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Thread ID: 17580 | Posts: 6 | Started: 2005-03-31
2005-03-31 02:59 | User Profile
[font=Tahoma][url="http://tinyurl.com/674v7"]WWII-era Jewish land in Poland now said to be worth $30 billion[/url]
By Amiram Barkat
The Jewish property left in Poland on the eve of World War II is today worth more than $30 billion, according to a comprehensive report drawn up at the request of the Israeli government. The estimate does not include communal buildings and facilities held by the various Jewish communities in different parts of Poland. The report was drawn up by experts from the government, the business sector and non-profit and non-governmental organizations.
Some 10 percent of Poland's population was Jewish before the Holocaust.
The report relates not only to the value of the property but also to its legal status, and proposes to the government how to proceed. It will be discussed at the upcoming meeting of the ministerial committee on returning Jewish property.
The Foreign Ministry is opposed to explicit government intervention in returning Jewish property in eastern Europe, saying it could affect ties with these countries, particularly with Poland.
The government approved a proposal by Diaspora Affairs Minister Natan Sharansky at the end of 2003 to set up under his leadership a ministerial committee on the subject. A steering committee, headed by Sharansky's adviser on Jewish property affairs, subsequently heard historians, legal experts and representatives of Jewish organizations, and examined archival material in various places including Yad Vashem and Poland.
According to a source close to the committee, many of the Polish Jews were very wealthy.
"They controlled the oil and textile industries, and held expensive properties, many of which are now in the downtown areas of the cities," the source said.
The Hebrew daily Maariv reported yesterday that the Polish government had proposed a new draft law permitting heirs to receive 15 percent of the worth of their property. Sources said it was unlikely that the law would be approved, and that the sum was insufficient, but expressed satisfaction that such a precedent had been set.
Since 90 percent of Polish Jewry perished in the Holocaust, it was unlikely that there would be many heirs, they said, and therefore a joint Jewish body should be set up and recognized as representing the Jewish people, as had been done in Germany.
Foreign Ministry sources say that the issue of returning property is a very sensitive one in Polish society today, and should be handled by Jewish organizations rather than the Israeli government.
There is a great deal of tension over German demands for possible restitution for German citizens who were forced to leave Poland, they say. However, the former Israeli ambassador to Poland, Shevah Weiss, said yesterday that there was a strong moral responsibility to return the property to the Jews of Poland.
"I don't believe the Poles will break off diplomatic relations over this moral issue," he said, "particularly in light of the fact that [color=DeepSkyBlue]the elite[/color] in Poland certainly has an awareness of the issue and the readiness to make amends."
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[/font][font=Tahoma]**[url="http://tinyurl.com/53bpb"]Source: Only U.S. can help on Polish property[/url]**
By Amiram Barkat
Only intervention by the U.S. government can effect a breakthrough on the issue of restitution of Jewish property in Poland, political sources said yesterday, in response to a report on Polish Jewish property that was prepared for the ministerial committee for restitution of Jewish assets. The report, first reported in Haaretz yesterday, states that assets stolen from Polish Jews in World War II are valued at more than $30 billion. However, the editors of the report said, only a small fraction of owners of the assets are likely to be found, since more than 90 percent of Polish Jewry was murdered in the Holocaust.
Political sources in Jerusalem said the Israeli government does not have the ability to influence Poland effectively, and that trying to do so would damage ties with the country.
Rivka Kanarek, media advisor to Minister Natan Sharansky who heads the committee, said that the report has not yet been submitted to the committee, and that no government forum has yet defined its policy regarding restitution of the assets of Polish Jews.
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2005-03-31 04:16 | User Profile
I wonder how far the Jews would like to go back in world history in order to claim anything, anyone knows if Adan and Eve were Jews? that way those people could claim the whole world for their own....... wait a minute, that's exactly what they are trying to do anyway.
If anyone has a "right" to claim anything it would be the American Natives for all the land stolen from them by the whites.
Also the Mexicans for their stolen lands, but of course the Mexican are now getting back their property.
Juan Ponce de Leon was the first white man to step on US land (Florida) I wonder if that would give me the right to claim anything as his 16 great grandson.
2005-03-31 04:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]I wonder how far the Jews would like to go back in world history in order to claim anything, anyone knows if Adan and Eve were Jews? Nothing about the Jews would surprise me at this point. Like the Negro, the Asian, and the "Hispanic," the Jew has been emboldened, and it will be his (and their) undoing.
2005-03-31 06:36 | User Profile
If the Polish government passes laws allowing restitution for seized property, then the Jews who qualify have as much right as anyone else to apply for it. If they use the US government to force a shakedown as they did to the Swiss, then the Poles have every right to tell them to go to Hell.
2005-03-31 09:25 | User Profile
[color=black]Once again the Jews prove to be a money grabbing group - something that they should copyright. Should I go and claim some land in [/color]<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />
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[color=black]If a Jew could sell his mother he would. It was probably in the original Talmud script.
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[color=black]They don't worship God, but acknowledge him only by name; they worship the dollar and Satan, their true father!
2005-03-31 11:12 | User Profile
[font=Tahoma]Since 90 percent of Polish Jewry perished in the Holocaust, it was unlikely that there would be many heirs, they said, and therefore a joint Jewish body should be set up and recognized as representing the Jewish people, as had been done in Germany. [/font] [font=Tahoma][/font] [font=Tahoma]> The Jewish property left in Poland on the eve of World War II is today worth more than $30 billion, according to a comprehensive report drawn up at the request of the Israeli government. [/font] [font=Tahoma][/font] [font=Tahoma]And these people wonder why they're so despised?[/font] [font=Tahoma][/font][font=Tahoma][/font] [font=Tahoma]They really do just keep stirring the pot. If I were a Jew, I'd integrate into white, Christian society as quickly and as best as I could.[/font]