.
A terrible sign of just how low our culture has sunk. People like Terri -- people far better off than Terri -- have been killed in this way for nearly twenty years now, and now most Americans think it's acceptible. Anyone who objects is a religious fanatic.
2005-03-31 18:44 | User Profile
[SIZE=7][COLOR=Red]R.I.P.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
2005-03-31 18:48 | User Profile
Add me to the roster of people who are disgusted by this case. Most of my anger is directed at Terri's a--hole "husband," who eventually went on with his life after Terri's accident and didn't seem to give a crap about her anymore except to "make sure her wishes [to die] were fulfilled." Yet I'm also angry at a legal system that allows this happen.
[quote=MadScienceType]Truly this has to be a hallmark of a civilization sliding straight into the crapper that a woman has armed cops stationed around her bed to prevent someone from violating an almighty court order starving/dehydrating her to death by giving her a drink of water. I, too, found that particularly disturbing. It's like an image straight out of a dystopian novel.
It also added just a little bit to my already-substantial hatred for cops. The vast majority of them are conscienceless bastards who care about nothing but their paychecks, their macho egos, their "brother officers," and perhaps their own family members. If a court order were issued to skin Ms. Schiavo alive, you can bet that nary a cop would refuse to do his "duty" pertaining to that task. ("If you don't like the law, then get it changed," they'd say. As if most people have any influence over what the laws are.)
[quote=Stigmata]About time, seeing as it hasn't been human for 15 years. Now the Christian thing to do whould be for the Schindlers to donate the feeeding tube and their supply of foodstuffs for it to help their starving co-religionists in the Sudan. Stigmata, I'm not a Christian either (I'm agnostic), but religion isn't the issue. How would you feel if one of your loved ones were in a position similar to that of Terri Schiavo? Car accidents, strokes, etc., can happen to you, me, your family members, or anyone at all. Would you want a judge to discard your mother or your daughter if she were brain-damaged and confined to bed? Would you think of your family member as just a heap of trash? What if one day you become paralyzed from the neck down, and society decides you're not worthy to live? Is that the kind of dog-eat-dog society you want to live in? You may be young and healthy now, but one day you might change your mind.
2005-03-31 18:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stanley]Great Gibson quote, MST.
A terrible sign of just how low our culture has sunk. People like Terri -- people far better off than Terri -- have been killed in this way for nearly twenty years now, and now most Americans think it's acceptible. Anyone who objects is a religious fanatic.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Gabby posted it on another thread. Credit where credit's due and all...
2005-03-31 19:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]It also added just a little bit to my already-substantial hatred for cops. The vast majority of them are conscienceless bastards who care about nothing but their paychecks, their macho egos, their "brother officers," and perhaps their own family members. If a court order were issued to skin Ms. Schiavo alive, you can bet that nary a cop would refuse to do his "duty" pertaining to that task. ("If you don't like the law, then get it changed," they'd say. As if most people have any influence over what the laws are.) [/QUOTE]
Angler, the cops behavior during the Schiavo case was absolutely sickening. I hate them more than I hate the judges. Spineless robots who are nothing but pussies when it comes to dealing with rampaging negroes and spics but are big macho hard asses when it comes time to dealing with White "law breakers" in the harshest of ways. I understand that the Jewish media has made it hugely difficult for the cops to keep the non-whites in their places, but neither are the cops interested any longer in protecting their fellow racial brothers and sisters and simple target Whites to make their stupid ticket and arrest quotas. They are nothing but ****ing pigs.
2005-03-31 21:04 | User Profile
There's not much to say. 14 days without food or water is 14 days without food or water. Not all the philosophizing or righteous anger on earth is going to make the last two weeks unhappen. RIP.
PS, that [I]is [/I] a great Gibson quote; I hadn't thought of that.
PPS, regarding Kevorkian - a completely different matter. He was [I]contacted by[/I] his 'victims' - who all but pleaded with him to end their suffering and help them die. The govt went after him for that, as if he were a Bad Guy, correct? So that [I]right there [/I] puts him several moral planes above the actors in this sordid drama.
PPPS to Angler: I have no great love for cops, but I can't help but think many of those assigned to this 'detail' have endured a long dark night of the soul themselves. I don't even hate Schiavo, who allowed his spite for his in-laws to guide his hand in terrible ways, because he'll have to live as an OJ-like pariah forevermore. (Nor do I understand why she is still referred to as Terri [I]Schiavo[/I], when she most certainly died as Terri [I]Schindler[/I].) I put this on the judges, who certainly picked a darkly surreal moment to finally decide a husband has some rights after all.
2005-03-31 21:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]PPS, regarding Kevorkian - a completely different matter. He was [I]contacted by[/I] his 'victims' - who all but pleaded with him to end their suffering and help them die. The govt went after him for that, as if he were a Bad Guy, correct? So that [I]right there [/I] puts him several moral planes above the actors in this sordid drama.
PPPS to Angler: I have no great love for cops, but I can't help but think many of those assigned to this 'detail' have endured a long dark night of the soul themselves. I don't even hate Schiavo, who allowed his spite for his in-laws to guide his hand in terrible ways, because he'll have to live as an OJ-like pariah forevermore. (Nor do I understand why she is still referred to as Terri [I]Schiavo[/I], when she most certainly died as Terri [I]Schindler[/I].) I put this on the judges, who certainly picked a darkly surreal moment to finally decide a husband has some rights after all.[/QUOTE]
IR, I agree re Kevorkian. If he's still in jail, he should be released immediately and given an apology. Probably not, since the US is just fine adding one more double standard onto the pile. I would predict that Kevorkian's case is going to reappear in the press soon.
About Mr Schiavo: Is it not interesting and a bit confusing that in this latter-day version of America---where White men, according to our Ministers of Media are nothing but bumbling and clumsy, homosexual, wife-beating-women-hating murderers---that Michael Schiavo was spared any negative media coverage!?! Typically, under the New American Regime, a guy like Mike Schiavo would've already been tending to LeBron Carter's "needs" within the Amerikwan Gulag.
It gets weirder and stranger day by day here.
2005-03-31 21:45 | User Profile
PPPS to Angler: I have no great love for cops, but I can't help but think many of those assigned to this 'detail' have endured a long dark night of the soul themselves.
I used to believe that myself, until I saw the Waco hearings.
2005-03-31 23:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stigmata]Apparently a worthless pet the parents kept around for silly sentimental reasons. They should get a dog--it costs less to feed and can intimidate negro burglars.[/QUOTE]
Dude, you are sick. A life is a life, regardless of the condition. Your total disregard for the passing of Terri Schiavo is disgusting. Why don't you do us all a favor and shut up. :angry:
2005-04-01 01:21 | User Profile
Now the Michael Jackson court case can finally get the media coverage it deserves
2005-04-01 04:53 | User Profile
So many times over the last couple of years... I've condemned my White Nationalist Brothers and Sisters for speaking openly about ââ¬Åthe day of the ropeââ¬Â and another ââ¬Ånight of the long knives.ââ¬Â In my pious condescension, I truly believed that they were being irresponsible for promoting fantasies of violence such as these. But how irresponsible can my fellow White Nationalists be? The White Nationalists speak only in terms of a reckoning... while this unconstitutional government continues to destroy our nation and treat our citizens with total contempt.
This government kills our youngsters with illegal wars abroad while killing our children here at home with drugs and AIDS. And now this abomination of a government won't even protect the life of someone like Terri Schiavo... who was just struggling to survive in a hospital bed. ZOG's economic, social, and political devices have destroyed our civilization's ability to even protect the sanctity of human life... much less prosper as a free and peaceful nation. This should really come as no surprise to us. This illegal government of ours prevents us from properly raising our young... or even maintaining some semblance of dignity among ourselves.
I for one... will spend the rest of my life finding a way to take back our nation. And if at all possible... I will also find a way to bring about a reckoning.
Go with God Terri Schiavo... your suffering is over now.
[QUOTE] [The Declaration Of Independence]... ââ¬ÅWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government...ââ¬Â ...[/QUOTE]
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2005-04-01 08:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]I used to believe that myself, until I saw the Waco hearings.[/QUOTE]
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The image burned into my mind from watching Rules of Engagement is that obnoxious smirking yankee Chuck Schumer grandstanding and sarcastically berating the few survivors that bravely gave their testimony of how our government tortured and incinerated their brothers, sisters and children. I'll never forget that and to this day I can't stomach the sight of Chuckie Schumer. What the folks up there in New Yawk see in that guy I'll never understand.
2005-04-01 10:28 | User Profile
What the folks up there in New Yawk see in that guy I'll never understand.[/QUOTE] Bear in mind that Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton are elected by a bunch of Jews, blacks and white liberals in New York City.
To the point of the thread, Terri's death is another milestone on the slide to the bottom.
Angler, your comments on law enforcement are spot on. If the cops received a court order to throw Terri into a live volcano they'd do it. Just look at the casual brutality inflicted on the Iraqis, none of whom were ever associated with atrocities against Americans.
BTW, when most of these robots come home, they are going to get jobs in domestic law enforcement.
2005-04-01 12:15 | User Profile
I pray for Ms Schiavo's family, this is utterly disgusting what the American Government did...or more rightly didn't do. How could humanity fall so far.
As an Australian I fear our Government won't be far behind in ordering State Sanctioned Murders.
And once again, Mel shows up and gives his view - something I have long since respected. Mel is without a doubt one of the nicest people on the planet.
2005-04-01 12:54 | User Profile
QUOTE=Texas DissidentReally? Please inform us as to what 'it' was then, if not human?[/QUOTE]
Yes reallly. Unless you think flat-lines lie.
Flat-lined, unborn flatlanders rub-a-dub-dub
Lord, put 'em all in Andrea Yates tub
"Human" is all they aren't.
Nothing there in any of them. No loss if they go. They'll tell you.
Welcome to heaven, Bizzaro!. Where those tear-in-the-eye vapid sentimental mutt mullers croon at the moon and bewail liberals enjoying life. Ldt 'em all be Jews to youse.
You make my day, Lord, every time I see one of them dead all the way through, not just in the head, like Terri. 'Cause we know that's what they want to be. They tell you. Everything they roll the dice. Blow 'em away, God.
Note: we have to assume, as WY did in another post, that this was a "chosen" test case. To troll for the unliving, lay out a TV 'snuff'. Your right-wing Catholics, Jesus-fetus entrepreneurs and jew-run media is there for you 24/7.
No, there is more to say. A lot more. You don't move on from nullilty. That's bottom line flat-line flat-lander.
2005-04-01 14:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=kminta]Dude, you are sick. A life is a life, regardless of the condition. Your total disregard for the passing of Terri Schiavo is disgusting. Why don't you do us all a favor and shut up. :angry:[/QUOTE] Not a very Christian sentiment.
2005-04-01 16:32 | User Profile
The image burned into my mind from watching Rules of Engagement is that obnoxious smirking yankee Chuck Schumer grandstanding and sarcastically berating the few survivors that bravely gave their testimony of how our government tortured and incinerated their brothers, sisters and children. I'll never forget that and to this day I can't stomach the sight of Chuckie Schumer. What the folks up there in New Yawk see in that guy I'll never understand.[/QUOTE]
I think the ugly answer is that they see themselves. However, I knew what to expect from a louse like Schumer, but what really grated was the big, brave ATF guys up there proclaiming Christian piety and explaining how the poor, outgunned Federales were only acting in self defense, etc, etc. when they actually fired so much they ran out of ammo. They then prevailed upon the charity of the Davidians to allow a cease-fire, which the Davidians in error granted, perhaps thinking (erroneously) that would buy them some return mercy. They were of course wrong and I don't think anyone in similar circumstances will make that mistake again (and I'm sure the ATF knows it too). These testifying ATF goons knew in their hearts they had outright murdered (if they didn't, then why did crucial evidence "disappear"?) over 80 people and in a final twist of the knife, blamed the vicitims. I've often wondered how many rounds of .223 used that day my taxes paid for and I've been ashamed to be American since then, and unfortunately, it hasn't gotten any better.
But with the Schiavo case, I too feel like we've hit bottom. Actually, no, we hit bottom a long time ago, now we're frantically digging into bedrock.
2005-04-01 17:46 | User Profile
The image burned into my mind from watching Rules of Engagement is that obnoxious smirking yankee Chuck Schumer grandstanding and sarcastically berating the few survivors that bravely gave their testimony of how our government tortured and incinerated their brothers, sisters and children. I'll never forget that and to this day I can't stomach the sight of Chuckie Schumer. What the folks up there in New Yawk see in that guy I'll never understand.[/QUOTE]
Sometime last year I was in a rental car, waiting on the light to change at the intersection of M and Wisconsin. Among all the purty Georgetown freshmen coming down Wisconsin to cross the street was the smug, hook-nosed face of Chuckie Schumer. I watched the bastige cross right in front of my hood, racing the engine and imagining that the hump-backed freak quickened his pace after sighting mirror shades and a grim face behind the windshield of the mid-size American sedan.
Haven't had an adrenaline rush like that in quite some time. I like to think that it was really quite a struggle to keep my foot pressing down firmly on the brake. Ah, just for a little less self control...
2005-04-02 00:02 | User Profile
Poor woman. Honest euthanasia once her fate was decided would have been a thousand times more humane for her than a slow death of dehydration.
You kind of have to appreciate the irony of her situation though: she became a vegetable due to a bulimia-induced heart attack, and then she dies countless years later from being denied the very food and water she was so unappreciative of earlier. It's not right, but it kind of takes the sting out of it.
2005-04-02 00:32 | User Profile
The image burned into my mind from watching Rules of Engagement is that obnoxious smirking yankee Chuck Schumer grandstanding and sarcastically berating the few survivors that bravely gave their testimony of how our government tortured and incinerated their brothers, sisters and children. I'll never forget that and to this day I can't stomach the sight of Chuckie Schumer. What the folks up there in New Yawk see in that guy I'll never understand.[/QUOTE] He's a jew. There are a lot of jews in NY. They vote for there own kind, which they claim is evil - when White people do it. But just tell me one thing: who is worse, the grinning, arrogant scumbag Schumer or the grinning arrogant asshole that comes from your state and now infests the White House? You know who I mean, the one who wants to bring every Mexican north of Panama to this once great nation because it will make his sweetheart, Vinnie The Fox, happy.
2005-04-02 00:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OPERA96]He's a jew. There are a lot of jews in NY. They vote for there own kind, which they claim is evil - when White people do it. But just tell me one thing: who is worse, the grinning, arrogant scumbag Schumer or the grinning arrogant asshole that comes from your state and now infests the White House? [/QUOTE]
He might have come out of the governorship of Texas (and I still blame Clayton "just lay back and enjoy it" Williams for that misfortune), but without a doubt Presidente Jorge is a native-born Connecticut Yankee in flesh, blood, heart and soul.
2005-04-02 03:23 | User Profile
The image burned into my mind from watching Rules of Engagement is that obnoxious smirking yankee Chuck Schumer grandstanding and sarcastically berating the few survivors that bravely gave their testimony of how our government tortured and incinerated their brothers, sisters and children. I'll never forget that and to this day I can't stomach the sight of Chuckie Schumer. What the folks up there in New Yawk see in that guy I'll never understand.[/QUOTE] That burned me up, too. But there are uplifting parts of that video as well, such as the slow-motion clip of the government thug on the roof of the complex taking a bullet from a Davidian gun -- that made me cheer. I also love the part soon after that where the BATF faggots are shown backing away with their hands in the air, dragging the miserable carcasses of their wounded and dead fellows with them. In hindsight, the Davidians should have mowed down those pigs as the latter retreated. But at least the next group of people who choose to make a last stand will know better than to show quarter to government thugs.
2005-04-02 04:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Drakmal]You kind of have to appreciate the irony of her situation though: she became a vegetable due to a bulimia-induced heart attack, and then she dies countless years later from being denied the very food and water she was so unappreciative of earlier. It's not right, but it kind of takes the sting out of it.[/QUOTE] This bulima myth of course is one of the stories her backers contest, in complex case. Substitute strangulation.
Now with her gone and no court to resolve it, rumours of her case will linger on forever, like with Lizzie Borden.