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Thread ID: 17255 | Posts: 15 | Started: 2005-03-11
2005-03-11 21:09 | User Profile
BUDAPEST (AFP) - The Budapest subway opened an exhibition of the work of New York-based artist Art Spiegelman who has translated the horror of the Holocaust into a comic book novel. Pictures from Spiegelman's "Maus," in which he depicts Jews as mice and Germans as cats in a black-and-white interpretation of his own parents' survival of the Auschwitz death camp, have gone on display on two subway lines.
The pictures will be shown for one month in the capital's 46 metro cars.
Culture Minister Andras Bozoki said the comics reminded metro passengers of the world of children but the pictures raiseD serious questions.
"What happens when there are adults who never grow up, for whom the use of force and murder are only games," he asked at the exhibition's opening at one of the capital's metro stations.
"This question is the subject of the infernal humour of Spiegelman's Auschwitz comics," Bozoki said.
Some 450,000 Hungarian Jews were killed at the Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland during World War II and altogether an estimated 600,000 Hungarian Jews died in the Holocaust.
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2005-03-12 01:37 | User Profile
I only gave Maus a casual glance, but it appeared to me to be a factual account of Spiegelman's parents in the camps. No tales of gassings or ditches full of burning babies.
2005-03-12 04:36 | User Profile
The article only mentions the depictions in [I]Maus[/I] of the Jews as mice and Germans as cats.
The Hungarians may find some of Spiegelman's other national daubings less tasteful: Poles as pigs; Japanese as beetles; Gypsies as moths; French as frogs; Brits as fish---and Americans as dogs.
But for a truly [B]hateful[/B] animated account of the big "H", start here: [url]http://www.heretical.com/holohoax/index.html[/url]
2005-03-12 04:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Six] Some 450,000 Hungarian Jews were killed at the Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland during World War II... [/QUOTE] Did they forget to revise this number down at the same time the number of victims in Auschwitz was?
2005-03-12 04:47 | User Profile
You are apparenty mired in the Old Math, brother... :D
6,000,000 minus 4,000,000 can either equal 6,000,000 or twenty years in a German jail...
2005-03-12 07:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]You are apparenty mired in the Old Math, brother... :D
6,000,000 minus 4,000,000 can either equal 6,000,000 or twenty years in a German jail...[/QUOTE] :thumbsup:
2005-03-12 09:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE]The article only mentions the depictions in Maus of the Jews as mice and Germans as cats.[/QUOTE]
I've read MAUS. It's not bad at all, although anyone depicting Jews as vermin is sort of saving the rest of us some heavy lifting. Who the hell would choose to cage up the cats so that the rats might run free? It's a beautifully double-edged metaphor that I'm stunned Spiegelman doesn't recognize.
I've got three cats, and [I]no [/I] rats, in my humble abode. And there's no 'logic' on earh that would convince me that the reverse ratio would be preferable.
2005-03-12 15:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]I've read MAUS. It's not bad at all, although anyone depicting Jews as vermin is sort of saving the rest of us some heavy lifting. Who the hell would choose to cage up the cats so that the rats might run free? It's a beautifully double-edged metaphor that I'm stunned Spiegelman doesn't recognize.
I've got three cats, and [I]no [/I] rats, in my humble abode. And there's no 'logic' on earh that would convince me that the reverse ratio would be preferable.[/QUOTE]
Figured you for a cat guy, 'Rachy. :D
Maybe Art reckoned that Disney had de-vermified rodents with you-know-who...
2005-03-12 15:31 | User Profile
IR,
That's a pretty good line of thought you constructed. Spiegelman probably was thinking of those cute little mice one sees in an old WB's "Looneytoon", not realizing that they are related to rats and can be equally destructive.
I have a pretty good mauser myself. A while back I was rewarded with the sight of a dead rat with its head ripped off in the backyard. ROWWWL!
2005-03-12 15:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]IR,
That's a pretty good line of thought you constructed. Spiegelman probably was thinking of those cute little mice one sees in an old WB's "Looneytoon", not realizing that they are related to rats and can be equally destructive.
I have a pretty good mauser myself. A while back I was rewarded with the sight of a dead rat with its head ripped off in the backyard. ROWWWL![/QUOTE]
Now, I would have taken you for a [U]dog[/U] man, Sarge.
Didn't the Fievel mouse cartoon character (American Tale) have to deal with "oppressive" Czarist Cats in Russia and Irish cop Cats in NYC?
2005-03-12 15:51 | User Profile
Howard,
I remember that film but didn't see it, so I don't know. That sounds par for the course. I like dogs and have owned them in the past, however, I adopted a stray and have dealt with cats since then. They are master hunters and can be quite fierce in dealing with other creatures they don't like, which is to say just about everything. I had one that would chase off the racoons and opossums that would sometimes come in the backyard. Just think- a coon chasing cat. C.C.C.
2005-03-12 15:57 | User Profile
Just think- a coon chasing cat. C.C.C.
Think your dossier at Mo's "Hatewatch" just fattened by a few megabytes, brother. :D
Actually we had both an Akita dog and a red tomcat here until last month--when the kitty got nabbed by two team-working coyotes. R.I.P., Moggy.
2005-03-12 16:24 | User Profile
Oh, I love dogs as well. Have had a beagle and a beautiful golden Lab; but it's - to my thinking anyway - inhumane to raise a dog in a crowded city where the only open spaces he can roam are parks generally overstuffed with a thousand other dogs and their owners: that's too confining and regimented....I couldn't subject a dog to that kind of existence. Without fail, there's always some rat-tailed teenager with a poorly- or just untrained Dobie or Rott running around terrorizing the populace, human and canine. (It's a thousand times worse in Darktown, where [I]all [/I] of the dogs are psychotic Rotts and used as four-legged security guards for drug dealers.)
This winter alone, two or three pooches have been electrocuted here while being walked, by live wires left dangling by Con Ed crews. In fact, one killed the dog [I]and [/I] its owner! No, post-apocalyptic hellholes like this place ain't no fit home for man [I]nor [/I] beast.
2005-03-13 03:48 | User Profile
I love my cats and only wish that my little female cat would stop trying to feed me, she brings me mices, snakes, birds , lizards and one time a dead humminbird.
By the way, for some reason she always brings me the animals alive.
Both my cats also make good guard cats and always let me know when ever someone is near my home.
2005-03-13 05:40 | User Profile
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