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MartinLindstedt [OP]

2005-02-01 07:38 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sapphira_the_$tormfront Censor][left][font=Arial][size=2][size=4]The Joys of Tribulation[/size]

by Pastor Mark Downey [url="http://www.kinsmanredeemer.com/JoysOfTribulation.htm"]Kinsman Redeemer Ministries[/url]

Tribulation defined as having anything to do with the Downeys. The 'joys' of Tribulation having dried up since The Kludd/KlhumperofKlunt run off with the Klan's Klailiff/Klunt several years ago.

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[font=Arial][size=2]"I no sooner commenced to sitting down with a yellow legal note pad to write down this message, when a bird in the backyard began squawking. I wondered, "What's his problem." It sounded like some kind of warning, rather than the happy chirping of an early bird catching a worm. Perhaps another animal was encroaching upon his meal. [/size][/font]

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[font=Arial][size=2]I love how the Holy Spirit works. Before I began to write anything about tribulation, the sounds of God's creation gave me a sermon example from the get-go. Through this otherwise mundane morning activity of nature, it came to my mind of a situation we had last year in our driveway. [/size][/font]

[left][font=Arial][size=2]Oh puh-leese. Downey, the self-anointed Crisco/Jurgens pasturd, was sitting in his studio -- and Downey is a better graphics artist than baal-priest -- with literally nothing in its head, when it seen a killdeer and decided that it was a vision from Downey's god and daddy (Satan). [/size][/font][/left]

[left][font=Arial][size=2]But at least it starts out better than 'Leaderless Identity' -- a formula for crowning Downey as kink of the poser OSLers. [/size][/font][/left] [left][font=Arial][size=2][/left]

[/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2][QUOTE=Sapphira_the_$tormfront Censor] [left][/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2]Christian Identity has been accused of being obsessed with jews and having a mental fixation on racial matters. Although these are the predominately pressing issues of the day, our people, White Christian Israelites, have their own personal trials and tribulations which cause untold stress, worry and grief. These negative emotions can take their toll on any person's peace of mind. Animal behavior can sometimes teach us how to deal with life when we fail to learn the same thing in the Bible. [/size][/font][/left]

[left][font=Arial][size=2]First, as always, Downey disses the Dual-Seedliners. Then Downey wants to emulate the animals. By all means, Downey. I'm sure that there are a lot of 'beasts of the field' in downtown Seattle whose behavior would make Downey and Sapphira feel right at home. [/size][/font][/left]

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[/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2]Life ain't fair. Life isn't a bed of roses. But, in spite of the unfairness and the void of utopian living, the Christian is offered a panacea whereby we can "count it all joy." We can have a perspective whereby even the worst of the worst has a silver lining. Many a tortured POW rested upon the memories of Scripture, which comfort the soul. "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me: thy rod and thy staff they comfort me" (Ps. 23:4). [/size][/font]

[font=Arial]Life isn't always being spread out on the back of a Harley with six lusty Klansmen waiting like horny navvies their turn; those daze are gone, forever, Sapphira. Was it really such torture back then? [/font][size=2]

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[/size][font=Arial][size=2]Let's not get too ahead of ourselves in anticipation of the sky falling. Tribulation is not something coming in the future, when things really start to get bad, as the foreboding Rapturist would have you believe. We need to leave behind that kind of thinking if we are to believe that the future will take care of itself and that God will take care of us right now. Folks, tribulation has been going on for the last 2000 years. That's why, "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for My sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad" (Mt. 5:11-12). [left][/left]

[/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2]Have you ever heard the adage, 'if you're looking for trouble, you'll probably find it'? Does the Bible tell us to seek trouble? No. It says we're sent forth as sheep in the midst of wolves and so we better be wise as serpents (Mt. 10:16) and agree with thine adversary (Mt. 5:25). This does not mean we become the same as those who persecute us, but to appease those who would have us appear as they do. [/size][/font]

[font=Arial][size=2]Something you should have figured out before you banned Pastor Morris Gulett and a few other Dual-Seedliners from the Christian Identity section of $tormfront, Sapphira. I'd say that you will get plenty of trouble from that quarter quick enough.

[QUOTE=Sapphira_the_$tormfront Censor] [/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2]We are commanded to "Abstain from all appearance of evil" (I Thes. 5:22). That's not an easy thing to do in a society that calls good evil and evil good when you're carrying the Christian Identity message to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. The common idiom would be, 'suck it up'. God knows those that don't as "murmurers and complainers" (Jude 16) who continually find fault with everything except themselves. Such is the "latter time" or end of this age where mockers and scoffers of the utmost arrogance cause division and are devoid of the Spirit. The part about 'sucking it up' -- and swallowing -- but not the 'abstaining from all appearance of evil' applies to the Downeys. I'm sure that the part about 'mockers and scoffers of the utmost arrogance cause[ing] division' is a jab about me. But that's "Mr. Lindstedt" to you, Sapphira. [/size][/font]

[font=Arial][size=2][QUOTE=Sapphira_the_$tormfront Censor] [/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2]The Bible says, "That we must, through much tribulation enter into the Kingdom of God" (Acts 14:22). [/size][/font]

[font=Arial][size=2]In the fields and in the woods, [/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=2]We seek Strength Through Joy.[/size][/font] [font=Arial][size=2]-- Nazi satirical song celebrating co-ed field brigade work.[/size][/font]

[font=Arial][size=2]Likewise, there was joy through tribulation, but that was years ago.

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[/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2]I'd like to speak about idiots for a moment. Lord knows we have more than our fair share of them. An idiot is someone who forsakes the power of God. An idiot is destitute of reason and common sense. An idiot does not have the intellectual capacity to renew his mind. An idiot does not "consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" (I Tim. 6:3). Every day we come into contact with idiots who try to push our buttons or try to engage us in their level of adversarial behavior. They are, "Proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmising, perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself" (I Tim. 6:4-5). [left][/left]

[/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2]The Bible doesn't put it this bluntly, but we have been given the gift of how to deal with idiots that cause so much tribulation. And we can have fun at the same time rather than wringing our hands in anguish. Are you ready for some good clean Christian fun (enjoyment, joy)? [/size][/font]

[left][font=Arial][size=2]Idiots, presumably, are those who see right through the Downeys. And although those seeking 'joy' in the tribulation of having anything to do with the Downeys might not find an unwanted pregnancy, there is more than likely a social disease or two for those having congress with the Downeys. [/left]

[/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2][QUOTE=Sapphira_the_$tormfront Censor] [/size][/font] [left][font=Arial][size=2]Our text message for today is Romans 5:1-11. Some people cannot figure out why tribulation produces patience and what that brings to the believer. Let's read these verses and find out. Starting in verse 1 we find, "Being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." Justification means we are no longer accused and condemned in our sins; it imputes to us the righteousness of Christ and we are given a new start in life. The reason for Paul's exhortations is because many who commit to Christ, after so many years in sin and rebellion to God, feel they can't be forgiven. They can. [/size][/font][/left] [left][font=Arial][size=2][/left]

[left]Jesus might forgive. The Dual-Seedline brethren, like the State of Mississippi in 'O, Brother, Where Art Thou' are a tad more hardnosed about prior peccidillos. [/left]

[/size][/font]I deleted much of Downey's sermon. What was good wasn't original and what was original was not good.

[left]I first came into contact with this Bashanic heifer in 2002 when she tried to get a Dual-Seedline pastor banned from a yahoo group. I asked for, and got some dirt on this Salome. Today, I got word that she banned Pastor Morris Gulett from $tormfront. [/left]

[left]She has not changed her tricks of hating Dual-Seedliners, her and Downey, any more than the leopard changes its spots or the Ethiopian its dark hide.....

Us Dual-Seedliners are really really pissed. [/left]

[left]Damn that bitch. [/left]

I'm as mad as hell and what I said needs to be said, so I don't care if this gets me banned from ODES or not.

[left]--Martin Lindstedt[/left] [left][url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/left]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-01 09:06 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sapphira Downey][left][font=Arial][size=2][size=4]The Joys of Tribulation[/size]

by Pastor Mark Downey [url="http://www.kinsmanredeemer.com/JoysOfTribulation.htm"]Kinsman Redeemer Ministries [/url][/size][/font]

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[left][/QUOTE] [/left] If you have any sense, you'll stop dissing Dual-Seedline on Stormfront. You simply cannot afford to bring up the subject, then let you fake OSLers and Preterists get in your slams, and then when the few Dual-Seedliners chime in proceed to ban them or censor their threads.

However, I'm glad that you are so stupid. Pretty soon $tormfront will be the only ghetto where you and your little wuss husband Downey can stay.

Oh, and yes, keep on yapping your crap about Pete Peters as well. I'm no fan of Peters, but at least Peters minds his own large flock of genuine One-Seedliners and doesn't cause trouble for Dual-Seedliners as long as we leave him alone. Only an idiot run by Satan would be fool enough to take on both the Dual-Seedliners and One-Seedliners, but thankfully you are just fool enough. If you didn't wind up pore Downey like a little windup toy, Downey would be having fun being a pretty good commercial artist and not tinkering with Identity as your little ticket to being a religious leader, Sapphira.

I've heard that you banned a number of Dual-Seedliners, including Pastor Gulett, from $tormfront today. Keep it up. Maybe we'll put on enough pressure to where $tormfront won't have any choice but to ban you and the rest of the pretend OSLer baal-priests on their forum someday.

Just thought you might want to know about the opposite, but disportionate reaction you've caused, Sapphira.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


Texas Dissident

2005-02-01 17:39 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]First, as always, Downey disses the Dual-Seedliners. Then Downey wants to emulate the animals. By all means, Downey. I'm sure that there are a lot of 'beasts of the field' in downtown Seattle whose behavior would make Downey and Sapphira feel right at home.

Life isn't always being spread out on the back of a Harley with six lusty Klansmen waiting like horny navvies their turn; those daze are gone, forever, Sapphira. Was it really such torture back then?

The part about 'sucking it up' -- and swallowing -- but not the 'abstaining from all appearance of evil' applies to the Downeys. I'm sure that the part about 'mockers and scoffers of the utmost arrogance cause[ing] division' is a jab about me. But that's "Mr. Lindstedt" to you, Sapphira.

But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

Idiots, presumably, are those who see right through the Downeys. And although those seeking 'joy' in the tribulation of having anything to do with the Downeys might not find an unwanted pregnancy, there is more than likely a social disease or two for those having congress with the Downeys.

She has not changed her tricks of hating Dual-Seedliners, her and Downey, any more than the leopard changes its spots or the Ethiopian its dark hide. The only thing that has changed over the years is that her butt has gotten fatter, her tits have sagged, and all of it got wrinkled and so she is not able to lead stupid White men directly by their peckers no more. She hates White men, but of all White men she hates Dual-Seedline Christian Identity White men the most.

Yet like her daddy, Satan, she coils up like a snake and wants to poison the wells of discourse with her forked tongue. Well, this streetwalking baal-priestess needs to hit the road and stick with the $tormfront leper colony where she belongs.

Censorship, under color of 'love', is not godly. Pretty soon $tormfront will be the only place Klunt can show off her ass. And Downey was never nothing ever more than a pussy-whupped feeb with his little head sticking out of Klunt, bobbing like an African meercat. Word's got around. Your little didoes have caught up with you, Sapphira Downey. Us Dual-Seedliners are really really pissed.

Damn that bitch.

If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

James 1:26


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-01 22:44 | User Profile

[QUOTE=kludd]Thank you Texas Dissident. God's Word always speaks louder than the vain imaginations of man.

Pastor Mark Downey[/QUOTE]Pieties from the self-anointed Crisco/Jurgens pastor.

Why is it that every single time some Dual-Seedliner gets into a position to where he is under Klunt's thumb, that that Dual-Seedliner gets banned? Doesn't matter whether it is on a jewhoogruppen like Holy_War in April 2002 or $tormfront in January 2005. Each and every single time the censorship or banning takes place, and then Klunt trots out her meercat appendage, her pet pasturd, her 'man' to pour out some poison platitudes to jewstify the poisonous fruit from an evil tree.

Doesn't any of the jew-day-os have any ability to know when evil deeds are committed or the balls to simply say that evil has been done? What a stupid question: There is only an ooozing of sanctimony like the odor of decay eminating from the baal-priesteries and whitened sepulchres of estrogen-drip churchianity.

Normal One-Seedliners never make it a point to harass Dual-Seedliners. I don't see Pete Peters going out of his way to fight with Dual-Seedliners. I don't see Dual-Seedliners ever making more than a crack or two once in a while against Pete Peters. But yet, Sapphira/Klunt and her merry menagerie of mamzers and baal-priests on $tormfront lie like the dogs they are that they 'used to be DSL, but DSL is of the jews, but they don't hate jews because jews are not Satan's spawn.' Never in the history of anyone has anyone gone back to normal churchianity or even OSL from DSL. Either, like Tom Metzger, once one of Pastor Butler's ordained ministers, they become a-theist, or like David Lane, another of Butler's former ministers, they try to re-establish Wodenism.

So Downey, a feeb dominated entirely by Klunt, is simply a tool used for his silliness and weakness to provide cover and concealment for the wicked. Go back to your studio, Downey, and pester Identity no more! Go back to making an honest living as a commercial graphics artist and if you can't make Klunt behave, then ditch the bitch or hand her off to the fourth-or fifth- or sixth-in-line in your old Klan. Klunt's like Hillary but you don't have one-666th of the intelligence or character of Bill Clinton.

There are a lot of people who are wise to you and wise to $tormfront. You won't be able to stop criticism of your activities as another Anninanus & Sapphira within the close-knit Identity portion of the Movement. Get over it. I'm still laughing at the way I stampeded you last year to do a google search for fear of what I had written about you last year. Live by the Internut, die by the Internut.

Time to hunker back down in Klunt's pouch, like a good little sixth-growed possum (or meercat), Downey.

--Martin Lindstedt Malleus baal-priests [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


Okiereddust

2005-02-01 23:24 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]Pieties from the self-anointed Crisco/Jurgens pastor.

Why is it that every single time some Dual-Seedliner gets into a position to where he is under Klunt's thumb, that that Dual-Seedliner gets banned? Doesn't matter whether it is on a jewhoogruppen like Holy_War in April 2002 or $tormfront in January 2005. Each and every single time the censorship or banning takes place, and then Klunt trots out her meercat appendage, her pet pasturd, her 'man' to pour out some poison platitudes to jewstify the poisonous fruit from an evil tree. [/QUOTE]Martin, you're unique. (At least unusual, and hopefully unique :lol:)I don't think you have to bring the other DSLers into this. Shute, you're posting style would get you thrown out of the Catholic Church if you were the Pope himself.


6KILLER

2005-02-02 01:45 | User Profile

I was one of the Dual Seedliners, that Martin has mentioned, that was banned fron StormFront by Klaliff, for the petty act of including the URL to Martin's website in my signature. I don't believe that Kludd is fully aware of all that transpired there. I will say that they show a definite preference for the Preterists and OSL'ers at Stormfront. Klaliff and Kludd both preach brotherly love, but their hate for Dual Seedline Christian Identity is thinly veiled. And with klaliff in particular, beware that behind the veil is a sharp dagger.:thumbsup:[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt][/left] If you have any sense, you'll stop dissing Dual-Seedline on Stormfront. You simply cannot afford to bring up the subject, then let you fake OSLers and Preterists get in your slams, and then when the few Dual-Seedliners chime in proceed to ban them or censor their threads.

However, I'm glad that you are so stupid. Pretty soon $tormfront will be the only ghetto where you and your little wuss husband Downey can stay.

Oh, and yes, keep on yapping your crap about Pete Peters as well. I'm no fan of Peters, but at least Peters minds his own large flock of genuine One-Seedliners and doesn't cause trouble for Dual-Seedliners as long as we leave him alone. Only an idiot run by Satan would be fool enough to take on both the Dual-Seedliners and One-Seedliners, but thankfully you are just fool enough. If you didn't wind up pore Downey like a little windup toy, Downey would be having fun being a pretty good commercial artist and not tinkering with Identity as your little ticket to being a religious leader, Sapphira.

I've heard that you banned a number of Dual-Seedliners, including Pastor Gulett, from $tormfront today. Keep it up. Maybe we'll put on enough pressure to where $tormfront won't have any choice but to ban you and the rest of the pretend OSLer baal-priests on their forum someday.

Just thought you might want to know about the opposite, but disportionate reaction you've caused, Sapphira.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-02 21:00 | User Profile

I might also add that klunt's anger started, when she was moderating a post, I made in reply to FBI agent Folk & Fake on Der SturmFront Forum. I made the comment that Aryan women older than 25 years of age and without children were a menace to society. This infuriated the klunt, and she had to draw Pastor Gulett into the Melee. It didn't dawn on me at the time, but klunt took that as an assault on her personally, as she is barren and may never be a true Aryan woman i.e. a White woman with White offspring.

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]Pieties from the self-anointed Crisco/Jurgens pastor.

Why is it that every single time some Dual-Seedliner gets into a position to where he is under Klunt's thumb, that that Dual-Seedliner gets banned? Doesn't matter whether it is on a jewhoogruppen like Holy_War in April 2002 or $tormfront in January 2005. Each and every single time the censorship or banning takes place, and then Klunt trots out her meercat appendage, her pet pasturd, her 'man' to pour out some poison platitudes to jewstify the poisonous fruit from an evil tree.

Doesn't any of the jew-day-os have any ability to know when evil deeds are committed or the balls to simply say that evil has been done? What a stupid question: There is only an ooozing of sanctimony like the odor of decay eminating from the baal-priesteries and whitened sepulchres of estrogen-drip churchianity.

Normal One-Seedliners never make it a point to harass Dual-Seedliners. I don't see Pete Peters going out of his way to fight with Dual-Seedliners. I don't see Dual-Seedliners ever making more than a crack or two once in a while against Pete Peters. But yet, Sapphira/Klunt and her merry menagerie of mamzers and baal-priests on $tormfront lie like the dogs they are that they 'used to be DSL, but DSL is of the jews, but they don't hate jews because jews are not Satan's spawn.' Never in the history of anyone has anyone gone back to normal churchianity or even OSL from DSL. Either, like Tom Metzger, once one of Pastor Butler's ordained ministers, they become a-theist, or like David Lane, another of Butler's former ministers, they try to re-establish Wodenism.

So Downey, a feeb dominated entirely by Klunt, is simply a tool used for his silliness and weakness to provide cover and concealment for the wicked. Go back to your studio, Downey, and pester Identity no more! Go back to making an honest living as a commercial graphics artist and if you can't make Klunt behave, then ditch the bitch or hand her off to the fourth-or fifth- or sixth-in-line in your old Klan. Klunt's like Hillary but you don't have one-666th of the intelligence or character of Bill Clinton.

There are a lot of people who are wise to you and wise to $tormfront. You won't be able to stop criticism of your activities as another Anninanus & Sapphira within the close-knit Identity portion of the Movement. Get over it. I'm still laughing at the way I stampeded you last year to do a google search for fear of what I had written about you last year. Live by the Internut, die by the Internut.

Time to hunker back down in Klunt's pouch, like a good little sixth-growed possum (or meercat), Downey.

--Martin Lindstedt Malleus baal-priests [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-02 21:21 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]I was one of the Dual Seedliners, that Martin has mentioned, that was banned fron StormFront by Klaliff, for the petty act of including the URL to Martin's website in my signature. I don't believe that Kludd is fully aware of all that transpired there. I will say that they show a definite preference for the Preterists and OSL'ers at Stormfront. Klaliff and Kludd both preach brotherly love, but their hate for Dual Seedline Christian Identity is thinly veiled. And with klaliff in particular, beware that behind the veil is a sharp dagger.:thumbsup:[/QUOTE]Klunt/Sapphira has always been the one to keep an eye on. Downey is merely an evasive feeb. What gets me is that the women who told my sources about what went on after the Klan meetings have a far better opinion of Sapphira than they did of Downey even though Sapphira did their husbands. And, from what they implied, Sapphira was no unwilling participant made to do so by her husband at the time, The Grand Dragon, but rather enjoyed what she was supposedly 'made' to do. Most of them have a good thing to say about the Grand Dragon, then Sapphira, and Downey last. I think it has something to do with force of character, even bad character.

So I heard that Pastor Gulett was one of those purged. Of course $tormfront is really nothing more than a ghetto inhabited by the fake-seedliners, i.e., neither One-Seedliners nor Dual-Seedliners. The One-Seedliners, who group themselves according to who their pastor is, gets to listen to lies about Pete Peters. What us Dual-Seedliners have to listen to is getting told that we believe as the jews do, that our doxology is derived from the talmud, and if we get involved too much in rising to the traps they set to detect DSLers that we will get banned.

Of course it was foolish to put a link to my web page. In the summer of 2003 I got Downey all flustered when I said that I'd mount a google attack so that whenever 'Pastor Mark Downey' was placed into google search, it would come up on my page. Downey then showed me how much he feared being 'outed' by spewing back to me that the search only revealed his web site. I said, "Sure it did, Downey, you feeb, but your being able to hunt fresh meat is in my hands and you had better not forget it."

I'd advise logging on as a new name and simply lurking. That is what I do on $tormfront. I don't post because my writing style is likely to give me away. And when I did post as 'MartinLindstedt,' I was banned quick enough by Klunt.

So if you wish to help Gulett, simply talk something innocuous, and put up a link to Gulett's Church of the Sons of YHWH site as an ad. Gotta admit that $tormfront really hooks in the browsers. It's content is pedestrian. Several years ago Don Black wasn't getting enough ZOG-bux from web hosting. Today Don Black has 40,000 members of $F, and a tenth of them are 'sustaining members' -- giving $5 or more a month. No wonder that there is nothing new on the $F web page -- the cash cow is their Forum. Thus the new format. The $F cash-cow forum comes first, and the 'oldest white site on the Internet' has its archives from 1995-2003 represented by a total of five links at the top of the page. Forum cash-cow business is priority #1.

So what with David Duke and revisionism and trained seals, $tormfront is actually a Paytriot profit center, taking money from the feebs, and pretty much sucking up what little money and loose change remains in the Movement. Some of their little moderators, like Klunt and Downey, don't have to be good -- they got there first, and thus are deemed a 'safe' version of Christian Identity, baal-priests likely to vacuum up the sheckels and apply a whip the the devout, in an inverse action of what Christ did with the moneychangers in the temple. $tormfront is actually nothing more than a temple of mammon for the-m-asses of the racially aware. It's a supermarket for Movement sludge to foist off upon new feebs.

So, thanks to phorafags/feebs being shut down due probably to FakeTheFlake's mental instability, Original Dissent is trying to gain and keep market share during the downtime. To be sure, OD still wants to remain an Embalming Society of paleocon notions, and they've channeled my discussion onto this thread, but OD is actually receptive to new ideas. This is to its credit, because most people would rather die or give up than think new thoughts.

I'd advise logging on with a new name, saying something innocuous on $F, using its might as a giant Wal-mart of Paytriotism to get your message, and leave its baal-priest CI section as is as a ghetto. You see, whenever Klunt and Downey try to make new tendrils outside their ghetto, they find that they need protection, like jews pioneering amongst the goyim peasantry. They own their ghetto at $tormfront; any genuine DSL ideas will have to fly under the radar there. Fly the DSL black flag there and no wonder you got banned.

Say hello to Pastor Gulett for me. Ask him to consider making his move to work with the Butler faction remnants and revive the Aryan Nations, keeping his church and Legion of the Saints as his feifdom.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


6KILLER

2005-02-03 02:50 | User Profile

Martin, the intentions of 'The Church Of The Sons Of YHVH' and 'The Legion Of Saints' is to take over where 'The Church Of Jesus Christ Christian' and 'Aryan Nations' left off. AN has too much legal baggage, to continue as a viable organization. AN like the SA, has served it's purpose and run it's course. Any AN member past or present (if there are any) who wishes to join 'The Church Of The Sons Of YHVH' and 'The Legion of Saints' is invited to apply. The proper forms can be found at the links in my signature. We are actively seeking members in all states. Pastor Gulett is the only Pastor, that has the ordained line of authority to take over the mantle for both 'The Church Of Jesus Christ Christian' and 'Aryan Nations'. Martin may I on the behalf of Myself and 'The Legion Of Saints', extend an invitation to join, 'The Church Of The Sons Of YHVH' and 'The Legion Of Saints'? I ask also, that you clarify who the Butler faction remnants are, that you ask us to work with?:thumbsup: [QUOTE=MartinLindstedt] Say hello to Pastor Gulett for me. Ask him to consider making his move to work with the Butler faction remnants and revive the Aryan Nations, keeping his church and Legion of the Saints as his feifdom.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-03 06:39 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]Martin, the intentions of 'The Church Of The Sons Of YHVH' and 'The Legion Of Saints' is to take over where 'The Church Of Jesus Christ Christian' and 'Aryan Nations' left off. AN has too much legal baggage, to continue as a viable organization. AN like the SA, has served it's purpose and run it's course. Any AN member past or present (if there are any) who wishes to join 'The Church Of The Sons Of YHVH' and 'The Legion of Saints' is invited to apply. The proper forms can be found at the links in my signature. We are actively seeking members in all states. Pastor Gulett is the only Pastor, that has the ordained line of authority to take over the mantle for both 'The Church Of Jesus Christ Christian' and 'Aryan Nations'. Martin may I on the behalf of Myself and 'The Legion Of Saints', extend an invitation to join, 'The Church Of The Sons Of YHVH' and 'The Legion Of Saints'? I ask also, that you clarify who the Butler faction remnants are, that you ask us to work with?:thumbsup:[/QUOTE]I see that Butler's remnants, after Butler died, said that they wouldn't support any faction. Now what I see is them pretty much going with almost everyone, including Pete Peters -- there is a link to his Scriptures for America show -- but not including Wickstrom and Juba's faction. That Aryan Nations is defunct seems to be news to them:

[url="http://www.aryannations.org/"]http://www.aryannations.org/[/url]

I do think that the 'Aryan Nations' name still has a good deal of power behind it. I also think what should be done is to come to an arrangement with Butler's remnants to keep it under their name as opposed to its going by default to Wickstrom/Juba's faction. I have no personal animus against Wickstrom and Juba, except that they have pretty much stumbled do to their own actions. I do understand that Pastor Gulett wants to make a clean break of it with his own supporters rather than work with what is past and what is unreliable. I also understand that there still are resources to be used among those of Pastor Butler's loyalists now that Pastor Butler no longer needs their loyalty, and I think that Pastor Gulett could make good use of them.

So, since you've asked me, and looking at the pages of both Butler's and Juba and Pastor Gulett, I've made a decision to accept working with Pastor Gulett since that doesn't imply fighting or arguing with the other factions, who might or might not do anything. There is such a great harvest but so few harvesters. It wouldn't be right for me to ask Pastor Gulett to stick his neck out, and then for me to refuse your invitation. This doesn't mean that I agree with you or Pastor Gulett 100%, but it does mean that I'm willing to be of service for this area of Missouri.

I really don't have very much money to pay for a membership. Nor do I have any followers since I've taken care to leave that which should be underground concealed as I cannot speak of that which I do not need to know. I'm pretty much involved in my own political activity here in my corner of SW Missouri. However, I am pretty good at political work, since I've been doing it for over a decade. So if you wish for me to be a contact for Missouri, I accept. I'll be your contact until such time as you find someone better for your purposes.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


Gabrielle

2005-02-03 22:53 | User Profile

Texas Dissident, would you allow some guy to come here and speak about your loved ones like Martin is doing in this thread? This slander and filth has NOTHING to do with free speech. With freedom comes responsibility!
This unchristian badgering and persecution of a woman is doing nothing for Christianity, or your board’s good name. Do you think God would approve of this? I am asking you not only to please close this thread, but to please remove this ungodly filth. Please consider my words. Thank you.


wild_bill

2005-02-04 01:20 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Texas Dissident, would you allow some guy to come here and speak about your loved ones like Martin is doing in this thread? This slander and filth has NOTHING to do with free speech. With freedom comes responsibility!
This unchristian badgering and persecution of a woman is doing nothing for Christianity, or your board’s good name. Do you think God would approve of this? I am asking you not only to please close this thread, but to please remove this ungodly filth. Please consider my words. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

I agree. And its not like I see eye-to-eye with the Downeys. We definitely have our disagreements.

In all the years I have been on the net and encountered Mr. Lindstadt, he seems to ALWAYS be involved in some kind of campaign of slander against someone or some group - usually making liberal use of vulgarity and sexual inuendos. Why does this board have to be contaminated with this kind of garbage? I haven't seen anyone posting stuff like this before.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 01:26 | User Profile

How Democratic or is it Judaic of you to point out which speech is free speech. And pardon us, Deb is such a saint, how dare we say anything. I take it that you're the same Gabrielle that always wanted to debate Dual Seedline Chriatian Identity in other forums. Might as well ban us you wouldn't be getting virgins, Martin and I have been banned by every forum, since the AN forum, because of some OSL'er, that wanted to debate Dual Seedline Christian Identity. Baal Priestess Deb has banned almost everyone of us DSL'ers from Stormfront, me from the petty act of putting Martin's URL in my signature.:caiphas:[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Texas Dissident, would you allow some guy to come here and speak about your loved ones like Martin is doing in this thread? This slander and filth has NOTHING to do with free speech. With freedom comes responsibility! This unchristian badgering and persecution of a woman is doing nothing for Christianity, or your board’s good name. Do you think God would approve of this? I am asking you not only to please close this thread, but to please remove this ungodly filth. Please consider my words. Thank you.[/QUOTE]


wild_bill

2005-02-04 01:48 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER] Baal Priestess Deb has banned almost everyone of us DSL'ers from Stormfront, me from the petty act of putting Martin's URL in my signature.:caiphas:[/QUOTE]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway. If you seedliners are getting kicked off message boards so often, why don't you start your own message board and then your problem will be solved?


Okiereddust

2005-02-04 02:02 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Texas Dissident, would you allow some guy to come here and speak about your loved ones like Martin is doing in this thread? This slander and filth has NOTHING to do with free speech. With freedom comes responsibility!
This unchristian badgering and persecution of a woman is doing nothing for Christianity, or your board’s good name. Do you think God would approve of this? I am asking you not only to please close this thread, but to please remove this ungodly filth. Please consider my words. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Well first of all, Martin clearly has a personal problem with the Downey's and probably a lot of other people for that matter, which he can't avoid referring to. It certainly is unique to this board, but it inasmuch as it is to some extent a matter of some knowledge, involving 3 people, all of whom have waived their right to anonymity and wish to stand as public representatives for their respective branches of CI's its evaluation criteria aren't entirely standards are too some extent also public record the Downey's can't be compared entirely to what a similar situation with us. For a pastor and any other representative of God's word for that matter, one's personal integrity is part of the message, and that's why I've hesitate to ban discussion of this and associated parties permantently from here.

Perhaps I thought Martin might like to use this time we've given him to tell his own story, and try to give a little better account of himself, even if I have to stop reading his posts and split them off into one Martin only thread out of irritation, and a slight aid/substitute for the "ignore" button to tose who don't habitually use it. Perhaps maybe he might have something to say, and give a better account of himself other than a person who is obviously way over the edge and who has gone on a personal slander mission in gratuitus revenge for being banned once from a board, a banning it appears any reasonable person would agree with.

Forcing me to read through his posts is quite a punishment for this perhaps unwise decision. Personally I've heard enough, as you have, and feel the need to clean this board up as you say.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 02:03 | User Profile

We had our own message board at AN. I attribute being kicked off, the boards to Christian acts of revenge, by good Christian women such as Deb. Personally I think much of this stems from some of the OSL'ers being banned at AN. The OSL'ers always wanted to debate DSL. The fact is the OSL'ers, such as the Downeys preach brotherly love and then allow folks such as Ibere, 76 MWD, Folk & Faith, Pycca, HOB, Irish Jay you name it to call us such genteel PC names as heretic. etc. We do have a couple message boards both of which for some reason, wont always allow us to post. And when they do are difficult to use.[QUOTE=wild_bill]Maybe this is a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway. If you seedliners are getting kicked off message boards so often, why don't you start your own message board and then your problem will be solved?[/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-04 02:23 | User Profile

Martin isn't the only one of us who has a problem with the Downey's. Many DSL'ers have a problem with the Downey's, Deb in particular. I'm of the opinion if it weren't for Deb, that Mark would leave us alone and go back to being an artiste. I must admit that Martin doesn't always help his position by alienating others through his choice of speech. However I'm not one to cast stones, as I can sympathize with his need to vent his anger. When I came to this board I made a post where, I didn't use the best language. However I never used foul or vulgar language on Stormfront and was still banned due to Deb's good Christian virtues. She banned me without warning, or the courtousy of giving an explanation as to why. I will add this Martin stands by his convictions and shows more testicular fortitude than most.:eek:[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Well first of all, Martin clearly has a personal problem with the Downey's and probably a lot of other people for that matter, which he can't avoid referring to. It certainly is unique to this board, but it inasmuch as it is to some extent a matter of some knowledge, involving 3 people, all of whom have waived their right to anonymity and wish to stand as public representatives for their respective branches of CI's its evaluation criteria aren't entirely standards are too some extent also public record the Downey's can't be compared entirely to what a similar situation with us. For a pastor and any other representative of God's word for that matter, one's personal integrity is part of the message, and that's why I've hesitate to ban discussion of this and associated parties permantently from here.

Perhaps I thought Martin might like to use this time we've given him to tell his own story, and try to give a little better account of himself, even if I have to stop reading his posts and split them off into one Martin only thread out of irritation, and a slight aid/substitute for the "ignore" button to those who . Perhaps maybe he might have something to say, and give a better account of himself other than a person who is obviously way over the edge and who has gone on a personal slander mission in gratuitus revenge for being banned once from a board, a banning it appears any reasonable person would agree with.

Forcing me to read through his posts is quite a punishment for this perhaps unwise decision. Personally I've heard enough, as you have, and feel the need to clean this board up as you say.[/QUOTE]


Okiereddust

2005-02-04 02:24 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]We had our own message board at AN.

What's AN?

The fact is the OSL'ers, such as the Downeys preach brotherly love and then allow folks such as Ibere, 76 MWD, Folk & Faith, Pycca, HOB, Irish Jay you name it to call us such genteel PC names as heretic. etc. We do have a couple message boards both of which for some reason, wont always allow us to post. And when they do are difficult to use.[/QUOTE]Heretic! :lol: I'll leave your posts here - its self evidentwhy you guys can't stick around at any message board, at least those who have evolved far enough from the stone age to know how to run such hi-tech gadgets, as puters and tangs.


wild_bill

2005-02-04 02:26 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]We had our own message board at AN. I attribute being kicked off, the boards to Christian acts of revenge, by good Christian women such as Deb. Personally I think much of this stems from some of the OSL'ers being banned at AN. The OSL'ers always wanted to debate DSL. The fact is the OSL'ers, such as the Downeys preach brotherly love and then allow folks such as Ibere, 76 MWD, Folk & Faith, Pycca, HOB, Irish Jay you name it to call us such genteel PC names as heretic. etc. We do have a couple message boards both of which for some reason, wont always allow us to post. And when they do are difficult to use.[/QUOTE]

Why doesn't Martin Lindstedt start his own board? He obviously has a lot to say about many people and issues.

BTW, I have had disagreements and falling-outs with some people in the movement, but I just let these pass and moved on. Personally, I don't know what would be accomplished by following them around the net and continuing the fight on message boards for years on end. Most people seeing it would have no interest in these personal feuds.

Before I leave, I'll mention that its not even the fact that you people don't like each other and want to argue and attack each other, but rather its the vulgar style of posting. That certainly doesn't reflect well on anyone involved - especially people claiming to be Christians.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 02:38 | User Profile

Well Sir I take offense at this statement, I've Been a Commercial helicopter pilot since I was 18 years of age, and served as an AWO in the US Army. I currently make my living in said profession and definitely work with high tech gadgets daily, but also gadgets that require a high level of coordination to operate.:furious: [QUOTE=Okiereddust]What's AN? Heretic! :lol: I'll leave your posts here - its self evidentwhy you guys can't stick around at any message board, [color=Red]at least those who have evolved far enough from the stone age to know how to run such hi-tech gadgets, as puters and tangs.[/color][/QUOTE]


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 03:21 | User Profile

6KILLER, do you want a pound of flesh closest to her heart? Good grief, have some Christian mercy and just let it go! Act like a gentleman and a good Godly man. Do you have no mercy? I know you know that God does not agree with this kind of behavior… put Jesus first.


Ponce

2005-02-04 03:24 | User Profile

To: Martin

Fm: Ponce

BT

Are you a jew? YES or NO?

BT

K


Rapid Roy

2005-02-04 03:29 | User Profile

Just my 2 cents about the whole issue. I don't know any of these people personally. I have visited Stormfront many times, never created an ID there just poked around and read what looked interesting. I've looked around here quite a bit to and for some reason just now was compelled to create an ID. A lot of the interesting stuff took place in the theology section at Stormfront, so I spent much of my time there paying attention to the theology of the different folks. I saw 6Killer post there and I must say 6killer you are one intelligent dude when it comes to Christianty and history. I enjoyed reading many of the links and information that you provided there. I wish that you would continue that here, I think you have a lot to offer in the way of intelligent discussion. Perhaps that is why the Downeys mistreated you the way you say they did because of the way you made such a fantastic argument for your position. Frankly, theirs was rather watered down and that was obvious too. I mean come on, if your going to believe in the God of the Bible surely you must believe that there is actually a Satan too. Honestly, too much Bible scripture to support that, rather than there is to support the obviously flawed version that Mark Downey expounds upon. And then you have the preterists there too. Good God don't get me started on them, absolutely absurd ! 6killer you, and that Branrat fellow and yes of course saxonrage most definitely made mince meat of the Orthodox fellows. Yes, I'd say that it was your intellectual prowess that caused the trouble with the moderation team there, because I saw you fellows attacked over and over again, putting up with insults and name calling and of course the mods never did anything about that, but I do not remember ever seeing you fellows resort to the same tactics. You all just used good resources and facts to make your positions known and made a very good argument for what you believe the Bible says.

Now about Martin Lindstedt. I don't know you either. Obviously you are pee-owd at the Downey's and perhaps with good reason, I don't know and I don't really care about that. But what I do see and as a few other people have suggested, perhaps you'd be better received here if you didn't use so much vulgarity about that. Just say your piece about the issue and then move on to another subject. Something with some substance to it perhaps. Obviously you also are an intelligent man. Why not display some of that brain for the folks to appreciate.

As I said, just my 2 cents. Good luck all and have a good night.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 04:37 | User Profile

No! I don't want a pound of flesh, but it would be nice if Mark would stand up and be a man, and rein her in by putting her in her place. She interjects her self entirely too much among the menfolk, as has been evident not only on these forums, but at many Christian Identity meetings. I've actually been praying that she would lose her birth control pills, and come up pregnant, with sextuplets, because I think that's what she needs. She would have a whole lot less time to impose herself on us.:smartass:[QUOTE=Gabrielle]6KILLER, do you want a pound of flesh closest to her heart? Good grief, have some Christian mercy and just let it go! Act like a gentleman and a good Godly man. Do you have no mercy? I know you know that God does not agree with this kind of behavior… put Jesus first.[/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-04 05:08 | User Profile

Thanks for the kind words. I actually don't hate Mark or Deb, but believe me I do understand the frustration of people like Martin. And like him, I've been banned from quite a few forums, albeit not because of vulgarity , but because I was stating the truth. I do know Mark & Deb personally, although they wouldn't know me unless I posted my name. My uncle and Pastor Gulett, both had to endure 2 days of Mark's transcribed, drab sermons at a meeting in Montana last summer. My uncle said he swore he could observe the hair growing on his arm, before Mark had finished. As far as vulgarity goes I heard the Downey's were a little iritated at Pastor Herrell for his vulgarity and pressed him for an apology. But you are right we were continuously attacked by the likes of HOB, Jamescreatard, Pycca88, 76WMD, Ibere, Folk & Fake you name it and nothing was done about it. Of course Don Black and david Duke don't really care they would rather not have the CI forum anyway. They would rather see time devoted to Odin worship, who incidentally was a man that was a descendant of Priam king of Troy and the Biblical Judah. Hell! we might as well worship Adolf Hitler, it makes just as much sense.:hitler: [QUOTE=Rapid Roy]Just my 2 cents about the whole issue. I don't know any of these people personally. I have visited Stormfront many times, never created an ID there just poked around and read what looked interesting. I've looked around here quite a bit to and for some reason just now was compelled to create an ID. A lot of the interesting stuff took place in the theology section at Stormfront, so I spent much of my time there paying attention to the theology of the different folks. I saw 6Killer post there and I must say 6killer you are one intelligent dude when it comes to Christianty and history. I enjoyed reading many of the links and information that you provided there. I wish that you would continue that here, I think you have a lot to offer in the way of intelligent discussion. Perhaps that is why the Downeys mistreated you the way you say they did because of the way you made such a fantastic argument for your position. Frankly, theirs was rather watered down and that was obvious too. I mean come on, if your going to believe in the God of the Bible surely you must believe that there is actually a Satan too. Honestly, too much Bible scripture to support that, rather than there is to support the obviously flawed version that Mark Downey expounds upon. And then you have the preterists there too. Good God don't get me started on them, absolutely absurd ! 6killer you, and that Branrat fellow and yes of course saxonrage most definitely made mince meat of the Orthodox fellows. Yes, I'd say that it was your intellectual prowess that caused the trouble with the moderation team there, because I saw you fellows attacked over and over again, putting up with insults and name calling and of course the mods never did anything about that, but I do not remember ever seeing you fellows resort to the same tactics. You all just used good resources and facts to make your positions known and made a very good argument for what you believe the Bible says.

Now about Martin Lindstedt. I don't know you either. Obviously you are pee-owd at the Downey's and perhaps with good reason, I don't know and I don't really care about that. But what I do see and as a few other people have suggested, perhaps you'd be better received here if you didn't use so much vulgarity about that. Just say your piece about the issue and then move on to another subject. Something with some substance to it perhaps. Obviously you also are an intelligent man. Why not display some of that brain for the folks to appreciate.

As I said, just my 2 cents. Good luck all and have a good night.[/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-04 05:20 | User Profile

Gabrielle are you the same Gabielle, that Pastor Gulett banned from the AN Forum along with Pastor Downey and Deb? It seems to me that the 3 of you need to exercise some of the Christian love and forgive that transgression.:wink:[QUOTE=Gabrielle]6KILLER, do you want a pound of flesh closest to her heart? Good grief, have some Christian mercy and just let it go! Act like a gentleman and a good Godly man. Do you have no mercy? I know you know that God does not agree with this kind of behavior… put Jesus first.[/QUOTE]


john b. whiteman

2005-02-04 05:36 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Texas Dissident, would you allow some guy to come here and speak about your loved ones like Martin is doing in this thread? This slander and filth has NOTHING to do with free speech. With freedom comes responsibility! This unchristian badgering and persecution of a woman is doing nothing for Christianity, or your board’s good name. Do you think God would approve of this? I am asking you not only to please close this thread, but to please remove this ungodly filth. Please consider my words. Thank you.[/QUOTE] Seems a little harsh to me. Why not just put him on your ignore list instead of censoring him? Others (such as myself) find his information interesting and educational. Those that don't like it can just ignore it don't you think?


Rapid Roy

2005-02-04 05:52 | User Profile

[QUOTE=john b. whiteman]Seems a little harsh to me. Why not just put him on your ignore list instead of censoring him? Others (such as myself) find his information interesting and educational. Those that don't like it can just ignore it don't you think?[/QUOTE] Indeed. Just a few threads ago this same Gabrielle was talking about the mercy of Christ and here she wants to show no mercy. What happened to the love of Christ Gabrielle ? Or is that reserved only for people that YOU think deserve it ?

Lets just see what Christ himself says. Matthew 25

"35": For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

"36": Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

"37": Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

"38": When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

"39": Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

"40": And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

"41": Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

"42": For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

"43": I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

"44": Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

"45": Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 06:15 | User Profile

This all started at the old AN Forum, where Pastor Gulett was sole moderator. Mark & Deb Downey and Gabrielle all three taking a trick from the Amalekites, made themselves most unwelcome. And Pastor Gulett running a Forum where one is expected to behave as an adult, was forced to ban them, because of their childish actions. Well they are up to their same childish and petty tricks only Don Black was naive enough to make moderators of them. They don't want intelligent debate in their forum. They don't want anyone to challenge their views or authority. They want to reign and be king. No matter what they say about brotherly love, it's all lip service to them. What did Christ say. They honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. :caiphas:[QUOTE=Rapid Roy]Indeed. Just a few threads ago this same Gabrielle was talking about the mercy of Christ and here she wants to show no mercy. What happened to the love of Christ Gabrielle ? Or is that reserved only for people that YOU think deserve it ?

Lets just see what Christ himself says. Matthew 25

"35": For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

"36": Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

"37": Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

"38": When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

"39": Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

"40": And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

"41": Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

"42": For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

"43": I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

"44": Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

"45": Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.[/QUOTE]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-04 07:43 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Texas Dissident, would you allow some guy to come here and speak about your loved ones like Martin is doing in this thread? This slander and filth has NOTHING to do with free speech. With freedom comes responsibility! This unchristian badgering and persecution of a woman is doing nothing for Christianity, or your board’s good name. Do you think God would approve of this? I am asking you not only to please close this thread, but to please remove this ungodly filth. Please consider my words. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Texas Dissident, Gabbyrelle is a liar. Several posts ago she claimed that she was not a friend to the Downeys. Of course that was after I had caught her in a lie concerning her going to VNN/TGMNN and voting in a poll for myself as "Dumbest VNN Poster."

Gabbyrelle is simply like that. Just another lying femnishevik whining that I seek to remove her pals Sapphira and Downey from this Forum by repeating what is common knowledge among Christian Identity concerning the unsavory past of the Downeys.

Gabbyrelle got ridiculed last spring for my repeating the common knowledge about the Downeys on VNN, back before Alex Linder decided to open up his own ZOG Witness Protection Program for Traitor Glenn Miller. Then she told Sapphira and Sapphira joined VNN, followed by Downey. These goofy 'Christian' femnishevik females screetched for my banishment. Of course they were ridiculed by the largely a-theist VNNers, even though I wasn't loved overmuch myself there. It was because these 'christian' females were EVERYTHING which a-theist and non-atheist despises about estrogen-drip churchianity.

Since both Gabbyrelle and Sapphira were calling for my censorship and banishment on VNN, the VNNers most certainly believed my side of the story, that Sapphira Downey, as part of some jew plot for some reason had Pastor Willie Martin banned from a jewhoogruppen taken over by a FBI informant calling himself Andy Anderson, a known misceginator. AndyAnderson had taken over a CI group set up by ZOG in order to keep tabs on CI activists in the summer of 1999. By May 2000, when Y2Kaos went bust, the jewhoogruppen was given over to this 'Andy' and Andy proceeded to censor off White men. In my case, Andy claimed that I had been a victim of ASUS -- Accidental Self-Unsubscription Syndrome. In any case, I asked willie Martin to quit, but Willie did so, then signed back up, and was used by Andy to serve as moderator for cover.

However, like 6-Killer, the Dual-Seedliners would get disenchanted by one Meggie (Baal-Bitch) Butts, who had me kicked off my ISP, and the promotion of jews, like one John Perna, a jew caught advertising his motels as 'gay preferred.' And then one Lt. Colonel Richard Niemela, a Finnish jew hating Dual-Seedline came into the picture. As a result, the Dual-Seedline element got angry and like 6Killer, would say something arch, or even 'hateful' about these jews and femnisheviks, and would be banned. Whereupon they would look me up, and I'd send them to genuine DSL listservers. Sometimes an idiot named James Templeton (Simpleton) would drag one of my screeds to their board, and get cussed for dragging that dead skunk of contention (like Ill Fagno did onto ODES) onto their listserver, and then they'd delete the offending dead skunk, er, post, and then whine about what was said on the deleted post and people would come over to my listservers and read it in its entirety. Used to provide all manner of entertainment.

But by April 2002, Andy got tired of being called a liar and hypocrite, and so he banned every single Dual-Seedliner except Willie Martin and one of the very few second-generation Christian Identity men, who was, of course, Dual-Seedline as his parents had followed Gerald L.K. Smith, then migrated over to Wesley Swift. This second generation CI couldn't understand what the fuss was about. Weren't ALL CI Dual-Seedline?

This is where Sapphira comes in. Since there were no more DSLers on that jewhoogruppen, Sapphira, like Salome of King Herod Andy demanded Willie Martin's head, er, banning. And Salome, er Sapphira, er, Klunt got it!

Now I had begged, pleaded, demanded of Willie that he quit. And I was pleased that Sapphira had in effect gotten Willie kicked off. But nobody but nobody does dirt to a Dual-Seedline brother. I sent some markers due out and said that I wanted some dirt on that damned bitch and I wanted it yesterday. You see, I don't consider myself a pastor. I consider myself a hatchetman and an executioner. Strike at the root, trunk, branch. Exterminate unto the Seventh [De]Generation of the spawn of Satan. I'm not a 6Killer, I'm a 666Killer.

Well, to my great pleasure, some dirt appeared. It seems like the Washington State Grand Dragon has an unruly promiscuous wife abrogating to herself the title of 'Klailiff' and so, he would pimp her out to the rest of the Klan. Eventually the 'Kludd,' the third-in-command ran off with the Klailiff, and a divorce was sought and given out. The Kludd was Downey. The Klailiff was Debby. Debby DunSeattle DunOlpympia, DunPortOrchard, and maybe even Debby DunDalles. :clap: Of course, with the divorce, the Klan wasn't the same as it used to be now that the sexual mascot was not putting out and the cow was putting out only for one steer. But still, Klailiff and Kludd kept their self-given titles. But I prefer to give them more useful descriptive titles, which have stuck, i.e. 'Klunt' and 'Ksludge' or 'KlhumperofKlunt.'

Now what brought that on? Now if it was just a matter of some ex-whore making good and settling down and behaving herself, then like Jesus Christ, I'd have had to forgive, and, more importantly, forget. After all, living in SW Missouri and the Downey's didos occurring in Washington State, what is it to me?

But it is something to me when the Downeys and Gabbyrelle take it upon themselves to fight with Christian Israel, be it Dual-Seedline, or even the One-Seedline nurseries of baby lambs of YHWH. When I see some ravening dogs, and especially rabid baal-bitches, well, ALWAYS pump a slug or two in their guts so that they won't be in any mood to be chasing lambs of YHWH and they'll have something to think about how their father, Satan, has seen fit to reward them before they fester and croak off before they enter Hell.

These spawn of Satan are not Dual Seedline. They are not One-Seedline. For whatever reason they associate with jews, yap the jew lies, scheme and plot against Christian Identity, and then, when their past criminal activities and the new ones identical to the old ones are brought up, these pewling spawn of Satan whine that their past victims and the devout are 'slandering' them.

Yet when asked to explain their past history, and why they cause trouble for both Dual-Seedline and One-Seedline alike, they have nothing but lies, half-truths, and evasions in response. For over a year, neither Klunt nor Ksludge Downey could say anything about my published findings other than that myself and others were spreading 'malicious gossip.' No denial that it wasn't true, merely that it shouldn't be aired. Yet what do they expect, but that those they silence by their whines and sanctimony to repeat this common knowledge concerning both their past -- and present? Then in July 2003, there was another whining on the part of Klunt asking that I be banned on a different listserver, and an extremely evasive 'answer' from both Klunt and Downey, each of which merely confirmed their past infamy. If, like on VNN, Klunt is pressed to tell her side of the story, she will whine that "This is only giving Lindstedt more ammunition" -- which it is. I've been notorious the past decade in ferreting out agents provacateur and informants.

[url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/rrogues.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/rrogues.html[/url]

Are they or are they not demanding censorship on this forum after having practiced it on $tormfront? The answer is 'yes,' they demand censorship of those who know their past history. They practice ruthless censorship on $tormfront.

The question is whether or not Original Dissent owes anything to $tormfront, or owes anything to the enemies of Christian Identity, both Dual-Seedline or One-Seedline.

If I ran a v-bulletin Forum, I would let both contending sides compete for the decision as to who is telling the truth. But that is not good enough for either Gabbyrelle nor Klunt. When given a chance to speak on VNN, they merely infuriated the young a-theist punks not with a defense of their past, but rather got bogged down whining that the audience of the hostile VNN Forum should be ashamed for being anti-Christian, and then demanded, without an iota of intelligence, that the VNN hostiles should be banned.

Texas Dissident, Gabbyrelle lies that I have slandered your loved ones. Insofar as I know, you don't care overmuch about Christian Identity, but you don't bother to attack us. Gabbyrelle, with all the intelligence of some femnishevik jew, is claiming that I've holoco$ted Klunt and Downey, and need to have some limitation produced upon what she deems to be a limitation upon a White man's free speech. Gabbyrelle has as much respect for free speech as the jew Paul Bremer did when he shut down Shia cleric Sadr's newspaper because it was 'telling lies' about jews and ZOG. The end result was intensification of the Iraqi freedom fighters against the ZOG occupation of Iraq.

I consider Gabbyrelle and the Downeys to be the spawn of Satan. They have no place within Christian Identity. But, like their brethren, the jews, they have but a short time left, seeking what little Christian Israelite lambs they may devour. Now I am not asking, much less demanding, that you silence Gabbyrelle or the Downeys. Any sheep wanting to end up as a deposit of dog-shit deserves what it gets, especially after being given warning. But why should Texas Dissent get involved in religious disputes concerning Christian Identity? Is this not the thread which has been allocated for these disputes?

I think that Gabbyrelle and Klunt will vacate the premises if they are not given what they want, censorship of Dual-Seedline White Men. They leave whenever and wherever they cannot prevail. Because of their past history and present conduct, they can survive only in their ghetto on $tormfront.

And what, does ODES owe $tormfront?

--Martin Lindstedt Malleus Klunt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-04 08:17 | User Profile

[QUOTE=wild_bill]I agree. And its not like I see eye-to-eye with the Downeys. We definitely have our disagreements.

In all the years I have been on the net and encountered Mr. Lindstadt, he seems to ALWAYS be involved in some kind of campaign of slander against someone or some group - usually making liberal use of vulgarity and sexual inuendos. Why does this board have to be contaminated with this kind of garbage? I haven't seen anyone posting stuff like this before. :censored: [/QUOTE] I would say that you have chosen your side based upon who you are. Obviously you are on the side of the Downeys.

Now of course I don't respect your decision, because now insofar as I am concerned you are a spawn of Satan since you chose to be with them other spawn of Satan, i.e. Gabbyrelle and the Downeys.

You see, there simply is no 'winning' any religious or political argument with a Dual-Seedliner. Why? Because any hostility to a Dual-Seedliner is automatically chalked up to Genesis 3:15. Since, as a Dual-Seedliner, I am a Son of God, and for some reason you don't like me, then it must be because of the mutual Genesis 3:15 emnity. I'm a Son of YHWH and jewr the spawn of Satan. End of argument. :furious:

Now some might say that the above is a very simplistic argument. I'd agree. But it always works out to my benefit. It is what is on the mind of any true Son of YHWH as well. There simply is no arguing with the Blood. It also works out pretty good in practice. We don't have to worry about motivation or get into jew psycho-anal-is. Mild_Swill is with the Downeys and Gabbyrelle in wanting to censor Dual-Seedliners. That's because Mild_Swill is the spawn of Satan. Now if Mild_Swill wants to seek a neutral position -- or YHWH Forbid! -- come over to the Dual-Seedline position, Mild_Swill will have to prove that he is merely the adopted spawn of Satan and that he wishes to rejoin his true Christian Israelite brethren. Something Mild_Swill won't be able to do behind an Internut a-lie-ass on the ODES Forum. Something unlikely to happen because "of all those years of contact with myself" and the resulting Genesis 3:15 enmity.

Heads, I'm the Son of YHWH. Tails, jewr the spawn of Satan. Mild_Swill is blued, jewd, screwd & tatooed.

I can't lose that bet.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-04 08:34 | User Profile

[QUOTE=wild_bill]Maybe this is a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway. If you seedliners are getting kicked off message boards so often, why don't you start your own message board and then your problem will be solved?[/QUOTE]It is a dishonest question, par for the spawn of Satan.

The $tormfront Forum routinely bans DSLers. If Pete Peters' One-Seedline sheep ever bothered to come to $tormfront and take Klunt and Ksludge Downey on for their lies about Pete Peters, then the OSLers would get banned as well. But these OSLers are happy to give in their ZOG-bux to Peters, even if he made up some new 'holy daze' like his Day 91 Door Day, or something adding an additional offering day for Pete Peters. Pete Peters shears his flock of OSLers, but doesn't skin them. Plus the better of Peters' OSLers grow into DSL, which is an additional reason we DSLers don't like these mangy dogs getting into what is a part of our nursery stock. We don't love Peters, but somebody benign is going to be in charge of the OSLers, so it might as well be Peters.

Whenever I wish to visit with Peters' bunch, I go to Peters, say I am Dual-Seedline, and I'm on my best behavior. Peters respects that as long as I behave, and so I do because I'm a man of my word. In fact, I've given Peters the 'heads-up' concerning the Downeys over the years. Why do you think the Downeys are no longer welcome at Peters' meetings? :cowboy:

Look, Mild_Swill, ODES is not your message board. It is run by the ODES faithful. I have no more interest in running them to much of a lather than I am interested in running Peters' herd of OSLers to a frazzle.

If you want censorship of Dual-Seedliners, then there is $tormfront. Itz a Downey protectorate ghetto.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-04 09:31 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Well first of all, Martin clearly has a personal problem with the Downey's and probably a lot of other people for that matter, which he can't avoid referring to. It certainly is unique to this board, but it inasmuch as it is to some extent a matter of some knowledge, involving 3 people, all of whom have waived their right to anonymity and wish to stand as public representatives for their respective branches of CI's its evaluation criteria aren't entirely standards are too some extent also public record the Downey's can't be compared entirely to what a similar situation with us. For a pastor and any other representative of God's word for that matter, one's personal integrity is part of the message, and that's why I've hesitate to ban discussion of this and associated parties permantently from here. Okie, the Fruits of the Tree of Knowledge Concerning Klunt & Evil is long out of the bottle. Everyone knows what happened. I'm merely digging in the scandalous history which is of interest to more people than what is really evil about Sapphira Downey, Gabbyrelle, and others. It isn't that these scruffy idiots couldn't handle rumor-control at a Klan gang-bang, it's that everywhere they go they try to censor Dual-Seedliners and cause trouble trying to rustle One-Seedline sheep. The Downeys are not one of the 'respective branches of CI' -- they are despised wherever they go for their past history. Wherever they are not known, like the Jukes and Kallikaks, they immediately make people despise them for what they do that's new. 6Killer spoke about Downey's boring everyone reading his sophoric self-serving sermons. I can't read one of them myself, much less endure having it read to me by Downey.

Nobody ordained Downey, Downey ordained himself, probably with Crisco oil or Jurgens Lotion, after Larry Blanchard run off to Tennessee, leaving no forwarding address. Read about it yourself on $tormfront.

If there is no censorship on ODES, eventually Downey, Klunt, Gabbyrelle, Mild_Swill will strike the tent and beat feet back to $tormfront, their ghetto. You won't see any DSLer or even OSLer begging for censorship protection from the Downeys because it is they who need protection from discussion and ridicule about their past and present history.

The fact of the matter is that neither $tormfront nor ODES really want a CI forum. However, any racialist/racist White Nationalist Movement board or forum will end up having to address Christian Identity because it is the only Fighting Faith that the Movement/Resistance has against the jew/ZOG. If it is a genuine Christian Identity subforum, then Dual-Seedline shall always prevail over the moderate OSL and the confused chaotic Preterists.

(Preterism, with its saying that Jesus Christ came and went and all prophecy was fulfilled by 70 A.D. is so screwball that nobody, even Preterists, can maintain more than a minutes argument over dogma. There's simply nothing understood enough to argue over. Typical DSL 'argument' with a Preterist: "Still believing that Preterist shit? Yeah. OK.")

$tormfront has its CI sub-forum. Regrettably for $tormfront, it chose as its CI moderators the Downeys, who both DSL and OSL despises. As someone remarked, sooner or later David Duke or Don Black will either have to get a real CI board, or let the Downeys drag them down. Right now $tormfront is a cash cow and CI adherants don't have much money. What we do have is fanaticism, leadership, and motivation. $tormfront is a paytriot board.

[QUOTE=Okiereddust] Perhaps I thought Martin might like to use this time we've given him to tell his own story, and try to give a little better account of himself, even if I have to stop reading his posts and split them off into one Martin only thread out of irritation, and a slight aid/substitute for the "ignore" button to tose who don't habitually use it. Perhaps maybe he might have something to say, and give a better account of himself other than a person who is obviously way over the edge and who has gone on a personal slander mission in gratuitus revenge for being banned once from a board, a banning it appears any reasonable person would agree with.

Forcing me to read through his posts is quite a punishment for this perhaps unwise decision. Personally I've heard enough, as you have, and feel the need to clean this board up as you say.[/QUOTE]And I thought that I was entertaining at the very least.

I agree that you seek to keep this discussion on my own personal thread. However, when you give a little bit of censorship, you give the Downeys and associates the false hope that they will pull a $tormfront on ODES. They are like the stupid dogs chasing the mechanical rabbit around the track. If they catch the mechanical rabbit and learn that it isn't a real rabbit, then they'll have to be put down because then they won't feel like chasing fake rabbits.

The Downeys are dead ends. They are hated by DSL. They are hated by OSL. They are hated by the Washington and Oregon State Klan. No wonder they have to squeal like ADL kikes about 'stopping the hate' through censorship!

You already banned me once for making fun of Klunt. If you think my posts are bad, at least they are interesting. Can you imagine trying to read one of Downey's sermons to the very end? Why not put up a Nyquil section for Downey's sermons. Open up an ODES temple prostitution section for Klunt, too, while you are at it.

But don't $tormfront yourself, ODES. All that accomplishes is giving the Downeys, Gabbyrelle, et. al. power to make your forum hated by genuine Identity Christians, especially the Dual-Seedliners, the most dynamic section of the Resistance.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-04 09:37 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]To: Martin

Fm: Ponce

BT

Are you a jew? YES or NO?

BT

K[/QUOTE]No. I'm not a jew.

I have a web page. I've run for political office many times. I have a street address. I have my picture posted. I have a Swedish name because nearly 3/4 of my family came from Sweden, with a small portion of Prussian and a smaller portion of Scots-Irish.

That said, why shouldn't I suspect you of being jew?

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-04 10:08 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Rapid Roy]Just my 2 cents about the whole issue. I don't know any of these people personally. I have visited Stormfront many times, never created an ID there just poked around and read what looked interesting. I've looked around here quite a bit to and for some reason just now was compelled to create an ID. A lot of the interesting stuff took place in the theology section at Stormfront, so I spent much of my time there paying attention to the theology of the different folks. I saw 6Killer post there and I must say 6killer you are one intelligent dude when it comes to Christianty and history. I enjoyed reading many of the links and information that you provided there. I wish that you would continue that here, I think you have a lot to offer in the way of intelligent discussion. Perhaps that is why the Downeys mistreated you the way you say they did because of the way you made such a fantastic argument for your position. Frankly, theirs was rather watered down and that was obvious too. I mean come on, if your going to believe in the God of the Bible surely you must believe that there is actually a Satan too. Honestly, too much Bible scripture to support that, rather than there is to support the obviously flawed version that Mark Downey expounds upon. And then you have the preterists there too. Good God don't get me started on them, absolutely absurd ! 6killer you, and that Branrat fellow and yes of course saxonrage most definitely made mince meat of the Orthodox fellows. Yes, I'd say that it was your intellectual prowess that caused the trouble with the moderation team there, because I saw you fellows attacked over and over again, putting up with insults and name calling and of course the mods never did anything about that, but I do not remember ever seeing you fellows resort to the same tactics. You all just used good resources and facts to make your positions known and made a very good argument for what you believe the Bible says.

Now about Martin Lindstedt. I don't know you either. Obviously you are pee-owd at the Downey's and perhaps with good reason, I don't know and I don't really care about that. But what I do see and as a few other people have suggested, perhaps you'd be better received here if you didn't use so much vulgarity about that. Just say your piece about the issue and then move on to another subject. Something with some substance to it perhaps. Obviously you also are an intelligent man. Why not display some of that brain for the folks to appreciate.

As I said, just my 2 cents. Good luck all and have a good night.[/QUOTE] OK, Roy. Let me explain my vulgarity. You're not the first or hundred-and-first to complain about it.

First of all, I am not a pastor. I am a politician and a hatchet-man for the Resistance. I choose my words in order to make an impression with my audience. And sometimes nothing gets my message across, especially with the overly sanctimonious, than to give them a good swift kick in the nuts or a battle-axe to the head after dipping said battle-axe in a cesspool.

I'll be the very first to admit that this isn't very nice, but it is effective.

Like I told John Ashcroft, the sanctimonious ex-governor of Missouri and Attorney General when he was running for U.S. Senate in August 1994, "I've been called a number of things, but nice guy isn't one of them." This was after I called him a pussy because he wouldn't commit, one way or another, to an initiative petition and referendum concerning whether raising taxes was to be limited to a vote of the People or the politicians in the Missouri general assembly. One of the members of the Granby Police Board whispered into Ashcroft's ear that I had been into a fistfight the week before during a Piglice&Kouncil-Kritter Riot after being assaulted by an annoyed city kouncil-kritter. Ashcroft said, "Oh, but I'm sure he's a nice guy" with that weaned-on-a-lemon sour look he's always had.

Ashcroft was/is a sanctimonious Son Of Belial, and I hate sanctimony. Every time I see it, I assume that I am dealing with a lying snake too dishonest to admit to itself that it is a lying snake, so it oozes the protective/offensive slime of self-righteousness. Sorta like Klunt Downey and Gabbyrelle do. Well, I got just the ticket to put paid to sanctimony and that is violent vulgarity, not too much to damage the root stock of the honestly devout, but more than enough to assure the spawn of Satan involved that there is much more of that in the warehouse just waiting to be trucked on in, and that I'm willing to do whatever it takes to prevail -- and enjoy every minute of it.

I'm a fighting man, and a fighting man fights. I don't fight to win some sort of popularity contest. I fight because somebody has to and usually that ends up by default being me. And then, when somebody whines about why I fought the way I fought, it was because I wanted to win without getting hurt in the scrape. You can't possibly understand unless you had to do the same.

These people, the Downeys and allies, are the spawn of Satan. Today we look with horror at the Cathar or Albigensian Crusader, when asked, what to do with prisoners on the day of battle when the war was to be won tomorrow, and the Crusader said, "Kill them all. God will save His Own." But what else could a fighting man, convinced of the righteousness of his Cause, say?

Cut me some slack, Roy. We're not enemies.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 12:57 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]Gabrielle are you the same Gabielle, that Pastor Gulett banned from the AN Forum along with Pastor Downey and Deb? It seems to me that the 3 of you need to exercise some of the Christian love and forgive that transgression.:wink:[/QUOTE]

No, I have never been banned from any forum. We don't need any satan with evil men like you around.


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 14:34 | User Profile

Okiereddust and Texas Dissident, let’s say I want to prove something bad about you guys, so I start my argument with a paragraph about how you two are sodomites who played pony with several Traditional Catholic priests who waited in line for you on their Hadley Davison’s bikes. Even though that had nothing to do with my argument… I have just won the argument with the pen of slander and malice, because everyone who reads my argument will already have on their minds something (against you) that most of the white world disagrees with; whether it be adultery or pony-riding.
Again, if Mental Martin was saying this about your loved ones, I know you would at least get rid of the bad stuff and tell him to stick to the argument.

Texas, you go on about VNN and how bad it is – yet you allow this filth! LOL. Before you pull the twig out of Linder’s eye, you best pull the log out of yours.

Is it because you hate CI so much that you allow this bull to remain, knowing full well it is immoral and it makes CI people look like nuts and scum?

Klaliff is not a friend of mine…as a matter, after things she’s done to me, I would count her more of an enemy … but the truth is the truth, and it is not white, right, or Christian to allow this crap to go on - and that is just what it is: CRAP!

Mental Martin, for the third time, I do not know nor do I care to know Klaliff. She is in no way a friend of mine. Go read some old posts at Stormfront’s Lounge and you will see what I mean. But, Martin, as long as forums are opened to women, there is nothing bad or wrong with women posting… if the forums are closed to women, then that is a whole another matter.

LOL. You know damn well I never said you slandered Texas Dissident’s loved ones… you are three folds worse than any jew, and if you represent dual seedline – it must be evil. You do not fight with God’s armor…you fight with your beloved Satan’s armor. If you really wanted to do God’s will, you would not have stooped to such evilness. God forgive you for what you are doing not only to another man and his beloved wife, but also what you have been doing in His holy Name. Don’t mess with God, Martin… come judgment day, there will be hell to pay…literally


Rapid Roy

2005-02-04 14:55 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Okiereddust and Texas Dissident, let’s say I want to prove something bad about you guys, so I start my argument with a paragraph about how you two are sodomites who played pony with several Traditional Catholic priests who waited in line for you on their Hadley Davison’s bikes. Even though that had nothing to do with my argument… I have just won the argument with the pen of slander and malice, because everyone who reads my argument will already have on their minds something (against you) that most of the white world disagrees with; whether it be adultery or pony-riding. Again, if Mental Martin was saying this about your loved ones, I know you would at least get rid of the bad stuff and tell him to stick to the argument.

Texas, you go on about VNN and how bad it is – yet you allow this filth! LOL. Before you pull the twig out of Linder’s eye, you best pull the log out of yours.

Is it because you hate CI so much that you allow this bull to remain, knowing full well it is immoral and it makes CI people look like nuts and scum?

Klaliff is not a friend of mine…as a matter, after things she’s done to me, I would count her more of an enemy … but the truth is the truth, and it is not white, right, or Christian to allow this crap to go on - and that is just what it is: CRAP!

Mental Martin, for the third time, I do not know nor do I care to know Klaliff. She is in no way a friend of mine. Go read some old posts at Stormfront’s Lounge and you will see what I mean. But, Martin, as long as forums are opened to women, there is nothing bad or wrong with women posting… if the forums are closed to women, then that is a whole another matter.

LOL. You know damn well I never said you slandered Texas Dissident’s loved ones… you are three folds worse than any jew, and if you represent dual seedline – it must be evil. You do not fight with God’s armor…you fight with your beloved Satan’s armor. If you really wanted to do God’s will, you would not have stooped to such evilness. God forgive you for what you are doing not only to another man and his beloved wife, but also what you have been doing in His holy Name. Don’t mess with God, Martin… come judgment day, there will be hell to pay…literally[/QUOTE] Gabrielle. You do not show the love of Christ yourself. I noticed that you didn't pay much attention to the scripture I quoted in reference to your behavior. If this woman (Klaliff) as you say, is your enemy, why are you sticking up for her so vigorously ? If she is so bad, as for you to call her your enemy, then if she (as you accuse Martin) represents Christian Identity or in her case non-seedline, then it also must be evil, hence making you, also evil.


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 15:21 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Rapid Roy]Gabrielle. You do not show the love of Christ yourself. I noticed that you didn't pay much attention to the scripture I quoted in reference to your behavior. If this woman (Klaliff) as you say, is your enemy, why are you sticking up for her so vigorously ? If she is so bad, as for you to call her your enemy, then if she (as you accuse Martin) represents Christian Identity or in her case non-seedline, then it also must be evil, hence making you, also evil.[/QUOTE]

You should not slander people; whether you like them or not.
Rapid Roy, I find it very hard to believe that you are not ONE of them.


Rapid Roy

2005-02-04 15:31 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]You should not slander people; whether you like them or not. Rapid Roy, I find it very hard to believe that you are not ONE of them.[/QUOTE] Slander ! Come now Gabrielle, I just pointed out some flaws in your personality as you have been doing so vigorously in Mr Linstedts. But that's not slander to you is it, only when someone points out your own defects does it become slander. Now you reveal another flaw. Paranoia.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 15:56 | User Profile

What does a jew do first? A jew accuses.:caiphas: [QUOTE=Gabrielle]You should not slander people; whether you like them or not. Rapid Roy, I find it very hard to believe that you are not ONE of them.[/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-04 15:58 | User Profile

Yeah! Gabby paranoia will destroy ya'.:yawn: [QUOTE=Rapid Roy]Slander ! Come now Gabrielle, I just pointed out some flaws in your personality as you have been doing so vigorously in Mr Linstedts. But that's not slander to you is it, only when someone points out your own defects does it become slander. Now you reveal another flaw. Paranoia.[/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-04 16:01 | User Profile

That's not what I heard.:wink: Gabby! You're so cute when you're angry.[QUOTE=Gabrielle]No, I have never been banned from any forum. We don't need any satan with evil men like you around.[/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-04 16:03 | User Profile

Nice edit job Gabby. I was told it was a bit vulgar at first.:thumbsup: [QUOTE=Gabrielle]Okiereddust and Texas Dissident, let’s say I want to prove something bad about you guys, so I start my argument with a paragraph about how you two are sodomites who played pony with several Traditional Catholic priests who waited in line for you on their Hadley Davison’s bikes. Even though that had nothing to do with my argument… I have just won the argument with the pen of slander and malice, because everyone who reads my argument will already have on their minds something (against you) that most of the white world disagrees with; whether it be adultery or pony-riding. Again, if Mental Martin was saying this about your loved ones, I know you would at least get rid of the bad stuff and tell him to stick to the argument.

Texas, you go on about VNN and how bad it is – yet you allow this filth! LOL. Before you pull the twig out of Linder’s eye, you best pull the log out of yours.

Is it because you hate CI so much that you allow this bull to remain, knowing full well it is immoral and it makes CI people look like nuts and scum?

Klaliff is not a friend of mine…as a matter, after things she’s done to me, I would count her more of an enemy … but the truth is the truth, and it is not white, right, or Christian to allow this crap to go on - and that is just what it is: CRAP!

Mental Martin, for the third time, I do not know nor do I care to know Klaliff. She is in no way a friend of mine. Go read some old posts at Stormfront’s Lounge and you will see what I mean. But, Martin, as long as forums are opened to women, there is nothing bad or wrong with women posting… if the forums are closed to women, then that is a whole another matter.

LOL. You know damn well I never said you slandered Texas Dissident’s loved ones… you are three folds worse than any jew, and if you represent dual seedline – it must be evil. You do not fight with God’s armor…you fight with your beloved Satan’s armor. If you really wanted to do God’s will, you would not have stooped to such evilness. God forgive you for what you are doing not only to another man and his beloved wife, but also what you have been doing in His holy Name. Don’t mess with God, Martin… come judgment day, there will be hell to pay…literally[/QUOTE]


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 16:10 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]Nice edit job Gabby. I was told it was a bit vulgar at first.:thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

Scumbag, I never edited it and you know it. Am I still cute, dirtbag.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 16:13 | User Profile

You're misinformed Roy, it's not about the love of Christ, for the Love of Christ is not in them. As Christ said all of what they say is lip service. What it is about as the Lady Gabrielle said at first-CENSORSHIP. She and her ilk want to reign as queens, something like her grandmother JezaBel.:caiphas: [QUOTE=Rapid Roy]Gabrielle. You do not show the love of Christ yourself. I noticed that you didn't pay much attention to the scripture I quoted in reference to your behavior. If this woman (Klaliff) as you say, is your enemy, why are you sticking up for her so vigorously ? If she is so bad, as for you to call her your enemy, then if she (as you accuse Martin) represents Christian Identity or in her case non-seedline, then it also must be evil, hence making you, also evil.[/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-04 16:17 | User Profile

So now we are going too start the name calling?:caiphas: I liked your avatar at the AN forum it was much more becoming of you, Gabby.[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Scumbag, I never edited it and you know it. Am I still cute, dirtbag.[/QUOTE]


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 16:20 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]So now we are going too start the name calling?:caiphas: I liked your avatar at the AN forum it was much more becoming of you, Gabby.[/QUOTE]

Sure, I liked your avatar at the gay man's lovers site too. :wink:


6KILLER

2005-02-04 16:27 | User Profile

There again what does a jew do first? A jew accuses. Sorry Gabby, I'm a Happily married heterosexual. I've been happily married for the last 22 years. Are you one of the Daleville virgins?:yawn: [QUOTE=Gabrielle]Sure, I liked your avatar at the gay man's lovers site too. :wink:[/QUOTE]


Rapid Roy

2005-02-04 16:32 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Scumbag, I never edited it and you know it. Am I still cute, dirtbag.[/QUOTE] Gabrielle. Whatever credibility you had before this post, it is now down the toilet. I hope you use a borrowed mouth when you profess the love of Christ, because if you use the same one you use to utter these vulgarities with, it's contaminated like a whited sepulchre, full of dead mens bones. Never again do you have the right to speak of Mr Linstedt's dialogues in an accusatory tone.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 20:43 | User Profile

Pastor Gulett saw it this morning before & after it was edited, Honey! I don't believe the man would lie to me over such trivial matters as you & your posting on OD Forum. Funny thing is happening here Gabby, you say you're not the Gabby from the AN forum, however I have your e-mail address from then, you still have the same address.:wink:Can You explain that ? And again you didn't answer my Question about Daleville, Sweetheart.:caiphas:[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Scumbag, I never edited it and you know it. Am I still cute, dirtbag.[/QUOTE]


Sertorius

2005-02-04 20:52 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]No, I have never been banned from any forum. We don't need any satan with evil men like you around.[/QUOTE]

Gee, Gabrielle, I didn't know you are/were a member of VNN? What would the Bushbots say?


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 22:11 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sertorius]Gee, Gabrielle, I didn't know you are/were a member of VNN? What would the Bushbots say?[/QUOTE]

Why don't you ask him, Clever Hans.


Sertorius

2005-02-04 22:13 | User Profile

Ask who, Gabrielle?


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 22:19 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sertorius]Ask who, Gabrielle?[/QUOTE]

The Pope...


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 22:22 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]Pastor Gulett saw it this morning before & after it was edited, Honey! I don't believe the man would lie to me over such trivial matters as you & your posting on OD Forum. Funny thing is happening here Gabby, you say you're not the Gabby from the AN forum, however I have your e-mail address from then, you still have the same address.:wink:Can You explain that ? [/QUOTE]

You have my email ... that's plenty of proof, duck man.


This is the post you claimed I edited, which I did not.

Nice edit job Gabby. I was told it was a bit vulgar at first. Quote: Originally Posted by Gabrielle Okiereddust and Texas Dissident, let’s say I want to prove something bad about you guys, so I start my argument with a paragraph about how you two are sodomites who played pony with several Traditional Catholic priests who waited in line for you on their Hadley Davison’s bikes. Even though that had nothing to do with my argument… I have just won the argument with the pen of slander and malice, because everyone who reads my argument will already have on their minds something (against you) that most of the white world disagrees with; whether it be adultery or pony-riding. Again, if Mental Martin was saying this about your loved ones, I know you would at least get rid of the bad stuff and tell him to stick to the argument.

Texas, you go on about VNN and how bad it is – yet you allow this filth! LOL. Before you pull the twig out of Linder’s eye, you best pull the log out of yours.

Is it because you hate CI so much that you allow this bull to remain, knowing full well it is immoral and it makes CI people look like nuts and scum?

Klaliff is not a friend of mine…as a matter, after things she’s done to me, I would count her more of an enemy … but the truth is the truth, and it is not white, right, or Christian to allow this crap to go on - and that is just what it is: CRAP!

Mental Martin, for the third time, I do not know nor do I care to know Klaliff. She is in no way a friend of mine. Go read some old posts at Stormfront’s Lounge and you will see what I mean. But, Martin, as long as forums are opened to women, there is nothing bad or wrong with women posting… if the forums are closed to women, then that is a whole another matter.

LOL. You know damn well I never said you slandered Texas Dissident’s loved ones… you are three folds worse than any jew, and if you represent dual seedline – it must be evil. You do not fight with God’s armor…you fight with your beloved Satan’s armor. If you really wanted to do God’s will, you would not have stooped to such evilness. God forgive you for what you are doing not only to another man and his beloved wife, but also what you have been doing in His holy Name. Don’t mess with God, Martin… come judgment day, there will be hell to pay…literally


This is the post I did edit and it was NOT vulgar!

Originally Posted by 6KILLERGabrielle are you the same Gabielle, that Pastor Gulett banned from the AN Forum along with Pastor Downey and Deb? It seems to me that the 3 of you need to exercise some of the Christian love and forgive that transgression.

No, I have never been banned from any forum. We don't need any satan with evil men like you around.


6KILLER

2005-02-04 22:41 | User Profile

Damn! Gabby! You have the composer and virtues of a cobra all coiled up and hissing, in a corner spewing venom at whom ever encroaches upon it. What's with all the name calling? I thought we were civilised and Christian, but hey what would one expect from one of the seven matrilineal ruling witches. from the 'blue legs' tribe:caiphas:

Martin & Rapid Roy, please take note of this link. It will explain much. [url="http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pob/pob_ch11.html"]http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pob/pob_ch11.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]You have my email ... that's plenty of proof, duck man.


This is the post you claimed I edited, which I did not.

Nice edit job Gabby. I was told it was a bit vulgar at first. Quote: Originally Posted by Gabrielle Okiereddust and Texas Dissident, let’s say I want to prove something bad about you guys, so I start my argument with a paragraph about how you two are sodomites who played pony with several Traditional Catholic priests who waited in line for you on their Hadley Davison’s bikes. Even though that had nothing to do with my argument… I have just won the argument with the pen of slander and malice, because everyone who reads my argument will already have on their minds something (against you) that most of the white world disagrees with; whether it be adultery or pony-riding. Again, if Mental Martin was saying this about your loved ones, I know you would at least get rid of the bad stuff and tell him to stick to the argument.

Texas, you go on about VNN and how bad it is – yet you allow this filth! LOL. Before you pull the twig out of Linder’s eye, you best pull the log out of yours.

Is it because you hate CI so much that you allow this bull to remain, knowing full well it is immoral and it makes CI people look like nuts and scum?

Klaliff is not a friend of mine…as a matter, after things she’s done to me, I would count her more of an enemy … but the truth is the truth, and it is not white, right, or Christian to allow this crap to go on - and that is just what it is: CRAP!

Mental Martin, for the third time, I do not know nor do I care to know Klaliff. She is in no way a friend of mine. Go read some old posts at Stormfront’s Lounge and you will see what I mean. But, Martin, as long as forums are opened to women, there is nothing bad or wrong with women posting… if the forums are closed to women, then that is a whole another matter.

LOL. You know damn well I never said you slandered Texas Dissident’s loved ones… you are three folds worse than any jew, and if you represent dual seedline – it must be evil. You do not fight with God’s armor…you fight with your beloved Satan’s armor. If you really wanted to do God’s will, you would not have stooped to such evilness. God forgive you for what you are doing not only to another man and his beloved wife, but also what you have been doing in His holy Name. Don’t mess with God, Martin… come judgment day, there will be hell to pay…literally


This is the post I did edit and it was NOT vulgar!

Originally Posted by 6KILLERGabrielle are you the same Gabielle, that Pastor Gulett banned from the AN Forum along with Pastor Downey and Deb? It seems to me that the 3 of you need to exercise some of the Christian love and forgive that transgression.

No, I have never been banned from any forum. We don't need any satan with evil men like you around.[/QUOTE]


Rapid Roy

2005-02-04 22:49 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]This is the post I did edit and it was NOT vulgar!

No, I have never been banned from any forum. We don't need any satan with evil men like you around.[/QUOTE] Does not really matter, you posted this one and it is vulgar.

[url="http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=99655#post99655"]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=99655#post99655[/url]


Gabrielle

2005-02-04 23:26 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Rapid Roy]Does not really matter, you posted this one and it is vulgar.

[url="http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=99655#post99655"]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=99655#post99655[/url][/QUOTE]

But this is fine... [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=99024&postcount=1[/url]


6KILLER

2005-02-04 23:53 | User Profile

We all know that Martin is a little rough around the edges, but he is our racial kin. The berserker inside sometimes gets the best of him, but his motives are good. He gave a good explanation, as to why he sometimes uses vulgarity. It's his way of pressing the flesh. In other words, people are like lemons, you find out what they are made of by putting pressure on them. And I must add that Martin has done a fine job of discovering what you, klaliff, & kludd really are. My Sweet. I will also add that we racial kinsmen are a patrilineal society. It isn't always good to listen to vulgarity coming from a man-but sometimes necessary. However it is very unbecoming to hear it frrom a woman. As some of the Disney video ditties would say it makes one question your upbringing.:caiphas: [QUOTE=Gabrielle]But this is fine... [url="http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=99024&postcount=1"]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=99024&postcount=1[/url][/QUOTE]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-05 00:01 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabbyrelle]Okiereddust and Texas Dissident, let’s say I want to prove something bad about you guys, so I start my argument with a paragraph about how you two are sodomites who played pony with several Traditional Catholic priests who waited in line for you on their Hadley Davison’s bikes. Even though that had nothing to do with my argument… I have just won the argument with the pen of slander and malice, because everyone who reads my argument will already have on their minds something (against you) that most of the white world disagrees with; whether it be adultery or pony-riding. Again, if Mental Martin was saying this about your loved ones, I know you would at least get rid of the bad stuff and tell him to stick to the argument. Gabby is now self-destructing. She makes up a flawed analogy, claims that it is I who are making fun of Texas Dissent and Okie by yapping about homo Catholic priests on Harleys. Obviously Gabby doesn't know how much such lies, even spoken in jest, can hurt an average Christian White man in an age wherein degeneracy is not only tolerated, but advanced, and the only PC sting left in homophilia is in slurring against the honor and dignity of the White Man.

My digs against Texas Dissent and Okie have been against their stuffiness, and because of their stuffiness their inability to win against evil baal-bitches like Gabby and the Downeys.

Now before Gabby let her little forked tongue get out of control, my point about the degeneracies of the Downeys concerned how they simply hate Dual-Seedline and want to subvert DSL's One-Seedline nurseries under the relatively benign influence of Pastor Pete Peters. If Butler's Remnants on their web page can put up a link to Pete Peters' Scriptures for America, even though Aryan Nations is Dual-Seedline, it is because they have also figured out that the best of the One-Seedliners grow up to become Dual-Seedliners, and therefore it behooves us to ease the growth of our newbies over the doxological split between Peters and DSL. Something I have been harping about for years which is being acted upon. There is a greater seepage of newbies coming from OSL to DSL than from being Babtist Hobbyists to DSL. The lies of the Downeys and the $tormfronters that they were DSL and now are OSL are just that, lies. It has never happened yet. The Downeys never were Christian Identity, merely a feeble-willed fool in the case of Downey and a sanctimonious evil bitch like Klunt absent anything except an extreme force of will which makes her most dangerous, and effective wherein she is not known for what she is.

The sin of the Downeys is censorship. The stories about the Klan gang-bangs are probably true, as the Downeys have never overtly denied what is now common knowledge and in fact have in their own evasive way confirmed the stories. My goal has been to get them confined to their own ghetto, $tormfront for now, later their own jewhoogruppen or forum after $tormfront figures out that their CI section is anything but, and seal them up in their own little bottle both with the cork of their evil doings of censorship, but also with the nasty wax of their sexual peccidillos. What their real evil is is trying to destroy as best they can Christian Identity as a predominately White Israelite male thing, not some femnishevik perversion for the self-worship of evil hags. All femnishevikism is about the advancement of jew and jewdized females -- it always seeks to leak and spread from its sump on the left towards the Right. Klunt & Gabbyrelle's version seeks to make douche-bag slinging femnisheviks the master over the family-oriented Husband-led Dual-Seedline Congregations. They are doomed to fail, they can only prevail where protected, like on $tormfront, and anyplace where they can find anti-CI quasi-men to censor their enemies. ODES shouldn't become one of such places.

Now if it had only been a matter of some round-heeled Klan skank spreading for the Klan after their meeting, I'd never have brought this matter up. After all, the impetus of my desire to find some dirt was upon Klunt's banning of Willie Martin in April 2002 unearthed this matter. Perhaps her Grand Dragon husband knew that she hated White men, and so made Klunt put out her her 'tricks' in return for her 'treats' of getting to lead foolish weak men around by their peckers. But this evil baal-bitch seeks power and control where she should never be allowed, and if it takes a trivial matter, like exposing a harlot plying her trade trying to call in favors due, to be the thing which finishes off Klunt's influence in causing trouble for Christian Identity, then so be it!

This argument is about censorship. The more Gabbyrelle screetches, the more she makes a fool about herself and her sister-in-'arms,' Klunt Downey. She is immeasureably more defeated than before this thread started. The only hope for victory is if Texas Dissent and Okie pull victory for fake CI over defeat imposed, not largely by genuine CI, but by her own flapping forked tongue.

[QUOTE=Gabbyrelle] Texas, you go on about VNN and how bad it is – yet you allow this filth! LOL. Before you pull the twig out of Linder’s eye, you best pull the log out of yours. The fact of the matter is that the matter corrected itself at VNN. Klunt and Gabbyrelle were ridiculed and insulted and told that there never would be any censorship against myself on VNN, and so they left in a huff. Or maybe they left on a Dustbuster with vibrating portable attachments, I forget. But leave they did, and the thread petered out, submerged by other solipsistic "I hate Christianity" threads common to VNN.

The censorship I have been exposed to on VNN/Traitor Glenn Miller News Network is a recent thing, as I was the Christian Identity ringleader in the White Revolution Christmas Coup against Traitor Glenn Miller. I've not been officially banned from VNN/TGMNN, but rather my login password has been tampered with so I simply cannot post any more stuff making fun of Sgt. Snitch and his merry band of mamzerizers and rats on the Lindermillerite board.

Nor is it Texas Dissent's responsibility for the goings on at VNN/TGMNN. Not that he has any power to do anything, any more than I had power to eliminate Traitor Glenn Miller from VNN/TGMNN. Instead it ended up with me getting banned on TGMNN once Linder got his board back. Instead, I demanded of Billy Roper that Roper simply take his copy of the v-bulletin software, apply it to his White Revolution server, and let the divorce from VNN/TGMNN and WR proceed, each with its compatible membership. It is precisely because of the implosion of VNN/TGMNN, and then phorafags/feebs that OD has been given new life from the WN/CI emigres. Therefore, Texas Dissent's, if any, against the anti-Christian goings-on at VNN/TGMNN, are irrelevant to the matter of Gabbyrelle's demands for censorship on OD. Texas Dissent complains about $tormfront. Doesn't that mean Klunt and Gabbyrelle should be censored from OD, under Gabby's 'logic'?

[QUOTE=Gabbyrelle] Is it because you hate CI so much that you allow this bull to remain, knowing full well it is immoral and it makes CI people look like nuts and scum? Come off it, Gabby. Texas Dissent is not a fan of CI, nor is Okie. They don't care whether Gabby or Klunt make fools and caught strumpets of theysselfs. Why should they? They moved this matter onto this thread and are letting Nature take its course. They might even be giggling at the train wreck and watching the hits accumulate, selling tickets even, for this free circus. Typical for Gabby, not getting her way for censorship, to falsely accuse the neutrals for not siding with her.

Gabby is not Christian Identity. She is nothing more than a stray bitch dog sniffing and pissing on the periphery trying to whine her way into alienation and pariahhood.

[QUOTE=Gabbyrelle] Klaliff is not a friend of mine…as a matter, after things she’s done to me, I would count her more of an enemy … but the truth is the truth, and it is not white, right, or Christian to allow this crap to go on - and that is just what it is: CRAP! So the thieves have fallen out, as thieves inevitably do when it comes time for the division of the spoils.

I've listened in on some of Klunt's jewhoogruppen where Klunt&Kludd&Andy &Niemela have toen each other apart. AndyAnderson being the FBI agent and ZOG-kernal Niemela Nigger-kike being the Finnish jew and talmudic skrewler making fun of Downey's pretentions to being a self-anointed pasturd. In fact, I read their reviews of Downey's "Leaderless Identity" and they found it as idiotic as I did. Three serpents, one feeb, three adoptive, one biological spawn of Satan, each hissing at each other, spewing their venom to which all were immune, a regular serpent's den of sanctimony. I loved it. I saved it for future reference. I directed my Identity friends and followers to subscribe and enjoy as well. I love it when the spawn of Satan fight among theysselfs.

So please, Gabbyrelle, tell us all how Klunt has wronged you. I'll be on jewr side. You wuz ROBBED, 'tis certain. Otherwise why else would you be under Klunt, as Klunt was under the Klan, as Lilith was under Adam! :thumbsup:

[QUOTE=Gabbyrelle] Mental Martin, for the third time, I do not know nor do I care to know Klaliff. She is in no way a friend of mine. Go read some old posts at Stormfront’s Lounge and you will see what I mean. But, Martin, as long as forums are opened to women, there is nothing bad or wrong with women posting… if the forums are closed to women, then that is a whole another matter. Call me 'Marty,' Gabby. All the jews and sundry spawn of Satan do, knowing how much I hate the implication of familiarity with such.

Insofar as where your lies end or begin, I simply do as I would with any known liar. I know some nugget of truth, and I pick, pick, pick at the sore until the liar tells me more nuggets of truth at a time until either they confess, like Ed-the-FiBbIe-Dog confessing that he knew that somebody was a federal informant and still allowed them in, or, like Klunt, they suspend argument directly and have their proxies, like you, Gabbyrelle, do their lying for them.

[url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/tsmc-5.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/tsmc-5.html[/url]

I do know, because I caught you, that you voted for me on a VNN/TGMNN poll. You rightly ought to figure out that since you are a caught liar that I will pump you for information by making guesses as to where your lies end and what little truth you say begins, sieve it out, and try to make some sense of it. I have a decade of interrogation and search skills available in interrogating much smarter than you, Gabby. It's not as if I can apply a pliers to your testicles, aside from the fact you have no testicles, but rather must interrogate you based upon your outbursts and lies. Klunt and Downey have far more Genesis 3:15 sense -- they know that everything they say will be used by me against them. Hence only one letter each concerning like in the Klan under the Grand Dragon, and how awful he was, when most queried said that other than the thing with Klunt being the sexual mascot of the Klan, that he was actually a pretty nice -- as well as generous -- fellow.

You have enough grounding in CI to know, Gabby, how we think about females who have no husband or male authority to stand bond for your behavior or the behavior of other loose and rebellious females who want to live a life of mental and emotional as well as physical whoredumb. Allow some whore to get by with showing her ass, and soon enough it becomes a matter of the whores not only forgetting that they are to remain silent within the Assembly of the House of Israel, but they want to censor White Male speech as part of their attempt to do away with all Christian Masculine Authority. Femnishevikism is a rebellion against YHWH, just as the jews, the spawn of Satan, are a rebellion against YHWH. It is for good reason that YHWH sent the trip hammers of imposing a curse of perpetual subordination against both the insubordinate rebels Eve and Satan in short order within four verses of Genesis Chapter 13: namely 13-16.

Allow the naturally insubordinate 'equality' imposed under threat of a gun from Under Satan's Administreason (U.S.A.) and it is but a moment before those getting this enforced 'e-quality' begin to try to become not equal, but superior, be they females, niggers or homosexuals. The female was better behaved before they got the vote, and finished off America. The nigger could live in peace only when there was segregation and the rightful fear that offenses against the White Man would be punished with retaliation both severe and immediate. Likewise, when caught homosexuals were first not pokerized by the traditional Anglo-Saxon punishment of having a red-hot poker shoved up their scene of criminality, then were granted social 'equality' that now homosexuality is advanced via pubic skrewl edjewcation and the White man punished. Socially things have gotten so bad that a baal-priestess like Gabbyrelle can weave some lies that the administrator and moderator of this ODES board are in some way homosexuals and then claim that I have done so, when that is yet another one of Gabby's lies. Gabby is so far gone that she thinks that her misconduct will induce those she slandered to censor myself for my fighting with her gang of femnishevik baal-priestesses.

[QUOTE=Gabbyrelle] LOL. You know damn well I never said you slandered Texas Dissident’s loved ones… you are three folds worse than any jew, and if you represent dual seedline – it must be evil. You do not fight with God’s armor…you fight with your beloved Satan’s armor. If you really wanted to do God’s will, you would not have stooped to such evilness. God forgive you for what you are doing not only to another man and his beloved wife, but also what you have been doing in His holy Name. Don’t mess with God, Martin… come judgment day, there will be hell to pay . . . . literally[/QUOTE]You come from above slandering Texas Dissent and Okie. It was not myself who introduced Texas Dissent or Okie's loved ones, but rather it was Gabbyrelle in search of what she wanted, namely my censorship. Gabby can't keep her lies straight, as she would rather lie when the truth might serve her better. All of which is the point. Gabby serves Satan by serving only herself.

I have merely repeated what is common knowledge about the Downeys. Nor do the Downeys have anything to say about this matter in their defense because as they have admitted before, everything which they do say will be used against them to further prove the already proven before the tribunal of public opinion. So, let these baal-priestesses do their own pleading as opposed to Gabbyrelle the liar.

Nor do I claim to speak for Dual-Seedline, nor Pastor Gulett, nor 6Killer, nor anyone other than myself. I have said that my motivations were to ensure that the Downeys and critters like Gabbyrelle were confined by public opinion to their $tormfront ghetto, eventually to be removed from there when $tormfront figures out that the Downeys and their sundry spawn of Satan anti-Seedline mamzers are too much of an embarrassment to keep. Since the Truth is against them, it is Gabby and her ilk demanding censorship, whereas myself and my other DSL allies are content to let this matter be open for public debate.

Regarding Gabbyrelle's wanting to do some of her voo-doo doo-doo jew-jew on me for openly making fun of her pretentions and lies, well let me say the same thing that I said to Khazarl Worden(stein) of the South Oregasm Militia years ago. First you need to do some heavy duty chewing on goat pizzle around Purimfest, wherein you jews celebrate victory over White men. Then videotape it. Although in lieu of jewr chewing on goat's pizzle I might accept a hott videotape of Klunt Downey sucking on Klan pizzle during the refreshment period on a Saturday night. Then jump up and down, nekked, repeating the Talmud and/or Kabballah curses against the Evil White Man. And if jew'll do it with some real fire and passion, why, maybe I'll just sicken up and die of laughter. Or maybe not. Of course you can't expect me to keep the news to myself, any more than I did with news of Klunt's didos. In case you haven't noticed, I do have a mean streak.

[url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/kz082999.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/kz082999.html[/url]

If you had any sense, you'd give it up, Gabby. You just don't get it. Everytime you come onto a board with White men on it and whine for Klunt, you immediately antagonize that entire forum. VNN was full of whigger anti-xian punks. It wasn't because they liked me or CI that they turned on you and Klunt. You've fared no better here on Original Dissent, full of soft middle-aged White men, many of them hostile to myself and CI. They'll simply view you and Klunt as some lying evil bitches out to run an anti-White male regime demanding that some White man be censored to suit your own anti-Christian purposes. You'll lose again, of course.

So the only way for you to stop losing would be to simply just shut up and quit while you are behind. That and riding your dustbuster with the vibrating attachments along with Klunt back to your $tormfront Klaven/Klavern/sin-o-gog. Take your little dog Downey with you. jewr not in Kansas anymore, Gabby.

--Martin Lindstedt Malleus Anti-Seedline [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


Gabrielle

2005-02-05 00:08 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]We all know that Martin is a little rough around the edges, but he is our racial kin. The berserker inside sometimes gets the best of him, but his motives are good. He gave a good explanation, as to why he sometimes uses vulgarity. It's his way of pressing the flesh. In other words, people are like lemons, you find out what they are made of by putting pressure on them. And I must add that Martin has done a fine job of discovering what you, klaliff, & kludd really are. My Sweet. I will also add that we racial kinsmen are a patrilineal society. It isn't always good to listen to vulgarity coming from a man-but sometimes necessary. However it is very unbecoming to hear it frrom a woman. As some of the Disney video ditties would say it makes one question your upbringing.:caiphas:[/QUOTE]

Vulgarity?! You speak to me of vulgarity as you make excuses for an evil, evil man who attacks another man’s wife.


Okiereddust

2005-02-05 00:12 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]That and riding your dustbuster with the vibrating attachments along with Klunt back to your $tormfront Klaven/Klavern/sin-o-gog.

.........The Kludd/KlhumperofKlunt run off with the Klan's Klailiff/Klunt several years ago......... [/QUOTE]Must say Martin, a little rude and crude for most people, but you do have a way with words. You never considered a career in country music did you? :lol:


Sertorius

2005-02-05 00:14 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sertorius]Gee, Gabrielle, I didn't know you are/were a member of VNN? What would the Bushbots say?[/QUOTE]

And Stormfront too!


Gabrielle

2005-02-05 00:20 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Must say Martin, a little rude and crude for most people, but you do have a way with words. You never considered a career in country music did you? :lol:[/QUOTE]

Not at all, considering it doesn't bother you ‘good holy traditional men’ that some low life rat attacks another man’s wife. :rolleyes:


Gabrielle

2005-02-05 00:21 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sertorius]And Stormfront too![/QUOTE]

You could ask him, Clever Hans.


6KILLER

2005-02-05 00:36 | User Profile

I'll do you one better Gabby. Kludd better keep a low profile, because if I or Pastor Gulett, see him at any meetings, we will probably mop the floor with him. Because of his failure to remove his testicles from the back of klaliff's throat and rein in the Ho'.:whlch: [QUOTE=Gabrielle]Not at all, considering it doesn't bother you ‘good holy traditional men’ that some low life rat attacks another man’s wife. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-05 00:44 | User Profile

There we go again with the name calling Gabby. I'll say again it is unbecoming of Christian women to use such words.:thumbsup: [QUOTE=Gabrielle]Not at all, considering it doesn't bother you ‘good holy traditional men’ that some low life rat attacks another man’s wife. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-05 00:50 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sertorius]Gee, Gabrielle, I didn't know you are/were a member of VNN? What would the Bushbots say?[/QUOTE]Gabby was on VNN, a regular there lambasting the whigger anti-xian punks. Then she heard me giving Klunt the wherefore, and immediately put on the crippled drama-quean act. Along with Klunt who joined. Then, being themselves they ended up getting shot at by everyone who hated fake Christian sanctimony, i.e., everyone. I didn't even have to put up much of a butt chewing on Gabby and Klunt.

Once it became clear to Gabby and Klunt that not only wouldn't I be censored, but that they wouldn't be censored either, merely screamed at and made fun of by 90% of VNN, Klunt dropped. Gabbyrelle claimed that she dropped, but as usual she lied. She didn't drop, merely lurked.

When Billy Roper tried his coup at VNN, it was the Identity people, then the Order Odinists who were Roper's shock troops for the coup. Roper declared defeat and left, and almost all of the Roper's bunch, except for three of them, left. I remained behind to snipe, but got banned. In any case, Gabbyrelle decided to return to vote for myself on the VNN/TGMNN poll, "Who is VNN's Dumbest Poster?" I tied with Dog Martin, the jew-day-o buttlicker of Traitor Glenn Miller.

Gabbyrelle loves her little digs, but doesn't like being caught in one of her lies. Tell Sertorius whether or not what I'm saying is essentially true or not, Gabby. Of course I've got a reputation for meanness, but not for lying, Gabby, whereas you are nothing but a poison mean lying femnishevik.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]

[url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=2900"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=2900[/url]

My Farewell...


I have, after some deliberation, concluded to no longer post at this forum; while I thank Mr. Linder for the privilege which I have partaken of in the past, I am disgusted with the filth, slander, gossip, and general stupidity and inane babbling that takes place here (see DRANTICHRISTs signature, Martin Lindstedts posts, etc.).

This forum was never known for a large amount of wit or mental prowess, but it has degenerated even further – to the point that I cannot allow myself to continue posting here. I am well aware of what certain posters will say concerning my departure (‘can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen,’ etc.), but I care not – truth be told, I have better things to do than waste my time here…like fishing in puddles or changing new guitar strings… To those of you worth a decent goodbye – the nice, normal people who try to converse and discuss, I say, “Adios.” To the rest of you – T.Garrett, Gott, DRANTICRHIST, Martin Lindstedt, etc. … there’s not much to say, except “Enjoy yourselves, fellas…and I’m sure glad I’m not going to be in your shoes…” To Mr. Linder, thank you again. And, to those concerned with ‘getting the last word in’ (think: T.Garrett…), go for it…I won’t be responding.

Gabby March 13, 2004

============

Another link:

[url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=32533#post32533"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=32533#post32533[/url]

[url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=32159#post32159"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=32159#post32159[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-05 00:56 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Must say Martin, a little rude and crude for most people, but you do have a way with words. You never considered a career in country music did you? :lol:[/QUOTE]jewr cheeee-ting Klunt, Swill tell on joooooooooo! Yore lying lies, Will make jew bluuuuuuuu.

Sorry, that's about as much Hank as I can crank. :rockon:

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


Sertorius

2005-02-05 00:57 | User Profile

Gabrielle,

You do get around!


6KILLER

2005-02-05 01:03 | User Profile

Yeah! Kind of like a stray dog that no one wants.:yawn: [QUOTE=Sertorius]Gabrielle,

You do get around![/QUOTE]


6KILLER

2005-02-05 01:06 | User Profile

Not bad Martin,:caiphas: and oh! so true![QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]jewr cheeee-ting Klunt, Swill tell on joooooooooo! Yore lying lies, Will make jew bluuuuuuuu.

Sorry, that's about as much Hank as I can crank. :rockon:

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE]


wild_bill

2005-02-05 01:06 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]I would say that you have chosen your side based upon who you are. Obviously you are on the side of the Downeys.

I'm not choosing any side. I have had so many disagreements with the Downeys I can't keep track of them. And I ZERO interest in either one seedline or two seedline, since Identity is nothing but heretical judaizing nonsense anyway. So you people can argue about it until you're completely exhausted.

I'm not wasting any more time talking to you either, since I think your main interest is arguing with anyone you can find! LOL. I can see why you're booted from so many message boards.

You people continue with your bickering, I'm through.


Okiereddust

2005-02-05 01:10 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]jewr cheeee-ting Klunt, Swill tell on joooooooooo! Yore lying lies, Will make jew bluuuuuuuu.

Sorry, that's about as much Hank as I can crank. :rockon:

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE]Hey, a Panzerfaust "hatecore" classic! (or maybe a country hatecore spinoff label)Have you contacted Anthony Pierpoint? Don't tell me, he turned you down, and you knew why :alucard: but couldn't prove it. :biggrin:


Rapid Roy

2005-02-05 01:31 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]But this is fine... [url="http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=99024&postcount=1"]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=99024&postcount=1[/url][/QUOTE] I didn't say it was fine. I said don't be a pot and call the kettle black. Your credibility is shot. You post all of this stuff about mercy, Christian love and Jesus, condemning Mr Lindstedt out of one breath because he uses vulgarities and then you do the same thing ! In medical terms that sort of behavior is refered to as Psychotic. Seriously !

psy·cho·sis

n. pl. psy·cho·ses (-s[img]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/emacr.gif[/img]z)

’’
A severe mental disorder, with or without organic damage, characterized by [u]derangement of personality[/u] and [u]loss of contact with reality and causing deterioration of normal social functioning.[/u]

MartinLindstedt

2005-02-05 01:39 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Not at all, considering it doesn't bother you ‘good holy traditional men’ that some low life rat attacks another man’s wife. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]Merely pointing out that she used to be everyone's 'wife' at one time. Nor are the 'good holy traditional men' here on ODES going to join a jewsade to make the whirrrld safe for femnishevikism by lesboskank. :nerd:

Look, I really don't much care which lies you are going to tell. If you are Klunt's friend, simply drop the matter. You are not helping Klunt/Sapphira Downey by demanding something you are not going to get -- my banishment for bringing up old history. Klunt and Downey can't fight for themselves because the more they say, the worse it gets for them. And you are making a complete jackass out of both Klunt and yourself.

I've brought up the VNN threads. Just as on VNN, when you got caught, you didn't have any choice but to give up seeking censorship to trying to defend yourself, to eventually running off to where you were safer. Just like last March, nearly a year ago, what ends up happening is that I end up saying the exact same thing about you and the Downeys and you end up lying until you have no choice but to run back to $tormfront. If in this case, Klunt has kicked you off $tormfront, then you might as well make your stay here at OD easier by simply dropping the matter before you lose all credibility.

You see, like I told Mild Bill, there simply is no way to 'win' any argument with a Dual-Seedliner. We are right and anyone who says different is either wrong or a spawn of Satan. It really doesn't matter if you were as smart as me arguing against DSL and I was as dumb as you, Gabby, in arguing for DSL. Any fighting faith is far more a matter of zeal and not that of argumentation. Absolute obedience, not promiscuous love, is the first duty of a Christian.

So why not give it a rest, Gabby? Go find you a Christian Israelite man if you don't got one, shut your mouth and spread your legs for him and nine months later present him with something more useful, like a White kid, than anything you've ever done before. If you do have some PWD -- pussy whupped dolt -- like Downey, let him stop being something he ain't, like a pastor and go back to something he is good at, like graphics design. Stop making him an object of pity and ridicule before other White men. Act like a White woman is supposed to act and stand by your man, not cut his nuts to advance your own femnishevik vanity and agenda.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-05 01:48 | User Profile

[QUOTE=wild_bill]I'm not choosing any side. I have had so many disagreements with the Downeys I can't keep track of them. And I ZERO interest in either one seedline or two seedline, since Identity is nothing but heretical judaizing nonsense anyway. So you people can argue about it until you're completely exhausted. If above is true, and you have no interest in CI, then what is the reason for quarreling with the Downeys? My motivations for fighting with them have been stated and are obvious. Yours don't bear close scrutiny.

[QUOTE=wild_bill] I'm not wasting any more time talking to you either, since I think your main interest is arguing with anyone you can find! LOL. I can see why you're booted from so many message boards.

You people continue with your bickering, I'm through.[/QUOTE]There are almost 10 times or more lurkers for every single poster. The posters who matter are the same for leadership in Whites -- one in twenty. What makes for an interesting forum isn't everyone speaking the same thing, but rather the sometimes hostile interaction between the posters who matter. But, if you wish, declare victory and pull out.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-05 01:52 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Hey, a Panzerfaust "hatecore" classic! (or maybe a country hatecore spinoff label)Have you contacted Anthony Pierpoint? Don't tell me, he turned you down, and you knew why :alucard: but couldn't prove it. :biggrin:[/QUOTE]OK, I won't tell you that.

Fighting with net-nazis and mini-fuerhers outside Identity core interests is a sure way to get in trouble over nothing.

--Martin Lindstedt


Okiereddust

2005-02-05 02:01 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]OK, I won't tell you that.

Fighting with net-nazis and mini-fuerhers outside Identity core interests is a sure way to get in trouble over nothing.

--Martin Lindstedt[/QUOTE]But [B]baby,[/B] [B]I'd[/B] (or maybe Anthony. or whoever's taking his place )[B]make you a star![/B]:biggrin:

(Instead of just relying on your prowess as numero uno internet Klunt stalker.)


Gabrielle

2005-02-05 02:59 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sertorius]Gabrielle,

You do get around![/QUOTE]

You are so clever, Hans. :rolleyes:


Gabrielle

2005-02-05 03:03 | User Profile

wild bill is right, you people are not worth arguing with.

It is no wonder why people hate Christianity and Christians... God is the one I feel sorry for.


Ponce

2005-02-05 03:03 | User Profile

You guys should fight those who deserve to be fought and not among yourselves.

Gabrielle? we know that you are a pro Bush and therefore a Pro Jew so please knock it off, you are fooling no one.


6KILLER

2005-02-05 03:07 | User Profile

Her activity, if true make her a concubine at the best, and possibly a whore. I would like to think she enjoyed it, but most probable, it was the power over men that she enjoyed most. Deb isn't a bad looking ol' heifer, but age is beginning to show. If she'd dispense with the birth control and step up to the calling of Aryan motherhood, by having baby Downey's ,I could probably learn to ignore her. But she's not content to be on her back side, under kludd, working up. She somehow thinks it her birthright to meddle in the affairs of men and I have a problem with that.:pimp: [QUOTE=Gabrielle]Not at all, considering it doesn't bother you ‘good holy traditional men’ that some low life rat attacks another man’s wife. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]


Gabrielle

2005-02-05 03:09 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]You guys should fight those who deserve to be fought and not among yourselves.

Gabrielle? we know that you are a pro Bush and therefore a Pro Jew so please knock it off, you are fooling no one.[/QUOTE]

Whatever you say, Ponce, if it makes you feel better. You are another one who is not worth arguing with.


6KILLER

2005-02-05 03:10 | User Profile

So why are you arguing?:yawn: [QUOTE=Gabrielle]wild bill is right, you people are not worth arguing with.

It is no wonder why people hate Christianity and Christians... God is the one I feel sorry for.[/QUOTE]


Faust

2005-02-05 03:13 | User Profile

Is there some point to all this? :blink: :wacko:


6KILLER

2005-02-05 03:19 | User Profile

OH YEAH! I don't know where you been, but klunt, klunt-humper, and Gabby have been a major thorn in the side of hardcore DSL-believers, since they were banned off the old Aryan Nations Forum.:thumbsup: :caiphas: [QUOTE=Faust]Is there some point to all this? :blink: :wacko:[/QUOTE]


Sertorius

2005-02-05 03:21 | User Profile

Gabrielle,

When I was younger I used to watch rerun of the old Perry Mason series starring Raymond Burr. This thread reminds me of that show. It appears that ole Martin here has flushed you out into the open with his exposure of your record. I can't say I blame you for being upset about this thread. It looks like you have been disingenous to me. :lol:


Okiereddust

2005-02-05 03:43 | User Profile

[QUOTE=6KILLER]OH YEAH! I don't know where you been, but klunt, klunt-humper, and Gabby have been a major thorn in the side of hardcore DSL-believers, since they were banned off the old Aryan Nations Forum.:thumbsup: :caiphas:[/QUOTE]I don't know for sure where you've been either, but practically everyone here is by now certain its someplace they're glad they weren't, or at least someplace you didn't enliven with your presence.

You could have something to say and some points to make, but if you can't make it without never ending and unneeded personal references and attacks, it, and you, aren't worth listening to. I'd say its time to either move on or move on.


Rapid Roy

2005-02-05 03:53 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]OK, I won't tell you that. Fighting with net-nazis and mini-fuerhers outside Identity core interests is a sure way to get in trouble over nothing.
--Martin Lindstedt[/QUOTE] This has been made obvious by the suspension of 6killer.


Okiereddust

2005-02-05 04:49 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]If above is true, and you have no interest in CI, then what is the reason for quarreling with the Downeys? My motivations for fighting with them have been stated and are obvious. Yours don't bear close scrutiny. [/QUOTE]If you CI's really feel this deeply about this matter don't you think there are more proper ways, especially for those I would think would claim to be men of honor, than ghetto talk over the internet?

[URL=http://www.cbc2.org/faculty/dabbott/Duello1.html]Code Duello[/URL]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-05 05:02 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]wild bill is right, you people are not worth arguing with.

It is no wonder why people hate Christianity and Christians... God is the one I feel sorry for.[/QUOTE]So God needs Gabbyrelle to feel sorry for Him.

I can see it now. YHWH forming Gabbyrelle from Lilith's rib. Telling Gabby that her job now is to feel sorry for YHWH.

Why, Gabby, do you think you are despised (which is different from being feared) by most of Christian Identity, most White men, about everyone coming in contact with you? Let me give you a hint: It's because of your willful self-worship and lack of scruples and good sense.

How dare you, other than because you are extremely stupid, claim that:

"God is the one I feel sorry for."

You have put yourself above God. God is not some little dog with its little paw run over that you found in the ditch and decided to bring back home to nurse to good health. And in return God is not some little dog content with whatever dog-yummy you toss Him that you can sic on us awful White men for not having any respect for yourself.

Of course, to many of us this is blasphemy. And the only reason that I can explain it, and why you are so stupid enough to say this is because you are a godless, extremely stupid whigger female. Klunt/Sapphira has the exact same attitude, several times I've suspected that you are one and the same, but not even Klunt is this stupid.

Look. You need to calm down and behave yourself. You seem caught up in the madness of this thread. You are not going to get any White men censored permanently. You think you can get White men so angry that they will get themselves suspended chasing you when you cause enough trouble that they lose their temper. But this won't be permanent. After all, what is the normal Christian Israelite Law would be that you would be the one banished permanently for your revelation as exactly where God stands in your life -- as less than a stray dog to be trained to attack White men on your command.

Note to Okie: I see that 6Killer has been suspended for going over a line in his dislike for Gabby. Hmmmm. What is worse, some Christian Identity partisan losing his temper over the behavior of some female claiming to be one of us -- who isn't? Or some female who doesn't belong in our Congregation -- and probably not yours as well -- simple-mindedly stating that to her God is nothing more than servant of hers that she feels 'sorry for'? 6Killer's 'mistake,' if mistake it was, was in reacting angrily to some female not knowing her place, committing a blasphemy which would carry a death penalty amongst our People who she has proven that she has no real place, or liking, amongst.

You have tempted me to say something that I could have been banned over if it wasn't for what you considered the cleverness of my response, i.e. my little pseudo-Hank ditty. So let me suggest a cooling off period. If this thread is to be treated as a hockey game, I suggest 6Killer be taken off suspension, that Gabbyrelle be placed in his spot in the penalty booth, and that this thread be closed for a cooling off period of 12 hours, when everyone has had a chance to cool off a bit. I want my partisans to be snapping at the Downeys and Gabby, and not feeling aggrieved at the moderators of ODES, as at present it seems that we have defeated any permanent censorship of DSL activists. We've won the battle, now let's win the war.

I am not calling for the censorship of anyone, not Gabby, not Klunt, certainly not Downey who dares say nothing anyway. I think the lines have pretty well been drawn, and in the interests of fairness, let's all think about what has been said, often truthfully in anger, and reopen this thread at noon tomorrow. Perhaps some might wish to reconsider what they said, or at the least, look at what was said with a sense of perspective. By closing this thread to all for a limited period, no sides need be taken by the ODES management.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


MartinLindstedt

2005-02-05 05:18 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Okiereddust]If you CI's really feel this deeply about this matter don't you think there are more proper ways, especially for those I would think would claim to be men of honor, than ghetto talk over the internet?

[url="http://www.cbc2.org/faculty/dabbott/Duello1.html"]Code Duello[/url][/QUOTE]You make the mistake that us DSLers view the Downeys and Gabbyrelle as being Identity.

This thread took a turn calling for censorship of DSL. The fighting for this day ended up in a DSL partisan being suspended by yourself. But you yourself admit that this is an item of importance to us, with levels of partisan passion which are seldom seen here on the Original Dissent Embalming Society (ODES). You cannot understand religious fanaticism because much of the life in you is dead -- hence needing embalming. It is this religious fanaticism which makes us Dual-Seedliners the default whenever Christian Identity is thought of, and why we are so overrepresented in the Revolutionary Resistance. When it comes down to it, we simply can't be reasoned with. That's why we will win is because we are fanatics. Looking at the heraldry of DSLers, there is always both a crown and a sword for our Churches. That's because we will gain our Crwon by using our Sword.

But what the Downeys and Gabbyrelle did was pretty much finish them off as a force to be reckoned with. Thanks to their past behavior, these fake anti-Seedliners are being confined to their ghettos. I think this day's fighting has taken us over the top, and we hold the field, and in the interests of fairness, Okie, I think you should release 6Killer from the penalty box and put Gabby in it and freeze this thread until noon tomorrow, CST.

I don't want us DSLers looking upon you as an enemy, not if we are here at ODES. Our enemies need to be looked upon as enemies, which is why the ferocity of the attack. The Downeys and Gabbyrelle will either avoid further fighting or evacuate to their $tormfront ghetto absent censorship of us DSLers. So we won today, and it wasn't by being nice either.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]


Okiereddust

2005-02-05 05:20 | User Profile

[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt] So let me suggest a cooling off period. If this thread is to be treated as a hockey game, I suggest 6Killer be taken off suspension, that Gabbyrelle be placed in his spot in the penalty booth, and that this thread be closed for a cooling off period of 12 hours, when everyone has had a chance to cool off a bit. I want my partisans to be snapping at the Downeys and Gabby, and not feeling aggrieved at the moderators of ODES, as at present it seems that we have defeated any permanent censorship of DSL activists. We've won the battle, now let's win the war.

I am not calling for the censorship of anyone, not Gabby, not Klunt, certainly not Downey who dares say nothing anyway. I think the lines have pretty well been drawn, and in the interests of fairness, let's all think about what has been said, often truthfully in anger, and reopen this thread at noon tomorrow. Perhaps some might wish to reconsider what they said, or at the least, look at what was said with a sense of perspective. By closing this thread to all for a limited period, no sides need be taken by the ODES management.

--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE]Well basically you guys are only posting on this thread anyway, so its not particularly important whose suspended or not immediately. 6Killer can e-mail if he like about his suspension - its really the same thing I've complained about multiple times, so its not like a surprise. If I was paid a referree's salary I might be able to monitor guys who constantly want to push on and often way over the edge, but I'm not, so I see no need to rush things until I have assurances that people intend to respect at least the rules of the board somewhat if not each other.

At the risk of people saying you're getting the last word - I'll implement your suggestion. Hasta Manana.