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Thread ID: 16914 | Posts: 9 | Started: 2005-02-23
2005-02-23 15:07 | User Profile
VATICAN CITY (AFP) - A new book by Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II to be published in Italy next Wednesday in which he likens abortion to a new Holocaust has outraged Jewish groups appalled by what they say is a lack of understanding on the part of the Catholic Church.
The comparison is highlighted in a passage of the 84-year-old pontiff's fifth book, "Memory and Identity", a volume of reflections on ideological conflicts of the 20th century released to Italian newspapers ahead of its publication here next Wednesday.
The president of the Central Council for Jews in Germany, Paul Spiegel, attacked the passage in which the pontiff links abortion to the mass extermination of six million Jews by Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime.
Alluding to a similar link made by German Cardinal Joachim Meisner in January, Spiegel said it was an unacceptable comparison".
It showed that "the Catholic Church does not understand or does not want to understand that there is an enormous difference between mass genocide and what women do with their bodies".
In the passage which has so offended Jewish groups, the pope begins by saying that "anti-Gospel is the new form of totalitarianism" and that this new totalitarianism is "insidiously hidden behind the appearance of democracy".
"It was a legally elected parliament which allowed the election of Hitler in Germany in the 30s. The same Reichstag gave Hitler the power which opened the way for the political invasion of Europe, the creation of concentration camps, the introcution of the so-called 'final solution' to the Jewish question which led to the extermination of millions of sons and daugthers of Israel."
The pope adds that, just as in the past, there is a need to question the legislation of parliaments which are the product of contemporary democracy.
"The most immediate association of ideas which comes to mind are the laws on abortion. Parliaments which create and promulgate such laws must be conscious that they are abusing their power and remain in open conflict with the law of God".
In January, Cologne Cardinal Joachim Meisner said in a sermon in the western German city's cathedral that "first there was Herod, who ordered the children of Bethlehem to be killed, then there was Hitler and Stalin among others, and today unborn children are being killed in their millions".
The pope's fifth book, published despite his recent ill health, reiterates the themes of his March 1995 encyclical Evangelium Vitae in which he condemns abortion, euthanasia and genetic manipulation.
It will be published by Italian company Rizzioli, publishers of the best-selling newspaper Corriere della Sera, next Wednesday. The Vatican (news - web sites) is to hold a press conference on the book's release on Tuesday. "
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050220/en_afp/vaticanpopemediabook_050220141233[/url]
2005-02-24 05:18 | User Profile
The pope and the entire catholic church should be charged with a hate crime. How dare they compare anything, even the mass murder of unborn babies, to the holy holocaust.:rolleyes:
On the other hand, it is people like the Pope, who keep giving the "holocaust" its holy status by comparing everything to it.
2005-02-24 05:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]
On the other hand, it is people like the Pope, who keep giving the "holocaust" its holy status by comparing everything to it.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, every random act of inhumanity is compared to the kosher holocaust and/or Knotsies. This is simply one of the Western world's state religions (Holocaustianity) at work.
2005-02-24 10:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]VATICAN CITY (AFP) - A new book by Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II to be published in Italy next Wednesday in which he likens abortion to a new Holocaust has outraged Jewish groups appalled by what they say is a lack of understanding on the part of the Catholic Church. [/QUOTE]Why doesn't the ADL just officially copyright the word?
2005-02-24 11:48 | User Profile
I haven't read the book yet, but last night Walter Rogers on CNN read aloud the offending passage. It appears that the word "holocaust" wasn't even used, but rather the reference was to something like "mass genocides committed by past totalitarian regimes." It sounded to me that the Jews are reading into that passage the word "holocaust", and that it isn't actually present there. I could be wrong, but that was my impression. (BTW, is Walter Rogers Jewish?)
If that's true, then they're really being paranoid, because there were of course a number of other "genocides committed by totalitarian regimes" in the 20th century, including the Red Terror inflicted on the Slavs by the Jewish Bolsheviks.
2005-02-24 15:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis] If that's true, then they're really being paranoid, because there were of course a number of other "genocides committed by totalitarian regimes" in the 20th century, including the Red Terror inflicted on the Slavs by the Jewish Bolsheviks.[/QUOTE] No way, Walter, there was only one Holocaust (tm) -- the single most evil event in the history of humanity stretching back to the dawn of time. The rest of those were just some people that got killed. :wink:
2005-02-24 15:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]No way, Walter, there was only one Holocaust (tm) -- the single most evil event in the history of humanity stretching back to the dawn of time. The rest of those were just some people that got killed. :wink:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, right!
The point is that they started shooting even when the actual word Holocaust (TM) wasn't used.
They're nuts.
2005-02-24 16:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Why doesn't the ADL just officially copyright the word?[/QUOTE]
They did Okie but the Trade Mark office told them that there has been to many holocausts in the world and people would not know which one they were talking about.
2005-02-24 21:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]No way, Walter, there was only one Holocaust (tm) -- the single most evil event in the history of humanity stretching back to the dawn of time. The rest of those were just some people that got killed. :wink:[/QUOTE]Of course:yawn:
They certainly don't need to copyright the word. LOL. That has already been done in most people's minds anyway. Ask 99% of people about the word "holocaust" and guess what will be the one and only thing they will immediately think of.