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Thread ID: 16680 | Posts: 66 | Started: 2005-02-09
2005-02-09 14:55 | User Profile
That is what a Freeper friend has told me. By "border purge" he means jimmy robinson's banning of anyone who speaks out against illegal immigration, or the abuse of legal immigration.
What a joke if that site still claims to be for "grassroots" conservatism. But that is nothing compared to what will happen if people start taking some real steps to get in the way of the mexican flood. Then the mexican patron saint employers will get really nasty. Kind of like trying to take a chickenbone away from a junkyard dog. In my view, they have entrenched themselves in a vicious cycle, becoming further and further dependent. At first maybe they just wanted to make some extra profit. But now they have dug themselves into dependency. I think they will actually resort to anything before they let the people take away their mexicans.
Anything.
2005-02-09 15:45 | User Profile
But I'm puzzled: Didn't FR's Holy Trinity RusHannitOreilly change their view on illegal immigration, from thumbs up to thumbs down. Why would JimRob not follow orders decreed by his gods? Why is he banning those who rail against illegal immigration?
2005-02-09 15:55 | User Profile
Robinson is a member in good standing with the Treason Lobby. As for these "businessmen" they should be prosecuted under provisions of the R.I.C.O. Act. "Free" Republic should be renamed [I]"Fool Republic."[/I]
XM,
I think JR figures that with Rush and company that this is nothing but a put on to allow the listeners to bitch while the hosts of these shows quietly sabotage any effort to organize these people.
2005-02-09 17:41 | User Profile
I was wondering when the ban machine would kick in over there, which was even more rapid than I thought. The Open-Borders, Bush-Suckups were getting their asses handed to them in thread after thread.
So, apparently they went crying to Big Momma Jim and had him sh*tcan the opposition for 'em, all under the guise of promoting harmony or some other such tripe, though I notice the snot-nosed name callers among the Suckup crowd managed to escape the axe. Go figure.
I am sorry those folks got banned, but it's all for the good. Maybe they'll figure out that the neo-con, Jewish-flavored brand of tyranny is just as nasty as the kind promoted by the dangerous "Leftists" that Rush is always telling them to be on the lookout for. Looks like the lid on the pressure cooker just got tightened down another turn or two.
Hey, maybe we'll get some more OD members out of the deal. Course, they won't hear about this place on FR. They even ban links to Vdare!
2005-02-09 21:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]I think JR figures that with Rush and company that this is nothing but a put on to allow the listeners to bitch while the hosts of these shows quietly sabotage any effort to organize these people.[/QUOTE]
No doubt about it. Besides, they can't totally avoid the issue. Also, by treating it as just another issue they can control how much importance is allocated to it, changing it to the runofthemill everyday outrage. Not like the actual loss of the nation that is taking place.
MadScienceType That is exactly what happened on foolrepublic (please pardon the borrowed term Sertorius). And I too hope that more from foolrepublic come in here. I was one of them - thangdatrang. But a lot of them, like myself might not be friendly with certain views often espoused here. But I hope they, like myself, will at least find some reassurance that there does not seem to be the kind of censorship that we have seen on foolrepublic. Anyway, if there are a lot of viewpoints here that is closer to the people than the controlled "grassroots" managed by jimby.
2005-02-09 21:44 | User Profile
Sorry you got axed over there.
I realize there are a lot of beliefs and ideas around here that most Freepers would find abhorrent, but the nice thing is, you can say your piece, yay or nay, without someone looking over your shoulder to see if you've gored a sacred cow or two. Of course, the opposition may argue like crazy with you, but there's much less chance of someone running off to Momma Jim to have you canned because they can't refute your argument.
In fact, I might even hold some of the views you mention that would meet with an unfriendly reception, but at least here, they can get hashed out (fairly) logically, unlike Rush's fairly-tale "Arena of (politically-correct) Ideas."
2005-02-09 21:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Righteous Fist] But a lot of them, like myself might not be friendly with certain views often espoused here. [/QUOTE]
Righteous Fist, we believe in self-determination and freedom of association for White people as proscribed in the US Constitution and see the present government as hopelessly corrupt, largely influenced by certain dual-citizens with foreign passions, as well as acting against, and discouraging, the real will and interest of the American people.
Plus, we like the French.
See, what's not to love about us!!
2005-02-09 22:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Righteous Fist]No doubt about it. Besides, they can't totally avoid the issue. Also, by treating it as just another issue they can control how much importance is allocated to it, changing it to the runofthemill everyday outrage. Not like the actual loss of the nation that is taking place.
MadScienceType That is exactly what happened on foolrepublic (please pardon the borrowed term Sertorius). And I too hope that more from foolrepublic come in here. I was one of them - thangdatrang. But a lot of them, like myself might not be friendly with certain views often espoused here. But I hope they, like myself, will at least find some reassurance that there does not seem to be the kind of censorship that we have seen on foolrepublic. Anyway, if there are a lot of viewpoints here that is closer to the people than the controlled "grassroots" managed by jimby.[/QUOTE]Its too bad you had to go through this, because this is the exact thing that so many of us went through over 4 years ago there. JR kicked all the anti-immigrationists of then and there was a big rush to set up other boards and other strategies for a while. Have you seen the [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15852]Free Republic Sucks[/URL] thread?
After a while I guess it just petered out, and the separate boards got so focused on themselves and their own little internecine infighting that we didn't really have time to keep in touch with the latest group of open-border skeptics at FR, so this is all something new to you. Its a shame it has to keep happening all over again.
2005-02-09 22:20 | User Profile
R.F.,
Rush is fond of saying [QUOTE]"if we don't talk about it, it isn't important."[/QUOTE]
He has said more about illegal immigration since the beginning of the year than in the last 12 years. He'll mention it just enough to satisfy his rank and file listeners while concentrating on those things that mean the most to him- Israel and taxcuts. Nothing else matters to him.
2005-02-09 22:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]R.F.,
Rush is fond of saying
He has said more about illegal immigration since the beginning of the year than in the last 12 years. He'll mention it just enough to satisfy his rank and file listeners while concentrating on those things that mean the most to him- Israel and taxcuts. Nothing else matters to him.[/QUOTE]Sounds like his listeners mostly go along with him on this.
2005-02-09 22:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]But I'm puzzled: Didn't FR's Holy Trinity RusHannitOreilly change their view on illegal immigration, from thumbs up to thumbs down. Why would JimRob not follow orders decreed by his gods? Why is he banning those who rail against illegal immigration?[/QUOTE]
Perhaps some of FR's donors are Wall Street Republicans
2005-02-09 23:19 | User Profile
I had been kicked off of FR about two dozen times before I gave up on it totally. It was best thing I have done for my sanity in the past few years (apart from subscribing to Chronicles and PJB's The American Conservative).
2005-02-09 23:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Sounds like his listeners mostly go along with him on this.[/QUOTE] Okie, It's funny, but talk radio one time had the opportunity to do some good, but so many of these hosts have sold out to the Zio-plutocratic interests that they resemble the corruption that eventually overcame "Free" Republic. Like FR's purges of Paleoconservatives and Paleolibertarians posters I have noted the more intelligent callers not calling anymore. Instead, they have been replaced by the stupid, ignorant and venal. Maybe one day it can once again become a force for good.
2005-02-10 04:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Righteous Fist, we believe in self-determination and freedom of association for White people as proscribed in the US Constitution and see the present government as hopelessly corrupt, largely influenced by certain dual-citizens with foreign passions, as well as acting against, and discouraging, the real will and interest of the American people.[/QUOTE]
That's why I joined! :thumbsup: Not sure about the French though. But I guess I'm open to check out others' opinions :lol:
MadScienceType No doubt about it. Its important to have discussion and not have anyone squelched out. One of us might awaken the other, or maybe even the two ideas can forge a new truth. Or at least, each can offer insights useful to the other that can only be seen from that angle, even if the fundamental beliefs of each never change.. hope that makes sense the way I wrote it. Anyway, its a relief not to have a nanny intervening.
Jack Cassidy a dozen memberships.. man.. who knows, maybe you got through to some people though.
Okiereddust So immigration was the main push for the banning and the new boards even that far back? I must admit, you had more foresight than I did. I didn't know what was going on until I came to the west coast and saw it with my own eyes and could extrapolate from there. Its quite thick in the mexico and spreading fast.
2005-02-10 05:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jack Cassidy]I had been kicked off of FR about two dozen times before I gave up on it totally. It was best thing I have done for my sanity in the past few years (apart from subscribing to Chronicles and PJB's The American Conservative).[/QUOTE]
I've been kicked off about 8 or 9 "conservative" message boards in the past 3 years. I guess I'm not PC enough...
:holiday:
2005-02-10 06:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE]....talk radio one time had the opportunity to do some good, but so many of these hosts have sold out to the Zio-plutocratic interests that they resemble the corruption that eventually overcame "Free" Republic. [/QUOTE]
I hope most of us now understand that talk radio never really had an opportunity to do anything more than stick a band-aid on the flesh-eating virus consuming the West.
Talk radio is - or [I]was[/I], take your pick - good at noticing that there [I]are [/I] breadcrumb trails; but piss-poor at following them to their points of origin. Figure out who the big money players in radio...in [I]all [/I] major media...are, and draw your own conclusions. Blacks and Mexicans are easy - the people pulling their strings are [I]very, very hard[/I].
Same with FR, little more than an RNC front and the one 'rightist' board in cyberspace with very deep pockets, routinely raising hundreds of thousands of dollars. Once you step up to the big leagues and your profile climbs accordingly, connecting the dots and following the breadcrumbs to the end of the trail is simply bad for business. If FR ever leapfrogged [I]past [/I] immigration to the question of [U]who[/U] would want the traditional structure of the Old America obliterated, and [U]why[/U], there'd be a big fat '404 error - file not found' at the url where FR used to be.
2005-02-10 06:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]I hope most of us now understand that talk radio never really had an opportunity to do anything more than stick a band-aid on the flesh-eating virus consuming the West.
Talk radio is - or [I]was[/I], take your pick - good at noticing that there [I]are [/I] breadcrumb trails; but piss-poor at following them to their points of origin. Figure out who the big money players in radio...in [I]all [/I] major media...are, and draw your own conclusions. Blacks and Mexicans are easy - the people pulling their strings are [I]very, very hard[/I].
Same with FR, little more than an RNC front and the one 'rightist' board in cyberspace with very deep pockets, routinely raising hundreds of thousands of dollars. Once you step up to the big leagues and your profile climbs accordingly, connecting the dots and following the breadcrumbs to the end of the trail is simply bad for business. If FR ever leapfrogged [I]past [/I] immigration to the question of [U]who[/U] would want the traditional structure of the Old America obliterated, and [U]why[/U], there'd be a big fat '404 error - file not found' at the url where FR used to be.[/QUOTE]
Yep. The conservative radio people follow the breadcrumbs awhile, and then notice that the crumbs lead directly to Sol Goldsilverwitzbergstein's door, and then they quickly forget what they saw: "Who? What? Breadcrumbs? I didn't see any breadcrumbs. Even if I [I]did[/I] see breadcrumbs, I didn't see any breadcrumbs."
:king:
2005-02-10 06:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Centinel]Perhaps some of FR's donors are Wall Street Republicans[/QUOTE]No doubt, many of them. And they throw their weight around. Remember "The Guild"?
Now we all know money talks. But let's face it, the establishment has with FR shown itself smarter and better-organized than the opposition. So many paleo's and WN seem to think the only thing its about is how smart and clever your posts are. (Even you Martin, in your own way :lol:). JR, let's face it, beats the Francos of this world at their own game.
2005-02-10 09:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE]So many paleo's and WN seem to think the only thing its about is how smart and clever your posts are.(Even you Martin, in your own way ). [/QUOTE]
An accusation you need never fear being levelled at you, Okie.
[QUOTE]JR, let's face it, beats the Francos of this world at their own game.[/QUOTE]
But the whole point of this posting-on-the-Net business isn't and never was a [I]game[/I]. We are force-fed Official Versions of the truth through mass-media by aliens among us and watch the prevailing memes spread like kudzu, or lymphoma, and we have no conventional outlets thru which to say "no" or "that is a lie" or "this is insanity". I would guess that 90% of everybody posting to forums like this began out of a humble desire to register their protest - to get it on the record that they're not buying the okeydoke that the NBCs and the Time-Lifes and NewsCorps and Clear Channels are ramming down our countrymen's throats.
But common sense should tell you that there are far more efficient ways to win friends and influence people and amass a king's ransom than by telling the truth. If what you want to do is win going away, just parrot the neoconservative line, or whichever line is going [I]with [/I] and not [I]against [/I] the current grain. Identify the brand they're buying, the one that puts the numbers on your side, and swear allegiance to that brand.
But I don't think that's what most of us are trying to do.
2005-02-10 11:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]But common sense should tell you that there are far more efficient ways to win friends and influence people and amass a king's ransom than by telling the truth. If what you want to do is win going away, just parrot the neoconservative line, or whichever line is going [I]with [/I] and not [I]against [/I] the current grain. Identify the brand they're buying, the one that puts the numbers on your side, and swear allegiance to that brand.
But I don't think that's what most of us are trying to do.[/QUOTE]
Very well put. I'm pleased to see you thinking in marketing terms.
I disagree, however, with your apparent implication that this is a losing game. Remember, this all will blow up in Jews' faces, history proves as much. We will certainly win.
Our task is to identify the countertrends and design our own brand that can draw on their rising power. We want to be ready with our own brand to exploit the potential for explosive market growth when that happens.
It's all about power. It's all about taking our kind high and inside, and putting out enemies low and outside. It's not about keeping our consciences clean by registering a hopeless voice of protest on the internet.
The point of places like OD is to deny our enemies a total monopoly and to stake out an ideological market niche. And we're making some progress. OD even got mentioned on the boob tube not long ago.
This is a powerful thing, and I hope that we can all get clear on that. We're not just here to keep ourselves entertained or to mollify our guilty consciences. We are here to hammer out and propagate a Christian Nationalist alternative to the Culture of Critique with a view to ultimate victory.
Walter
2005-02-10 11:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE] OD even got mentioned on the boob tube not long ago. [/QUOTE]
Really? Where? What did they say about OD?
2005-02-10 12:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]Really? Where? What did they say about OD?
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Ask Tex.
2005-02-10 12:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]But the whole point of this posting-on-the-Net business isn't and never was a [I]game[/I]. Depends what you mean by game. I'd say to a certain extent it is a contest - to see who gets the most numbers, etc. This is a democracy after all, that's how things are scored, at least a great deal of the time.
And JR certainly still is ahead on that score. It's not just that he does it though its how he does it. Meanshitnovik is his own perfect incranation of the fuehrerprinzip Franco and VNN admire
We are force-fed Official Versions of the truth through mass-media by aliens among us and watch the prevailing memes spread like kudzu, or lymphoma, and we have no conventional outlets thru which to say "no" or "that is a lie" or "this is insanity". Well that's not entirely true. We have all sorts of avenues open to us, FR included. That doesn't mean welcome, just accessible. If we really had a coherent message that we agreed on, believed in, and could work together on.
Unfortunately we've made very slow progress there. That is one of the reason the enemy controls the mass-media - we lack the ability to contest it seriously. And its been far more than numbers, money and sheer power, though these are a factor.
I would guess that 90% of everybody posting to forums like this began out of a humble desire to register their protest - to get it on the record that they're not buying the okeydoke that the NBCs and the Time-Lifes and NewsCorps and Clear Channels are ramming down our countrymen's throats.
But common sense should tell you that there are far more efficient ways to win friends and influence people and amass a king's ransom than by telling the truth. If what you want to do is win going away, just parrot the neoconservative line, or whichever line is going [I]with [/I] and not [I]against [/I] the current grain. Identify the brand they're buying, the one that puts the numbers on your side, and swear allegiance to that brand.
But I don't think that's what most of us are trying to do.[/QUOTE]Are we? Telling the truth is important, but it is irrelevant if nobody of influence or influential numbers start listening. I admire you the abilities of a lot of you all, you included IR, but I am certain putting a good argument or piece of information in front of you, by itself, is going to change little. I think the statement that personified this attitude was AntiYuppie's, when he said he thought the Phora should be reduced to just about 6 people.
Maybe 6 very smart people, but no matter how smart their ideas are, just whispering them in the dark will accomplish little. Just as no matter how good your book is, if you burn it before anyone reads it you probably won't win any sort of prize at all with it.
2005-02-10 15:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE]I disagree, however, with your apparent implication that this is a losing game. Remember, this all will blow up in Jews' faces, history proves as much. We will certainly win.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. I just think we're in for a [I]long [/I] tug-of-war, and the news from the front will not always be heartening - certainly at first - and I'm not sure if adulterating the message, or emulating our enemies, won't hurt us more than help us.
[QUOTE]JR certainly still is ahead on that score. It's not just that he does it though its how he does it. Meanshitnovik is his own perfect incranation of the fuehrerprinzip Franco and VNN admire [/QUOTE]
Well, from what I hear from disaffected ex-Freepers - and they are [I]legion [/I] - it seems as though he operates via a policy of flattering, then discarding, useful idiots with each rung further up the ladder FR goes (or went - I tend to doubt FR has the same propulsive momentum that it did four or five years ago).
Now I can't prove a word of this (but on the other hand I'm not a district attorney and am not required to) but I've felt for some time that a GOP shill-entity like FR has been clandestinely aided and funded by the RNC from the beginning, which affords them a huge advantage over bellowing doormice like ourselves....but I'd rather be the doormouse who knows fair from foul, and ad-libs his own lines, than an elephant forced to read from a script provided to me by ivory hunters. What's the motto of the old Texas Rangers again...?
[I]A little man whip a big man ever time if the little man know he's right and keep on coming. [/I]
On the other hand, "Meanshitnovik" just [I]might [/I] be the greatest screen name in the history of the World Wide Web.
2005-02-10 16:45 | User Profile
That first great round of Paleo-purges took place in January, 2001--just after the FReaks were feted at a party for the Chimp-in-Cheef's first Installation.
RimJob shaved off his beard; snipped back his angry Libertarian hippy locks and was bought a nice new Stetson for the event...
The people oppose Illegals by 80%. The Plutocracy wants 'em. With FReaktown's collaboration, guess who prevails...? :angry:
2005-02-10 16:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]I agree with this. I just think we're in for a [I]long [/I] tug-of-war, and the news from the front will not always be heartening - certainly at first - and I'm not sure if adulterating the message, or emulating our enemies, won't hurt us more than help us.
Well, from what I hear from disaffected ex-Freepers - and they are [I]legion [/I] - it seems as though he operates via a policy of flattering, then discarding, useful idiots with each rung further up the ladder FR goes (or went - I tend to doubt FR has the same propulsive momentum that it did four or five years ago).
Now I can't prove a word of this (but on the other hand I'm not a district attorney and am not required to) but I've felt for some time that a GOP shill-entity like FR has been clandestinely aided and funded by the RNC from the beginning, which affords them a huge advantage over bellowing doormice like ourselves....but I'd rather be the doormouse who knows fair from foul, and ad-libs his own lines, than an elephant forced to read from a script provided to me by ivory hunters. What's the motto of the old Texas Rangers again...?
[I]A little man whip a big man ever time if the little man know he's right and keep on coming. [/I]
On the other hand, "Meanshitnovik" just [I]might [/I] be the greatest screen name in the history of the World Wide Web.[/QUOTE]
Madrussian gets the credit for that glad coinage... :thumbsup:
2005-02-10 17:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]No doubt, many of them. And they throw their weight around. Remember "The Guild"?
Never heard of it...what was it?
2005-02-10 18:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Righteous Fist]Okiereddust So immigration was the main push for the banning and the new boards even that far back? I must admit, you had more foresight than I did. I didn't know what was going on until I came to the west coast and saw it with my own eyes and could extrapolate from there. Its quite thick in the mexico and spreading fast.[/QUOTE]
Yes, RF. Seems like forever ago, but JR started all this way back in 2001 with the purging of the 'paleo-cons'. If you're interested, you could review this old thread:
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5243[/url]
2005-02-10 18:03 | User Profile
[I][B]The "Guild"[/B][/I]
A collection of bored house wives :yawn: who don't have anything better to do after telling their illegals :alucard: what to do than to get on the net to [U]Fool Republic[/U], gossip, backbit one another :argue: when they are not conducting a witch trial for some poor slob :bash: that has gone against the party line and generally sing obseqious paens to the glory of Jim Robinson. :caiphas: They have their very own [I]special thread[/I] to begin the day's fun described above. :yes:
2005-02-10 18:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]Madrussian gets the credit for that glad coinage... :thumbsup:[/QUOTE] It's Meanshitvik (Menshevik is Russian for minority commie faction). I heard it from you first, actually.
2005-02-10 18:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]It's Meanshitvik (Menshevik is Russian for minority commie faction). I heard it from you first, actually.[/QUOTE]
I believe it. Howard has a true talent for coining new terms and names like that. Didn't that particular name originate from Lucianne Goldberg's description of JimRob at the time of their split?
2005-02-10 19:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Well, from what I hear from disaffected ex-Freepers - and they are [I]legion [/I] - it seems as though he operates via a policy of flattering, then discarding, useful idiots with each rung further up the ladder FR goes (or went - I tend to doubt FR has the same propulsive momentum that it did four or five years ago). True. I'd heard that it was sort of that way before I experienced 4-5 years ago. Although JR's initial line was somewhat different when he was knocking Bush as a cocaine sniffing CIA plant.
Now I can't prove a word of this (but on the other hand I'm not a district attorney and am not required to) but I've felt for some time that a GOP shill-entity like FR has been clandestinely aided and funded by the RNC from the beginning,
I don't think from the beginning, re: the Bush-bashing days. But since the transformation there's been an open presense and rumours of people there with connections (and of course money)in Washingon. Such as the Guild.
which affords them a huge advantage over bellowing doormice like ourselves....but I'd rather be the doormouse who knows fair from foul, and ad-libs his own lines, than an elephant forced to read from a script provided to me by ivory hunters. What's the motto of the old Texas Rangers again...?
[I]A little man whip a big man ever time if the little man know he's right and keep on coming. [/I][/QUOTE]Probably got it from Tex's avatar at the Alamo. Thought's nice I suppose, but a few more companies would help in situations like that too, unless one is advocating the path of resistance of Gideon, which I don't see many in a position to do.
2005-02-10 19:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Thought's nice I suppose, but a few more companies would help in situations like that too, unless one is advocating the path of resistance of Gideon, which I don't see many in a position to do.[/QUOTE]
Nah; my thinking was more like this: sooner or later the Internet - as we know it today - is going to be either shut down, or openly policed to such an extent that expressions of dissent will be made at one's own peril. The social and technological machinery to do so is already in place. As we are a nation of [I]far too many [/I] laws, this would not be the first time the stroke of a pen results in Instant Criminals, either. They will simply take the line that the Net is an open invitation to predators and extremists to do their devil's work, and that the security of the many overrides the free speech rights of the(diseased) few. That the Net allows the Voiceless Many [I]some [/I] form of platform, however rickety, to speak from - that much of the content of that speech is resistant to the manufactured consensus pushed at Americans constantly, and personally offensive to the manufacturers, will [B]never [/B] be mentioned.
I suppose I could be an alarmist nut to think so, but that [I]is [/I] what I think, crazy or not; and this being the case, it behooves me to speak my mind [I]now[/I], while the opportunity and the audience is still there. I like to think that there's a reason boards like this generally have three times the lurkers as they do posters, and that reason is a whole lot of people agree fervently with a whole lot of what we're saying, but [I]they [/I] think that policing/shutdown is even more imminent than [I]I [/I] do.
If I'm right, and somebody out there is drawing succor from our adopting nobody's line but the truth as we see it, then we may even have a [I]duty [/I] to keep donning the tinfoil hat and pointing out the Emperor's fat, pimply, naked ass.
2005-02-10 22:02 | User Profile
Texas Dissident:
Thanks !
Il Ragno:
[QUOTE=il ragno]Nah; my thinking was more like this: sooner or later the Internet - as we know it today - is going to be either shut down, or openly policed to such an extent that expressions of dissent will be made at one's own peril ... I suppose I could be an alarmist nut to think so, but that [I]is [/I] what I think, crazy or not; and this being the case, it behooves me to speak my mind [I]now[/I], while the opportunity and the audience is still there. [/QUOTE]
I thoroughly agree with you there. I don't know if its much reassurance, since I am a right wing lunatic... :gunsmilie
2005-02-11 02:08 | User Profile
Hey Tex!
Jesus - you'll pardon the expression - Christ!
Ronnie James Dio?
[B][I]Ronnie James Dio?!? [/I] [/B]
The room's spinning on me! You musta run out of George Jones and Tom T Hall lyrics. Ronnie James Bleepin' DIO???
Wait - [I]There's a truth as hard as steel[/I] - in Diospeak, that can only mean the stanza finishes with "life is like a wheel". (It's the only lyric he's [I]got[/I] , that's how I know!)
What's next, I tremblingly wonder? [I]"Here I am - rock you like a hurricane"[/I]? (Well, you gotta admit, Klaus Meine looks just like Dio...and they're both four feet six!)
2005-02-11 02:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Hey Tex!
Jesus - you'll pardon the expression - Christ!
Ronnie James Dio?
[B][I]Ronnie James Dio?!? [/I] [/B]
The room's spinning on me! You musta run out of George Jones and Tom T Hall lyrics. Ronnie James Bleepin' DIO???
Wait - [I]There's a truth as hard as steel[/I] - in Diospeak, that can only mean the stanza finishes with "life is like a wheel". (It's the only lyric he's [I]got[/I] , that's how I know!)
What's next, I tremblingly wonder? [I]"Here I am - rock you like a hurricane"[/I]? (Well, you gotta admit, Klaus Meine looks just like Dio...and they're both four feet six!)[/QUOTE]
Yes, I wondered about that myself. Tex doesn't strike me as the "Dio type." He strikes me more as the "Johnny Cash type."
2005-02-11 08:11 | User Profile
:lol: See, you guys just don't know me at all. :)
I regularly move from Webb Pierce to classic Dio to Handel. Sometimes you just gotta rock. Maybe I'll dig deep and find a good Keel lyric next... :lol:
2005-02-11 16:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I believe it. Howard has a true talent for coining new terms and names like that. Didn't that particular name originate from Lucianne Goldberg's description of JimRob at the time of their split?[/QUOTE]
Yes Tex, before she skedaddled Rimjobistan with Drudge and a few thousand others Lucianne Goldberg described RimJob as a "Mean Shit" in a Salon Magazine interview. It should be Googleable, somewhere...
Coulda sworn rootin-tootin' Rasputin was due every Kudo. :D
2005-02-11 18:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]It's Meanshitvik (Menshevik is Russian for minority commie faction). I heard it from you first, actually.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if Robinson had that smart mouth before he had the protection of a wheelchair. Knowing what I know of his character, I suspect not.
2005-02-11 18:54 | User Profile
I still want to know when OD was mentioned on the television. Tex?
2005-02-11 19:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]I still want to know when OD was mentioned on the television. Tex?[/QUOTE]
I've tried to find the old thread Q, but that was so long ago that I guess it got lost in one of the several software conversions we've been through. I do remember it was started by PnBC, who no longer participates here.
Anyway, early 2002 Jonah Goldberg was on that PBS political show, maybe somebody knows the name as I can't think of it right now, and they started taking callers. After a few callers the host picks up on a call from some guy in Florida who starts drilling Goldberg asking him if he's visited 'Neo-Con Watch' at a site called originaldissent.com. Goldberg smirks a bit and seems surprised there exists such a thing. Then he goes on to dismiss anything could be defined as neo-conservatism, etc. However, we know from that point on that certain prominent factions in mainstream 'conservatism' and/or the RNC have had their eye on us.
I never did find out who that caller from Florida was, but it was an early claim to fame for our then young board and community.
2005-02-11 20:08 | User Profile
Not so ââ¬ËFree Republicââ¬â¢: The Shot Heard Around the Net
[url]http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2872[/url]
2005-02-12 02:12 | User Profile
Recluse
That was an excellent article. Worth printing out even.
There is a quote of bayourod's usual lisping nonsense in there. I think that member might also be a moderator or someone who can get IP information, because one of the times I was really clobbering him I got nuked and blocked from the site. I had to switch to another IP in order to proceed to the final strike.
2005-02-12 02:58 | User Profile
Come to think of it, that was right before I got banned.
2005-02-17 05:50 | User Profile
Interesting. Sean was bashing Free Republic today because it was getting too "fringy"
[URL=http://www.freepgs.com/mcgruff/audio/HannityOnFR.mp3]Sean Hannity Bashes Free Republic[/URL]
2005-02-17 06:07 | User Profile
Okiereddust
[QUOTE]Interesting. Sean was bashing Free Republic today because it was getting too "fringy"
Sean Hannity Bashes Free Republic[/QUOTE]
Well he did say he has not looked at the site in years, maybe he remembers it before the big purges?
2005-02-17 06:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Okiereddust
Well he did say he has not looked at the site in years, maybe he remembers it before the big purges?[/QUOTE]I guess I missed that part.
2005-02-17 07:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I guess I missed that part.[/QUOTE]
Hannity only "discovered" RimJob's after the Paleos and Nationalists were already purged--a year or two into Junior's Regime.
The FReaker hardcore proclaim any departure from 100% loyalty to the Chimp as treason...even to the fatheaded Hannity it's a recipe for unwatchable TV. :yawn:
2005-02-17 09:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Okiereddust
Well he did say he has not looked at the site in years, maybe he remembers it before the big purges?[/QUOTE]
Hold on a second here. Hannity on the one hands praises Fool republic on one hand, (I think someone here put up a post of Hannity's to Fool Republic) and now he is claiming not to have been on it in years? The link didn't work for me. It sounds to me that to "Baby J" truth is whatever is convient to him at any particular moment.
2005-02-17 13:09 | User Profile
VDARE.COM - [url]http://www.vdare.com/misc/gheen_050216_jimrob.htm[/url]
February 16, 2005 ALIPACââ¬â¢s Gheen Refutes FRââ¬â¢s JimRob
by William Gheen
[See also: VDARE.COM vs. Free Republic; Peter Brimelow On Free Republic Fracas]
At high noon on Friday, February 11, 2005, the article "Not So Free Republic: The Shot Heard Around The Net" was released to America in response to Jim Robinsonââ¬â¢s banning of many rule abiding and long term users of Free Republic that disagreed with the Bush guest worker amnesty plan.
That message was heard around the Internet and we were both humbled and awed at how rapidly the news about Free Republic traveled and how many people came to our assistance. Countless websites, forums, activists and radio shows carried the news to their audiences and Freepers began to post and pass the news to others in their community. Many were not surprised by this turn of events because of Robinsonââ¬â¢s past purges and the growing internal conflict within the GOP over immigration issues.
Robinson realized his community would eventually find this information, so he posted it himself and took a wagon train position on his own site. He has spent much of his time since then banning and suspending the accounts of countless Freepers and even members that have supported his site since the 1990ââ¬â¢s. Many others made their farewell speeches and walked out of Free Republic to never return.
Robinsonââ¬â¢s biggest mistake, besides implying he was fighting to keep Free Republic safe from secret Nazi conspiracies, was to show that the points of the original article were true for all to see. He banned true conservatives left and right in a vain attempt to control the debate while calling people names without any evidence his character attacks were true. He shot himself in the foot while that foot was placed deeply in his own mouth.
Robinson later admitted he had no direct evidence that any of the groups and individuals he banned and maligned were racists. He even admitted that he supported the Presidentââ¬â¢s guest worker plan and ran a new poll that shows Freeper conservatives are clearly opposed to the Bush immigration plan. In this case it is Mr. Robinson that represents the fringe element and has supported unsubstantiated personal attacks on his forum.
Even Sean Hannity has written off Free Republic, saying "Everyone I knew basically left because of so much childish immature personal attacks, the propensity there to eat their own." [[url=http://www.freepgs.com/mcgruff/audio/HannityOnFR.mp3]Listen to Sean Hannityââ¬â¢s Statement about Free Republic. ][/url]
Although our points have been proven and reinforced by Free Republic's closet skeletons, this fight is far from over. There is no joy in this regrettable conflict with Mr. Robinson. There is no joy in the fact that average Americans have to take historic political action to demand that our own President and Congress obey the Constitution and enforce our existing immigration laws.
We are fighting because we must; the consequences of inaction are too disastrous for our way of life, our values, and our nation.
Republicans, Democrats, Unaffiliated and 3rd Party voters along with men and women that are White, Black, Asian, and Latino support the security of our borders and the enforcement of our immigration laws. Every day more and more people are waking up to the fact that our immigration laws are being almost completely disregarded.
The main question that the Presidentââ¬â¢s men and women wonââ¬â¢t answer for us is this: Why are we giving the Federal government more power and money than ever before, deploying troops on the opposite side of the planet, and putting Americans through partial strip searches in airports to secure our nation while at the same time instructing our border patrol to stand down (catch & release) against the six to ten thousand illegal aliens streaming across our Southern border each night?
There are many more defenders of the Presidentââ¬â¢s plan that are on the kingââ¬â¢s payroll and the payrolls of those that influence the king. We must gather our supporters and engage those responsible for this travesty on the Internet, in the old guard media, on the sidewalks and desert plains, and at the ballot box.
We face superior finances and influence, but we have the wind of the vast majority of the American public at our backs and the true American Spirit in our hearts.
William Gheen is the President of Americans for Legal Immigration
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Having listen to Hannity's statement I can attest that he is a liar. I have heard him praise "Free" Republic and freakers to the moon on numerous occasions. I believe his reason for the negative comments is to plug his own website where limp wristed "Republican" ideas are encouraged.
2005-02-17 14:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Interesting. Sean was bashing Free Republic today because it was getting too "fringy"
[URL=http://www.freepgs.com/mcgruff/audio/HannityOnFR.mp3]Sean Hannity Bashes Free Republic[/URL][/QUOTE]
Rumor has it that RimJob booted some pubbie party officers, and threw the racist tag at them on their way out the door, so one or more of them may have gotten in touch with Hannity. Great! Let's hope this is the beginning of the end for that [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=63340&postcount=11]slimy little piece of [/URL] :dung:
2005-02-17 14:42 | User Profile
Recluse,
[QUOTE] slimy little piece of :dung:[/QUOTE]
Which one? Hannity or J.R?
On a more serious note I see that Fool Republic still has the links to Hannity's website. I hope it does lead to J.R.'s demise. He deserves not only to lose his sugar tit, but if CA does one day become a part of Mexico again it is my sincere hope that the Nevada State Patrol finds J.R. stranded by I-15 on the border line with only his wheelchair, minus the wheels sitting upon cinder blocks, left to his name after being plundered by the La Raza types.
2005-02-17 15:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Recluse,
Which one? Hannity or J.R?[/QUOTE]
Take your pick. You know, Vdare, one of the sites Rimjob has demonized with his [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=63340&postcount=11]goofy racism rants[/URL], runs Michelle Malkin's columns. I wonder if she said something to Hannity?
2005-02-17 15:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Recluse]Take your pick. You know, Vdare, one of the sites Rimjob has demonized with his [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=63340&postcount=11]goofy racism rants[/URL], runs Michelle Malkin's columns. I wonder if she said something to Hannity?[/QUOTE]
Yea, think about Vdare for a moment. No more Sam Francis articles but you get that demented fool Michelle Malkin instead. That unfortunate reality shows the end of the world is certainly nigh.
2005-02-17 15:51 | User Profile
Recluse,
Who knows what has been said behind closed doors, perhaps she did say something. I listen to some talk radio, though not as much as I did in the past and I think this has been driven by the listeners to these shows and Bush's ham handed way of pushing this amnesty. Neocon talk radio can't ignore this the way they, with a few notable exceptions, have in the past. While these clowns are devoted to Bush and neoconmania they are even more devoted to their own self aggrandizement. To avoid this is to risk losing their credibility with the listeners. We can only imagine how many callers on this subject haven't been allowed on the air in relation to those I have heard. I think the inner party underestimated the popular outrage over this.
2005-02-17 16:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Yea, think about Vdare for a moment. No more Sam Francis articles but you get that demented fool Michelle Malkin instead. That unfortunate reality shows the end of the world is certainly nigh.[/QUOTE]
Well, I avoid these (IMO useless) paleocon vs. White Nationalist vs. CI vs whatever squabbles like the plague. These days I have very low standards for determining who's friend or foe: Are they Bush supporters, and do they put America's interests ahead of Israel's? As far as I know, Vdare passes both tests, while Malkin fails, at least on the former, and probably the Israeli part as well.
2005-02-17 17:05 | User Profile
What's the problem with Malkin? I think she's great. She's more outspoken than any of the talking heads when it comes to immigration reform and I have never seen anything written by her that could be construed as false or biased. She's cute too!
2005-02-17 17:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OPERA96]What's the problem with Malkin?
Israel-firster, pro-interventionist.
2005-02-17 17:11 | User Profile
Mebbe so. But I've never seen anything from her like that.
2005-02-17 17:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OPERA96]Mebbe so. But I've never seen anything from her like that.[/QUOTE]
Wife of Mitch McConnell - rabid neo-con. Guilty as charged.
2005-02-17 17:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OPERA96]Mebbe so. But I've never seen anything from her like that.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=55069&postcount=7[/url]
2005-02-17 17:55 | User Profile
T.D.,
I think you are confusing Malkin with Elaine Cho, the Sec. of Labor. If I am not mistaken she is married to McConnell whereas Malkin is married to some Jew whose name I don't recall.
2005-02-17 18:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]I think you are confusing Malkin with Elaine Cho, the Sec. of Labor. If I am not mistaken she is married to McConnell whereas Malkin is married to some Jew whose name I don't recall.[/QUOTE]
You are correct, Sert. My mistake. Malkin is married to a Russian Jew, I believe.
Hard to keep up with these miscegenating Asian women. :D
2005-02-17 18:08 | User Profile
T.D.,
There's a slew of this going on. Phil Graham is married to an asian too.
2005-02-17 18:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]T.D.,
There's a slew of this going on. Phil Graham is married to an asian too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Hard to keep up with these miscegenating Asian women.[/QUOTE]
I dated an Asian girl once, Chinese, over ten years ago for almost 2 years. Whoever said that they're so much more submissive than European-American girls is a delusional liar. If anything, they have a bigger chip on their shoulders than your everyday run-of-the-mill White feminist. Asian girls are no bargain. They're for the low-esteem milquetoast White man. I saw the light, thank God.
2005-02-18 02:40 | User Profile
Freakers upset with [url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344622/posts#37]Hanniot.[/url]