← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Howard Campbell, Jr.
Thread ID: 17378 | Posts: 14 | Started: 2005-03-18
2005-03-18 05:17 | User Profile
Yes, he's still dead...
Thursday 17th March, 2005
Big News Network.com Friday 18th March, 2005 (UPI)
Madrid's last remaining statue of Francisco Franco was removed as supporters of the late Spanish dictator gave the Fascist salute.
Police stood by as workers used a large crane to haul the bronze equestrian sculpture off its plinth in the Plaza San Juan de la Cruz late Wednesday night. It was then transported to a government warehouse for storage.
A government official said the statue, which was erected in 1959, was removed as part of a renovation plan for the area, and also because the majority of (Madrid) citizens didn't like it, the newspaper El Mundo reported Thursday.
Franco led a revolt against Spain's left wing Republican government in 1936, starting the three-year Spanish civil war. His dictatorship lasted until his death in 1975, which was followed by a restoration of democracy under a constitutional monarchy.
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2005-03-18 16:20 | User Profile
Spain did the right thing by withdrawing her troops from Junior's Iraq quagmire--wonder where the Falangists stand on interfering in the affairs of other nations?
2005-03-18 16:26 | User Profile
Neither Franco nor Pinochet were saints, and they both broke a few eggs; but those eggs were a necessary part of the recipe for the delicious 'saving the country from communism' omelet.
2005-03-18 16:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]Neither Franco nor Pinochet were saints, and they both broke a few eggs; but those eggs were a necessary part of the recipe for the delicious 'saving the country from communism' omelet.[/QUOTE]
But is Fascism still dynamic enough to take on the Plutocracy on behalf of the people?
Militant Populism is needed to smash the abuses of the Money Power...before we're all dragooned to the Global Plantation.
2005-03-18 17:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]But is Fascism still dynamic enough to take on the Plutocracy on behalf of the people?
Militant Populism is needed to smash the abuses of the Money Power...before we're all dragooned to the Global Plantation.[/QUOTE] I'm not advocating either Pinochet or Franco as models for a response to our current situation. Both men were reacting to specific situations which existed at specific times in their respective countries. I was just pointing out that they both did what they did because they felt (probably correctly ) that it was necessary to save their countries from communism. I agree that the Global Capitalist system (which isn't all that different from communism in many ways) is the greatest threat we face today.
2005-03-19 01:23 | User Profile
This is just the last Franco statue in Madrid, then? There are still presumably a few others floating around, outside of Catalonia and Basqueland, that is?
2005-03-19 01:59 | User Profile
A sad day for Spain...
2005-03-19 02:03 | User Profile
Its sad to see the last statue of General Franco being removed from Madrid. I always had a few bones to pick with the caudillo. When Franco took over the Falange in the wake of the death of the saintly Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera, he watered down its militancy and filled the organization with reactionary elements. He caved in too much to big business interests, the landlords and some of the less savory elements of the church. So Spain ended up with a rather stagnant regime, which didn't survive the death of of its leader. Franco should have given the Falange a freer hand. Spain would have made more progress and would have stayed just as Christian and dedicated to ethernal values.
On the other hand, Franco was a well meaning Christian gentleman who saved Spain from the Reds and other spurious "progressive" elements. He does deserve a lot of credit for his firmness as a leader. He deserves to be honored, even if he had significant failings.
2005-03-19 02:12 | User Profile
CornCod,
America's Future?
[QUOTE]Thursday 17th March, 2025
Big News Network.com Friday 18th March, 2025 (UPI)
D.C.'s last remaining statue of Goerge Washington was removed as white racist supporters of the late American slave owning racist dictator saluted.[/QUOTE]
2005-03-19 02:21 | User Profile
We make them and we brake them accoding to wour belief of the situation and one of this day will be removing the statues of Chavez in Venezuela.
According to Rice "Chavez is a danger to the WHOLE region of the Americas" a "danger only because they have oil that we want.
Like Chavez said "I can't wait to see what kind of WOMD the US will say that we have in Venezuela".
2005-03-19 15:44 | User Profile
What a shame. The totalitarian Left just can't leave history alone. I liked Franco. His campaigns in Morocco in the 1920s with the Spanish Foreign Legion are legendary (viva la muerte!). Perhaps we could start a fundraiser & buy the statue from the Spanish regime?
2005-03-19 15:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]Militant Populism is needed to smash the abuses of the Money Power...before we're all dragooned to the Global Plantation.[/QUOTE]Good point. Only recently, I've come to the conclusion that the traditional "small government," laissez-faire, federalist, paleo-libertarian approach to politics is totally inadequate for what Euro-Americans are up against in this country. I'm increasingly convinced that whites need something more militant, more cohesive, more group-oriented, more "fascistic" (though definitely not neo-nazi).
2005-03-19 23:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stuka]Perhaps we could start a fundraiser & buy the statue from the Spanish regime?[/QUOTE]
There's no need for that; once things are back in order in Europe, his statue will again be in its place of honor, along with several others of Gen. Franco, I'm sure.
2005-03-20 08:00 | User Profile
3-20-05
More on the Franco statue matter
[B]Franco Statue Removed in Spain[/B]
It appears that the last statue of the late Spanish leader Francisco Franco has just been removed from public view in Spain.
Franco, who died in 1975, is often smeared as having been a "dictator," a "fascist" who oppressed innocent people [1]. But the truth of the matter is that Franco saved Spain from becoming a Soviet outpost.
In the 1930s, Soviet agents - most of them Jewish - tried to communize Spain, but Franco and his allies stopped them, in what is known as the Spanish Civil War [2].
Franco's battling of the so-called "republicans" - i.e. the communists and their leftist sympathizers - was a "crime" that the political Left would not allow any support of then and still does not really allow any support of today. Indeed, famous people who championed the "republicans" during the Spanish Civil War - such as the "painter" and communist Pablo Picasso - were applauded by the Left, while people who voiced support for Franco and the anti-communists were denounced as fascists who hated freedom and democracy. In fact, to this day the Spanish Civil War is still an issue to the political Left in the West [3].
Bottom line: how sad that the West is mothballing statues of men who tried to save Western culture from Marxism, while at the same time it is glorifying people who don't deserve to be mentioned in polite company.
[1] how ironic that, even though Francisco Franco could be brutal at times, he did not oppress any Jews - which is probably why he remained in power for so long. [Perhaps he was reluctant to deal with the Jews harshly because he was a devout Christian]. In fact, Franco was the longest-reigning "fascist" dictator in history after Portugal's Salazar. Also, there is no evidence for the rather-common claim that Franco had marrano [Jewish] ancestors
[2] Jewish communists in Spain: [url]http://wsi.matriots.com/spain.html[/url]
[3] Picasso was anti-Franco mainly through his art, not necessarily through his words. Picasso was a member of France's communist party. Further, the Spanish Civil War remains a popular issue with far-left activists, apparently because they feel that Franco "got away with" defeating "democracy" in Spain. In fact, if Francisco Franco were alive today, he would likely face criminal charges brought against him by left-wing, activist judges - which is what Chile's former leader Pinochet has experienced
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