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2005-03-01 05:04 | User Profile
Homeschooled children to work for CIA
Patrick Henry College:
Thanks to libertarian Lew Rockwell for pointing out the tragedy of Patrick Henry College in this article, Absorbed by the State. Take a couple minutes to read it and let me know what you think. Hereââ¬â¢s the part of the article where he talks about PHC:
Even homeschooling has not escaped corruption, as the nationââ¬â¢s leading college for homeschooled kids works to place smart, decent kids in the worst imaginable place: at the heart of the executive branch of government, and even the CIA.
The tragedy just overwhelms you. These kids have studied hard for many years to prepare themselves to achieve greatness, with moms and dads making enormous sacrifices. So, under the belief that greatness equals power, these kids are being sent to serve in the state apparatus to learn the main practices that government teaches its drones: to lie, deceive, manipulate, and abuse, without feelings any pangs of conscience. This can turn a good person into a lifetime cynic.*
This disturbs me greatly. I just donââ¬â¢t know what could possess a father to do this, after he has spent so much of his time and energy protecting his children from the world and the godless government. I hope that this is not representative of most Christian homeschoolers, and that there are other fathers out there who have bigger plans for their children than offering them up to the state as professional liars and hit-men (CIA) or as brick-makers for the man who would be emperor (GOP). Look, Iââ¬â¢m a post-millennial reconstructionist, so Iââ¬â¢m not one who advocates retreating from the public square. But if you really want your children to make a difference in the civil sphere, why not send them to Whitefield, where they can study Godââ¬â¢s Law? I feel sad for those who homeschool their children and then turn them over to the CIA to become fodder for the novus ordo seclorum.
[url]http://degenhart.us/blog/index.php?p=63[/url]
Absorbed By the State: [url]http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/absorbed.html[/url]
2005-03-01 05:42 | User Profile
[I]Even homeschooling has not escaped corruption, as the nationââ¬â¢s leading college for homeschooled kids works to place smart, decent kids in the worst imaginable place: at the heart of the executive branch of government, and even the CIA.[/I]
I think that's really good news.
PHC caters to the children of very devout Evangelical families. They're overwhelmingly white and Christian.
This is a pipeline directly into the heart of the power structures for these kids.
It's all good. We need more of this.
2005-03-02 14:55 | User Profile
Lemme get my mind around this one. I'll weigh in with my $.02 in a day or so. Thx. for the post, Faust. Hope you're doing well, my friend.
2005-03-02 17:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Even homeschooling has not escaped corruption, as the nationââ¬â¢s leading college for homeschooled kids works to place smart, decent kids in the worst imaginable place: at the heart of the executive branch of government, and even the CIA.
I think that's really good news.
PHC caters to the children of very devout Evangelical families. They're overwhelmingly white and Christian.
This is a pipeline directly into the heart of the power structures for these kids.
It's all good. We need more of this.[/QUOTE]I hope you mean this is good in your sense, i.e., worse is better. I personally know homeschooler families and they are perhaps the most Zionist automatons you'll ever meet. AND, some of these sheltered white girls have grown up and married blacks (to the consternation of their parents). I use to be a fan of homeschooling, but now I believe it leads to the mindless, naive, mega-dittos mindset. I grew up being taught all peoples and races are the same from a white mom who was taking black studies courses at a local college. If I hadn't been exposed to the real world I might be one of those minority-ass-kissing liberals, or worse, one of those black and hispanic-ass-kissing white Evangelical Bushie types.
What was so bad about the old way, recruiting from elite schools?
But in the long run I think it won't matter. What with a current President and adminstration effectively declaring war on 63 countries and racking up hundreds of billions of dollars of debt in endless war for endless peace. And then I read PCR's piece yesterday. Oy vey!
2005-03-03 05:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jack Cassidy]I hope you mean this is good in your sense, i.e., worse is better. [/QUOTE]
No, I mean it quite literally.
Stalin had it right: "The Cadres Determine Everything."
If you have Jews handling the levers of bureaucratic power, then you get a very pro-Jewish and anti-Christian bureaucracy. Conversely, if you have Christians running the show, you get pro-Christian policies.
I agree that their brand of Christianity leaves something to be desired by way of orthodox anti-Phariseism (though not, I would say, by way of personal uprightness), the fact remains that these are our people securing the reins of power in the United States, and not our enemies.
Look, Jack, Faust, my friends, how do you suppose the Jews took power in the first place?
Did they retreat into their own communities to contemplate their navels? Hell no, they got in there and clawed their way to the top. They pulled off victory after victory until all of our institutions were in their hands.
We must do the same. Homeschooling is a Darwinian defense mechanism by gentiles against the Jews and their Culture of Critique. It's all good. Maybe not as good as we'd like it, but it's all good.
2005-03-03 05:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]No, I mean it quite literally.
Stalin had it right: "The Cadres Determine Everything."
If you have Jews handling the levers of bureaucratic power, then you get a very pro-Jewish and anti-Christian bureaucracy. Conversely, if you have Christians running the show, you get pro-Christian policies.
I agree that their brand of Christianity leaves something to be desired by way of orthodox anti-Phariseism (though not, I would say, by way of personal uprightness), the fact remains that these are our people securing the reins of power in the United States, and not our enemies.
Look, Jack, Faust, my friends, how do you suppose the Jews took power in the first place?
Did they retreat into their own communities to contemplate their navels? Hell no, they got in there and clawed their way to the top. They pulled off victory after victory until all of our institutions were in their hands.
We must do the same. Homeschooling is a Darwinian defense mechanism by gentiles against the Jews and their Culture of Critique. It's all good. Maybe not as good as we'd like it, but it's all good.[/QUOTE] Ok, you've won me over, but it was easy given that I want to believe such things.
2005-03-03 14:40 | User Profile
New York Times March 8, 2004 College for the Home-Schooled Is Shaping Leaders for the Right By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
PURCELLVILLE, Va. ? As one of 12 siblings taught at home by their parents in St. Croix Falls, Wis., Abram Olmstead knew he would fit right in at Patrick Henry College, the first college primarily for evangelical Christian home-schoolers. But what really sold him was the school's pipeline into conservative politics.
Of the nearly 100 interns working in the White House this semester, 7 are from the roughly 240 students enrolled in the four-year-old Patrick Henry College, in Purcellville. An eighth intern works for the president's re-election campaign. A former Patrick Henry intern now works on the paid staff of the president's top political adviser, Karl Rove. Over the last four years, 22 conservative members of Congress have employed one or more Patrick Henry interns in their offices or on their campaigns, according to the school's records.
"I would definitely like to be active in the government of our country and stuff," Mr. Olmstead, 19, said as he sat in a Christian coffeehouse near the campus, looking up from a copy of Plato's "Republic." "I would love to be able to be a foreign ambassador, and I would really like to move into the Senate later in my career."
The college's knack for political job placement testifies to the increasing influence that Christian home-schooling families are building within the conservative movement. Only about half a million families around the country home-school their children and only about two-thirds identify themselves as evangelical Christians, home-schooling advocates say. But they have passionate political views, a close-knit grass-roots network and the financial support of a handful of wealthy patrons. For all those reasons, home-schoolers have captured the attention of a wide swath of conservative politicians, many of whom are eager to hire Patrick Henry students.
When President Bush signed legislation last fall banning the procedure it calls partial-birth abortion, Michael Farris, the founder of the Home School Legal Defense Association and the president of Patrick Henry, was one of just five prominent Christian conservatives invited to the Oval Office for the occasion.
Patrick Henry College is the centerpiece of an effort to extend the home-schooling movement's influence beyond education to a broad range of conservative Christian issues like opposition to abortion, same-sex marriage and obscenity in the media. The legal defense association, located on the Patrick Henry campus, established the college as a forward base camp in the culture war, with the stated goal of training home-schooled Christian men and women "who will lead our nation and shape our culture with timeless biblical values."
"We are not home-schooling our kids just so they can read," Mr. Farris said. "The most common thing I hear is parents telling me they want their kids to be on the Supreme Court. And if we put enough kids in the farm system, some may get to the major leagues."
That is an alarming prospect to some on the left.
"Mike Farris is trying to train young people to get on a very right-wing political agenda," said Nancy Keenan, the education policy director at People for the American Way, a liberal advocacy group, and a former Montana state superintendent of public education. The number of Patrick Henry interns in the White House "scares me to death," she said. "It tells us a little bit more about the White House than it does about the kids."
Mingling in the corridors of the White House and Congress is also a long way from the sense of retreat at the heart of the Christian home-schooling movement. It began in the early 1980's as a few thousand evangelical Christians began teaching their children at home in disgust at what they considered the increasingly secular, relativistic and irreligious culture ascendant around them ? exemplified by the ban on prayer, the teaching of evolution and the promotion of contraception in the public schools.
The Home School Legal Defense Association, which now counts 81,000 families each paying about $100 a year in dues, was founded in 1983 by Mr. Farris, a lawyer who had been a prot駩 of Tim LaHaye, the conservative Christian political organizer and best-selling author. Mr. Farris and his wife home-schooled their own 10 children. Like Mr. LaHaye, Mr. Farris is a novelist. He has written three legal thrillers involving conservative Christian issues. His latest, "Forbid Them Not," begins with a Democratic landslide in the 2004 elections that leads to a nightmare of laws blocking parents from spanking their children, teaching their children fundamental Christianity or schooling them at home.
Membership in the home-school association grew by more than 50 percent a year for most of its first decade, association officials said. From the outset, the association fought state regulations requiring home-schooling parents to have college or high school diplomas, to pass certification tests, or to submit to visits by professional educators or social workers. It won a long series of legislative and court victories culminating in a 1993 decision by the Michigan Supreme Court, which eliminated the final major obstacle to home schooling in any of the 50 states.
By 1994, Mr. Farris was ready to flex the association's muscles. When Representative George Miller, Democrat of California, introduced a bill requiring teachers to have certain credentials, Mr. Farris warned the association's members that home-schooling parents might face the same tests (something Mr. Miller denied). Thousands of angry home-school parents and their allies deluged Congress with so many faxes and telephone calls that it temporarily shut down the Capitol Hill telephone system.
The House ultimately voted overwhelmingly to delete the provision. "They made a big impact on people's minds that fateful day," said former Representative Dick Armey, Republican of Texas, a longtime champion of home schooling who proposed the deletion. "They got a taste of the game and found out they could be a major player."
By 1997, however, most of the association's state battles had been won and its membership growth had slowed to about 12 percent a year. Mr. Farris began looking for a new frontier. "I try to figure out how we can fix systems, so I started focusing on a bigger system," he said in an interview in February.
His answer was a college just for home-schoolers.
"Parents would ask me, Is there a school that has the Christian character I am looking for?' " Mr. Farris said. "And congressmen would ask,Mike, do you have a sharp home-schooler who can come and work for me?' "
One of the first and most significant contributors to sign on was Dr. James Leininger, a Texas physician, home-schooling parent and part-owner of the San Antonio Spurs. Dr. Leininger had made a fortune as controlling shareholder of the medical-bed manufacturer Kinetic Concepts Inc. He also owned a conservative political consulting and direct-mail business, and he had already become one of the biggest political contributors in Texas. He became known for backing Christian conservative candidates to the state's influential school board. And, as a board member of Children First America, he was also a major patron of the push for school tuition vouchers.
At a 1999 dinner in honor of George W. Bush, then the governor of Texas, held by one of Dr. Leininger's several foundations, Mr. Bush called his host "a good man and a great Texan," The Dallas Morning News reported.
Dr. Leininger did not respond to calls for comment.
"Jim has been a very good and very faithful friend to the college," said Jack W. Haye, chairman of its board and a Texas executive of the Wells Fargo Bank. Other trustees include Janet Ashcroft, wife of Attorney General John Ashcroft.
The board helped establish a 106-acre campus with six red brick buildings on rolling green hills.
Thanks to the generosity of its donors, Patrick Henry operates with no debt, eschews federal financial support and charges about $15,000 per student a year for tuition, about $10,000 less than some comparable small colleges. The average SAT score is about 1320, roughly comparable to Notre Dame or the University of Virginia.
About two-thirds of the students major in government. It is one of the few schools that offer a special program in intelligence and foreign affairs.
Now Mr. Farris is trying to enlist even younger students in Christian conservative politics. He estimates that there are more than two million home-schooling children in the country, or more than the number of children attending New Jersey public schools, and in February he sent a letter encouraging home-schooling families to enroll their children in Generation Joshua, a new hands-on civics program for home-schooled teenagers. Participants will learn about government by helping conservative churches get voters to the polls and by volunteering for the campaigns of like-minded conservative politicians, he said.
"Home-school teens could become one of the most powerful forces in American politics, rivaling the labor unions in effectiveness," Mr. Farris wrote, adding, "The best way to train the leaders of tomorrow is to have our young people help to elect the leaders of today."
2005-03-03 15:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis][I]Even homeschooling has not escaped corruption, as the nationââ¬â¢s leading college for homeschooled kids works to place smart, decent kids in the worst imaginable place: at the heart of the executive branch of government, and even the CIA.[/I]
I think that's really good news.
PHC caters to the children of very devout Evangelical families. They're overwhelmingly white and Christian.
This is a pipeline directly into the heart of the power structures for these kids.
It's all good. We need more of this.[/QUOTE] We've got too many Zionist Christian Rapture Bunnies in positions of power as it is.
This'll push us that much faster to Armegedon; so if that's what you are aiming for, then, yes, this is a "good" thing.
2005-03-03 16:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w]We've got too many Zionist Christian Rapture Bunnies in positions of power as it is.[/QUOTE]
That brings up a good question. If you had to choose between being ruled by a white, Christian, fundamentalist "rapture bunny" or an intelligent, non-religious, secular and moderate jew, which would you choose?
2005-03-03 17:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]That brings up a good question. If you had to choose between being ruled by a white, Christian, fundamentalist "rapture bunny" or an intelligent, non-religious, secular and moderate jew, which would you choose?[/QUOTE]
I'll take Fidel Castro over anyone using the word Jew any day of the week.
2005-03-03 18:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]I'll take Fidel Castro over anyone using the word Jew any day of the week.[/QUOTE]
Many say that Tio Fidel is jewish.
Irregardless of that, how an anti-Christian Zionist white nationalist answers my question will show how seriously and strict they take their avowed racialism.
2005-03-03 18:50 | User Profile
Is this what these poor sheltered Homeschooled White Christian girls will end up doing?
QUOTEFemale interrogators tried to break Muslim detainees at the U.S. prison camp in Guantanamo Bay by sexual touching, wearing a miniskirt and thong underwear and in one case smearing a Saudi man's face with fake menstrual blood, according to an insider's written account... One female civilian contractor used a special outfit that included a miniskirt, thong underwear and a bra during late-night interrogations with prisoners, mostly Muslim men who consider it taboo to have close contact with women who aren't their wives. Beginning in April 2003, "there hung a short skirt and thong underwear on the hook on the back of the door" of one interrogation team's office, he writes. "Later I learned that this outfit was used for interrogations by one of the female civilian contractors ... on a team which conducted interrogations in the middle of the night on Saudi men who were refusing to talk." Some Guantanamo prisoners who have been released say they were tormented by "prostitutes."... The female interrogator wanted to "break him," Saar adds, describing how she removed her uniform top to expose a tight-fitting T-shirt and began taunting the detainee, touching her breasts, rubbing them against the prisoner's back and commenting on his apparent erection... "She then started to place her hands in her pants as she walked behind the detainee," he says. "As she circled around him he could see that she was taking her hand out of her pants. When it became visible the detainee saw what appeared to be red blood on her hand.
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2005-03-03 19:07 | User Profile
Texas Dissident,
First of all I don't think of myself as a "White Nationalist," I am just an old Conservative, but the Churches are corrupt too... how do we solve that problem... what good does it do us to have a corrupt church take over a corrupt government...? The churches can not even seen to make an attack on Forication and Sodomy a good part of the time. If the Churches are for alien immigration and miscegenation they are as much a part of the problem as our government.
I will always defend the Morals of Christendom, but the Churches are just a mess as are the "Christians" who come out of them.
2005-03-03 19:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]That brings up a good question. If you had to choose between being ruled by a white, Christian, fundamentalist "rapture bunny" or an intelligent, non-religious, secular and moderate jew, which would you choose?[/QUOTE]I'd have to go with the former without question Tex. The lesson of the The Passion should be good enough evidence here, were even Zionnut Evangelicals did not back down from supporting the film despite the full-force of the Jewish progaganda machine onslaught. Plus, I think we know that the intelligentsia of the Evangelicals are, without exception, critical of Christian Zionism and the BS dispensationalist theology from whence it comes, and this will eventualy win out as it makes its way down through the middle ranks and finally into the mindless ranks. And maybe if good minds are produced from these Christian Zionist fundamentalist homeschools, they will continue to learn and will eventually see the bankruptcy of dispensationalism/Christian Zionism. The case of Evangelical Protestant biblical scholar, Robert Gundry, comes to mind. As Gundry relates:
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[font=Times New Roman][size=3]I enrolled in a college. It was Christian. ...[B]ut somehow the suspicion grew on me that their teaching on this topic didn't sit so easily with biblical texts as their other teaching did. So I decided to erase from my mind as far as was humanly possible everything I'd heard and read about the second coming, to read through the entire New Testament afresh, pay special attention to passages dealing with the tribulation and Jesus' return, and see what first impressions might be. They were that He is not said to return [font=Times New Roman][size=3]before the tribulation, but only afterwards.[/size][/font][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][font=Times New Roman][size=3][/size][/font][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][font=Times New Roman][size=3][/size][/font][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][font=Times New Roman][size=3]Robert Gundry. First the Antichrist: A Book for Lay Christians Approaching the Third Millennium and Inquiring Whether Jesus Will Come to Take the Church Out of the World Before the Tribulation (Grand Rapids, Mich.; Baker, 1997), 15-16.[/size][/font][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][font=Times New Roman][size=3][/size][/font][/size][/font] |
2005-03-03 22:02 | User Profile
Tex? it was his great grandmother on his father's side which means (as far as I am concern) that it dosen't make him a Jew because it was not from his mother side of the family, as you know you can be a "real" Jew only if you mother is a Jew.
By the way, this was found out by the Jews themselves in order to try and get some kind of hold on Fidel, I would like to point out that at the beginning of the revolucion there were around 5,000 of those people in cuba and now there are still about 2,000 of them......I believe that 3,000 were emigrated to the state of Israel by Castro, 2,000 more to go and then Cuba will be cleanse out.
The Zionist will risk their lives if they try anything in Cuba after the fall of Castro, Cuba is not like America when it comes to dealing with criminals for they simply disappear.
2005-03-04 04:09 | User Profile
Jack Cassidy,
I do not meet many of these "Zionnut Evangelicals." I think this has taken over the leadership of many churches more than the member at large. I think most them are far more worried about prtecting their children from the onslaught of Fornication and the pro-Sodomite movement. And for the most part they are more rightist in their views on immigration and miscegenation than most people. Sadly the Neocons has used the new anti-Arab War to use these people. But remember it was "Culture War" that gave Bushie 4 more years not his Arab killing.
2005-03-04 08:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]That brings up a good question. If you had to choose between being ruled by a white, Christian, fundamentalist "rapture bunny" or an intelligent, non-religious, secular and moderate jew, which would you choose?[/QUOTE]
Rapture Bunny.
A Rapture Bunny can be reformed and made fully your friend
A Jew - even the best intentioned - is always the enemy of the Gospel. I've come to believe that a Jew can never really be a loyal American. It's a hard truth, but it's the way it is.
2005-03-04 08:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w]We've got too many Zionist Christian Rapture Bunnies in positions of power as it is.
This'll push us that much faster to Armegedon; so if that's what you are aiming for, then, yes, this is a "good" thing.[/QUOTE]
Worse is better.
It wouldn't take much for the Rapture Bunnies (I love the term!) to see the light and turn on the Yahoodis.
A lost war on behalf of Israel might just do the trick.
It's all good.
2005-03-04 11:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]That brings up a good question. If you had to choose between being ruled by a white, Christian, fundamentalist "rapture bunny" or an intelligent, non-religious, secular and moderate jew, which would you choose?[/QUOTE] Darn good question.
Assuming suicide was not the third choice, it might depend whether the question of "rule" was chiefly over questions of internal policy, or foreign policy. Or maybe not.
I'd probably find the more conservative social values of the Christian more congenial, but I'd be fearful of "moral crusades" like Prohibition ending in disaster; and in foreign policy, I'd be fearful of pretty much the mess we have now. Nothing makes it easier to get into a mess than thinking you are doing "the Lord's work". Exhibit Bush the Lesser by way of example. Of course under Bush the Lesser, we don't really have social conservatism.
As for the secular moderate Jew, that would depend on how honest he was in his alleged views, and how much they were simply a cover for Jewish group interests. If the secularism didn't degenerate into a war on Christianity per se, and if the foreign policy were honest and didn't get us involved in the middle east on behalf on Israel, I would find it preferable, but I don't think that would be likely.
It's a remarkably horrible "choice", so I refuse to choose!
Edit: okay, since looking at this it looks like I am "dodging" the question - even though I think it is a trick question - I would have to choose the white Christian under the theory that he can be reformed.
But that's only a theory; we haven't yet put it to the test, and I think you folks are underestimating the sheer stubbornness and stupidity of these people, and their usefulness to Jews which has allowed them (Christian Zionists) to come to prominence in the first place.
My fear is that in fact we will "choose" the Christian Zionists, they will get us into trouble, and that rather than "reforming" themselves, the Jews will shift the blame to the Christian Zionists, and cast them aside and put something else in their place.
It's their (Jews) standard operating procedure. These folks simply will not take the blame for anything. It's always someone else's fault, even when they are doing the Jews bidding.
So by the time the Christian Zionist Rapture Bunnies see the error of their ways, it may already be too late.
2005-03-04 11:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Many say that Tio Fidel is jewish.
Irregardless of that, how an anti-Christian Zionist white nationalist answers my question will show how seriously and strict they take their avowed racialism.[/QUOTE] Since the Christian Zionist "Rapture Bunny" is by definition a Zionist, pro-Jew Tool, it's really a trick question.
No matter which "lesser of two evils" you choose, you really get the same thing.
So it's a false choice.
Edit: I should also add, the "moderate secular Jew" is also a false choice, since in order to be acceptable to a White Nationalist, he'd have to be a genuinely secular Jew, and act that way (in other words, he'd have to actually act in ways contrary to Jewish interests), which would make him a non-Jew to other Jews.
Likewise, the Christian Zionist is really a proxy Jew. He acts in ways that serves Jews, regardless of his actual "identity".
So the question is: do you prefer a real Jew who acts like a non-Jew, or do you prefer a non-Jew who acts like a Jew?
Silly question.
2005-03-04 11:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Jack Cassidy,
I do not meet many of these "Zionnut Evangelicals." I think this has taken over the leadership of many churches more than the member at large. I think most them are far more worried about prtecting their children from the onslaught of Fornication and the pro-Sodomite movement. And for the most part they are more rightist in their views on immigration and miscegenation than most people. Sadly the Neocons has used the new anti-Arab War to use these people. But remember it was "Culture War" that gave Bushie 4 more years not his Arab killing.[/QUOTE]Well, I know quite a few home schoolers, including "Jews for Jesus" types.
Number one reason they give me for voting for Bush: he's against abortion. I didn't mention to them that if it were simply a matter of preventing the killing of innocents, the Iraq war so far has killed more innocents under Bush's first term than all the aborted children killed in the USA in the same period.
No point going that route, though, since they don't believe Arabs can be "innocent" and they are all rabidly Zionist.
I've seen some of the home schooling material, from a Christian perspective, it is militantly "anti-racist" and pro-"diversity". I think you guys are reading too much into people's overall conservative tendencies, and ignoring the actual indoctrination they are imbibing.
You may be surprised when push comes to shove, and not in a good way.
2005-03-04 11:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Rapture Bunny.
A Rapture Bunny can be reformed and made fully your friend
A Jew - even the best intentioned - is always the enemy of the Gospel. I've come to believe that a Jew can never really be a loyal American. It's a hard truth, but it's the way it is.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree.
I just don't think people realize how hard it is going to be to "reform" these people.
2005-03-04 11:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Worse is better.
It wouldn't take much for the Rapture Bunnies (I love the term!) to see the light and turn on the Yahoodis.
A lost war on behalf of Israel might just do the trick.
It's all good.[/QUOTE] Yikes.
No, it's not all good. In the long run you may be right, but we will pay a frightful price in order to educate the "Rapture Bunnies".
It may happen, but it won't be "good", only "better than the alternative".
2005-03-04 12:14 | User Profile
Lotta crawfishin', grep. :lol:
Just kiddin' ya. Seriously, my only point with that is to show the doctrinaire racialists that there are some things higher than race. They may only be exceptions to the general tendencies, but I think the point remains a valid one to consider.
With regard to the question, I agree with Jack's excellent comments above.
2005-03-04 12:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Lotta crawfishin', grep. :lol:
Just kiddin' ya. Seriously, my only point with that is to show the doctrinaire racialists that there are some things higher than race. They may only be exceptions to the general tendencies, but I think the point remains a valid one to consider.
With regard to the question, I agree with Jack's excellent comments above.[/QUOTE] Depends what you mean by "race"; I've always understood it to be as much a moral and spiritual matter as a matter of pure biology. It's not an accident that the antiracists promote the idea that race is merely about things like skin color; "racialists" who fall for this, or only go beyond it by focusing on other merely physical, genetic traits, miss the point that these things are part of a "complete package" and not merely part of a grab bag of unrelated items.
As to "Jack"? If it is the "worse the better" line of thinking I am not sure I agree....some people said back before WWII, "well, the Jews are bound to overstep their bounds and go too far; the worse the better, we'll pick up the pieces when they screw up".
Tens of millions of dead white people later, the Jews were in absolute control over all the strategic focal points of Western societies, and expanding their power.
"Worse is better" thinking didn't pan out.
Worse may not be better....if everything of value is destroyed, and there is no one recognizeably of our kin left behind to rebuild, then it will be over for our kind. Period. End of story. No "reform". No "reeducating the Rapture Bunnies". Nothing.
That's not "better", and it's not an impossible outcome, either.
As long as Jews control the media and similar "authority generating" mechanisms, it will be they who will tell our people what to think and what to believe, and thus, it won't matter how many homeschooled "Rapture Bunnies" manage to slither their way into Inside The Beltway sinecures, where they will either learn to obey the agenda, or leave.
Things can change, though, but we await events that we can't predict. Fortunately, history zig-zags; it doesn't head in the same direction indefinitely.
2005-03-04 14:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Rapture Bunny.
A Rapture Bunny can be reformed and made fully your friend
A Jew - even the best intentioned - is always the enemy of the Gospel. I've come to believe that a Jew can never really be a loyal American. It's a hard truth, but it's the way it is.[/QUOTE]
You got it Walter, you can put a monkey in a tux but it remains a monkey.
2005-03-04 15:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE]As for the secular moderate Jew, that would depend on how honest he was in his alleged views, and [/QUOTE]
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! The words "Jew" and "honest" in the same sentence???
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2005-03-04 19:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE]I do not meet many of these "Zionnut Evangelicals." I think this has taken over the leadership of many churches more than the member at large.[/QUOTE] There are plenty of them around here, though they may be more prevalent in Oklahoma and East Texas.
2005-03-04 19:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE]A Rapture Bunny can be reformed and made fully your friend[/QUOTE] I agree -- a rapture bunny.