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Thread ID: 16814 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2005-02-17
2005-02-17 20:48 | User Profile
ALIPACââ¬â¢s Gheen Refutes FRââ¬â¢s JimRob
by William Gheen
[See also: VDARE.COM vs. Free Republic; Peter Brimelow On Free Republic Fracas]
At high noon on Friday, February 11, 2005, the article "Not So Free Republic: The Shot Heard Around The Net" was released to America in response to Jim Robinsonââ¬â¢s banning of many rule abiding and long term users of Free Republic that disagreed with the Bush guest worker amnesty plan.
That message was heard around the Internet and we were both humbled and awed at how rapidly the news about Free Republic traveled and how many people came to our assistance. Countless websites, forums, activists and radio shows carried the news to their audiences and Freepers began to post and pass the news to others in their community. Many were not surprised by this turn of events because of Robinsonââ¬â¢s past purges and the growing internal conflict within the GOP over immigration issues.
Robinson realized his community would eventually find this information, so he posted it himself and took a wagon train position on his own site. He has spent much of his time since then banning and suspending the accounts of countless Freepers and even members that have supported his site since the 1990ââ¬â¢s. Many others made their farewell speeches and walked out of Free Republic to never return.
Robinsonââ¬â¢s biggest mistake, besides implying he was fighting to keep Free Republic safe from secret Nazi conspiracies, was to show that the points of the original article were true for all to see. He banned true conservatives left and right in a vain attempt to control the debate while calling people names without any evidence his character attacks were true. He shot himself in the foot while that foot was placed deeply in his own mouth.
Robinson later admitted he had no direct evidence that any of the groups and individuals he banned and maligned were racists. He even admitted that he supported the Presidentââ¬â¢s guest worker plan and ran a new poll that shows Freeper conservatives are clearly opposed to the Bush immigration plan. In this case it is Mr. Robinson that represents the fringe element and has supported unsubstantiated personal attacks on his forum.
Even Sean Hannity has written off Free Republic, saying "Everyone I knew basically left because of so much childish immature personal attacks, the propensity there to eat their own." [Listen to Sean Hannityââ¬â¢s Statement about Free Republic. ]
Although our points have been proven and reinforced by Free Republic's closet skeletons, this fight is far from over. There is no joy in this regrettable conflict with Mr. Robinson. There is no joy in the fact that average Americans have to take historic political action to demand that our own President and Congress obey the Constitution and enforce our existing immigration laws.
We are fighting because we must; the consequences of inaction are too disastrous for our way of life, our values, and our nation.
Republicans, Democrats, Unaffiliated and 3rd Party voters along with men and women that are White, Black, Asian, and Latino support the security of our borders and the enforcement of our immigration laws. Every day more and more people are waking up to the fact that our immigration laws are being almost completely disregarded.
The main question that the Presidentââ¬â¢s men and women wonââ¬â¢t answer for us is this: Why are we giving the Federal government more power and money than ever before, deploying troops on the opposite side of the planet, and putting Americans through partial strip searches in airports to secure our nation while at the same time instructing our border patrol to stand down (catch & release) against the six to ten thousand illegal aliens streaming across our Southern border each night?
There are many more defenders of the Presidentââ¬â¢s plan that are on the kingââ¬â¢s payroll and the payrolls of those that influence the king. We must gather our supporters and engage those responsible for this travesty on the Internet, in the old guard media, on the sidewalks and desert plains, and at the ballot box.
We face superior finances and influence, but we have the wind of the vast majority of the American public at our backs and the true American Spirit in our hearts.
William Gheen [email him] is the President of Americans for Legal Immigration
http://www.vdare.com/misc/gheen_050216_jimrob.htm
2005-02-25 12:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Even Sean Hannity has written off Free Republic, saying "Everyone I knew basically left because of so much childish immature personal attacks, the propensity there to eat their own."[/QUOTE]
Jeez - how damning can you get? When even [B]Melonhead[/B] turns on you, the writing is on the wall in ten-foot tall letters.
This latest purge strongly indicates that what many (including myself) have been saying about GOP money being funnelled to FR is true. For Ironside Robinson to have shitcanned [I]so many [/I] longstanding members - given FR's equally-longstanding policy of milking the faithful via regular 'fundraising efforts' - means those lucky-bux he's gotten used to living off of have to be coming from somewhere else. ZOG, f'rinstance.
2005-02-25 13:07 | User Profile
Incidentally, even the FR dissenters tend to repeat [B]Iamnotaracist [/B] over and over again to themselves (as they roll up their windows and lock their doors while stopped at a red light in Darktown, of course):
[QUOTE][url]http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-264-days0-orderasc-60.html[/url]
I need to ask you a rather direct question: Given that you've been painted as Stormfront-friendly, and have said that you aren't, why did you link to Original Dissent on this thread?
While any site can have marginal posters that are a bit under the radar, and while DU is a known quantity as a leftist forum, Original Dissent has posters who openly advocate anti-Semitism and White Nationalism. It's there on the thread that you linked. [/QUOTE]
And here's another JimRob 'dissident' who made me chuckle:
[QUOTE][B]RaceBannon[/B]
"I am a regular at Freerepublic.com, and am using my real name as I use there.
A lot of this is just nonsense.
FreeRepublic is NOT censoring the arguments about Illegal Immigration, and I am proof of that due to the rallies we held, posts I have made, and the repitition of many Michell Malkin arrticles, also, such as from her book, "Invasion". FR has had PLENTY of articles against Illegal Immigration.
You guys wouldn't even have a website if it wasn't for the likes of FreeRepublic.com." [/QUOTE]
PS: "Race Bannon" is the name of a two-fisted cartoon character from the old JONNY QUEST series. Oh these principled anti-racists: the louder they insist they're telling the truth, the more transparently they're lying.
2005-02-25 14:21 | User Profile
il ragno,
ALIPAC is spineless moron!
[QUOTE]Sabertooth:
Thank you for that information. No I have not looked into that thread, it was submitted by another user. I will pull it down right away(the Original Dissent thread link). Later today I will post a call for forum links and I think you will like the project I'm asking for help on.
I need some good guardian angels to keep an eye out for us.
WG
[url]http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-264-days0-orderasc-60.html[/url][/QUOTE]
2005-02-25 16:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]il ragno,
ALIPAC is spineless moron![/QUOTE]
Let's be honest, these guys go to get-a-clue school on the short bus. Hell, I was banned from FR back in the last century and they're just figuring it out? The've helped to alert quite a few more people to the fact that RimJob is probably Karl Rove's bitch, and that's just about the limit of their usefulness.
2005-02-25 16:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Recluse]Let's be honest, these guys go to get-a-clue school on the short bus. Hell, I was banned from FR back in the last century and they're just figuring it out? The've helped to alert quite a few more people to the fact that RimJob is probably Karl Rove's bitch, and that's just about the limit of their usefulness.[/QUOTE]
The feckless RimJob grabbed his ankles for RNC gelt and ADL thought-police soon after Bush Junior's ascension.
May his interloping finks convey that message to the Fresno triple-wide... :D
2005-02-25 17:02 | User Profile
[url]http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-264-days0-orderasc-60.html[/url]
I need to ask you a rather direct question: Given that you've been painted as Stormfront-friendly, and have said that you aren't, why did you link to Original Dissent on this thread?
While any site can have marginal posters that are a bit under the radar, and while DU is a known quantity as a leftist forum, Original Dissent has posters who openly advocate anti-Semitism and White Nationalism. It's there on the thread that you linked.
Sabertooth:
Thank you for that information. No I have not looked into that thread, it was submitted by another user. I will pull it down right away(the Original Dissent thread link). Later today I will post a call for forum links and I think you will like the project I'm asking for help on.
I need some good guardian angels to keep an eye out for us.
WG
[url]http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-264-days0-orderasc-60.html[/url]
Gasp. We have thoughtcrimes out in the open here.
What a bunch of squirrels over there.
2005-02-25 18:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno] PS: "Race Bannon" is the name of a two-fisted cartoon character from the old JONNY QUEST series. Oh these principled anti-racists: the louder they insist they're telling the truth, the more transparently they're lying.[/QUOTE] This fellow must be an imposter....Race Bannon is dead. I saw him die while watching The Venture Brothers. :holiday:
2005-02-25 19:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE][url]http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-264-days0-orderasc-60.html[/url]
I need to ask you a rather direct question: Given that you've been painted as Stormfront-friendly, and have said that you aren't, why did you link to Original Dissent on this thread?
While any site can have marginal posters that are a bit under the radar, and while DU is a known quantity as a leftist forum, Original Dissent has posters who openly advocate anti-Semitism and White Nationalism. It's there on the thread that you linked.[/QUOTE]
Well, I used to live right across the river from E. St. Louis and I decided long ago that I want no part of it. I don't want to Live in E. St. Louis or E. LA. I used to naively think that I could just move away from it, but with Lincolnista forced integration lovers like these clowns setting public policy, that's just not a viable long term option, so we're going to have to get together to establish some formal boundaries. If they want to call it White Nationalism, that's fine with me. Whatever keeps my community from becoming another Detroit.
2005-02-25 22:13 | User Profile
[url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1341266/posts?q=1&&page=1#1]The God Emperor of Cyberspace speaks[/url]:> I do NOT support open borders or illegal immigration. Sincerely doubt there are many on this forum who do. I believe you Jim. Sure I do.