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Centinel [OP]

2005-03-21 22:39 | User Profile

From The Washington Times: [url]http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050320-101809-2477r.htm[/url]

ACLU to keep tabs on protest

By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published March 21, 2005

The American Civil Liberties Union has warned the 950 volunteers expected to take part next month in an Arizona border vigil against illegal immigration that it is assigning monitors to ensure none of the aliens are abused.

The warning came in the wake of meetings last week by five senators from Mexico's three political parties, who voiced their concerns to Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard, U.S. Attorney Paul Charlton, state legislators, civic leaders and the Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

"We're very worried about it," Sen. Sadot Sanchez Carreno of the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) and chairman of the Mexican Senate's human rights committee, told reporters in Phoenix.

In the days following the meetings, Mexico filed a diplomatic note with the United States asking for assurances the volunteers, who begin their monthlong vigil April 1 as members of the "Minuteman Project," do not abuse Mexicans caught illegally entering the United States.

Geronimo Gutierrez, undersecretary for North American affairs at Mexico's Foreign Ministry, wrote that actions by the volunteers "could be in violation of federal and state laws to the detriment of Mexican citizens," adding that Mexico did not want "the rights of its citizens transgressed."

Meanwhile, the ACLU of Arizona announced it was training legal observers to follow and document the activities of the Minuteman volunteers.

"The purpose of legal observers is to deter abuses, document the actions of these individuals and highlight the real tragedies that occur along the border," ACLU spokesman Ray Ybarra said. "Perhaps someday, we will live in a society where no human being will have to face death and hatred in pursuit of work that this country requires."

Mr. Ybarra also said the organization will have lawyers on standby ready to file civil cases against the volunteers, who he described as "vigilantes" who will "attempt to take out their frustrations on a group of individuals who are simply in search of a better life."

He said they could "come to our state as 'vigilantes' and end up leaving as 'defendants.' "

James Gilchrist, a California accountant who organized the Minuteman Project, said the volunteers will be posted at 200-yard intervals a mile inside the border to observe illegal aliens coming into this country and report them to the U.S. Border Patrol, but will not confront them.

"We are American citizens who want to freely assemble under the First Amendment to express our displeasure with federal, state and local appointees who have been charged with U.S. immigration laws and have left us wide open for another terrorist attack," Mr. Gilchrist said.

Mr. Charlton, according to spokeswoman Sandy Raynor, told the Mexican lawmakers U.S. authorities also would monitor the volunteers and that "anyone who violates anyone else's civil rights within the United States will have to face punishment."

Steve Wilson, spokesman for Mr. Goddard, said the attorney general told the legislators he had little jurisdiction over U.S. immigration laws or possible civil rights violations, but his office would seek to ensure no violence was aimed at the aliens or the volunteers.


mwdallas

2005-03-21 22:45 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Meanwhile, the ACLU of Arizona announced it was training legal observers to follow and document the activities of the Minuteman volunteers. [/QUOTE] I'd like to see the volunteers camp out in the yards of these ACLU "legal observers" to test the sincerity of their open-borders stance.


Blond Knight

2005-03-22 03:14 | User Profile

Remember, the Minuteman volunteers are just "Undocumented Border Patrol Agents."


Franco

2005-03-22 04:17 | User Profile

Need I remind anybody about who runs the ACLU?



Okiereddust

2005-03-22 04:34 | User Profile

[QUOTE=mwdallas]I'd like to see the volunteers camp out in the yards of these ACLU "legal observers" to test the sincerity of their open-borders stance.[/QUOTE]The ACLU is really pretty much a Jewish-led organization. I suspect the ADL is really orchestrating alot of this.

Too bad they couldn't show the same dedication around the world. Send em to Israel, and sic them against the IDF. (Well they wouldn't last long, but isn't it the thought that counts?).


Robert

2005-03-25 14:39 | User Profile

In time of war, poor commanders are sometimes shot by their own men. The commanding officer's death might be attributed to enemy fire or even "friendly" fire I suppose.

Man, I'm telling you, I sure hope this doesn't happen to any of the ACLU monitors.


Snouter

2005-03-26 08:32 | User Profile

Something has to be done about the ACLU's control of the court system and its influence in the media. They recently managed to get a piece of garbage commentary in the local newspaper in my town which is already left wing dominated. Pat Robertson set up the ACLJ to combat the ACLU, but it is not doing the job.


Centinel

2005-03-26 08:36 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Snouter]Something has to be done about the ACLU's control of the court system and its influence in the media. They recently managed to get a piece of garbage commentary in the local newspaper in my town which is already left wing dominated. Pat Robertson set up the ACLJ to combat the ACLU, but it is not doing the job.[/QUOTE]

The ACLJ only litigates on issues of importance to the religious right...stuff like religious displays on public property, etc. while ignoring stuff like immigration and gun rights. [url=http://www.immigrationcontrol.com]Americans for Immigration Control[/url], a 501(c)(4) lobbying organization, is the best bet for your anti-immigration dollar.


starr

2005-03-26 08:59 | User Profile

I hope the minutemen know exactly what they are doing and watch themselves very carefully in everything they do. The crazy kikes and extreme lefty liberals at the ACLU are going to be looking for anything to use against these people. And the ACLU is certainly good at what they do. [QUOTE] Mr. Ybarra also said the organization will have lawyers on standby ready to file civil cases against the volunteers, **who he described as "vigilantes" who will "attempt to take out their frustrations on a group of individuals who are simply in search of a better life." ** [/QUOTE]Give me a break. these people make me want to puke.


Snouter

2005-03-26 09:06 | User Profile

The filthy invaders are simply looking to take advantage of US taxpayers and property owners. There is nothing stopping the invaders from cleaning up the sesspools they come from except lower IQ's and other negative inherited characteristics of their demographics.

The Americans for Immigration Control site gives my Congressman mixed reviews which is not bad for a liberal leaning republican. Fortunately he defeated a L'Teeno female in 2002, and defeated another liberal female last November so things could be worse.


Howard Campbell, Jr.

2005-03-27 01:31 | User Profile

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Stuka

2005-03-27 02:13 | User Profile

Let's see now. The Minutemen have been:

...attacked & insulted by the Mexican government ...threatened with lawsuits ...maligned by the US government ...physically threatened by Mestizo terrorists (MS-13) ...smeared by left-wing activist organizations such as the ACLU ...repeatedly defamed by a belligerent media ...harrassed by assorted left-wing activists Hispanic supremacists have even demonstrated outside the home of the Minutemen's founder, James Gilchrist.

With enemies like these, the Minutemen must be doing something right!

If white Americans play our cards right, this impending clash could be the start of something really big. :gunsmilie


Howard Campbell, Jr.

2005-03-27 02:22 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Stuka]Let's see now. The Minutemen have been:

...attacked & insulted by the Mexican government ...threatened with lawsuits ...maligned by the US government ...physically threatened by Mestizo terrorists (MS-13) ...smeared by left-wing activist organizations such as the ACLU ...repeatedly defamed by a belligerent media ...harrassed by assorted left-wing activists Hispanic supremacists have even demonstrated outside the home of the Minutemen's founder, James Gilchrist.

With enemies like these, the Minutemen must be doing something right!

If white Americans play our cards right, this impending clash could be the start of something really big. :gunsmilie[/QUOTE]

Don't forget that both Bush Junior and the vapid Condi Rice smeared the lads last week...the Minutemen represent that mere 85% of us opposed to the Thirdworldization scheme of the Plutocrats and Aztlantistas...

Yes, it will probably come to violence. Thanks, Junior--thanks, Wall St...