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Thread ID: 17382 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2005-03-18
2005-03-18 09:36 | User Profile
Posted to the web on: 18 March 2005 [URL=http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/topstories.aspx?ID=BD4A29372]Mbeki warns white farmers to commit to land reform [/URL] Siseko Njobeni
PRESIDENT Thabo Mbeki said yesterday the seizure of land would not be necessary if white commercial farmers remained committed to land reform and redistribution.
Mbeki, speaking at an imbizo with black farmers at Calvinia in Northern Cape, was replying to a complaint from emerging farmers that it was difficult to access agricultural land. They called on him to seize land to meet their needs.
Mbekiââ¬â¢s comments come days after South African Communist Party general secretary Blade Nzimande told a black farmersââ¬â¢ summit it would take another 100 years for government to transfer 30% of commercial agricultural land to blacks.
Nzimande said the ââ¬Åwilling buyer, willing sellerââ¬Â principle was to blame for the slow pace of land redistribution, and that white commercial farmers frustrated the programme by inflating prices of land under claim.
The communist party has previously questioned white commercial farmersââ¬â¢ commitment to land reform. As part of its Red October campaign last year, the organisation marched to the offices of AgriSA, demanding accelerated land reform.
Former land affairs department director- general Gilingwe Mayende said last year government had to redistribute 1,87-million hectares of land a year to meet its 2014 target. He said the yearly transfer rate at the time was about 350000ha.
The department says about 3,5-million hectares of land have been shared out since 1994 through three main processes ââ¬â redistribution, restitution, which seeks to address land dispossession, and tenure reform, which is for for farmworkers who have had no legal status to the land on which they live, in some cases for generations.
President of commercial farmersââ¬â¢ group AgriSA Lourie Bosman said yesterday white commercial farmers were concerned, too, about the slow pace of land claims settlement. ââ¬ÅJust like the emerging black farmers, our members are also anxious about this process.
ââ¬ÅIt is often difficult for a farmer to continue producing in a piece of land once a claim is lodged. There is always uncertainty,ââ¬Â Bosman said.
He dismissed Nzimandeââ¬â¢s comments that the willing buyer, willing seller approach caused the delay.
ââ¬ÅThat is not true. The biggest problem has been money. That was the reason why government could not meet the target it had set to settle all land claims by end of this year.
ââ¬ÅOne must realise that transfer of land cannot just take place in a short space of time. There are logistics involved. We are, however, optimistic that government will meet its targets,ââ¬Â he said.
Mbeki said government would look into the issue of inflated farmland prices.
Bosman said the farmersââ¬â¢ union did not condone the abuse of the land-reform programme either.
ââ¬ÅWeââ¬â¢re against a situation where people ask for more than the market price. The constitution states it clearly that land under claim should be sold at market prices. We are totally against the abuse of the system,ââ¬Â Bosman said.
Mbeki also told the meeting in Calvinia that his government had allocated R1bn to support emerging commercial agriculture farmers.
In his budget speech last month, Finance Minister Trevor Manuel announced a microfinance scheme for emerging farmers and beneficiaries of land reform.
Manuel said R600m would be allocated to the schemeover the next five years.
2005-03-18 13:54 | User Profile
Land reform in Africa: Whites giving land to negroes due to government mandates.
Isn't that also called "stealing?"
2005-03-18 14:30 | User Profile
I'd watch this carefully. Let's hope this is the spark that sets things off. Will the Afrikaners tolerate this nonsense the way the Anglo whites up in Rhodesia/Zim have?
2005-03-18 16:23 | User Profile
I took a short "vacation" in Rhode back in 76 where I served as a spoter in a light plane (between Umptali and Chipinga), the fields were big and even and are nothing like the pictures that I saw about six months ago, where it was green before now either they are brown or there is nothing.
I the blacks were to take over the fields in S. Africa the same thing will happen.
2005-03-18 16:58 | User Profile
[B][I] - "Isn't that also called "stealing?"[/I][/B]
Negroes have a stock answer to the commandment "thou shalt not steal":
"You can't steal anything from a White man, for he has already stolen anything!"
(Was it LeRoi Jones who first uttered it?)
Petr
2005-03-18 18:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stuka]I'd watch this carefully. Let's hope this is the spark that sets things off. Will the Afrikaners tolerate this nonsense the way the Anglo whites up in Rhodesia/Zim have?[/QUOTE]
It is rumored that Mandela's death will be the signal to launch an all-out anti-White pogrom.
2005-03-19 00:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stuka]Will the Afrikaners tolerate this nonsense the way the Anglo whites up in Rhodesia/Zim have?[/QUOTE] Yes!
And by the way white Rhodesians did make a determined stand - remember the Rhodesian Bush War - and I don't recollect a whole lot help coming from their southern 'friends'.
2005-03-19 10:17 | User Profile
[B][I] - "It is rumored that Mandela's death will be the signal to launch an all-out anti-White pogrom."[/I][/B]
Hah! Let it be so. Blacks are pathetic in a direct armed confrontation, and it would also be a PR disaster for anti-White propagandists around the world.
Petr
2005-03-19 10:55 | User Profile
[URL=http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37010]White slaughter in South Africa?[/URL]Plans made to conduct campaign of genocide after Mandela's death Posted: February 9, 2004
While former South African President Nelson Mandela, 85, scoffs at rumors of ill health, plans are being made by the nation's Communist Party to slaughter all whites in the country upon his death, G2B sources say.
One of the operations planned entails 70,000 armed black men "being transported to the Johannesburg city center within an hour" in taxicabs to attack whites.
The plans are variously dubbed "Operation Vula," "Night of the Long Knives," "Operation White Clean-up," "Operation Iron Eagle" and "Red October campaign."
Operation "Our Rainy Day" was to be carried out after the death of Nelson Mandela and would have entailed blacks being transported to the largest cities in taxis.
The assailants were expected to "take over" fuel points and massacre whites. The attacks would lead to a coup.
Sources say most blacks in the country are aware of the plans. When racial disputes occur, blacks often tell whites, "Wait until Mandela dies.ââ¬Â
"White people in South Africa can deny it to the end of the earth, but we are in real danger," one resident said. "This is no joke and any person with half a brain can see that this rumor has spiraled out of control."
Many whites are now convinced a vicious campaign of ethnic cleansing will follow Mandela's death whenever it comes. Some are making preparations for retreats.
"I have prepared myself and we have a gathering place where we can fortify for four weeks after Mandelaââ¬â¢s death," said one white South African. "If nothing happens it will be a miracle."
The Red October campaign is allegedly a Communist plot to oust President Thabo Mbeki. Mbeki would be replaced by Cyril Ramaphosa.
"I was starting to think I was going nuts!" said another white South Africa resident. "'Operation Uhuru' or 'Operation White Clean-up' is definitely no rumor. I spoke to someone who told me that some blacks in Zimbabwe have also confirmed that this 'event' will take place. My cousin stays on a farm in Mpumalanga, not too far from Johannesburg. A black police officer in that district told his white colleague that they are going to kill us like flies, and there is nothing we can do about it. And that they also don't care if we know."
Meanwhile, Mandela, obviously aware of the growing rumors, last week assured the public he is well.
"My health is all right," he told reporters in Cape Town. "I'm doing very well. Others have gone further and said I am on the eve of going to my grave. If that day comes, I will go and knock at the door of heaven. ... They will look at the list and say: 'Your name is not here ... can you try next door?'"
Concern about Mandela's health surfaced last month when he canceled a scheduled meeting with visiting German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder. The former president was at the time relaxing on the Indian Ocean island of Mauritius.
Mandela joked that when his time comes, "I will look for a branch of the ANC (the ruling African National Congress) in that world (and) I'll join it."
2005-03-19 15:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr] - "It is rumored that Mandela's death will be the signal to launch an all-out anti-White pogrom."
Hah! Let it be so. Blacks are pathetic in a direct armed confrontation, and it would also be a PR disaster for anti-White propagandists around the world.
Petr[/QUOTE] Yeah, let them just try. The 'blecks' are an incompetent lot who couldn't even organize a piss-up in a brewery. :cheers: