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Thread ID: 17396 | Posts: 13 | Started: 2005-03-19
2005-03-19 03:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE] [URL]http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=HomePage[/URL]
[israelinsider Updated 03/18/05 21:45 Israel time] Moving into high gear ahead of the planned summer pullout from the Gaza Strip, the Israeli army on Friday barred Israeli citizens from moving into the area and said it would start trucking out military equipment over the next two weeks. The Gaza relocation ban, effective immediately, is meant to prevent Jewish settlers opposed to the withdrawal from fulfilling a pledge to bring tens of thousands of supporters to beef up their resistance. ...[/QUOTE]
Am I the only one surprised by this?
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2005-03-19 03:14 | User Profile
I suspect Israel will have a hidden agenda, they always do!
2005-03-19 04:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Free The Truth]I suspect Israel will have a hidden agenda, they always do![/QUOTE] That's exactly what starr said over at the phora.
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2005-03-19 04:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]That's exactly what starr said over at the phora.
:lol:[/QUOTE] Even if they don't. Which I am 99% sure they do. It is safe to assume that all hell is going to break loose soon. Those crazy settlers may number Sharon's days. Just like Rabin.
2005-03-19 04:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]Even if they don't. Which I am 99% sure they do. It is safe to assume that all hell is going to break loose soon. Those crazy settlers may number Sharon's days. Just like Rabin.[/QUOTE] Now THAT scares me. If those wackos actually take out Sharon... all bets are off.
I wonder what Bebe would do if Sharon was assassinated?
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2005-03-19 04:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Now THAT scares me. If those wackos actually take out Sharon... all bets are off.
I wonder what Bebe would do if Sharon was assassinated?
:tank:[/QUOTE]I actually have a bit more respect for the settlers just in that they are not phony and hiding behind some bullshit peace plan. I do believe they will attempt something pretty dramatic. If they do kill the fat boy and war criminal, it will at least throw the country into chaos for a while, which could be very beneficial to a hard-liner type like netanyahou(sp).
On a slightly different subject, wasn't there at least some rumors, for a time about netanyahou being somehow connected to the death of Yitzak Rabin?
2005-03-19 05:42 | User Profile
Sharon is playing games. He will make noises about giving up Gaza, but he will later on find some kind of phony excuse to hold onto it.
BTW, I think it is the consensus that Rabin was basically killed by the Shin Bet, Israeli Military Intelligence.
2005-03-19 05:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]... On a slightly different subject, wasn't there at least some rumors, for a time about netanyahou being somehow connected to the death of Yitzak Rabin? [/QUOTE] There were rumors about everyone being involved. Poor Yitzak was obviously serious about peace and the militant ââ¬Åhawksââ¬Â didn't like it.
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[QUOTE=CornCod]... BTW, I think it is the consensus that Rabin was basically killed by the Shin Bet, Israeli Military Intelligence. [/QUOTE] Yeah... in cooperation with the Mossad. Those two departments should be sent on vacation for the next six months... until the pullout is complete.
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2005-03-19 14:36 | User Profile
[size=4]Israel Boycotts Peace Conference; Mainstream Media Mum on Meeting[/size][center]By Christopher Bollyn
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Unreported in the corporate controlled press, the Israeli boycott of the recent international Middle East peace summit in London illustrates why the Israel-Palestine conflict remains stuck in a quagmire after 57 years and who is ultimately responsible.
Although Israel stayed away, its hard-line government dictated the conference agenda and terms of discussion. Foreign ministers and high-level delegations from 23 nations and six international organizations convened in London on March 1 to try and advance the ââ¬Åpeace processââ¬Â between the Palestinians and Israelis. The attendees included the newly elected Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan,Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the European Unionââ¬â¢s (EU) foreign policy chief Javier Solana and World Bank president James D. Wolfensohn. Representatives from the UN, EU, the United States and Russiaââ¬âthe ââ¬ÅQuartetââ¬Â members who drafted the current peace plan known as the ââ¬Åroad mapââ¬Âââ¬âwere also present for the one-day conference at the Queen Elizabeth II Conference Center.
Despite the presence of so many high-level delegations, the international gathering, which Blair had originally hoped would be, or lead to, a peace conference, was unable to advance the peace process even one step because the chief antagonist of the conflict in Palestine, the Israeli government, simply boycotted the conference.
This, however, went unreported in the U.S. mainstream media.
ââ¬ÅIsrael refused to send anyone to the gathering,ââ¬Â Rick Kelly reported on the web site wsws.org. ââ¬ÅThe Likud-Labour coalition government of Ariel Sharon opposed Blairââ¬â¢s planned conference when he first floated it after Bushââ¬â¢s reelection last November. As far as Israel was concerned, any discussion on its own obligations or on ââ¬Ëfinal statusââ¬â¢ issues related to the road map, the future of East Jerusalem, the borders of any Palestinian state, or the right of return for refugees was illegitimate.
ââ¬ÅWith the Bush administrationââ¬â¢s full support, Sharon insisted that the only subject open for discussion was how to best whip the Palestinian Authority (PA) into line,ââ¬Â Kelly wrote. ââ¬ÅThe British prime minister quickly altered the character of the assembly to meet these demands. It was not even possible to call the gathering a conference, only a meeting.ââ¬Â
Sharon has always avoided international Middle East conferences, out of fear of being forced to withdraw from the occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza. Rather than comply with international law and UN resolutions calling for Israeli withdrawal, Sharon continues to obstruct peace efforts by demanding that the PA disarm groups resisting Israeli occupation in the West Bank and Gaza.
Rather than report that the Sharon government had boycotted the international conference, the controlled press in the United States shifted its focus to the question of Syriaââ¬â¢s military presence in Lebanon and U.S. demands for a complete Syrian withdrawal.
The Palestinians had protested, saying the conference would do nothing to press Israel to meet its obligations or fulfill existing commitments to ease the occupation or end the expansion of settlements.
ââ¬ÅThe London non-event on Palestine was a superb exercise in obfuscation,ââ¬Â The Dawn wrote. ââ¬ÅBoycotted by Israel, the meeting did not even make a passing reference to the real issueââ¬âthe continued Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories.ââ¬Â
[url="http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/israel_boycotts_peace.html"]http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/israel_boycotts_peace.html[/url]
2005-03-19 15:12 | User Profile
Expect a big "attack" from the "Palestinians" LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.
Sharon goes one step foward and three backwards, and the day the Jews leaves anything will be the day that I will "love" the Jews and that sure as hell will never happen.
2005-03-19 15:14 | User Profile
I think they will pull out. That eliminates 2 million problems for them in the short term. The West bank is a different story. Whatever they decide that ultimately causes the rest of us problems we can count on the Bush Administration to do nothing except make a few noises.
2005-03-19 21:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=CornCod]Sharon is playing games. He will make noises about giving up Gaza, but he will later on find some kind of phony excuse to hold onto it.
BTW, I think it is the consensus that Rabin was basically killed by the Shin Bet, Israeli Military Intelligence.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. He will never surrender the Gaza to the Palestinians. Any actions they take in the interest of peace simply won't bear fruit. They will only play their "pretend peace" in order to get the US off their backs. Even if they leave, they will manufacture an excuse to go back, like a car bomb they "claim" was from Palestinian terrorists. Have you ever seen the news interviews of some of those jew settlers in Gaza? They are very clear that the Palestinians must be exterminated so that the jews can continue to steal the land without consequences. After all, why do they y need peace? They have OUR children dying to protect their murders and thievery. :angry:
2005-03-19 21:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Expect a big "attack" from the "Palestinians" LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.
.[/QUOTE] Yes, you just know that is coming very soon. Then the settlers will have nothing to worry about.