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Thread ID: 17178 | Posts: 25 | Started: 2005-03-08
2005-03-08 06:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE][B]The White Freedom Party (WFP[/B])
I hope I'm not violating any rules here by announcing the formation of The White Freedom Party, which was founded in January this year, by Alex Linder of [url]www.govnn.com[/url] and [url]www.vnnforum.com[/url]. The initial brief description of the WFP is located at [url]www.whitefreedomparty.com[/url].
VNN websites are ACTIVISM focused. (1) A White political party, (2) We publish a 16-page tabloid newspaper, entitled: "The Aryan Alternative", that is supported financially and thru voluntary distributions, by almost 100 VNNforum members, thus far. Our next edition, due out in a few days, will be printed and distributed in 20,000 copies. (Our most recent edition can be viewed in it's entirety at [url]www.govnn.com[/url] - a truly dynamic and incredibly persuasive expose of international jewry, published by Alex Linder and many other excellent WN writers), (3) Our Email-Project sends hard-hitting articles to almost 3,000 selected email addressees, weekly, and (4) We have several other ACTIVISM projects in the planning stages.
Those who are interested in supporting and/or participating in actual WN activisms such as those I've mentioned, are encouraged to visit our two websites to learn more about them.
"He who has learned the jews, but refuses to warn his kinsmen of the jewish menace, is an accomplice of the jews, and an assessory in the jewish enslavement and genocide of his own Race."
This is my belief. And I hope it is your's, as well. Hail Victory !!![/QUOTE] The above announcement was originally made by Glenn Miller. While we certainly don't agree in large part with VNN or their new WFP, let alone endorse them, we do feel they have a constitutional right to be heard. There certainly is a lack of political alternatives to the Republican Party today - hopefully their party will not discredit the idea of anti-globalist alternative parties in general. Accordingly we are reproducing this announcement - [I]Okiereddust[/I]
2005-03-08 06:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE]The initial brief description of the WFP is located at [url]www.whitefreedomparty.com[/url].[/QUOTE]Maybe as a start the WFP could get their website working.
2005-03-08 07:41 | User Profile
[url]http://www.whitefreedomparty.org/[/url]
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2005-03-15 02:09 | User Profile
Go WFP!
2005-03-15 02:30 | User Profile
I have been lurking over a VNN lately, and I have to say, it really is a hilarious site.
2005-03-15 02:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco][url]http://www.whitefreedomparty.org/[/url]
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I like it!
2005-03-15 03:53 | User Profile
I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible on this point.
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]hopefully their party will not discredit the idea of anti-globalist alternative parties in general. t[/I][/QUOTE]
2005-03-15 03:57 | User Profile
Linder's libertarian side definitely comes out in the WFP platform.
2005-03-15 06:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Valley Forge]Linder's libertarian side definitely comes out in the WFP platform.[/QUOTE]Yup. Linder isn't [B]saying[/B] he's going to appoint himself fuhrer and Gestapo chief. I think that's the extent of his "libertarianism".
Platform is vague. Sort of like the original Bolshevic platform "Peace, Bread, and Land". I'm curious what he concretely intends to do, i.e. field candidates or whatever.
2005-03-15 22:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hiser]Not a chance in hell. No one should support anyone who is connected with rats like Glenn Miller. Stay away.[/QUOTE]
I'm inclined to agree, as well as to express similar, albeit differently motivated, sentiments with regard to Alex Linder. Stay FAR away.
2005-03-16 19:26 | User Profile
:gunsmilie
2005-03-16 20:06 | User Profile
While Dr. Francis and Jared Taylor had always been in something of a class by themselves, I hadn't realized Peter Brimelow and the John Randolph Club were so advanced in their thinking. Good show! You can call me a paleo-conservative anytime you like....in the final analysis, these are the guys who are probably going to win this fight of ours, but we need a fascistic auxillliary, just in case.
2005-03-16 21:55 | User Profile
I'm convinced now that third parties are a waste of time and money. All of them put together got less than 1% of the popular vote last year.
2005-03-16 22:39 | User Profile
Ross Perot got 18% of the vote criticizing NAFTA and illegal immigration. Being that he was a billionaire, the public thought that he must know something about the way the world works. Alex Linder is a nobody, the public says, "why should I listen to this nobody?" That's just the way the public reasons. We need somebody like Perot again, but who talks about race, Jews, our corrupt foreign policy, etc. Then we would see massive change. Linder's party won't do anything.
2005-03-16 23:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Ross Perot got 18% of the vote criticizing NAFTA and illegal immigration. Being that he was a billionaire, the public thought that he must know something about the way the world works. Alex Linder is a nobody, the public says, "why should I listen to this nobody?" That's just the way the public reasons.[/QUOTE] True. Did Ross really criticize illegal immigration? I don't recall that. But a third-party candidate will need an impressive resume if he is to have success.
2005-03-17 22:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Six]Linder's party won't do anything.[/QUOTE]
Well, nothing against the platform, but I believe Linder himself has said they're not trying to win anything, which kind of makes the exercise pointless. Granted, the odds on having a Congressman Linder taking office in January '07 are slim-to-none, but shouldn't you at least pretend you're swinging for the fence? It's hard to drum up support for a campaign you up-front say you have no intention of winning.
2005-03-17 22:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stanley]I'm convinced now that third parties are a waste of time and money. All of them put together got less than 1% of the popular vote last year.[/QUOTE]
I tend to agree. They make more sense in smaller countries, such as those of Europe.
The only strategy conventionally is to find someone the public will rally behind-- Ross Perot, Mel Gibson, or some other populist figure. Then choose whatever vehicle best suits that person.
2005-03-18 00:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=AntiYuppie]What I said is that it is impossible to truly be in favor of conserving traditional Western institutions without some racial separatist component. The Left recognizes this instinctively, that's why when Leftists hear talk of "Western culture" they cry "racist." [/QUOTE]
I wonder if the Left really has better instincts or that the charge of 'racism' has proven to be such an effective weapon against the Right. All the Left has to do is make the charge and then 95% of the Right's political efforts go to denying said charge instead of advancing their agenda. Think of Buchanan's 2000 run and the charge of anti-semitism that the mainstream media incessantly hounded him on at every turn. When almost every vehicle for getting one's message out into the public arena is controlled by the ideological enemy, one has to figure out a way to get around that. So far the true Right hasn't done so and it is reflected in today's political climate.
2005-03-18 00:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I wonder if the Left really has better instincts or that the charge of 'racism' has proven to be such an effective weapon against the Right. All the Left has to do is make the charge and then 95% of the Right's political efforts go to denying said charge instead of advancing their agenda. Think of Buchanan's 2000 run and the charge of anti-semitism that the mainstream media incessantly hounded him on at every turn.[/QUOTE]Well we all know of course Pat was a traitor to the cause. Think of it, all he had to do was start wearing a swastika and grow a mustache, and people would have come running to him and he would have been elected President. Shute, we probably wouldn't even have needed an election, his followers would have just marched down Pennsylvania avenue and installed him as [I]fuhrer [/I] for life. Instead he chose to forego all that just to keep his CNN job, and we just have to wait till 2008 for Linder to show us how its done. (Assuming he isn't planning a march of his own) :lol:
2005-03-18 05:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hiser]So does the pro-White movement have any hope?
I'm starting to think not...[/QUOTE]As a distinct movement, especially with the sort of scandal of particularity described by Linder - strident and in your face - it obviously doesn't. And those who follow and are even influenced by Linder IMO work therefore to ensure the extinction of the pro-White movement, and the white race in general.
As Francis notes, for most of us its to the catacombs, if we hope to avoid the lions. I'm suspicious of those seem unable to grasp this rather obvious truth.
2005-03-21 03:17 | User Profile
Maybe an alliance of Radical Paleos and non-eccentric White Nationalists can bear good fruit. The success of the NPD in Germany is based upon a kind of similar coalition strategy.
Keep in mind that in Germany and most other European countries it is illegal under the draconian Thoughtcrime statutes to swagger forth in NS drag.
Perhaps the higher quality of leadership in the Mother Continent is due to this forced need for subtlety in symbolism and rhetoric...how many dozens of Harold Covingtons would you swap for a single LePen?
2005-03-21 03:36 | User Profile
The fact is that jumping in to the political arena --- even if your failure to achieve office is a foregone conclusion --- is an excellent way to amplify your message, because with enough momentum, the media will take note. Third parties have their drawbacks, but I don't count Ross Perot as embodying a third party, I count him as embodying Ross Perot. What the hell did he ever stand for, anyway? I don't even remember. Linder, you know what he stands for. You can't forget him. So that's a difference. He's shown he'll go out there and be quoted, and when he does, he comes off as markedly less radical than his own site, leading me to wonder if the VNN approach isn't calculated to draw people in with fireworks but give them a take-away that's stable. Engaging in a political campaign is basically the same thing. We don't have the budget or the organization of Jews, so we do what we can. Linder has made excellent use of a near-free resource, the Internet, and now seems set to do the same with another low-budget attention-getting device. If you're sitting around thinking what bullshit it is that our country has basically been co-opted by Jews, and are motivated enough by the injustice of that that you want to do something, even if you don't have power or money, I say blessed be the bold.
Bravo.
2005-03-21 03:40 | User Profile
The NPD has a lot of different strands of Nationalism working together. They have Catholic Third-Positionist types, semi-NS elements, ex-leftists, Skinheads and Nouvelle Droite all working together for a common cause. In the ole USA such an alliance would be impossible and would dissolve in five minutes due to our immaturity and pettiness.
2005-03-21 03:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=CornCod]The NPD has a lot of different strands of Nationalism working together. They have Catholic Third-Positionist types, semi-NS elements, ex-leftists, Skinheads and Nouvelle Droite all working together for a common cause. In the ole USA such an alliance would be impossible and would dissolve in five minutes due to our immaturity and pettiness.[/QUOTE]
What would it take in America?
A George Wallace with extra-regional appeal? A Ross Perot with charisma and hipness to the real issues? A Buchanan capable of forging a true Populist coalition?
I'm optimistic that it will come--but the Plutocracy has thus far co-opted our natural base...despite its wholesale betrayal of the Euro working & middle classes in America.
2005-03-21 04:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]What would it take in America?
A George Wallace with extra-regional appeal? A Ross Perot with charisma and hipness to the real issues? A Buchanan capable of forging a true Populist coalition?
I'm optimistic that it will come--but the Plutocracy has thus far co-opted our natural base...despite its wholesale betrayal of the Euro working & middle classes in America.[/QUOTE]Skip Perot, but Buchanan and Wallace both achieved big nationwide votes for a while. In 1972 - Wallace remember him getting 40% in the Michigan Democratic Primary? Before he got shot.
Duke actually I thank had national appeal for a while, although he was coopted by Buchanan. And then went to prison.
I think that's the most important lesson from our failures. Its not that we don't get attractive candidates occasionally, but ever notice how something always seems to happen to them - Huey Long, Wallace, Duke?
That's why we need a party. Single candidate movements are too vulnerable, for obvious reasons.