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Thread ID: 16589 | Posts: 31 | Started: 2005-02-04
2005-02-04 21:03 | User Profile
Does anyone have any further details?? Let us pray for Sam's recovery.
From [url=http://www.littlegeneva.com/] Little Geneva[/url]
[QUOTE]Sam Francis has suffered a heart attack. Please pray that God keeps this great man with us for a while longer. I wouldnââ¬â¢t trade him for all of the Rainbow Confederates that could be crammed into a Volkswagen.[/QUOTE]
2005-02-04 21:43 | User Profile
It's not really surprising considering how obese he was.
2005-02-04 21:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Does anyone have any further details?? Let us pray for Sam's recovery.
From [url=http://www.littlegeneva.com/] Little Geneva[/url][/QUOTE]No. That sounds terrible. Like they say, let's all be praying - that's all we can do or say at this point.
2005-02-04 22:14 | User Profile
This is depressing. I will keep Sam Francis and his family in my prayers. Its very unfortunate that so many guys Francis' age neglect their body and physical health...this sort of thing is often quite avoidable.
2005-02-04 22:17 | User Profile
Shame on anyone for making light of this. Are you [I]jackals[/I]?
Hope it's an untrue rumor; if true, let's hope it's something he can easily recover from.
2005-02-04 22:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Thomas777]I will keep Sam Francis and his family in my prayers. [/QUOTE]
I'm not certain but I believe Francis is a childless bachelor.
No question anyone could see this coming.
2005-02-04 22:25 | User Profile
Il Ragno,
Some people don't know how to act. Like you, I hope this isn't true.
2005-02-04 22:35 | User Profile
Let us hope it is a minor heart attack. Our prayers for a quick recovery, Dr. Francis.
2005-02-04 22:45 | User Profile
Is there any source to confirm this or offer more details other than the "Little Geneva" blogspot? In the last Citizen's Informer (the CofCC newsletter), I noticed that Francis looked as though he had lost about 100 lbs since the previous issue's photo. Whether that was due to good or poor health I don't know.
If the story is true, I hope that Francis recovers soon and returns to writing. His essays and books are the main reason that I am where I am today politically, and I imagine that many others on this and similar messageboards can say the same.
2005-02-04 23:15 | User Profile
My prayers go out for Mr. Francis, & my utter contempt for the creature doing Madalyn Murray O'Hair impersonations. Show a tad of human decency.
2005-02-05 00:24 | User Profile
So strange - i noted he was not on VDARE recently, and wondered if he was let go or something.
This would explain it. Don't you think, if true, Brimelow & gang woudl have the decency to put up a "note of encouragement" for Francis?
2005-02-05 00:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jay]So strange - i noted he was not on VDARE recently, and wondered if he was let go or something.
This would explain it. Don't you think, if true, Brimelow & gang woudl have the decency to put up a "note of encouragement" for Francis?[/QUOTE]
I don't know if it explains it or not. Heart trouble can occur gradually or suddenly, and I've never heard of Francis's health being discussed before, although it never appeared just from his published picture like people note that he lived a particularly healthy lifestyle - an overweight person with in all probability a strong "Type A" personality.
I checked Chronicles on-line, I didn't see anything there. Maybe Vdare Blog has or will have something. Generally unlike NRO paleo circles don't have much to keep track on current events. A definite problem. especially at times like this with events only of interest to paleo's. One of the reasons we've felt a need for this board, even though by our nature its difficult to get more mainstream people to link to us.
2005-02-05 02:12 | User Profile
Harry says in his comments section that he had just recently heard from common friends that Mr. Francis is recovering.
2005-02-05 02:36 | User Profile
I would think VDARE would make mention of it at their home site, but as of this afternoon, I didn't see any mention of Francis. I was under the assumption that he was on vacation.
2005-02-05 02:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Robbie]I would think VDARE would make mention of it at their home site, but as of this afternoon, I didn't see any mention of Francis. I was under the assumption that he was on vacation.[/QUOTE]
I have yet to see any mention of it and I check vdare almost every day.
This is very unfortunate (if true) as Francis publishes pieces that resonate with your average Joe conservative while addressing the issue in "radical" terms.
2005-02-05 09:23 | User Profile
Look, for all we know Francis asked Brimelow [I]not [/I] to mention any of this publicly. If he's loath to have his health troubles bandied about publicly, it wouldn't be indicative of anything but [I]normal behavior[/I].
After a few years of various grandstanders grotesquely jockeying for the Far Right spotlight, someone behaving normally - i.e., uncomfortable with the cult of celebrity - is like opening a window to let the fresh air in.
Get well soon, Sam.
2005-02-05 11:05 | User Profile
The man didn't look healthy. This image is from 2002 -
[IMG]http://indianacofcc.org/images/sam%20francis%20and%20jared%20taylor.jpg[/IMG]
Not good.
2005-02-05 13:05 | User Profile
Sam Francis is a bona fide national treasure. Let us hope this is a mere rumour, as the near-blackout on the subject tends to imply. Otherwise, let us pray for it being but a minor occurence within the context of a speedy and complete recovery.
2005-02-05 17:36 | User Profile
he looks deformed in that pic.
[QUOTE=mmartins]The man didn't look healthy. This image is from 2002 -
[IMG]http://indianacofcc.org/images/sam%20francis%20and%20jared%20taylor.jpg[/IMG]
Not good.[/QUOTE]
2005-02-05 18:24 | User Profile
I received this announcement from Fran Griffen, Joe Sobran's publisher, on Feb. 3:
[INDENT]Official announcement to forward to friends:
Columnist and author Dr. Samuel T. Francis had emergency heart surgery on Saturday.
At this point, he cannot have visitors or flowers as he is in the critical care unit of the hospital.
He has made much progress since Saturday, but he is greatly in need of your prayers. I'll let you know when he can have calls and visitors.
In the meantime, please say a few prayers for his complete and speedy recovery.
Sincerely your in Christ,
Fran Griffin[/INDENT]
I saw Sam Francis in December. I had been told beforehand that he had lost a lot of weight. But when I saw him, it didn't look like healthy weight loss. He looked pretty bad.
2005-02-05 18:38 | User Profile
Tizzard,
Thank you for this and welcome to the board.
2005-02-05 19:32 | User Profile
Oh, boy. Between the weight loss and this Fran Griffin communique, this doesn't bode well. Losing that much weight, that rapidly, taxes your heart enormously; even if he'd went for the stomach-stapling surgery. If it came off without a crash-diet - on its own volition -that's even more alarming.
Hang in there, Sam. Even if he hopefully recovers completely, it's going to be some time before we read another Francis column - but first things first.
2005-02-06 22:54 | User Profile
Sam Francis did not have a heart attack. He had an anorism in his heart. He cancelled a dinner with several friends of mine in the D.C. area and called 911 shortly after that. Due to a storm it took an hour for pharamedics to get him to the hospital. He had to be medivaced and he is in critical condition.
Sam Francis recentlt quit smoking and lost a massive amount of weight. However, that probably contributed to his current health problem.
Sam recently received a two year grant to write a book.
2005-02-06 22:56 | User Profile
Sam has scaled back his columns already due to the fact that he's been given a two year grant to write a book.
[QUOTE=jay]So strange - i noted he was not on VDARE recently, and wondered if he was let go or something.
This would explain it. Don't you think, if true, Brimelow & gang woudl have the decency to put up a "note of encouragement" for Francis?[/QUOTE]
2005-02-06 22:58 | User Profile
Sam is currently about half the size he was in 2002 due to deiting.
2005-02-06 23:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=heritagelost]Sam Francis did not have a heart attack. He had an anorism in his heart. He cancelled a dinner with several friends of mine in the D.C. area and called 911 shortly after that. Due to a storm it took an hour for pharamedics to get him to the hospital. He had to be medivaced and he is in critical condition. Many thanks HL. Wow - that still sounds extremely serious.
Keep us posted.
2005-02-07 00:43 | User Profile
And thanks for that info about Sam Francis writing a book too. I hope he gets better soon.
2005-02-07 15:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Sam Francis recentlt quit smoking and lost a massive amount of weight. However, that probably contributed to his current health problem.[/QUOTE]
Major weight-loss will tax your heart, but the stress of quitting smoking on top of that makes it even more perilous.
I worked with a guy who died of AIDS, who'd been dying of it his last two years on the job, who smoked like a chimney. His doctor had advised him - given the stress his health was [I]already [/I] under - he'd be better off continuing to smoke.
2005-02-10 00:19 | User Profile
Those close to Sam Francis have decided that he has to many enemies to broadcast where he is. [since left wingers are known for violence]
So letters can be sent to Sam at this P.O. Box and will be delivered to Sam Francis in person.
Samuel Francis c/o D.C. Area CofCC P.O. 2221 Ashburn, VA 20146-2221
Updates on Sam's condition will be posted on the CofCC website, [url]http://www.cofcc.org[/url] as they become available.
2005-02-10 00:40 | User Profile
Thanks for the update.
2005-02-16 21:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=heritagelost]Sam Francis did not have a heart attack. He had an anorism in his heart. He cancelled a dinner with several friends of mine in the D.C. area and called 911 shortly after that. Due to a storm it took an hour for pharamedics to get him to the hospital. He had to be medivaced and he is in critical condition. [/QUOTE]Sam Francis is little known, or at least recognized, outside of paleo circles, so I doubt we'll hear much on him, or ever get a post mortum.
It certainly sounds to me like though that this delay in getting him to a hospital could have been very bad, and probably contributed to the sad outcome. Prompt treatment is so critical in most cases like this.