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Thread ID: 17016 | Posts: 15 | Started: 2005-02-28
2005-02-28 14:42 | User Profile
David Horowitz has a new site to help Americans keep up with the Leftist enemies of our great democracy. (and in passing, Israel's too) The site is being built and doesn't include rightwing extremists, but in due time I expect to see Buchanan and Taki listed as well. For the moment we'll have to do with Justin Raimondo.
Davy has really put together an outstanding team of some of the finest investigative journalists in the country. Here, you can read the likes of Jonah Goldberg, Jamie Glazov, and or course, our old favorite, Steven ("Comrade Sandino") Schwartz. Worth checking out just for the number of leftwing Jews listed.
Recommended by no less than Neal Boortz.
[url]http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/default.asp[/url]
I was really impressed with the smear- er, exposure of Prof. Juan Cole.
[The above was written with a great deal of sarcasm.]
2005-02-28 15:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius] Recommended by no less than Neal Boortz.[/QUOTE] Arrrgg! You mentioned that name again! It burns! It burns!
2005-02-28 16:22 | User Profile
Sertorius
What silly website Davy Horowitz has puts up... attacking "America hating Leftists" well that is what I call the pot calling the kettle black.
He is upset that Rashid Khalidi said:
ââ¬ÅThe United States itself helped to foster some of the radical-extremist Islamic tendencies that gave rise to [9/11].ââ¬Â
Can any disagree with this?
2005-02-28 16:50 | User Profile
I wonder why he is on the list?
[QUOTE]MORRIS DEES
* Founder and chief trial lawyer of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)
* Exaggerates the prevalence and capabilities of rightwing racist and extremist groups operating in the United States in order to frighten supporters into donating money to the SPLC
* Earns considerably more money than the leaders of most non-profit organizations
The founder and chief trial lawyer of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Morris Seligman Dees was born into a Shorter, Alabama farming family in 1936. At the age of nineteen, he was named the Star Farmer of Alabama by the Alabama Future Farmers of America. As an undergraduate at the University of Alabama, Dees founded a direct mail order sales company, Fuller & Dees Marketing Group, which prospered into one of the largest publishing firms in the South. After founding the SPLC in 1971 with Joseph Levin and Julian Bond, Dees presided over a number of high-profile legal victories against hate and extremist groups, propelling the so-called ââ¬Åcivil rights law firmââ¬Â into the national spotlight.
Despite this winning resume, Morris Deesââ¬â¢ commitment to civil rights remains the subject of heated debate. Deesââ¬â¢ own account, related in his 1991 autobiography A Season for Justice, of his abrupt transformation from flourishing entrepreneur to civil rights activist, following a ââ¬Ånight of soul searching at a snowed-in Cincinnati airport,ââ¬Â has left many unconvinced about the depth of his passion for civil rights. Skeptics charge that the now-famous trial lawyer is motivated less by a devotion to justice than a pursuit of profit. Many further contend that, under Deesââ¬â¢ stewardship, the SPLC has evolved into an elaborate extortion racket, concerned first and foremost with padding the salaries of its directorial echelon.
Conferring authority to such allegations are several controversial comments Dees has made in the past. Asked about his knack for generating revenue, Dees once boasted, ââ¬ÅI learned everything I know about hustling from the Baptist Church. Spending Sundays on those hard benches listening to the preacher pitch salvation ââ¬â why, it was like getting a Ph.D. in selling.ââ¬Â
Dees is also alleged to be the architect of one of the SPLCââ¬â¢s most effectiveââ¬âand most controversialââ¬âtactics: exaggerating the prevalence and capabilities of racist and extremist groups operating in the United States in order to frighten supporters into donating money to the SPLC. What is more, many critics charge, this fundraising revenue, instead of bankrolling the SPLCââ¬â¢s civil rights work, is funneled into the salaries of SPLC officers like Dees. Several studies conducted in the 1990s indicate that the Dees and other top SPLC figures earn significantly higher salaries than the leaders of most non-profit organizations. When seen next to the SPLCââ¬â¢s curious spending habitsââ¬âthe Center perennially disburses twice as much on fundraising as it does on legal services, while skimming off substantial amounts of revenue for its personal endowmentââ¬âDeesââ¬â¢ income has provoked accusations of fraud against the SPLCââ¬â¢s founder. Stephen Bright, a director of the Southern Center for Human Rights, a leftwing Atlanta-based group that opposes the death penalty, put it bluntly in a 1996 letter to Dees, in which he denounced Dees as a ââ¬Åa fraud and a conman,ââ¬Â and upbraided Dees because ââ¬Åyou spend so much, accomplish so little, and promote yourself shamelessly.ââ¬Â
The charge of self-promotion is one that Dees has not gone out of his way to dodge. A longtime leftwing activist, Dees sought out prominent roles as a finance director for Democratic Senator George McGovernââ¬â¢s 1972 Presidential campaign; a national finance director for President Jimmy Carter in 1976; and a national finance chairman for Senator Ted Kennedy during his1980 Presidential bid. In addition, Dees has courted the admiration of his supporters, touring college campuses around the United States and collecting, according to his SPLC biography, ââ¬Åat least 25 honorary degrees.ââ¬Â After the SPLC won a much-ballyhooed settlement against the Ku Klax Klanââ¬âa case that earned Dees $350,000ââ¬âDeesââ¬â¢ life became the plot of a doting TV movie, 1991ââ¬â¢s Line of Fire: The Morris Dees Story, with Dees played by the actor Corbin Bernson. In 1996 Dees wrote, along with reporter James Corcoran, Gathering Storm: Americaââ¬â¢s Militia Threat. This book, which charted the activities of radical militias in the United States, drew special attention to a supposedly prescient letter Dees wrote to then-Attorney General Janet Reno six months prior to the Oklahoma City bombing. In the letter, Dees cautioned in the most general terms that a ââ¬Åmixture of armed groups and those who hate is a recipe for disaster.ââ¬Â
Dees was once again in the spotlight in the fall of 2000, when he narrated an HBO documentary, titled Hate.com, about extremism in America. But critics noted that while Dees and the SPLC regularly condemn rightwing extremist and nationalist groups, they consistently fail to apply similar scrutiny to leftwing hate groups.
[url]http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1809[/url] [/QUOTE]
2005-02-28 17:00 | User Profile
Faust,
I suppose due to this:
[QUOTE]The charge of self-promotion is one that Dees has not gone out of his way to dodge. A longtime leftwing activist, Dees sought out prominent roles as a finance director for Democratic Senator George McGovernââ¬â¢s 1972 Presidential campaign; a national finance director for President Jimmy Carter in 1976; and a national finance chairman for Senator Ted Kennedy during his1980 Presidential bid.[/QUOTE]
McGovern and Carter have said things concerning the Middle East that Davy wouldn't like and besides, Dee's antics are becoming increasingly known.
The section about illegal immigration was amusing. They could fill that with some prominient neocons.
2005-02-28 19:15 | User Profile
David Horowitz's working definitions:
"America Hater" - Somebody who criticizes US foreign policy today for whatever reason, now that US foreign policy is in sync with Jewish and Israeli interests.
"All American Patriot" - Somebody (like David Horowitz) who attacked US foreign policy back when the US was fighting against Communists in places like Latin America and Southeast Asia, places that had nothing to do with the Israel's security and well-being, but who change their tune and turn on a dime when Israel's interests are on the line.
2005-02-28 20:10 | User Profile
Q,
He's a big Horowitz fan. He had him on one time and told him that he used to be a member of the SDS. I wasn't aware Texas A&M had a chapter. I'd love for him to explain that one. BTW, both Boortz and Hannity are life members of the NAACP and who knows, maybe the ADL as well.
2005-03-03 03:18 | User Profile
When I was bored I used to visit the discussion board at Horowitz's site, FrontPageMagazine.com, just to piss off the Neocons & Israel Firsters there. It was fun and their behavior provided some insight into how these folks think (or don't, as the case may be). Honestly, I don't see how Horowitz & Co. differ from the Left in any meaningful way.
2005-03-03 17:36 | User Profile
Stuka,
The truth is spoken! [QUOTE]Honestly, I don't see how Horowitz & Co. differ from the Left in any meaningful way.[/QUOTE]
2005-03-12 23:09 | User Profile
[url=http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38bdbf84354d.htm]Horowitz appears on FR's "Town Hall"[/url] ... reveille for neocon radicals.
2005-03-13 01:09 | User Profile
Assuming this is straight up "Justin Raimondo" asks David a question:
To: david horowitz
From Justin Raimondo:
Two questions for David Horowitz: Why are you running articles on your "Frontpage" site smearing Pat Buchanan as an anti-Semite -- not only Podhoretz's smear but also a ridiculous piece comparing him to some 19th century Mayor of Vienna, for godssake?
I'm glad you mentioned the Committee for a Non-Liberal Majority, Iron Jack. Whatever happened with that, David? It was announced to the sound of trumpets, and now suddenly the website seems to have been down for many months, and we see no more mention of it anywhere? What happened to all the contributions, if any, that were supposed to go to fund TV ads?
26 Posted on 03/01/2000 18:33:16 PST by IronJack [ Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | Top | Last ]
Horowitz's devasting response:
To: IronJack
I have no interest in this life in discussing anything with you.
28 Posted on 03/01/2000 18:35:32 PST by david horowitz [ Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | Top | Last ]
Sheer intellectual brilliance!
2005-03-16 06:33 | User Profile
Well, this clears up a lot of questions regarding the why and why-now of "Discover the Network".....
[QUOTE]Dear Spider,
I’m writing to introduce you to one our most powerful projects ever, DiscoverTheNetwork.org ([url]www.discoverthenetwork.org[/url]), and thank you for helping us take this important project from an idea to a reality!
Spider, your past support of CSPC efforts tells me you fully understand that there is a Fifth Column in America, an enemy within. The Center’s mission has always been to cut through the mainstream media bias and the flow of misinformation about the elements of this enemy and give the American people the facts.
That is precisely what DiscoverTheNetwork.org does.
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You will find a host of features that shed light on the subtle and not so subtle relationships between Americans in Hollywood, let’s say, and those who wish us harm in the radical Islamic community.
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We estimate that 500,000 people from 50 nations around the world will check out DiscoverTheNetwork.org. within its first month of operation. Our immediate success and high quality of info rmation was quickly noted by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other conservative voices who share in our belief that the radical “hate America left” must be exposed! More telling, though, have been the responses we’ve received from leftists like former Clinton strategist Paul Begala. So outraged by our handywork was Begala, who once compared red state voters to Nazis and racists, that during his closing remarks on an edition of Crossfire, he said:
[I]“…Conservative activist David Horowitz has a new website with photographs of 72 people, ranging from terrorists to Congressmen, as if somehow they’re all linked in a vast left-wing conspiracy call, get this, ‘the network.’…The right-wing has gone stark-raving mad…”[/I]
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But there remains a lot of work to do. [B]So I’m writing today to ask you to support DiscoverTheNetwork.org by making a contribution of $25, $50, $100, $500, or even more [COLOR=Red]right now[/COLOR].[/B] Simply go to one of the special Discover the Network.org links provided throughout this e-mail and make a credit card contribution today.
I need your continued support to build on our momentum and expand our website, to maintain our vigilant watch of the anti-American left. DiscoverTheNetwork.org is one of the most vital projects you and I have ever worked on and we’re off to a tremendous start. I trust you’ll see how vital it is that we not stop and rest on our laurels. May God bless you and our great nation.
Sincerely, David Horowitz, President & Founder
P.S. DiscoverTheNetwork.org is gaining national attention because it’s giving Americans access to information about the Fifth Column, the anti-American left that truly is our enemy within. Our success is a credit to your foresight and courage. Please help us continue to grow and expand our work [COLOR=Red][B]right now![/B][/COLOR] Thanks again. [/QUOTE]
Edward Bernays, please say hello to P.T. Barnum; you already [I]know [/I] Roy Cohn.
2005-03-16 07:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Some -- like the ââ¬Ë60s radicals -- are actually on record in support of our enemies![/QUOTE] Yes, like Horowitz himself!
2005-03-16 09:38 | User Profile
I chanced across this anti-Whorowitz blog yesterday:
[url]http://horowitzwatch.blogspot.com/[/url]
It's from a pretty left-wing perspective, but don't let that spoil it for you.
2005-03-25 03:19 | User Profile
Courtesy of Davy's dingbats. [url]http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/moonbatcentral/2005/03/antiwarcoms-allies.html[/url]