Jesus is God and Gave us the Torah

Who did Jesus come for?

Matthew 15:24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

Who then the sheep, or the House of Israel?

Jerimiah 33:14 " 'The days are coming,' declares the LORD , 'when I will fulfill the gracious promise I made to the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.

Jesus is the Lion of Judah, he will destroy the gentiles the goy or those without Jesus, the law, the torah. [size=1]Jermiah 4:77The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way; he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate; and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant[/size]. ** [color=red]Jesus is the Destroyer of the Gentiles.[/color]

But when you believe in Jesus you become evrit, or hebrew or the seed of Abraham you are blessedly no longer Gentiles:

Galatians 3:29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Jesus did not do away with the law or any of the commands or of The Feasts and Festivals:

Matthew 5:17

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus came to instruct you how to keep the Law, all the commandments not to do away with them. Not to put a heavy burden with rituals and routines like the churches and the rabbis have done,

You do know that there are more than 10 Commandments, don’t you?

If you wrote them all out there are 613. The 10 is likened unto an index of the rest.

But you won’tneed keep them all. Some commands are for women only, men only, priests only, if there was a Temple, if you are in Jerusalem, if you were a patriarch, and so on.Jesus is the Lawgiver.

Paul explained to you that Jesus death and resurrection gave you salvation as a gift, you can't get it by doing a work like circumcision or anything else. But as Jesus says you will not enter the kingdom of Heaven if your righteousness does not exceed the pharisees and you will be called least. The Torah is for this life and for the next to teach you that you are redeemed people of God and how to walk out a redeemed lifestyle.

**[size=1]And He has given us now the Spirit of Elijah to restore the house of David. Right now right here in this day, of these last times.[/size]

Malachi 4:

4 "Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel.

5 "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. 6 He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse."

Matthew:17:

10 The disciples asked him, "Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"

11Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands."

[size=1]Showing John the Baptist the Immerser is likened unto Elijah:[/size]

Luke 1

17And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous–to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."

Who then are the fathers? Abraham Isaac and Jacob. [size=2][size=1]The LordHimself will give you a new heart and a spirit in you to do the commands and wrote the torah on iyour hearts with Jesus to instruct you how to keep it. Again we see:[/size]

Ezekial 36

[/size]22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: [color=red]It is not for your sake, O house of Israel[/color], that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD , declares the Sovereign LORD , when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.

[size=2]24 " 'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; [color=red]I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.[/color] 28 You will live in the land I gave your forefathers; you will be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will save you from all your uncleanness. I will call for the grain and make it plentiful and will not bring famine upon you. 30 I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field, so that you will no longer suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and wicked deeds, and you will loathe yourselves for your sins and detestable practices. 32 I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake, declares the Sovereign LORD . Be ashamed and disgraced for your conduct, O house of Israel!

The real priests or teachers are to teach clean and unclean: Ezekial 44 23 They are to teach my people the difference between the holy and the common and show them how to distinguish between the unclean and the clean. Clean and unclean, just like in Leviticus etc.

Ezekial 45 13 " 'This is the special gift you are to offer: a sixth of an ephah from each homer of wheat and a sixth of an ephah from each homer of barley. 14 The prescribed portion of oil, measured by the bath, is a tenth of a bath from each cor (which consists of ten baths or one homer, for ten baths are equivalent to a homer). 15 Also one sheep is to be taken from every flock of two hundred from the well-watered pastures of Israel. These will be used for the grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings [/size][size=1]^[] to make atonement for the people, declares the Sovereign LORD . 16 All the people of the land will participate in this special gift for the use of the prince in Israel. 17 It will be the duty of the prince to provide the burnt offerings, grain offerings and drink offerings at the festivals, the New Moons and the Sabbaths-at all the appointed feasts of the house of Israel. He will provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the house of Israel. [/size]

[size=2]18 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In the first month on the first day you are to take a young bull without defect and purify the sanctuary. 19 The priest is to take some of the blood of the sin offering and put it on the doorposts of the temple, on the four corners of the upper ledge of the altar and on the gateposts of the inner court. 20 You are to do the same on the seventh day of the month for anyone who sins unintentionally or through ignorance; so you are to make atonement for the temple.

21 " 'In the first month on the fourteenth day you are to observe the Passover, a feast lasting seven days, during which you shall eat bread made without yeast. 22 On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land. 23 Every day during the seven days of the Feast he is to provide seven bulls and seven rams without defect as a burnt offering to the LORD , and a male goat for a sin offering. 24 He is to provide as a grain offering an ephah for each bull and an ephah for each ram, along with a hin[/size][size=2] of oil for each ephah.

25 " 'During the seven days of the Feast, which begins in the seventh month on the fifteenth day, he is to make the same provision for sin offerings, burnt offerings, grain offerings and oil.

We will be going to the Feast of Tabernacles when the Temple is restored:

Zechariah 14

[/size][size=1]16 Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.[/size][size=2]

And Jesus says the gentiles will realize the lies fo their fathers, the teaching against the Law: Jerimiah 16: 19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, [color=red]the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. [/color] 20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods?

21Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD.

In the book of Acts Paul gives instructions for the new gentile beleivers to stop fornication, eating strangled animals, blood and idols, to start them on the right road to follow Jesus and then they would learn the rest of the Torah later as they would be taught in the synagogues.

**Stop and think, why is that many christians so called still eat their steak bloody and so on? **

No the Law has not been done away with. God does not change. Nor has His love for the Jewish people. As Scripture Says. [/size][/QUOTE]THE JEWS HAVE NEVER BEEN HIS PEOPLE. THE MASK OF EDOM CLAIMS ANOTHER.

The Jews hate Yeshua, why do you think they denied him, it was because he knew who they were, or more important, whom they were NOT!

You are the biggest hypocrite, you spread your gospel telling us to bow to Jews when they are our enemies. The Jews are not Judah, and they never will be.

Get your head out of the Jews arse and see what they really want of the world.

The Jews are Khazar - not true Israelites, they are not Gods People now, and they never will be as such.

They are our enemies, they were the enemy of Israel, of Yeshua and of us today.

[url="http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/TruthPage/JewsarenotIsraelites.htm"]http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/TruthPage/JewsarenotIsraelites.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm"]http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm[/url]

Ah who are you kidding, you are Jewish.

SCRIPTURESEZ

2005-03-03 23:29 | User Profile

The Scripture Says not to have any filthy communications, such as your post:

Get your head out of the Jews arse and see what they really want of the world.

Free The Truth

2005-03-04 06:24 | User Profile

[QUOTE=SCRIPTURESEZ]The Scripture Says not to have any filthy communications, such as your post:

Get your head out of the Jews arse and see what they really want of the world.[/QUOTE]Ah nice response, but you missed the point...

You do believe the Jews are the Judahites, when they are not. They even admit it themselves. Why give away what God gave the Israelites (US) to these false Jews [url="http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev003.html#9"][color=#0000ff]Rev 3:9[/color][/url] Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Patrick

2005-03-04 22:14 | User Profile

"Did God abandoned the Jewish people? NO!"

Nonsense...

.....They were never His to abandon; they are of the serpent, per Genesis, 3:15, and they know they are edomites... you're telling folks to give up Babylon, but that is all you offer...

Ponce

2005-03-05 01:38 | User Profile

I just read earlier today (don' ask where) that the Jews wants the Christians to stop believing that Jesus is a God because that's antisemitic because Jews don't believe in Jesus.

Like I wrote elsewhere, the first thing that you must do when killing a religion is to kill their God's and holydays.

One of them is on its way with the Jews succeeding in killing Christmas.

And now they are working on the ten commandments.

And they are changing BC (Before Christ) to BCE (Before Current Era).

Remember how the Egypcians just to deface the faces and names of formers kings in order for the people to forget about them?

I really don't blame the Jews for what they are doing but do blame the Christians for allowing the Jews to do it.

Free The Truth

2005-03-06 06:58 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]I just read earlier today (don' ask where) that the Jews wants the Christians to stop believing that Jesus is a God because that's antisemitic because Jews don't believe in Jesus.

Like I wrote elsewhere, the first thing that you must do when killing a religion is to kill their God's and holydays.

One of them is on its way with the Jews succeeding in killing Christmas.

And now they are working on the ten commandments.

And they are changing BC (Before Christ) to BCE (Before Current Era).

Remember how the Egypcians just to deface the faces and names of formers kings in order for the people to forget about them?

I really don't blame the Jews for what they are doing but do blame the Christians for allowing the Jews to do it.[/QUOTE] Damn Right :thumbsup:

SCRIPTURESEZ

2005-03-06 17:28 | User Profile

Christmas is not a Holy Day To Yeshua.
Christmas is nowhere to be found in Scriptures but is it a pagan based festival that Yeshua did not do. In other words is it the teaching and instruction or custom or culture or oral [color=red]law from church fathers. [/color] [color=black][/color] Please read this [color=red]carefully.[/color] The People of God can no longer afford this kind of false teachings. This teaching tells us to ignore God's Word!
I see the opposite teaching from Gods word from many on this board.
Hatred for example of Jewish people (who you think you can id as Jews or Ephraimites)

What happened too Love our neighbors and our enemies?There is no teaching in the bible for the virulent vicious hatred I see on this board. And the filthy language. That is Sin and will get you into cursing, illness, death and hell.

Also see Romans 11:17-21 You are not to boast over the natural branches, lest you be grafted out.

Sin is transgression of the Law. What law? The [u]written[/u] law that which Moses gave you from Yeshua who is God, the Creator, The word made flesh.

I see where there is so much problems with this word LAW or Torah. Especially when you read Paul's writing. When Paul is telling you he has died to the law he is defintely talking about the oral torah, not the written torah of Moses. The oral torah is law made up by customs and tradtions, in repsponse to some incidence where the written law was broken or could be broken. So some of the Rabbis of that day and this, set up filters or fences and write that down, thinking they are protecting you from breaking the written torah.

Are you following what I am telling you?

For instance, what is a Judaizer according to Paul?

Matthew 15:2 Why do you transgress the commandment of God by your tradtion? He is talking about handwashing. and not honoring their mom and dad but saying they are a gift to their parents.

Matthew 23:3

Read this carefully and in context. The scribes and pharisees are saying but not doing the commands not even the ones they made up as fences around the law, but are putting heavy burdens on others.

So Paul is talking about the oral tradtions now made into enforceable law.

Not anything to do with the Law of Moses as in the Old Testament.

You need to study.

Find a good aramaic translalation and be careful who you beleive.

Do you want to believe the Scriptures, or the teaching of men, either church fathers or Rabbinics?

Read the Scriptures for yourselves.

But first what are the Scriptures? They are not not not the New Testament, the new testament are LETTERS written about the appearance of the Messiah Yeshua (Jesus)

[QUOTE=Ponce]I just read earlier today (don' ask where) that the Jews wants the Christians to stop believing that Jesus is a God because that's antisemitic because Jews don't believe in Jesus.

Like I wrote elsewhere, the first thing that you must do when killing a religion is to kill their God's and holydays.

[color=red]One of them is on its way with the Jews succeeding in killing Christmas.[/color]

And now they are working on the ten commandments.

And they are changing BC (Before Christ) to BCE (Before Current Era).

Remember how the Egypcians just to deface the faces and names of formers kings in order for the people to forget about them?

I really don't blame the Jews for what they are doing but do blame the Christians for allowing the Jews to do it.[/QUOTE]

SCRIPTURESEZ

2005-03-06 17:55 | User Profile

Well you are saying that Torah has passed away with Jesus who did away with the written law of Moses, what do you care what Genesis says?

Besides, this scripture is referring to Yeshua, Jesus the son of God is the Seed of the woman Muriam (Mary) what will bruise or conquer satan death sin etc.

How is it that you do not know this?

[QUOTE=Patrick]"Did God abandoned the Jewish people? NO!"

Nonsense...

.....They were never His to abandon; they are of the serpent, per Genesis, 3:15, and they know they are edomites... you're telling folks to give up Babylon, but that is all you offer...[/QUOTE]

Patrick

2005-03-07 17:14 | User Profile

"Mal 3:6 For I am the Lord, and I change not: and you the sons of Jacob are not consumed."

.....I don't disagree with Scripture whatsoever; I do, however, staunchly disagree with your identifying the antiChrist "jews" as sons of Jacob... they are the furthest thing from it...

SCRIPTURESEZ

2005-03-07 22:44 | User Profile

Well, when it comes to the anti christs, there are a lot more folks than that than just the "Jews". What I have difficulty with is the hatred of people, the singling out of so called Jews, when no one can really identify them.

Even if you could, you do not know which person will become a believer in the Messiah Ben Joseph. Many Jewish people are beleivers in the Messiah Ben David, they just can't identify Yeshua Jesus as the Messiah because his followers have not been keeping Torah since eighteen centuries ago, that is until now.

Yeshua never did away with the law. If you do some research you will see that the Law that was done away with were the oral law made up by the Rabbis. That is a fact.

But we have not had the best translations widely available. Check out some aramaic translations and learn some hebrew for yourself. Do some study.

[QUOTE=Patrick]"Mal 3:6 For I am the Lord, and I change not: and you the sons of Jacob are not consumed."

.....I don't disagree with Scripture whatsoever; I do, however, staunchly disagree with your identifying the antiChrist "jews" as sons of Jacob... they are the furthest thing from it...[/QUOTE]

Osceola

2005-03-08 05:00 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]I just read earlier today (don' ask where) that the Jews wants the Christians to stop believing that Jesus is a God because that's antisemitic because Jews don't believe in Jesus.

Like I wrote elsewhere, the first thing that you must do when killing a religion is to kill their God's and holydays.

One of them is on its way with the Jews succeeding in killing Christmas.

And now they are working on the ten commandments.

And they are changing BC (Before Christ) to BCE (Before Current

Era). Consider this,is it not possible that the whole Jesus thing is nothing more than a Jew trick to futher enslave Gentile's,deceit is there way and like they say...be wise like the serpent.

Remember how the Egypcians just to deface the faces and names of formers kings in order for the people to forget about them?

I really don't blame the Jews for what they are doing but do blame the Christians for allowing the Jews to do it.[/QUOTE]Consider this if you will,the whole Jesus thing may be nothing more than a Jew trick,after all Jesus himself was a Jew..

Osceola

2005-03-08 05:17 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Free The Truth]THE JEWS HAVE NEVER BEEN HIS PEOPLE. THE MASK OF EDOM CLAIMS ANOTHER.

The Jews hate Yeshua, why do you think they denied him, it was because he knew who they were, or more important, whom they were NOT!

You are the biggest hypocrite, you spread your gospel telling us to bow to Jews when they are our enemies. The Jews are not Judah, and they never will be.

Get your head out of the Jews arse and see what they really want of the world.

The Jews are Khazar - not true Israelites, they are not Gods People now, and they never will be as such.

They are our enemies, they were the enemy of Israel, of Yeshua and of us today.

[url="http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/TruthPage/JewsarenotIsraelites.htm"]http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/TruthPage/JewsarenotIsraelites.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm"]http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jews.htm[/url]

Ah who are you kidding, you are Jewish.[/QUOTE]if you think the Jew is your buddy ,read the Talmud....you will see what they really think of Gentiles.

Patrick

2005-03-08 14:16 | User Profile

”But we have not had the best translations widely available. Check out some aramaic translations and learn some hebrew for yourself. Do some study.”

.....Are you addressing these comments to me?

"after all Jesus himself was a Jew.."

.....Not hardly...

Gabrielle

2005-03-10 13:21 | User Profile

"INTRODUCTION

One of the most baffling questions facing Christendom in the 20th Century revolves around the people we know as Jews. Who are they? Are they the Chosen People of the Bible, the seed of Abraham, to whom God gave the promise of Genesis 12-3 "I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee?" Or are they a heathen, satanic people who have been a "thorn in the flesh" of true Israel for centuries and who have a world plan for the destruction of Christianity?

Much of importance revolves around the proper answer to this question. The fundamentalist and evangelical Christian world, for the most part teach that the present day people who call themselves Jews are indeed the offspring of Abraham, "the friend of God," and that to receive the blessings of God, Christians must help them in every way possible, even when they appear as the Apostle Paul stated in 1 Thessalonians 2:15, to be the murderers of their own prophets, persecutors of Christians, who "please not God and are contrary to all men."

Hand in hand with this problem, comes an even more complex one. "Was Jesus of Nazareth, the Virgin born Son of God, the Savior of the world - a Jew?" Most Christian pastors and Bible scholars say "Yes". But this does not make it so! The Jews themselves have a variety of opinions. Their religious book, the BABYLONIAN TALMUD, recognizes Jesus and calls Him, "the son of Pandria, a Roman solider," (SANHEDRIN, 67a). The book KALLAH, lb, 18b) states: "Jesus was the illegitimate child of a Jewish prostitute and was conceived during menstruation."

Another passage in the SANHEDRIN (103) suggests that Jesus corrupted the morals of the Judahite people and in par. 107, of this same book, it states: "Jesus corrupted and deceived and destroyed Israel."

Yet Michael Rodkinson, a Jew, in his book HISTORY OF THE TALMUD, states on page 70 - "The TALMUD is the source from whence Jesus of Nazareth drew the teachings which enabled him to revolutionize the world".

Stimulated by this Jewish statement, every Christian, especially every pastor and Bible scholar, should take time to investigate whether this statement is true. Did Jesus Christ derive his teachings from the heathen, occult book known as the TALMUD?

In his recent book, JESUS WAS A JEW!, Arthur Fruchenbaum attempts to answer these questions: "Who was Jesus of Nazareth? Was he a good teacher? Was he a well-meaning but confused religionist? Was he the disciple of another teacher? Regardless of how you answer these questions, JESUS WAS A JEW!" (UNQ.)

In the introduction to his book, Fruchtenbaum says: "The personality of Jesus of Nazareth stands as an enigma in Jewish history. Hailed by millions as a Savior and giver of life, his name has been used to condemn the Jews and an excuse to take Jewish lives."

Another Jewish group stated in a pamphlet titled SANTA CLAUS, THE EASTER BUNNY, and JESUS! written by a Jewish Rabbi from Florida: After mentioning the Christian myths of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, he states: "Then comes the hoax of all Christian hoaxes. The story of Jesus.

"The truth of the matter is that there is no historical proof that Jesus ever existed. There is no piece of physical evidence on earth today that can prove that he existed.

"No man knows where he was born; how he looked; when he died; or even where he was buried.

"Just like the story of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, the story of Jesus is another foolish Christian myth." (UNQ.)

In another article, written by a one-time Christian woman who had converted to Judaism, she says:

"To be a completed Jew one must first rid himself of all the pagan and idolatrous teachings of Christianity and rise to a higher level of holiness to believe in the one true God.

"The turning point in my life came when my husband and I were invited to celebrate the Jewish Sabbath with an orthodox rabbi. We were startled, because we felt God's presence there.

"After studying under this Rabbi and others and learning the true way of the Lord, I had no trouble abandoning the life of deception I had led until now.

"The day of my conversion to Judaism, I learned the true meaning of being 'born again.' Yes, I have been 'born again' as a Jew.

"Since that day, my husband and I have turned our ministry to exposing the myths of Christianity... the lies, the hatred, and the hypocrisy of its preachers." (UNO.)

Another Jewish Rabbi, from his headquarters in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida writes:

"Christian scholars are coming close to discovering the truth that the New Testament was the greatest book of fiction ever written. Already they have found definite proof that there was no such thing as a 'Virgin Birth', and a 'resurrection.' They are catching up with the proven facts of history, that Jesus never existed.

"Furthermore, Christian Bible scholars have definite proof, that if Jesus Christ had actually existed, he would have been a homosexual, since the traditional Jewish custom was for men to be married by the time they were eighteen. In addition, according to the Christian fairy tale of the New Testament, he never dated, he never had any girl friends, and he ran around with a group of known homosexual friends." (This so-called evidence comes from the pen of a Jewish writer named Phineas Lapide. I wonder what Bible he read.) - ED.

After writing some scurrilous tracts about Christians, this Florida Rabbi wrote:

"Let me assure you that I did write them and am quite proud of them ... I have been able to get some good local newspaper publicity by calling local newspapers and telling them that some Jews have left these at my church and that they were written by a local Rabbi. They fell for this hook, line and sinker, and I became a local martyr.

"In my tract about Communism I showed how the leading Communist agitators today are Christians, and how the New Testament is even more RED than the Communist Manifesto! I also pointed out, as a matter of history, that the first Bolshevik, and Communist revolutionaries described Jesus as their teacher and named him the GREAT COMMUNIST." (UNQ.)

These statements are indeed interesting when one compares them with other statements made by eminent Jewish authorities concerning the Communist Revolution.

In the January 1928 issue of CENTURY MAGAZINE, the eminent Jewish author Marcus Eli Ravage said: "We Jews are at the bottom of nearly all your wars; not only of the Russians but of all the other major revolutions in your history... We did it with the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas and propaganda."

When Rabbi Stephen Wise, the top Rabbi in the U.S. in 1918 was asked about the Russian Revolution, he was asked his opinion of the Communist Revolution, he was reported to have said: "Some may call it Communism; but I call it Judaism!"

When I have tried to uncover the truth regarding the Jews and who Jesus really was, I have been met with "scorn and derision" on the part of Christian leaders and Bible scholars, and outright hatred on the part of the Jews. Here is a typical letter I received in April 1985, after I had published a tract titled: "EXPLODING THE CHOSEN PEOPLE MYTH!" It was hand-printed on a restaurant paper napkin. It will give you a faint idea of how the Jews hate anyone with "guts" enough to expose them.

"You dog, snake, wolf, dragon - you antichrist. Cursed be your soul and that of your followers. An ass has more understanding than you. May the spirit of disease be upon you as you read these words - MECHNASES - the spirit of death enter into you. May your eyes be blind, and your flesh melt in the flames of hell's fire. May your wife turn into a frog; your daughter into a dog, and your son into a hog. DIE, YOU DEVIL!" The signature was in Yiddish.

So as we seek the truth about the true ancestry of Jesus Christ, our Savior and King, we must of necessity first determine who the Jews really are and where they came from. We will use both the Bible and history in our search for the truth. "

[url]http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/html2/jm0014a.htm[/url]

Gabrielle

2005-03-10 13:22 | User Profile

THE ORIGINS OF THE JEWS Was Abraham a Jew?

It has often been stated from the pulpits of Christian churches, that Abraham was the first Jew. The Bible, however, never calls Abraham by that term and for a good reason. The word JEW is merely the modern English contraction for the word JUDAHITE or JUDEAN. Thus the question is not really whether Abraham was a Jew or not; but rather WAS ABRAHAM A JUDAHITE! That is, was Abraham of the tribe of Judah? Obviously he could not be, since he preceded the tribe of Judah by three generations.

Abraham was a Semite (that is a descendant of Shem), and he was also a Hebrew (a descendant of Eber or Heber). But to say that he was a JUDAHITE is to say that he descended from his own great-grandson! Which is impossible!

The descendants of Judah (Hebrew YEHUDAH) were known as YEHUDIM, which merely means JUDAHITE. The New Testament, which was written in Greek, uses the term IOUDAII, which again translated out to mean JUDEAN.

It becomes somewhat confusing, when almost all the modern Bible translations use the term JEW instead of JUDAHITE. But once you learn to place the word JUDAHITE OR JUDEAN, where the word JEW is found, then the clear distinctions between Hebrews, Israelites and Jews will become clarified.

The Bible uses the term JUDAHITE in three distinct ways:

1) One who is of the tribe of Judah in a racial sense; 2) One who is a citizen of the southern nation of Judah, including the Tribes of Benjamin and most of the Tribe of Levi; it will even include Canaanites and Edomites who are citizens of Judah; and,

3) One who is a follower of the religion of JUDAH as given by Moses and the prophets. (This usage is found in Esther 8:17 and Romans 2:28, 29).

THE EDOMITE CONNECTION (Genesis 36:19) The nation of Judah, comprising the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, were conquered and deported to Babylon about 600 years before the birth of Christ. After a 70-year captivity, less than 50,000 returned to rebuild Jerusalem under Ezra and Nehemiah. Both of these JUDAHITE leaders had a difficult time keeping the JUDAHITES from inter-marrying with the heathen who had settled in Palestine after their deportation. These godly men had tried to institute reforms to cleanse both the people and the priests from these unlawful marriage relationships. (Ezra 2:62; 9:1, 2; Nehemiah 7:64; 12:23-30.)

About 150 years later, when Alexander the Great conquered the known world and set up his Greek Empire, the Greek language became dominant in the world and it was not long before the Hebrew word YEHUDAH (Judahite) was replaced by the Greek word IOUDAIOI, which also meant JUDEAN. This is why the New Testament, which was written in Greek speaks of JUDAHITES, instead of Jews, since both words have the same meaning.

Between the time of Nehemiah and Christ, the problem with inter-marriage increased. The climax of the problem came about 150 B.C., when the JUDEAN, John Hyrcanus, conquered the heathen cities of Palestine and forced the Canaan ites to become JUDEANS (Jews). Josephus, the Judean historian, writing about 95 A.D. said:

"Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idume (Edom) and subdued all the Idumeans (Edomites); and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would be circumcised and make use of the laws of the Judeans; they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and the rest of the Judean ways of living; at which time - - . they were hereafter no other than Judeans." (ANTIQUITY OF THE JEWS, Book 13, Ch. 9, Par. 1).

A footnote in Josephus' book quotes from Ammonius, an ancient grammarian who said: "The Judeans were such by nature from the beginning, whilst the Idumeans were not Judeans from the beginning, but Phonecians and Syrians; by being subdued by the Judeans and compelled to be circumcised, and to unite into one nation, they were subject to the same laws and became known as Judeans."

This all took place before the time of Christ. It becomes obvious, then that by the time of Christ, there were a great host of people living in Palestine who were Canaanites and Edomites by race, although Judeans (Jews) by religion. Even the ruling dynasty of the Herod's were Edomites and Herod the Great, was an ldumean, that is a "half-Jew," (mongrel).

The JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDlA, 1925 edition, Vol.5, p.41, states: "Edom is in modern Jewry."

The Esau-Edomite nation of Idumea ceased to exist as a separate nation at this point in history. Yet the Bible is clear that Edom will be the enemy of Israel in the latter days. (See Malachi 1:2-4). How could these prophesies be fulfilled, if there were no Edomites left in the world? There is only one nation in the world today which can prove ancestral ties with Edom and the so-called Jews themselves claim this dubious distinction.

The Jews have adopted the materialistic anti-God attitude that characterized the father of the Edomites, Esau. As a judgment for their sins, including the murder of God's Son, Jesus Christ, God cast them out of Palestine in 70 A.D. when the Roman General Titus destroyed Jerusalem. The JUDEANS (Jews) fled to North Africa and Spain. We find this account in THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S ENCYCLOPEDIA, 1954, p.15-492, under the heading THE JEWS.

"Following their dispersal many spread across North Africa to Spain and during this movement converted many Berber tribes to Judaism. (It might be well here, to recall the word of Jesus to the Pharisees in Matthew 23:15, when He said to the scribes and Pharisees: ". . . ye compass (go over) sea and land to make one proselyte (convert), and when he is made, ye make him two-fold a child of hell than yourselves."

(Maybe this is why the North Africans had such a hatred for the Christian Spaniards) That portion which moved into Spain and later northward became quite wealthy and gained considerable prestige. (Yes, indeed, several Cardinals of the Catholic Church and several Popes were Jews.) These became known as SEPHARDIM JEWS.

Today, there are two main branches of these people we call Jews. The Sephardim Jews of Western Europe and the Ash ken azi Jews of Eastern Europe. In all honesty, we can say that modern SEPHARDIM Jewry is a mixture of Judean blood with that of Edom, Syria, Canaan, Phonecia and North Africa.

THE ASHKENAZIM

If one studies the origins of this branch of European world Jewry, we must allow historians to tell us the story. The history of this branch of Jewry is almost unknown in the Christian world, although there are more than 320 books in the New York library alone, which deal with this history - in addition to the JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA.

In the year 740 A.D. the Khazar kingdom in Eastern Europe officially converted to JUDAISM. A century later, they were crushed by the incoming Slavic people and were scattered over Central Europe where they became known as Jews. It is from this group that most of the German and Polish Jews came and they make up the predominance of Jewish people found in America. The term Ashkenazim is applied to this round-headed, dark-complected division of Jewry. (From THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S ENCYCLOPEDIA, p.15-492).

In the early 1960's the Sephardim numbered about 500,000, while the Ashkenazim totaled over 12-million. Thus, the word Jew, is practically synonymous with Ashkenazim, according to Arthur Kosetler in his book THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, p.181.

That the Khazars are lineal ancestors of Eastern European Jewry is a historical fact, even though many Christian ministers and Bible scholars refuse to accept this fact.

The Kazars or "Chazars" as they are sometimes called, were of Turkish origin and their history from the very beginning is woven into the history of the Jews of Russia. (JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, 3rd Edition, 1925.)

Who were the Khazars and from whence did they come? Again we will let Jewish historians from the NEW JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, 1962, answer this.

They were a Mongolian people who embraced Judaism and flourished from the 8th through the 10th century A.D. in the territory extending between the Don and Volga Rivers, and along the shores of the Black, Caspian, and Azov Seas. The Jewish statesman Hasdai ibn Shaprut of Cordoba, in the 10th century, wrote a letter to King Joseph of the Khazars, in which he gave a detailed account of this conversion.

For the sake of interest, it should be mentioned that the Ashkenaz of the Bible refers to a people living somewhere in the vicinity of Mt. Ararat and Armenia. The name occurs in Genesis 10:3 and 1 Chronicles 1:6, as one of the sons of Gomer, who was the son of Japheth. Ashkenaz was also the brother of Togarmah and a nephew of Magog, whom the Khazars claimed as their ancestor.

Strictly speaking, these Ashkenaz Jews are misnamed, since their ancestor was not Ash kenaz, but his brother. This makes little difference, as long as we recognize that at least 90% of world Jewry comes from this background and is of Togarmah rather than Israel.

Phantasm

2005-03-12 20:38 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]... In the early 1960's the Sephardim numbered about 500,000, while the Ashkenazim totaled over 12-million. Thus, the word Jew, is practically synonymous with Ashkenazim, according to Arthur Kosetler in his book THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, p.181.

That the Khazars are lineal ancestors of Eastern European Jewry is a historical fact, even though many Christian ministers and Bible scholars refuse to accept this fact. ...[/QUOTE] Thanks Gabrielle! :smile:

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