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Thread ID: 16988 | Posts: 8 | Started: 2005-02-26
2005-02-26 21:13 | User Profile
[url]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=558&ncid=703&e=10&u=/ap/20050226/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_ten_commandments[/url] I want to know who is funding the legal actions to push these ? I smell ADL involvement.
As i suspected, check out the link on that page to the supreme court docket...i see listings like the following: American Jewish Congress Anti-Defamation League Freedom From Religion Foundation Atheist Law Center Hindu American Foundation American Atheists
Many conservatives warn that if the states lose, the ruling would force the removal of similar objects from memorials and public spaces across America.
The average joo would like nothing better.
DAMN IT
2005-02-26 21:30 | User Profile
The courts have already set the precedent to ban Christianity and anything that is not hostile to Christianity. When you see a court rule against even voluntary school use of the pledge of allegiance because of the word "God" in it or when you see a court ban public schools from telling students that the "Theory of Evolution" is a theory because that's being done in the interest of those who do not believe Evolution, you are seeing courts just following what already is the law of the land.
I don't know the number of anti-Christian, anti-God lawsuits the ACLU files every year, but I'm sure they win most of the time, even without needing to wait for a court ruling. In 21st century America, where Atheism is the state religion, we're seeing the vestages of an old America, when the nation wasn't hostile to Christiantiy, being mopped up.
Religion makes individuals a community. Chrisitanity makes whites a community. Without community, there is nothing occidental to preserve.
2005-02-26 22:47 | User Profile
At the same time, we have public schools teaching Jewish religious doctrine, such as the Holocaust Story. This sort of instruction needs to be challenged in court. In that regard, it is not necessary to disprove any elements of the story, as truth/falsity is irrelevant to whether something is a religious belief.
2005-02-26 23:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Happy Hacker]... Religion makes individuals a community. Chrisitanity makes whites a community. Without community, there is nothing occidental to preserve.[/QUOTE] Right on target Happy Hacker! If only we could get the majority of our White Brothers and Sisters to understand this. In the end... it will be us White Christians that finally deal with the "children of Satan."
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2005-02-26 23:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Happy Hacker]The courts have already set the precedent to ban Christianity and anything that is not hostile to Christianity. When you see a court rule against even voluntary school use of the pledge of allegiance because of the word "God" in it or when you see a court ban public schools from telling students that the "Theory of Evolution" is a theory because that's being done in the interest of those who do not believe Evolution, you are seeing courts just following what already is the law of the land.
While I think you're overstating the case somewhat, there is certainly some hostility to public expression of Christianity in the US. That's due more to Jewish influence than anything else. Some atheists are militant, but most in my experience are not. This agnostic really couldn't care less what religions people practice in public. As long as it doesn't affect me, why should I be bothered about it?
What's ironic, however, is that US foreign policy, particularly in the Middle East, is based on one particular form of Christianity (or pseudo-Christianity, if you prefer): dispensationalism.
(By the way, evolution is indeed a theory, so no one should be prevented from pointing that out. It is a theory in the same sense that the atomic theory of matter is a theory, or the germ theory of disease is a theory. To say that something is a "theory" does not imply that it is uncertain.)
I don't know the number of anti-Christian, anti-God lawsuits the ACLU files every year, but I'm sure they win most of the time, even without needing to wait for a court ruling. In 21st century America, where Atheism is the state religion, we're seeing the vestages of an old America, when the nation wasn't hostile to Christiantiy, being mopped up. I disagree. American is overwhelmingly Christian, and politicians exploit this routinely. George Bush often mentions God in his speeches when promoting his neocon foreign policy. Past presidents -- even "liberal" ones like Clinton -- have similarly used God to appeal to constituents. Examples of this abound.
All in all, it's scarcely an exaggeration to say that America is unofficially a Christian nation. I don't see how Christianity could come to dominate America much more than it already has.
Religion makes individuals a community. Chrisitanity makes whites a community. Without community, there is nothing occidental to preserve.[/QUOTE]I would say that genes make whites a community. Religion has nothing to do with it in my opinion. The Odin-worshipping Vikings were every bit as white as we are. On the other hand, there are countless Negroes and Mexicans in the US who are Christian.
2005-02-26 23:40 | User Profile
The Jews themselves gave us the ten commandments and yet there were supposed to be fifteen and and now they even want to take those ten away from the church and probably give us ten new ones, more suited to their new agenda.
As a non religious person but talking for those who cannot I say the word of God is the word of God and should for ever be the same for God himself is for ever.
I know that The Bible is missing a lot that the church and other are hiding from the layman but that wich we know should NEVER BE CHANGED not even a comma.
To me the "original" Bible should be published once again and let it be as is, if the power to be wants to interprete The Bible in different ways then let them do so, but not the written words.
2005-02-27 00:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]What's ironic, however, is that US foreign policy, particularly in the Middle East, is based on one particular form of Christianity (or pseudo-Christianity, if you prefer): dispensationalism.
That is ironic. But, it can be explained dispensationalism being in jewish and Israeli interests when it comes to mid-east policy.
(By the way, evolution is indeed a theory, so no one should be prevented from pointing that out. It is a theory in the same sense that the atomic theory of matter is a theory, or the germ theory of disease is a theory. To say that something is a "theory" does not imply that it is uncertain.)
The science teachers in the district in question are free to explain the meaning of the word theory to the students. You might even think think it the duty of a science teacher to explain the meaning of "theory." BTW, electron micoscopes allow atoms to be observed but real Evolution has never been observed. And, there's no effort to ban criticism of germ theory from the science classroom.
I disagree. American is overwhelmingly Christian, and politicians exploit this routinely. George Bush often mentions God in his speeches when promoting his neocon foreign policy. Past presidents -- even "liberal" ones like Clinton -- have similarly used God to appeal to constituents. Examples of this abound.
You are correct about politicians exploiting religion. But, this is nothing more than rhetoric and it is usually very generic (non-sectarian) in regards to religion. It ironically facilitates the attacks on Christinity by fooling the people into thinking the president wants to protect their interests.
All in all, it's scarcely an exaggeration to say that America is unofficially a Christian nation. I don't see how Christianity could come to dominate America much more than it already has.
I think you're being disingenuous. You can look into the past and see a nation far more Christian than it is now. Examples abound of the modern American government being hostile to Christianity. I had just provided two in the post you're responding to.
I would say that genes make whites a community. Religion has nothing to do with it in my opinion. The Odin-worshipping Vikings were every bit as white as we are. On the other hand, there are countless Negroes and Mexicans in the US who are Christian.[/QUOTE]
Hispanics, blacks, and whites all attend segregated churches out of their sense of community. Jews have perserved themselves through judaism over hundreds of years of dispersion. Arabs are united by Islam.
Whites without religion, pagans, don't have enough children.
It's true that there has been churches that seek to bring non-whites to America. But, in the past, this was small. And, it pales to the efforts by white pagans to flood America with millions of non-whites and to force the governmetn to welcome anyone that can get across the border.
2005-02-27 02:52 | User Profile
fellas, the whole point of my post was to point out just who is behind the legal mumbo jumbo. i dont think its a stretch to say that most of us here are not suprised, correct ? in that regard, there are those we know who should be shown this information. these are the so-called "judeo-christian" types who think that isreal and its supporters can do no wrong. if you have absolutely none where you live, none in your family, or know not anyone like this, then tell me where you live, and i will be packing the uhaul tomorrow.