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2005-03-02 23:28 | User Profile
Mara Salvatruchas to take on the Minutemen vigilantes
by Ernesto Cienfuegos La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California - March 1, 2005 - (ACN) It looks like there is going to be a "showdown at OK corral" on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona. A high level leader of the Mara Salvatruchas, Ebner Anivel Rivera-Paz, has issued orders, from federal prison, to members of his extremely violent organization to teach the Minutemen vigilantes a lesson they will never forget, La Voz de Aztlan has learned.
The Mara Salvatruchas (MS-13) are a consequence of USA policies in Central America and are just another example of "the chickens coming home to roost". Its members are the sons of immigrants from El Salvador and other Central American countries that were forced to flee because of the CIA instigated war during the Reagan Administration that completely destroyed the physical, economic, social, religious and cultural infrastructure of the region. MS-13 was founded in Los Angeles by the offspring of the immigrants for protection. Later, many of the members were deported back to Central America where they expanded their operations and joined up with former members of the Farabundo MartÃÂ National Liberation Front (FMLN).
Today, the Mara Salvatruchas have grown immensely in numbers and their network has expanded through Mexico all the way to Canada. The extremely violent group controls large portions of the drug, stolen vehicle and immigrant smuggling operations along the US/Mexico border and will not put up with clowns like the Minutemen vigilantes. The amateurish Minutemen may be in for a big surprise on April Fools Day and on the subsequent days that they plan to patrol the border with Mexico in Arizona. The Mara Salvatruchas are known to cut the "testicles" of their enemies and feed them to their vicious dogs. Other times they have cut the heads off their opponents to play football soccer with them. These are not people to mess around with.
There is a good probability that very few cowardly Minutemen vigilantes will show up on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona. The principal imbeciles organizing the event are known to be mere loudmouths. The morons think that they will be just having "some fun in the sun" hunting down defenseless Mexican migrant workers but instead may meet up with the devil himself. Satan has a very warped sense of humor and April 1st would be an excellent day to express it.
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2005-03-02 23:51 | User Profile
SUSPECT IN HONDURAS BUS MASSACRE ARRESTED IN TEXAS
WASHINGTON (AP) - A man considered a leader of a violent Central American gang and and accused of masterminding a Christmastime bus massacre in Honduras had been deported from the United States four times before his arrest in South Texas this month, court documents say.
Ever Anibal Rivera Paz was arrested Feb. 10 when Texas authorities stopped two cars on a state road about 110 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border. Background and fingerprint checks revealed his previous arrests and deportations and that he was wanted in Honduras for the bus slayings, federal officials said.
U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, visiting the border in the Laredo area Thursday, praised officials for the capture of Rivera Paz **but warned that immigration and border security issues won't be resolved only by beefing up enforcement.
"I happen to think some of the people who think about building walls and deploying the military are not thinking through in a sensible fashion," said Cornyn, R-Texas, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee's immigration subcommittee.** "I don't believe you can build a wall high enough or wide enough to keep people out of the United States when they have no hope or no opportunity to provide for their families."
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2005-03-03 00:00 | User Profile
More on MS-13:
"Mara Salvaltrucha gang members have been responsible for the execution of three federal agents and numerous shootings of law enforcement officers across the country."
[url]http://www.nagia.org/mara_salvatrucha.htm[/url]
Anyone here heard about this? Compare the news coverage of these murders to the coverage of the Lefkow murders in Chicago.
2005-03-03 00:37 | User Profile
April first? Hummmmmmmm......that will be Aprils Fools Day, I wonder who the fool is going to be.
2005-03-03 17:34 | User Profile
"Mara Salvaltrucha gang members have been responsible for the execution of three federal agents and numerous shootings of law enforcement officers across the country."
Well law-enforcement, how does it feel to know that the lives of brother officers are less important than keeping business access to the supply of cheap labor unfettered, and all the assorted trash, i.e. MS-13, that comes with it? Think about that for a second, gentlemen. Your life is worth less than a tenth of a point on Tyson Food's bottom line. Yet, we (and you) are supposed to believe that "racists" and "vigilantes" are the problem in the border issue? How does that compute? Do you just grit your teeth, and hope you make it 20-25 years in without winding up on the wrong end of some Mexican's AK-47 so that you can collect your pension (assuming it will even be there a decade or two from now)? Or, do you actively enjoy cracking down on the citizens who are concerned about the way this country is being flushed down the commode? I'm seriously interested in the answer to that question, though I doubt I'll get one. I would hope any cop would ask himself those questions. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone concerned about their fellow whites is a cartoon character like the ones you see at the VNN Forum. I hope y'all keep that in mind when Chertoff gives the order to start kicking in doors. Whites are your natural allies in the pursuit of true law and order as opposed to the mess that passes for it today, but instead we're the problem the ADL lectures you to be concerned about. I'd also be interested to know how seriously the average beat cop takes these helpful goons from the ADL.
Compare the news coverage of these murders to the coverage of the Lefkow murders in Chicago.
Low-level enforcers in the Federal government are officially "little people." They're just not quite as little as the average citizen, meaning they get the courtesy of being the last ones into the lime-strewn pit.
2005-03-07 05:12 | User Profile
Salvadorans, Mexicans Promise To Kill Whites In Tombstone, Arizona April 1st Time To Slaughter The Hispanic Scum?
3/6/2005 11:09:03 PM Discuss this story in the forum LSN Staff
Tombstone, Arizona -- Ebner Anivel Rivera-Paz, leader of the Mara Salvatruchas, a Salvadoran prison gang also known as MS-13, has ordered the low-level Indian-peasant gangsters of his pathetic half-rate crew to kill the white population of Tombstone, Arizona April 1st, in response to that city's plans to hold an anti- immigration rally by a private border patrol militia known as the Minutemen.
MS-13 is a bunch of poor Salvadoran niggers, created during the guerilla war in that country, that have been allowe to set up shop for their petty crime in the United States, after white soldiers and mercernaries backed by the United States massacred their "soldiers" and defeated the attempted communist revolution by their parent group, Farabundo MartÃÂ National Liberation Front (FMLN), in their own third world shithole.
Forgetting the fact that the reason they are poor and stupid in this country is because their people were slaughtered by whites in their own nation, the group has declared racial war on those members of the white population of the United States that think that they, and other Mexishits, should not be excreted across our border by their bananna dictatorship governments.
Ironically, the white anti-immigrant organizers of the Tombstone rally that MS-13 has promised to attack have refused to allow "racists" and "white nationalists" join their cause, even as racially and ethnically organized Salvadoran and Mexican gangs plan to wage racial holy war against them as whites and "Anglos".
Despite public disavowal of white nationalist activism, the armed border militias the Salvadorans shits plan to confront have been alleged to be responsible for the disappearances of hundreds of Mexicans along the US- Mexican border, and for the occassional unearthing of mass graves of Mexican illegals.
Of course, MS-13 is also occassionally responsible for the mass graves of Mexican illegals that appear along the border. MS-13 controls much of the cross border traffic in illegal immigrants, and has been known to slaughter immigrants when disputes arise over payment for their smuggling services.
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2005-03-07 17:40 | User Profile
Despite public disavowal of white nationalist activism, the armed border militias the Salvadorans shits plan to confront have been alleged to be responsible for the disappearances of hundreds of Mexicans along the US- Mexican border, and for the occassional unearthing of mass graves of Mexican illegals.
Billy White up to his usual bullsh*t. There have been no "mass graves" of illegals found along the border, other than the one several years ago on the Mexican side of the border that was the work of weird cultists and that was a dozen or so, not the "hundreds" the media trumpeted at the time. If there were "mass graves of illegals," the media would be soiling themselves in their haste to portray White vigilantes as responsible, regardless of proof, as they have alreasdy "convicted" Hale of the murders of the Lefkow family. Therefore, I suspect this is just another malt-liquor-fuelled rant/speculation piece.
2005-03-17 23:33 | User Profile
103 MS-13 gang members arrested in sweep: [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/03/14/gang.arrests.ap/[/url]
Pardon me for being a little conspiracy-minded here, but I'm wondering if these arrests didn't have something to do with MS-13's threat against the Minutmen Militia. The last thing ZOG wants is a bunch of martyrs who died defending the border. Or maybe dubya just decided to start doing his Constitutional duty, huh? Sure he did.
2005-03-19 13:02 | User Profile
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James Taranto of Opinion Journal should be made to open up his mansion to these folks, seeing how he likes them so much. Think of that scene from Dr. Zhivago when Zhivago finds the commissar and company in his house.
I'm beginning to think that maybe Bin Laden doesn't plan to send anyone across the border to attack us. He doesn't need to. The Bush administration in conjuction with Wall Street plutocrats are doing a fine enough job of destroying the US without outside help.
2005-03-28 22:53 | User Profile
2005-03-29 22:45 | User Profile
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By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES [img]http://images.washtimes.com/images/twt-grey2.gif[/img] NACO, Ariz. -- Members of a violent Central America-based gang have been sent to Arizona to target Minuteman Project volunteers, who will begin a monthlong border vigil this weekend to find and report foreigner sneaking into the United States, project officials say.
James Gilchrist, a Vietnam veteran who helped organize the vigil to protest the federal government's failure to control illegal immigration, said he has been told that California and Texas leaders of Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, have issued orders to teach "a lesson" to the Minuteman volunteers.
"We're not worried because half of our recruits are retired trained combat soldiers," Mr. Gilchrist said. "And those guys are just a bunch of punks."
More than 1,000 volunteers are expected to take part in the Minuteman vigil, which will include civilian patrols along a 20-mile section of the San Pedro River Valley, which has become a frequent entry point to the United States for foreigner headed north.
About 40 percent of the 1.15 million foreign nationals caught last year by the U.S. Border Patrol trying to gain illegal entry to the United States were apprehended along a 260-mile stretch of the Arizona border here known as the Tucson sector.
Many of the Minuteman volunteers are expected to be armed, although organizers of the border vigil have prohibited them from carrying rifles. Only those people with a license to carry a handgun will be allowed to do so, Mr. Gilchrist said.
An operational plan calls for teams of four to eight volunteers to be deployed along the targeted 20-mile stretch of border at intervals of 200 to 300 yards, along with observation posts and a command center.
Mr. Gilchrist said some of the patrols and posts will be right on the U.S.-Mexico border, while others will be located farther north. The volunteers also have been told to "make lots of noise and burn campfires at night to be very visible."
According to guidelines issued to the volunteers earlier this month, organizers said they expect that they will be targeted by various protest groups and others and that some protesters would try to provoke confrontations.
"If we are to send the message loud and clear to President Bush and Congress, it is imperative we stay within the law," Mr. Gilchrist said.
"If one single person steps over the line for their personal gratification, we are all stained with that irresponsible behavior and labeled forever as a fringe element that embarrasses all who are counting on us to make this historic statement," he said.
The MS-13 gang has established major smuggling operations in several areas along the U.S.-Mexico border and have transported hundreds of Central and South Americans -- including gang members -- into the United States in the past two years. The gang also is involved in drug and weapons smuggling.
Gang members in America have been tied to numerous killings, robberies, burglaries, carjackings, extortion, rapes and aggravated assaults. Authorities said that the gang has earned a reputation from the other street gangs as being particularly ruthless and that it will retaliate violently when challenged.
The MS-13 gang, with 20,000 members nationwide, has risen in recent months to such prominence that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security, has begun a nationwide crackdown on gang members in this country -- as part of a sweeping law-enforcement initiative known as Operation Community Shield.
ICE agents arrested more than 100 members of the gang during limited raids that began in January in just six cities, including 35 who were taken into custody in Virginia and Maryland. The authorities said MS-13 gang members originally moved into the Los Angeles area in the 1980s.
2005-03-31 15:19 | User Profile
While obviously quite unfortunate at a certain level, I never-the-less regard this as an excellent development. These Mestizo gangsters are talking about initiating literal acts of terrorism & guerrilla war, the likes we haven't seen in this country since about 1885 or so. That's got to have the potential to wake up some people. Hopefully the Minutemen, who already planned on being armed, will get the overwhelming advantage over these invading miscreants, which is to say, I hope the Minutemen kill each and every last one of these worthless sacks of crap that attempts to unlawfully use force against such a fine organization. [B]SHUT DOWN THE DAMN SOUTHERN BORDER ALREADY![/B]
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MS-13 Plans Attack on Minutemen: El Salvadoran gang will ââ¬Åteach them a lesson.ââ¬Â
By: David Mullenax
The Minuteman Project, a volunteer U.S. border patrol group of mostly White-Americans, will be facing a dangerous enemy come opening day tomorrow. News agencies are reporting that MS-13 plans to teach the Minutemen ââ¬Åa lesson theyââ¬â¢ll never forget.ââ¬Â
La Voz de Aztlan, which means The Voice of Atzlan, has revealed that Ebner Anivel Rivera-Paz, a high-level leader of the violent MS-13 gang, has issued orders from a federal prison to attack any U.S. citizen taking part in the grassroots effort.
Mara Salvatrucha, better known as MS-13, is a criminal street gang that is well known for its brutality. Originating out of the civil war in El Salvador, their members are comprised of former paramilitary guerillas from the Central American country and new recruits they find in the States. Quite different than many domestic street gangs, MS-13 maintains a network of crime outposts that spans both countries, with factions of the gang in communication with each other frequently.
When MS-13 was first created, they limited to their membership based on El Salvadoran ethnicity, but now include Ecuadorians, Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Mexicans giving the group a true Latino flavor. Police reports indicate that their members are mostly between the ages of 11 ââ¬â 40, and estimates place their numbers at 20,000 members nationwide.
MS-13, named for La Mara, a street in San Salvador, and the Salvatrucha guerillas formed during the El Salvadoran civil war, made its mark on the bloody streets of Los Angeles. Their intention on the West Coast was to protect Salvadoran immigrants from rival ethnic groups in the area that often attacked them. Today, they are the most violent and ruthless crime gang in existence.
While most gangs initiate by ââ¬Åjumping inââ¬Â ââ¬âa practice where existing members physically assault a new recruitââ¬âMS-13 requires a violent activity to be performed before the member is accepted and tattooed. Sgt. Gary Norris of the Prince Georgeââ¬â¢s County Police Dept. in Maryland stated, ââ¬ÅWe see mostly citizen robberies, auto theft, shootings and cuttings, and homicides. Now in order to get your letters or clique [symbols] tattooed on you, you have to also put in some violent act to show your commitment.ââ¬Â
Crime is not restricted to preying on innocent civilians as orders known as ââ¬Ågreen lightsââ¬Â are issued for members to assassinate police officers. MS-13ââ¬â¢s response to any action by law enforcement that harms their organization is met with death threats and violence.
According to anti-immigration groups, MS-13 controls much of the Mexican border, and smuggles immigrants illegally for hefty fees. Attempts by volunteer groups or law enforcement officials to curb illegal entry in the United States will significantly reduce the profits earned by the gang and their human smuggling operations.
2005-03-31 15:35 | User Profile
I hope this sparks Civil War II. Please God, let it come to pass.
2005-03-31 15:38 | User Profile
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2005-03-31 15:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Recluse]U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, visiting the border in the Laredo area Thursday, praised officials for the capture of Rivera Paz **but warned that immigration and border security issues won't be resolved only by beefing up enforcement.
"I happen to think some of the people who think about building walls and deploying the military are not thinking through in a sensible fashion," said Cornyn, R-Texas, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee's immigration subcommittee.** "I don't believe you can build a wall high enough or wide enough to keep people out of the United States when they have no hope or no opportunity to provide for their families."[/QUOTE]
While there is an element of truth to what this cowardly, incompetent poltroon is saying, someone ought to inform this so-called "Senator" that failure to secure our southern border not only means the demographic destruction of the racial core of the United States of America (and thus the destruction of the very USA itself), but that it will also make Osama bin-Laden's job of making war against our civilian population a good deal less difficult. If the "Senator" is so concerned about economic opportunity for Mestizo families from Mexico, then it stands to reason the jackass ought to have run for office in Sonora or Chihuahua, rather than Texas.
Mexican and other Latin American mass immigration is a very real and direct threat to the actual existence of the United States of America and her citizenry. If securing our southern border is a difficult task, you don't just give up. One does what it takes in order to defend the nation, up to and including a Congressional Declaration of War against Mexico, and a subsequent, massive military campaign directed at altering conditions south of the border in such a manner as to remove the Mestizo demographic threat to the racial & cultural integrity of the United Sates of America (and Canada, whom we are also obligated to defend in this matter, by virtue of our shared NATO membership).
2005-03-31 15:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]While obviously quite unfortunate at a certain level, I never-the-less regard this as an excellent development. These Mestizo gangsters are talking about initiating literal acts of terrorism & guerrilla war, the likes we haven't seen in this country since about 1885 or so. That's got to have the potential to wake up some people. Hopefully the Minutemen, who already planned on being armed, will get the overwhelming advantage over these invading miscreants, which is to say, I hope the Minutemen kill each and every last one of these worthless sacks of crap that attempts to unlawfully use force against such a fine organization. [B]SHUT DOWN THE DAMN SOUTHERN BORDER ALREADY![/B][/QUOTE]
I agree with this sentiment, but you know what would happen, even if the Minutemen fired in self-defense. The "racist vigilantes" would be crucified in the press, although that may not do as much damage to the cause they're fighting for as it once might've. I mean, a quick glance at FreeRepublic shows that even that crowd, heavy with Bush-walks-on-water types, is starting to slowly realize that there's something rotten behind the GOP facade and if they can see the light, then maybe there's hope after all.
However, the MM are being hemmed into a corner with some very restrictive rules of engagement, some self-imposed. For instance, no long guns of any kind are allowed. A rule which, to me, seems darn near suicidal since the brown stubbies who are threatening them are going to be bringing AK-47s and similar hardware, assuming they show up at all. In addition, the only ones they're going to allow to go armed are licensed concealed permit holders (and retired cops or military, I assume). I don't know about you, but the last time a pistol-wielder went up against someone armed with an AK, it didn't work out too well [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16965[/url]. I really hope they have some rifles in reserve as well as the people who know how to use them effectively, otherwise it's going to be a slaughter.
Plus, the "law enforcement" down there is making sure that the MM don't put one toe out of line while they themselves ignore (and abet, in the case of politicos) the invasion. If it comes down to a gun battle, whose side does anyone here believe the "authorities" are going to be on? I am sure they will protect the Mexican invaders (even armed, violent ones) at the expense of American citizens. I hate to even put that into words, but it's a sad testament to how far we've sunk that it no longer seems impossible, but rather likely.
2005-03-31 17:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]the only ones they're going to allow to go armed are licensed concealed permit holders (and retired cops or military, I assume). [/QUOTE]
Fortunately, Arizona has the same law as Texas and Florida, i.e. its very easy to get a concealed carry permit in Arizona.
2005-03-31 17:09 | User Profile
It is the right of the American people to protect their own borders as it is my right to protect my property.
This is the kind of fire fight that I would love to be in after all we would be fighting real "terrorists" (MS-13) and not some poor defenseless illegal.
If some Americans are killed maybe then it will be the wake up call needed by the US government in order for them to take some real action and stop the incursion of illegals.
As a Cuban and Spanish I was somewhat (about 20%) a pro illegal, even if they were breaking the law, but no more. The safety of America takes priority over the lives of others.
2005-03-31 18:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]As a Cuban and Spanish I was somewhat (about 20%) a pro illegal, even if they were breaking the law, but no more. The safety of America takes priority over the lives of others.[/QUOTE]
Ponce de Leon, it's not really the Cuban "balsarros" who are the object of Americans' wrath, per se, because they are essentially fleeing political and economic persecution under a disgusting, totalitarian regime.
It's the US and Mexican governments, which encourage and protect the billions of unwanted Mestizo/Mexican trash to set up shop here for life and make it look like the Shithole that they just left behind in Mexico. These mestizo nation wreckers are the ones who draw the pented-up wrath from ordinary White Americans who are seeing the utter destruction of their country right before their very eyes. The average Mestizo, illegal or legal, is basically going to be the object of hatred although the real hatred should be directed against the government and media for enabling this entire debacle to happen in the first place.
If anything, the Minuteman Project deserves our support and encouragement. Somebody's doing something!
2005-04-01 01:42 | User Profile
As a military-oriented white guy, one of my regrets is that I was too young to have fought for the defence of white civilization, particularly for the Rhodesians or the South Africans in Namibia/SWA and Angola. I swear, I would love to have tried out for the Selous Scouts, the Rhodesian Light Infantry, the Recces, or 32 Battalion. However, if things heat up on the US/Mexico border and spread out into society, I might just get an opportunity to do so. :cowboy:
2005-04-01 02:17 | User Profile
Xmetalhead? I was also talking about those from Mexico.
Stuka, I went to Rhodesia in 76 and try to be part of the Zelous Scout but was told that I was to old (36) so instead I took a job as an observer on a light plane between Chipinga and Umtali next to the Mosan border.
I have a feeling that something will happen between Mex. and US in the future.
2005-04-01 05:48 | User Profile
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