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Thread ID: 16604 | Posts: 35 | Started: 2005-02-04
2005-02-04 19:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Hello, everyone. I had considered joining The Phora as an alternate to Stormfront and VNN. However, with all the weird things going on at The Phora [aka: aipac], I think I'll drop anchor here.
As an American Christian Patriot... this is probably a better choice for me anyway.
:)[/QUOTE]There was a Phantasm on VNN/TGMNN, still is, who supported Traitor Glenn Miller during the White Revolution Christmas Coup. Are you the same person?
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-04 20:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]There was a Phantasm on VNN/TGMNN, still is, who supported Traitor Glenn Miller during the White Revolution Christmas Coup. Are you the same person?
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE] It would appear so. No offense Phantasm.:)
2005-02-05 02:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]It would appear so. No offense Phantasm.:)[/QUOTE]I see that Linder's sock-puppet, AE, have put the whigger sock-puppets Dranus and Animal Enima in their OppFor (Opposition Forum) jewlag.
So now the rats run off the the mamzers on VNN/TGMNN.
What would really be funny is if I was allowed back on VNN/TGMNN's new OppFor jewlag wherein I could make fun of Traitor Glenn Miller and the whiggers and mamzers at the same time. That way there would always be one faction of both rats, mamzers, and Resistance on the outs with the other two, or all three at once. Imagine the possibilities for conflict!
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-05 02:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]I see that Linder's sock-puppet, AE, have put the whigger sock-puppets Dranus and Animal Enima in their OppFor (Opposition Forum) jewlag.
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE] yes, and I and your good friend Pixi have a bet, of sorts, going as to just how long before Intrepid is tossed into the Opp. forum. since he doesn't play too well with miller either.
2005-02-05 02:49 | User Profile
I can see now why Phora closed down, we are now getting a lot of trash from there and I can tell by the way they talk who they are.
Not all of them are trash and they know who they are.
To the power to be from OD please keep them under control or kick them out.
Here we are allowed to raise hell only against Jews, blacks, Mexican and Ponce........ bring them on.
2005-02-05 02:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]I can see now why Phora closed down, we are now getting a lot of trash from there and I can tell by the way they talk who they are.
Not all of them are trash and they know who they are.
To the power to be from OD please keep them under control or kick them out.
Here we are allowed to raise hell only against Jews, blacks, Mexican and Ponce........ bring them on.[/QUOTE] And just who is this "trash" of which you refer?????
2005-02-05 04:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]yes, and I and your good friend Pixi have a bet, of sorts, going as to just how long before Intrepid is tossed into the Opp. forum. since he doesn't play too well with miller either.[/QUOTE]I think Dranus is likely a self-absorbed jew. After all, Dranus has admitted to having a lot of non-white from Macedonia in him, Macedonia being the place where much of the Turkish army set up winter camp.
So when Dranus, along with other admitted mamzers like Animal Enima, do nothing except welcome non-whites, including Kink Tnigger, the end result is conflict, especially when the mamzers go back to fighting with Aryans like Linder and his pet rats.
Solipsism. That's what destroys and fragments the Movement outside Christian Identity. Christian Identity is pretty much in agreement, particularly since the DSL/OSL split is recognized and worked out by agreement to not cause unnecessary trouble. The $tormfront ghetto incursion being recently beaten back. The end result is now that the anti-Miller CI/WN have left or been banned, all that remains is for solipsists to fight with each other. Since Linder got rid of far better human material after the 'White Revolution' failed, the rest of the Lindermiller cultists will end up falling firmly in line behind their pet rat and Dranus and his other anonymous mamzer friends will first be OppFor jewlagged. Dranus and the rest of the mamzer whiners isn't really a danger to the Lindermillerites, so I suspect that they won't be banned. Those who were banned were those who wouldn't ever see 'reason' in dealing with ZOG rats.
[url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=14893"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=14893[/url]
By the way, I'm not oafishully banned on VNN/TGMNN. Rather I'm de facto banned by means of password deletion or change. Linder's little fat sock-puppet AE has said that I'm on permaban, along with Tubby Covington, but it was Moronicunt who I suspect of doing the deed.
Insofar as Trick-she is concerned, what with her trying to straddle both Traitor Glenn Miller and Dranus, I'd say she is more of a horny, horny hippo than a hungry, hungry hippo. Any day now I expect to see her chasing the Oscar Meyer wienermobile, and not just because she is hungry for wieners.
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-05 05:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]I see that Linder's sock-puppet, AE, have put the whigger sock-puppets Dranus and Animal Enima in their OppFor (Opposition Forum) jewlag.
So now the rats run off the the mamzers on VNN/TGMNN.
What would really be funny is if I was allowed back on VNN/TGMNN's new OppFor jewlag wherein I could make fun of Traitor Glenn Miller and the whiggers and mamzers at the same time. That way there would always be one faction of both rats, mamzers, and Resistance on the outs with the other two, or all three at once. Imagine the possibilities for conflict!
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE]They're closing in on me, Martin, with Sgt. Smirnoff leading the pack. Toss a couple of your jugs behind me as I pass, if you would be so kind. Hopefully, it will help them to lose the scent.
2005-02-05 05:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Intrepid]They're closing in on me, Martin, with Sgt. Smirnoff leading the pack. Toss a couple of your [piss] jugs behind me as I pass, if you would be so kind. Hopefully, it will help them to lose the scent.[/QUOTE] Malicious, but hilarious. :cheers:
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-05 05:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Intrepid]They're closing in on me, Martin, with Sgt. Smirnoff leading the pack. Toss a couple of your jugs behind me as I pass, if you would be so kind. Hopefully, it will help them to lose the scent.[/QUOTE] Yes, from his most recent posts, it would seem that Miller is onto your master plan. From your condo in Israel, you are leading a pack of Jewish wolves to turn VNNers against all the great Muslim and Arab peoples of the world. What do you have to say in your defense?:caiphas:
2005-02-05 06:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]Yes, from his most recent posts, it would seem that Miller is onto your master plan. From your condo in Israel, you are leading a pack of Jewish wolves to turn VNNers against all the great Muslim and Arab peoples of the world. What do you have to say in your defense?:caiphas:[/QUOTE]Well, with Martin's assistance, I've been able to beat a quick retreat to my new confines in Haifa (see pic below). My two stateside AIPAC/Hillel operatives may have been nabbed, but when you own America, this is only a temporary setback.
Your query, however, is a difficult one to answer. When you have the loyal cadre of crack VNNFers cheering on the brave Chechen warriors in their mighty battle with 12-year-old Russian girls, well, you see what I'm up against. At present, that's all I'm able to go into.
Best, Yoram
[img]http://www.imagenesdeisrael.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Imagenes_de_Haifa/Haifa_Israel_small.jpg[/img]
2005-02-05 06:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Intrepid]Well, with Martin's assistance, I've been able to beat a quick retreat to my new confines in Haifa (see pic below). My two stateside AIPAC/Hillel operatives may have been nabbed, but when you own America, this is only a temporary setback.
Your query, however, is a difficult one to answer. When you have the loyal cadre of crack VNNFers cheering on the brave Chechen warriors in their mighty battle with 12-year-old Russian girls, well, you see what I'm up against. At present, that's all I'm able to go into.
Best, Yoram
[img]http://www.imagenesdeisrael.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Imagenes_de_Haifa/Haifa_Israel_small.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Well Yoram, Don't give up so easily. With your people's god-like superior intelligence and ability to brainwash everybody, through no fault of their own, it should be relatively easy for you to accomplish this seemingly great feat. I wish to confess now, that I am also one of the tribe, see my location?
2005-02-05 07:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]There was a Phantasm on VNN/TGMNN, still is, who supported Traitor Glenn Miller during the White Revolution Christmas Coup. Are you the same person?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=starr]It would appear so. No offense Phantasm. ...[/QUOTE] None taken starr. :smile:
Marty... the dispute over Glenn Miller being a traitor was the topic of argument during the White Revolution Christmas Coup. We all had our disagreements... about Miller and the Coup. However, many who participated in the debate did not adhere to the honorable standards of conduct to which White folk are expected to adhere. You were one of them. And that is why your freedom on that board has been limited.
In the interest of decorum... I'd rather not reopen this matter. But if anyone here has a strong interest [and a strong stomach], I invite you to go over to VNN and take a look. Many of the threads from the last half of December 2004 are still intact.
:tank:
2005-02-05 07:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]None taken starr. :)
Marty... the dispute over Glenn Miller being a traitor was the topic of argument during the White Revolution Christmas Coup. We all had our disagreements... about Miller and the Coup. However, many who participated in the debate did not adhere to the honorable standards of conduct to which White folk are expected to adhere. You were one of them. And that is why your freedom on that board has been limited.
In the interest of decorum... I'd rather not reopen this matter. But if anyone here has a strong interest [and a strong stomach], I invite you to go over to VNN and take a look. Many of the threads from the last half of December 2004 are still intact.
:tank:[/QUOTE] Phantasm is/was one of the Traitor Glenn Miller supporters. The Resistance line is that anyone supporting Traitor Glenn Miller is either a fool or a traitor or both.
Since Phantasm is both a fool and a traitor, then it is to be expected that Phantasm supports my banning from VNN/TGMNN as one of the more determined of the coup supporters. However, I did not support censorship of Traitor Glenn Miller -- after all how can I heap more contempt to a self-admitted race-mixer and ZOG snitch -- but rather White Revolution taking both its v-bulletin software and its web hosting, and thus splitting both irreconcilable parties each to do its own thing in its own forum. White Revolution didn't take my advice.
Now VNN/TGMNN is getting rid of further dissent and phorafags/feebs is dead meat until such time as Fake The Flake brings up his own nuthouse for whiggers, we see Phantasm pontificating about what is 'honorable White behavior,' i.e. supporting race-mixing and ratting on comrades who gave you $200,000. ODES will end up taking on more refugees, mainly phorafag/feeb and VNN/TGMNN whiggers, unless ODES decides that they wish to remain the League of Self-Satisfied Stuffy Paleocons.
By all means, look at the archives at VNN/TGMNN. See how that train wreck played out.
What I am interested in is why exactly you are here on ODES, Phantasm. After all, Miller has remade VNN into TGMNN, and as a Lindermillerite in good standing, there should be no reason why a rat-supporter should leave a rat-dominated ship. Unless, of course, Miller is about to turn in the Linder(s) amongst the millerites. Well, I suppose even rats get tired of living amongst their own kind on a sinking ratship.
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-05 09:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]By all means, look at the archives at VNN/TGMNN. See how that train wreck played out. [/QUOTE]You think you could throw in some links here to give us a good idea who haven't kept up with VNN what you're talking about? Besides OD its quite a bit of working keeping up with all the things going on at Phora, SF, LF and AmRen, these days, to name just the basically un-PC forums.
2005-02-08 07:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]... What I am interested in is why exactly you are here on ODES, Phantasm. ...[/QUOTE] Its really quite simple Marty...I'm looking for an alternative to Stormfront and VNN. Although I plan to continue posting on both of those boards... I'd like to get a broader spectrum of ideas about political activism and life in general. Stormfront and VNN both have their own characteristics and I wish to venture out and see what others are doing. :cool:
[QUOTE=Okiereddust] You think you could throw in some links here to give us a good idea who haven't kept up with VNN what you're talking about? ...[/QUOTE] Here are a couple of gems:
[URL]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13254&highlight=Roper[/URL]
[URL]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13469&highlight=Roper[/URL]
Some of the posts and avatars are missing because White Revolution members and their supporters were thoroughly mauled during the siege. Subsequently, they requested that their posts be pulled.
:smile:
2005-02-08 08:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Its really quite simple Marty...I'm looking for an alternative to Stormfront and VNN. Although I plan to continue posting on both of those boards... I'd like to get a broader spectrum of ideas about political activism and life in general. Stormfront and VNN both have their own characteristics and I wish to venture out and see what others are doing. :cool: Thanks for venturing Phantasm. Hope you find what you're looking for.
Here are a couple of gems:
[URL]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13254&highlight=Roper[/URL]
[URL]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13469&highlight=Roper[/URL]
Some of the posts and avatars are missing because White Revolution members and their supporters were thoroughly mauled during the siege. Subsequently, they requested that their posts be pulled.
:smile:[/QUOTE] Appreciate the links. We've obviously gone somewhat different paths, but its good when people familar with things somewhere else can give others like us in the broad nationalist community a little succinct summary of what's going on. It helps us communicate better, which because of our philosophical differences isn't always easy.
2005-02-09 03:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Its really quite simple Marty...I'm looking for an alternative to Stormfront and VNN. Although I plan to continue posting on both of those boards... I'd like to get a broader spectrum of ideas about political activism and life in general. Stormfront and VNN both have their own characteristics and I wish to venture out and see what others are doing. :cool:
Here are a couple of gems:
[url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13254&highlight=Roper"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13254&highlight=Roper[/url]
[url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13469&highlight=Roper"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13469&highlight=Roper[/url]
Some of the posts and avatars are missing because White Revolution members and their supporters were thoroughly mauled during the siege. Subsequently, they requested that their posts be pulled.
:)[/QUOTE]Phantasm was/is one of the Traitor Glenn Miller supporters. Recently VNN/TGMNN decided to go with Sgt. Snitch/Traitor Glenn Miller and have accordingly banned their jewvenile whigger and mamzer element contributing nothing except being theysselfs. Intrepid is now here on ODES, from his condo in Isn'tReal. He's not able to "Defend Western Noir" like he used to on VNN/TGMNN.
Mighty big bowel Movement around, and try as one might, one can never get rid of all of one's enemies, as myself and the genuine Identity Christians, Order fans, and Old Resistance has found out in trying to get rid of Traitor Glenn Miller and the spawn of Satan have found out concerning us Dual-Seedliners.
Well, Phantasm, why not go spy on what the WR crew has going -- they managed to get enough ZOGbux to pay for their own v-bulletin software and so they have their revamped Focus-14 Forum. And, with their time, they now write new articles for their web page as well.
Tell them Sgt. Snitch sent you, Phantasm, and burn off an alias or two. :thumbsup:
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-09 04:39 | User Profile
this is just too funny, I was joking when I said this, since he only seemed to be hinting at it, but it seems that Miller, actually believes this to be the case:
[QUOTE] Hey Sheer Terror !!! The above is just one example of Intrepid's stated preferences for the GD kikes and Israel. Fact is, his main purpose on VNNF is to turn VNN'ers against the Arab/Muslim enemies of ZOG, Israel, and International jewry. Ditto for Draco and The Animal Enema. [/QUOTE] Do you think miller also hits the bottle just a little to often, like Steve B? Or does his form of insanity run a bit more deeper then mere alcoholic delusions?
2005-02-09 05:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]this is just too funny, I was joking when I said this, since he only seemed to be hinting at it, but it seems that Miller, actually believes this to be the case:
Do you think miller also hits the bottle just a little to often, like Steve B? Or does his form of insanity run a bit more deeper then mere alcoholic delusions?[/QUOTE]They've lost their collective minds this evening, led by Momus' porno-laced vernacular. I really think that Miller's combination of owning a huge ego, as well as suffering from a marble deficiency, are a deadly concoction. His comments regarding his family were particularly disgusting.
They're jealous of my oceanfront view, I say. :thumbsup:
2005-02-09 05:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Intrepid]They've lost their collective minds this evening, led by Momus' porno-laced vernacular. I really think that Miller's combination of owning a huge ego, as well as suffering from a marble deficiency, are a deadly concoction. His comments regarding his family were particularly disgusting.
They're jealous of my oceanfront view, I say. :thumbsup:[/QUOTE] What the hell is with Momus, he seems almost as unstable as Miller, lately.
2005-02-09 06:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]What the hell is with Momus, he seems almost as unstable as Miller, lately.[/QUOTE]To say the least. He's full of similiar rhetorical overkill, but with a ghetto negroe's tounge. Truth be told, in reality, he's a good fit for VNN.
2005-02-09 06:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]this is just too funny, I was joking when I said this, since he only seemed to be hinting at it, but it seems that Miller, actually believes this to be the case:
Do you think miller also hits the bottle just a little to often, like Steve B? Or does his form of insanity run a bit more deeper then mere alcoholic delusions?[/QUOTE]Traitor Glenn Miller in real life looks like an alcoholic. It's caused by Miller's terror of those he has been playing with over the years who hold grudges.
I had him visit me at my mother's trailer at the foot of the hill from my house where I have my office back in Aug. 2000. The place was -- still is -- cluttered with papers and computer junk. I was yakking about my new e-machines 500mhz Celeron computer & 15" monitor which had cost me $400 the month before as well as yakking about how I was in touch with Louis Beam and Katya Lane when Miller gasped, "I was in the Federal Witness Protection Program but nobody went to jail as a result of my testimony like it says in the book I gave you" and ran out of the trailer. I was wondering what that was all about and then got out from behind my new computer and went outside and talked to him while he sat in his Geo or Yugo or whatever. Miller was no longer hyperventilating. Of course since then Miller tells his own story about this event, with the dates and times changed, and all about how there was a smell of urine in a trailer which didn't have anyone living there.
Later that day, I contacted Louis Beam and Katya Lane, David Lane's wife, and yes, they knew Traitor Glenn Miller. They gave me an earful. Nothing is forgiven, nothing is forgotten. I figured out that Miller simply didn't know who he was dealing with, and thought when the subject rolled around to 'old friends' that this big, 6'2" 240 lb man was toying with him, probably about to pull out a knife or gun, and end the career of a ZOG rat. Louis Beam especially enjoyed me recounting how Miller lives in terror that the next one of his contacts might kill him in 'self-defense' or that ZOG might cash in on one of its rats. The only thing with a short life expectantcy than a 'useful idiot' is a useless idiot.
Traitor Glenn Miller, in his book, talks about how he run out on his comrades in Greensboro, NC, in 1979 in his book.
[url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/chapter3.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/chapter3.html[/url]
Of course, as a retired lifer in the late 70's, all the lifers drank. Us short-timers in the Army called the 'careerists' lifers and said that it stood for "Lazy Ignorant F*cker Expecting Retirement Soon." We really despised the Drunken Lifer Corps. I, like a lot of other smart White boys, especially the two-year enlistees in Fire Direction & Control for artillery or Field Artillery Surveyers, something that required mathematical ability, were in it only for the kollidge edjewcation ZOG-bux. My MOS, for FDC of ground-launched battlefield nukes, carried with it the highest 'kicker' of $15,000 in the Armed Farces.
The short-timers loved their hash and the lifers used both hash and booze. A bottle of Johnny Walker that cost $5 or Marlboros for $2 a carton sold well to heavily taxed Europeans who paid $30 or $20 in 1981-83 prices. The lifers both smoked and boozed. Sgt. Snitch retired during the Carter Army, when all a lifer had to do was to show up, drunk.
So Sgt. Snitch, or Smirnoff according to Dranus, is a cowardly alcoholic. Sgt. Snitch lives in actual fear that sooner, rather than upon ZOG's demise, that it's the end of the road for Sgt. Snitch and his family of baby traitors. Sgt. Snitch well knows what kind of men he narked on, and they neither forgive nor forget.
Sgt. Snitch probably worked for ZOG before his retirement. I'm sure that ZOG got something on him even before he took the $200,000 or whatever from the Order, and that he was narking even before then. I got permission from Louis Beam to publish Sgt. Snitch's book out on the Internet back in Feb. 2001. The purpose was to show how ZOG uses, abuses, and recruits traitors in no way different than the KGB or East German Stazi did. Sgt. Snitch was sending out packets in January and February of 2004, prompting me ask him since he had so many ZOGbux why not run for US Senate since I was running for Governor of Missouri. Traitor Glenn ran hot and cold, like ZOG was turning his switch, and eventually ZOG told Traitor Glenn Miller what I had actually said about him on the Internet. So Traitor Glenn Miller called me up, said that I had demeaned his non-existent manhood, and for me to never contact him again. Then he had Linder print up his apologia for being a rat.
[url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/copyrite.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/copyrite.html[/url]
It wasn't Billy Roper who initiated the Christmas Coup on VNN. Roper simply was pressured by both Christian Identity and Order followers that he couldn't serve both Linder and the Resistance. Roper did what he had to do, which was ban Miller and make Linder find his own server. Anyone either pro- or anti-Lindermiller knows what happened then.
Traitor Glenn Miller isn't dangerous to those who know who and what he is. Miller has been trying to get into the Reform Party, I shot him down myself at the Reform Party National Convention in Nashville Tenn. back in July 2001. Miller hasn't given up on narking and spying and hustling for ZOG. Linder is already co-opted and assimilated into ZOG already.
So for you jewvenile whiggers and mamzers sent to the VNN/TGMNN OppForum jewlag, it's not because you are 'dangerous' or 'principled' but rather that through an IP trace they already know who and where you are, but realize that like the Italian army, your kind is only dangerous to 'your' side, other than yoursselfs. Your kind isn't dangerous, merely selfish and goofy and of no use to anyone or anything.
Don't worry. The Lindermillerite rag will continue to be published, same as ZOG sells 'kits' instructing feebs how to turn a semi-auto AR-15 to full automatic fire. Sgt. Snitch got a lot of ZOG-bux to spend, an insatiable desire to get into the Movement machinery, a license to ill from the paytriots-for-profit, and he'll have the whigger nutsionalists marching in lockstep to the slaughterhouse, just like he did nearly 20 years ago. Nothing left of the White Patriot Party but the judas goats. They yap the yap and their feeb followers go to prison. Nothing is cheaper to fund than a 'false resistance' operation because fools never learn.
Yes, I met Traitor Glenn Miller. He is cowardly, drunken, a blowhard, a liar, and a traitor, but the rat definitely has a low jew-like animal cunning. Look how many people he's sent to prison, and still the fools line up, even though Miller admits to being a race-mixer and a rat. Who goes into the Witness Protection Program except federal [false] witnesses? I have to laugh at Terrible Tommy Metzger's hard-bitten cynicism about the kind of idiots unable to learn anything from the horrendous calamities of those who used to be young back in the late 70s and early 80's from association with Traitor Glenn Miller. Traitor Glenn Miller does tend to weed out those fools who deserve to die for their stupidity. Ravening ZOG-dogs amongst the Movement sheep we shall have with us always until both ZOG and whiggers are done for.
See: The Movement Turd of December 2004 [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/turd1204.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/turd1204.html[/url]
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-10 08:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... Well, Phantasm, why not go spy on what the WR crew has going -- they managed to get enough ZOGbux to pay for their own v-bulletin software and so they have their revamped Focus-14 Forum. And, with their time, they now write new articles for their web page as well.
Tell them Sgt. Snitch sent you, Phantasm, and burn off an alias or two. [/QUOTE] I have no interest in going over to the White Revolution forum Marty. My encounter with them during the VNN Hijacking was more than enough for me. And if I may... let me suggest that you attempt to act in an honorable manner for a change. :cool:
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... Yes, I met Traitor Glenn Miller. He is cowardly, drunken, a blowhard, a liar, and a traitor, but the rat definitely has a low jew-like animal cunning. Look how many people he's sent to prison, and still the fools line up, even though Miller admits to being a race-mixer and a rat. Who goes into the Witness Protection Program except federal [false] witnesses? ...[/QUOTE] Marty... you're not only trailer trash... you're a liar as well. This nonsense has all been hashed out on the treads which I posted above. Miller went into witness protection because the ââ¬ÅOrder Ratsââ¬Â had an established behavioral pattern of killing their own people. Remember Walter West? And you have yet to demonstrate that anyone has served one day of jail time because of testimony from Glenn Miller.
BTW Marty... have you told the folks here at Original Dissent about your court mandated psychological drug prescriptions? :wacko:
2005-02-10 18:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]BTW Marty... have you told the folks here at Original Dissent about your court mandated psychological drug prescriptions? :wacko:[/QUOTE]And its supposed to be working? :wacko:
Seriously, among the DS -CI I've seen, here, Martin certainly isn't unique. Maybe he should offer to share :biggrin:
2005-02-10 21:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Fagtasm]I have no interest in going over to the White Revolution forum Marty. My encounter with them during the VNN Hijacking was more than enough for me. And if I may... let me suggest that you attempt to act in an honorable manner for a change. :cool: By 'honorable behavior' Fagtasm means sucking up to a self-confessed ZOG rat and race-mixer, i.e., Traitor Glenn Miller. The VNN/TGMNN 'hijacking' is the term used to describe what White Revolution called running v-bulletin software on a WR server by a WR moderator. It is called by White Revolution an 'eviction' or a divorce. By the lindermillerites it is called a 'hijacking.'
White Revolution didn't want to do this initially, but was put under pressure from the CI and Order Old and New Resistance to do so.
If I had been in charge of it, I'd have simply handed Linder a CD with the database on it to the time of the eviction and told Linder and Miller to take a hike. My position is that Miller's threads shouldn't have been deleted -- after all Miller admits to being a Federal informant and race-mixer. Nor have I ever said that Miller said anything that Miller hasn't already documented.
Fagtasm's lindermillerite lemming position seems to be one of unswerving loyalty to the self-serving Boy Blunder who has talent in one field only -- writing and publishing whigger nutsionalist and net-nutzi propaganda. Not that there is anything wrong with that -- but getting in bed with ZOG rats doesn't mean a free pass -- no matter how good the Boy Blunder is at that.
Grow up or get out, Fagtasm. Linder is largely a finished force within White Nationalism due to the company he keeps. You can hide like a typical whigger, but your're not accomplishing anything. You belong on VNN/TGMNN tormenting Dranus and Animal Enema on the VNN/TGMNN OppForum jewlag.
[QUOTE=Fagtasm] Marty... you're not only trailer trash... you're a liar as well. This nonsense has all been hashed out on the treads which I posted above. Miller went into witness protection because the “Order Rats” had an established behavioral pattern of killing their own people. Remember Walter West? And you have yet to demonstrate that anyone has served one day of jail time because of testimony from Glenn Miller.
BTW Marty... have you told the folks here at Original Dissent about your court mandated psychological drug prescriptions? :wacko:[/QUOTE]No Fagtasm. The matter has indeed been hashed out. Support a known traitor, rat, and race-mixer or support Resistance freedom fighters, both CI and Order. You prefer to support traitors, rats, and race-mixers. Fine. The VNN/TGMNN threads from the Christmas Coup are available for those who want to read them.
Fagstasm, along with Franco, simply cannot be reasoned with in this matter. They have their dogma, every whigger dog has itz dogma, and that there can be rehabilitation for the rats, and that ZOG is only out to help honest rats live for lying at sedition trials.
Get a life, and use your real name if you wish to have any credibility. Traitor Glenn Miller has to use its real name because it wants back in, to finish off whigger jackoffs like yourself. Untill you do real deeds and in your own name, you are fighting way out of your league, Fagstasm.
Your crack about my needing medication is worthy only of a lying whigger bitch, Fagstasm, lindermillerite lemming. You call me a liar, then say something about some kort order. Well, it's news to me. Produce this kort order, Fagtasm
What I need and want is payback. I'll get it too, eventually.
--Martin Lindstedt Malleus Traitor Glenn Miller
2005-02-11 03:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust] And its supposed to be working? ... Seriously, among the DS -CI I've seen, here, Martin certainly isn't unique. Maybe he should offer to share... [/QUOTE] Point taken Okiereddust. I've been snooping around the White Nationalist Boards for about 2 ý years now... and I've noticed four very distinct psychological characteristics that are prevalent in the movement: 1)Those who indulge in psychotic fantasies [stringing-up race traitors and non-Whites]; 2)Those who are vehemently anti-Christian; 3)Those who practice idealogical elitism [only Wotan and National Socialism will save us]; 4)Those who promote criminal hero worship [ââ¬ÅThe Orderââ¬Â groupies].
Sadly... group number four actually dominates the White Nationalist movement right now. This is really the reason that I've ventured out to Original Dissent. Until mentally stable and honorable people get politically active... I don't foresee any positive change occurring in our society.
:wink:
2005-02-11 03:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... Fagtasm's lindermillerite lemming position seems to be one of unswerving loyalty to the self-serving Boy Blunder who has talent in one field only -- writing and publishing whigger nutsionalist and net-nutzi propaganda. ...[/QUOTE] Nice try Marty. Interested parties are welcome to investigate on their own. As usual... you've already discredited yourself with your linguistic slurs and vulgar rhetoric. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... Your crack about my needing medication is worthy only of a lying whigger bitch, Fagstasm, lindermillerite lemming. You call me a liar, then say something about some kort order. Well, it's news to me. Produce this kort order, Fagtasm ...[/QUOTE] Since I can't confirm that charge at this moment... I'll back off of that assertion... for now. It may interest you to know Marty... that I tried to get Fade The Butcher to confirm that charge when it was made. Observe my bona fides below...
[URL]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13422&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Lindstedt+medication[/URL]
BTW Marty... I reserve the right to reopen this issue once I obtain the ââ¬Åevidence.ââ¬Â :cool:
2005-02-11 08:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Point taken Okiereddust. I've been snooping around the White Nationalist Boards for about 2 ý years now... and I've noticed four very distinct psychological characteristics that are prevalent in the movement: 1)Those who indulge in psychotic fantasies [stringing-up race traitors and non-Whites]; 2)Those who are vehemently anti-Christian; 3)Those who practice idealogical elitism [only Wotan and National Socialism will save us]; 4)Those who promote criminal hero worship [“The Order” groupies].
Sadly... group number four actually dominates the White Nationalist movement right now. This is really the reason that I've ventured out to Original Dissent. Until mentally stable and honorable people get politically active... I don't foresee any positive change occurring in our society.
:wink:[/QUOTE]Fagtasm is a typical whigger feeb supporting Traitor Glenn Miller on VNN/TGMNN. Never mentioned is how some anonymous whigger feeb supporting a known traitor, ZOG informant and race-mixer benefits White Nationalism. In fact, other than Linder, no name Movement leader other than Ron Doggett slumming from the Duke organization will have anything to do with Traitor Glenn Miller.
So Fagtasm, in common with Traitor Glenn Miller supporters, is a liar or a regime-criminal or both. I'd say both because 'normal' everyday self-serving whiggers are not in any way around the Movement. And Fagstasm has no impediment to lying the most ridiculous lies -- for example that there is a kort order for me to take medications. When challenged on this obvious lie, Fagstasm blames what another whigger said.
The mark of some feeb or ZOG rat is simply insisting that they can stay anonymous, yet whatever they lie will be believed, at least by some other feeb or ZOG rat. After all if they get caught, what are the consequences? Having to come up with another Internut a-lie-ass?
Let's look at Fagtasm's delusions concerning 'prevalent' in the Movement:
1)Those who indulge in psychotic fantasies [stringing-up race traitors and non-Whites];
OK, then what exactly is a Movement activist to propose? That we merely deny welfare benefits to non-whites after they are the majority voters in this ZOGland?
Or, having genetic specific weaponry, that these new, improved 'small-pox blankets' be used, not only against the mud flood in this country, but cutting it off at its source. So far from being a [fagtasm] fantasy the extermination of non-whites is the only final solution which works. Unless we are all White, then we will not have a White nation.
Extermination of regime criminals a fantasy? Today, maybe. Tomorrow, something to live for, and given sufficient ruthlessness, something which can be accomplished. Now of course Fagtasm loves Sgt. Snitch and as such dreads the 'Day of the Rope.' But itz coming, as Linder before becoming a millerlinderite used to say.
2)Those who are vehemently anti-Christian;
As a matter of fact, I think they're nuts too. The only stable element in White Nationalism is the Christian Identity element, especially the Dual-Seedliners and definitely not the Gabbyrelle and Klunt femnishevik baal-priestess element. I'd like to work with Christian Stormtroopers exclusively, all 100 legions of them, if I could. Since all I have to work with outside my fellow Identity Christians are Movement turds, well, thank YHWH for a strong stomach developed from years of political activism.
So we take the Anti-ZOG element as it is. I tell the niggers all the time that GAIDS was developed by the Evil jews by the CIA to kill niggers, something niggers have no trouble believing, and for them to kill a few piglice and lawyers for payback. I've worn my LA Riot VCR tapes to a frazzle, looking at niggers killing pigs and pigs killing niggers. As I look at it, ZOG loses and my side wins if the bodycount is sufficiently high. Now if I can overlook niggers killing ZOGling whiggers and piglice, I fail to see why I should get overly angry with Wodenists and a-theists, other than known traitors, like Sgt. Snitch. See, again Fagstasm is not only shooting blanks, but acts like a mushroom in the dark and feeding off of shit.
3)Those who practice idealogical elitism [only Wotan and National Socialism will save us];
So? Who cares what they 'think' as long as they do their part? Us Identity Christians don't really care what non-CI people think, if they were to think. We're right and they're wrong. So much so that we let them think otherwise as long as they do their part in fighting ZOG. That's why ZOG is scared of Christian Identity. We are able to work with what we got.
4)Those who promote criminal hero worship [“The Order” groupies].
Sounds like a whigger idiot yapping Sgt. Snitch's lies. The whigger idiot in this case being Fagstasm, not Franco.
Every Resistance needs its heros and martyrs. The Order members, bothe Christian Identity and non-CI, like David Lane, are heroes and martyrs. Just like Traitor Glenn Miller and Dan Gayman are judasses. So anyone deviating from respecting and revering Resistance Saints are probable traitors.
I've never found it to be a problem in honoring the memory of Pastor Butler, and the Identity Christian members of the Order, and thus by extension to honor their fighting comrades like David Lane and Bob Matthews. Nor have the Christian Identity pastors like Butler, Gulett and Gerhardt. It was Gulett and Gerhardt who thrashed up the Movement tidal wave that forced Roper to carry out the Christmas Coup 'eviction' of the millerlinderites of TGMNN on the White Revolution server, bringing up the past, and now forcing Fagtasm from the VNN/TGMNN ghetto to spew its black death from its rat guts onto uninfected forums. Face it, Fagtasm, the Movement is pretty much united against Traitor Glenn Miller and his Boy Blunder Linder. That's because Traitor Glenn Miller, in his testilying against the Old Resistance tried to send up both the Christian Identity and non-CI Old Resistance. Thus ZOG pretty much united what were mainly a bunch of alpha males working separately. Nobody doubted that the White men accused at Ft. Smith all hated ZOG. What the jury found unbelievable was that all these White men, Resistance leaders, were ever able to set aside their differences and petty hatreds and ever hatch anything like a seditious conspiracy involving anything. And that is how Traitor Glenn Miller jewstifies hisself -- that 'nobody,' except maybe Order 'rats' ever went to jail as a direct result of his testilying. While Sgt. Snitch's lies may even be correct, that doesn't mean that this judas isn't hated as such, and rightfully so.
So Fagtasm, jewr wrong or deliberately lying for four out of four. Our People have always held those who were negligent on the field of battle responsible for their mistakes, even if well meaning. Be it sleeping on sentry duty. For that one could be shot. But even worse, as jew've tried to do, to introduce an enemy spy or agent provacateur within our camp. For that you would be hung like a treasonous dog, as such you are, and it would be up to the commandant as to whether, like the regime criminals of Ahab's regime, your carcass was to be devoured by the dogs in the city or the birds in the field.
Whiggers shouldn't play at Revolution. Nor should you try to be on both sides or peddle ZOG lies within the Camp of the Saints. If racially you are white, then if the White side loses, then there is nothing left for your self survival. Better grow up quick or you won't live long enough, if either side wins, to live at all.
--Martin Lindstedt Resistance Revolutionary
2005-02-11 09:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Nice try Marty. Interested parties are welcome to investigate on their own. As usual... you've already discredited yourself with your linguistic slurs and vulgar rhetoric. :rolleyes: Such a sanctimonious liar, jew're.
I've not been credibly charged as a liar. Rather, I'm charged with being mean to my enemies. Something that the White man has always been to racial enemies.
Itz a Genesis 3:15 thang. Something you spawn of Satan would understand.
[QUOTE=Phantasm] Since I can't confirm that charge at this moment... I'll back off of that assertion... for now. It may interest you to know Marty... that I tried to get Fade The Butcher to confirm that charge when it was made. Observe my bona fides below...
[url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13422&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Lindstedt+medication"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13422&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Lindstedt+medication[/url]
BTW Marty... I reserve the right to reopen this issue once I obtain the “evidence.” :cool:[/QUOTE]Today I'm friends with FakeTheFlake and removed from his jewlag. Yesterday, an enemy. Tomorrow, who knows?
Now have I changed, ever, the past few months? I doubt it. Looking back at my posts a decade ago, I said that a war of extermination against ZOG and ZOGlings was necessary. That's what got me kicked off of many a militia listserver.
But I'd be Traitor Glenn Miller's, and Linder's, and Fagtasm's butthole buddy right now if only I had said that a little racial treason was acceptable, be it ratting out The Order or sundry race-mixing. You see, loyalty to whigger offal means having no principles at all. And they are so self-serving that they simply cannot understand that one is loyal to one's own People first, because your own flesh and blood, your kin, is all that shall endure in this valley of tears long after you are gone. (Most of them are not worth the sacrifice, but 95% of them never ever were anyway.) And they dare to call themselves White, much less White Nationalists, these lying mangy moral lepers. Words fail me to describe how contemptable they are to me. Yes, I met Linder in Topeka, and knew that such was his self-worship that he would 'turn' traitor upon the slightest setback. Now to me Linder is nothing more than a dead man walking, a zombie of self-worship, with the poison of a rat-bite coursing in its veins.
There is nothing to reopen. No jewdge in Newton County or anywhere in Missouri have issued an illegal order concerning medications against myself. Judge Perigo has issued an order making the one of his piglice follow me everywhere in the Newton County korthouse since July 2004. And so I'm followed by at least one, often two, sometimes three, and once four piglice whenever in the korthouse. And I treat them like with the uttermost contempt and disdain, loudly repeating for public consumption whatever dirt I've been able to get on them. And yes, I've had pubic 'servants' call up on the cell phones when they see me coming but out of my earshot. (One of my little spies told me, with amazement.) So yes, I'm hated and feared. And I've often been accused of being a sociopath, something that I've admitted to their faces could be justly said about me by regime criminals concerned for the safety of their spawn.
But that is besides the point, Fagtasm. It is yourself who repeated the lie. Whether it was said by some other fool or liar is irrelevant.
You are responsible for the lies you tell, not others. You should have been born a daughter of Eve, as she never could say no to a mamzer in snakesskin.
--Martin Lindstedt
2005-02-12 05:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt] Fagtasm is a typical whigger feeb supporting Traitor Glenn Miller on VNN/TGMNN. Never mentioned is how some anonymous whigger feeb supporting a known traitor, ZOG informant and race-mixer benefits White Nationalism. ...[/QUOTE] Thank you for demonstrating my assertion that we need ââ¬Åmentally stable and honorable peopleââ¬Â in the movement Marty.
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... And Fagstasm has no impediment to lying the most ridiculous lies -- for example that there is a kort order for me to take medications. When challenged on this obvious lie, Fagstasm blames what another whigger said. ...[/QUOTE] I gave the reference for my allegation and because it was not verified... I backed off. Based on other admissions that you've made on VNNF... I suspect the allegations are probably true. Although I have no desire to pursue you around any forums Marty... I reserve the right to revisit this issue should the ââ¬Åevidenceââ¬Â surface.
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... Let's look at Fagtasm's delusions concerning 'prevalent' in the Movement: ...[/QUOTE] Marty... your ramblings are close to being incoherent. I have no objection to serious debate... even when the participants are so diametrically opposed... as you and I are on these issues. However, your sophomoric mangling of the English language shows a blatant disregard for all propriety... including a total disrespect for the forum you happen to be posting on. Furthermore, I make every attempt to verify information that I use in my posts unless the information is generally known to be true. If I do find myself playing ââ¬Åfast and looseââ¬Â with the facts... I make every effort to ââ¬Åcome clean.ââ¬Â
I'll make you a deal Marty... you make an effort to behave in a respectable manner... and I'll make every reasonable effort to respect you. Just remember... respect is a two-way street.
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... There is nothing to reopen. No jewdge in Newton County or anywhere in Missouri have issued an illegal order concerning medications against myself. Judge Perigo has issued an order making the one of his piglice follow me everywhere in the Newton County korthouse since July 2004. ...[/QUOTE] And I suppose the court didn't take your children away from you either? :smoke:
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... So yes, I'm hated and feared. And I've often been accused of being a sociopath, something that I've admitted to their faces... ...[/QUOTE] Oh really? What a surprise ! :wacko:
2005-02-13 03:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phagtasm]Thank you for demonstrating my assertion that we need “mentally stable and honorable people” in the movement Marty.
I gave the reference for my allegation and because it was not verified... I backed off. Based on other admissions that you've made on VNNF... I suspect the allegations are probably true. Although I have no desire to pursue you around any forums Marty... I reserve the right to revisit this issue should the “evidence” surface.
Phagtasm is a supporter of Traitor Glenn Miller. It got caught in a lie, i.e., that some kort has ordered me to take medications. It then 'backed off' from the lie, but reserves the 'right' to retell the lie if it manufactures 'evidence.'
So in other words, the premise that anyone or anything supporting Traitor Glenn Miller is either a fool or a traitor or both is proven once again.
By all means, support Traitor Glenn Miller, Phagtasm. Why you should bother to tell lies and then back off from those lies until a more opportune time to retell them lies matters little to me.
[QUOTE=Phagtasm] Marty... your ramblings are close to being incoherent. I have no objection to serious debate... even when the participants are so diametrically opposed... as you and I are on these issues. However, your sophomoric mangling of the English language shows a blatant disregard for all propriety... including a total disrespect for the forum you happen to be posting on. Furthermore, I make every attempt to verify information that I use in my posts unless the information is generally known to be true. If I do find myself playing “fast and loose” with the facts... I make every effort to “come clean.”
Phagtasm pretends to be a literary critic. Then wants to define terms of the debate. Yaps about how it claims that I disrespect the forum I happen to be posting on, which while it may be correct, due to the forum disrespecting itself enough to have a majority of secret whiggers, jews, and nut cases, is nothing that I overmuch concern myself with. Phagtasm is one of those self-serving feebs which knows that every perjorative written, even if not understandable, applies in full to itsself. And then, like most liars, promises to be able to police itself.
There is indeed a pattern here. As has been noted before, when the jew points one finger at White others, there are three cloven hooflets pointing back at jewself.
[QUOTE=Phagtasm] I'll make you a deal Marty... you make an effort to behave in a respectable manner... and I'll make every reasonable effort to respect you. Just remember... respect is a two-way street.
I heard the same offer from some whigger dog who moved into my stepdaughter's and grandchildren's home in July 2004. It wanted respect. I told it that it was lucky to escape its justly deserved ass-whupping. Respect for degenerates and idiots is something I don't do. I nearly caved in its head one fine September after it hit my granddaughter Helen for opening their bedroom door in order to use the bathroom. The feeb made the mistake of charging me, when I mentioned its worthless mother dumping him like a dog and his child-molesting father. I was about to clamp down on its throat with my left hand and cave in its teeth with my right, when another slut enjoying the free room and board, wasting my grandchildren's substance, begged me to kill it. I decided that I'd kill it on my own due time, for my own due reasons and let go of its throat. Instead I made it pack up and I dumped it off thirty miles down the raod in Seneca, Missouri.
I don't like liars and criminals. I don't respect such none. You act as you feel fit with Traitor Glenn Miller. I fail to see what your kind has to offer me that will make me give some anonymous whigger feeb any 'respect.'
[QUOTE=Phagtasm] And I suppose the court didn't take your children away from you either? :smoke:
The local kort has stolen my grandchildren from me, as one of their political enemies. I look forward to dealing with these regime criminals and their spawn in a rightful manner.
[url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/naboth21.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/naboth21.html[/url]
I'll do what I have to do.
--Martin Lindstedt
2005-02-14 18:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Martin Lindstedt]... I heard the same offer from some whigger dog who moved into my stepdaughter's and grandchildren's home in July 2004. It wanted respect. ... I was about to clamp down on its throat with my left hand and cave in its teeth with my right, when another slut enjoying the free room and board, wasting my grandchildren's substance, begged me to kill it. I decided that I'd kill it on my own due time, for my own due reasons and let go of its throat. Instead I made it pack up and I dumped it off thirty miles down the raod in Seneca, Missouri. ...[/QUOTE] Marty... posting specific details of personal incidents like this on public forums is just bad form. If you wanted to use this as an example... at least you could have summarized the event in general terms. In any case... your insinuation that violence will be used in ââ¬Ådealing withââ¬Â anyone who has wronged you is disturbing. This is one of the indicators that an individual has a psychological problem. At the very least it shows immaturity. Behavior such as this is exactly why the White Nationalist Movement is dead in the water right now.
If I may Marty... take a step back for a moment and ask yourself: Is this the impression that I wish to make in the public eye?
Until we White Nationalists begin thinking and acting in a respectable manner our enemies will continue to dominate us.
:wink:
2005-02-14 19:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Marty... posting specific details of personal incidents like this on public forums is just bad form. If you wanted to use this as an example... at least you could have summarized the event in general terms. [B]In any case... your insinuation that violence will be used in ââ¬Ådealing withââ¬Â anyone who has wronged you is disturbing. [/B] This is one of the indicators that an individual has a psychological problem. At the very least it shows immaturity. Behavior such as this is exactly why the White Nationalist Movement is dead in the water right now.
[B]If I may Marty... take a step back for a moment and ask yourself: Is this the impression that I wish to make in the public eye?[/B]
Until we White Nationalists begin thinking and acting in a respectable manner our enemies will continue to dominate us.
:wink:[/QUOTE]Well from what I've read about CI Martin is unlikely to unambiguously renounce violence, at least rhetorically. This is from what students of CI call the general attitude of CI's toward violence, which is that it is essential to their own sense of legitimacy as a movement. Martin is playing to an audience here, I think and it isn't the mainstream public eye.
At least one thing we've seen is that this attitude is by certainly not unchallenged within CI, and that Martin feels the same need for recourse to violence, at least rhetorically, against's his CI rivals who he crosses swords with as with anyone else. It might be interesting discussing this attitude (which of course makes CI the carciture of every worst Frankfurt Schooler's "psychoanalytic pathologization of right-wing authoritarianism" of nationalism and conservatism), but I think we already know by now pretty much what Martin would say.
2005-02-16 05:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Well from what I've read about CI Martin is unlikely to unambiguously renounce violence, at least rhetorically. This is from what students of CI call the general attitude of CI's toward violence, which is that it is essential to their own sense of legitimacy as a movement. Martin is playing to an audience here, I think and it isn't the mainstream public eye. ...[/QUOTE] I have yet to see one example of CI adherents promoting a responsible approach to political activism. Psychotic fantasies, criminal hero worship and ideological elitism are the attributes that characterize their approach to political activity. I am tempted to label them as hobbyists... but I believe that they are too potentially dangerous to be labeled with such a benign title.
To be honest... I really resent the name of their movement. It implies that they are faithful and honorable people. Obviously, they've redefined what those terms mean as well.
:rolleyes: