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Thread ID: 16537 | Posts: 162 | Started: 2005-02-02
2005-02-02 00:32 | User Profile
Got this a few moments ago. Apparently he done did it again, again. The circus rolls on....
[QUOTE]The phora is now officially closed [For real this time]
Reason: You were all trolls[/QUOTE]
2005-02-02 00:39 | User Profile
What a heck?
Fade is starting to look silly.
Petr
2005-02-02 00:53 | User Profile
Another secret plan to flush out traitors!
Additionally, Fade pulled the site down completely-most likely, though, he still owns the webspace until the end of this month.
2005-02-02 00:57 | User Profile
FadetheButcher is a mentally disturbed little twit who grew up in the lap of luxury, was lavished with attention by his doting parents and Negro servants, and spent his days listening to his Daddy's old records and trying on his Mommy's old underwear...it makes him feel sick at heart that the cyberspace "masses" do not recognize his genius and treat him with the deference and respect that he so richly deserves.
2005-02-02 01:05 | User Profile
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=99112#post99112[/url]
2005-02-02 01:09 | User Profile
At first I thought he'd sent this odd message to me specifically. A few minutes later it dawned on me he'd most likely gang-mailed the entire membership, old and new, via vBulletin.
What a curious fellow this Fade is. I spied a new thread where all and sundry waxed lyrically over the postmoralist joys of AMERICAN PSYCHO, Weikel excluded. In a bizarre way I think this rechanneling of Patrick Bateman might have triggered this latest balcony scene.
What's next for Gaius Caligula? We'll have to tune in to next week's episode to find out. The Phora - phun phor the whole phamily. The Manson Phamily.
2005-02-02 01:10 | User Profile
I wonder if there's any connection between this and TNP going down a couple of days ago
vBulletin exploit?
Connection or not, it's very unhealthy that so many online discussion forums depend on this software
2005-02-02 01:17 | User Profile
The new Official Version at NP:
[QUOTE]I don't know what is going on. I was replying to a thread started by Weikel when I noticed an email alert on Yahoo IM! saying my password had been changed. So I logged into the Admin CP, changed the password, and went about continuing to reply to the thread. Then I started to get bombarded by emails saying that The Phora is closed for good. When I exited out of the thread, everything was gone. Someone had apparently changed my password, logged into the Admincp, deleted everything and sent out a mass email. A few minutes later they deleted the entire website. I was on Yahoo IM at the time and chatted with Draco and Loki for a few minutes about all of it. Now I am locked out of my Yahoo account and my MSN account. I have no idea if any of my other passwords have been changed, who did this, or how they did it. The email that was sent out said something about trolls. [B]It looks like someone is pissed off about being banned and hacked the website in anger[/B].[/QUOTE]
Keep dreaming, Fade. I [I]responded [/I] to that email, assuming it was legit; you're no doubt well aware of what I said in it.
2005-02-02 01:34 | User Profile
Enough of this BS. Heres the truth.
The phora in recent days reached a point were it had to come to a natural ending.
See you all around
2005-02-02 01:35 | User Profile
It's probably bullshit. I don't trust that guy further than I can kick him. He has a long history of pulling stunts and lying.
I bet he nixed the board himself. :yawn:
2005-02-02 01:36 | User Profile
Someone check his IP...
2005-02-02 01:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=FadeTheButcher]Enough of this BS. Heres the truth.
The phora in recent days reached a point were it had to come to a natural ending.
See you all around[/QUOTE]
Is it the real Fade, or the impostor? I'm reminded of that Star Trek episode where Spock had to choose which one was the real Captain Kirk.
2005-02-02 01:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=FadeTheButcher]Enough of this BS. Heres the truth.
The phora in recent days reached a point were it had to come to a natural ending.
See you all around[/QUOTE]
That's not actually Fade.
Neither is the guy on Yahoo Chat.
2005-02-02 01:41 | User Profile
Pretty sharp.
2005-02-02 02:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=FadeTheButcher]Enough of this BS. Heres the truth.
The phora in recent days reached a point were it had to come to a natural ending.
[/QUOTE]
Nary a truer thing was ever said.
2005-02-02 02:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=2600]That's not actually Fade.
Neither is the guy on Yahoo Chat.[/QUOTE]Oh dear, this is not a real easy one to do, and I'm not very good experienced at it. Without getting into exact details, it appears different than what Fade ever used in the past, but as he's used at least several IP's in the past, it's hard to tell. It unlike the others though is a proxy IP, which is probably significant.
But how he could get into [B]our [/B] board ? Does Fade use the same password? (or other less comforting answers :ph34r:) I'll have to let better cyber-sleuth's like Tex answer questions like that.
2005-02-02 02:16 | User Profile
The impostor has also hijacked Fade's NP account
So either
a) Someone stole all his passwords b) vB exploit
I would advise admins here to back up their data asap
2005-02-02 02:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE]The phora in recent days reached a point were it had to come to a natural ending. [/QUOTE]
The real Fade would spell it "where".
Didn't this occur to the Phora in the past? And what is [I]vb exploit[/I], exactly?
2005-02-02 02:23 | User Profile
Hey all, long time no see for a lot of you.
Not able to get ahold of him anywhere yet.
I really don't think this is him. The TNP post was fishy too.
2005-02-02 02:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]The real Fade would spell it "where".
Didn't this occur to the Phora in the past? And what is [I]vb exploit[/I], exactly?[/QUOTE]
Just that-a glitch in the code where one can [I]exploit[/I] the vBulletin software (which is what the Phora is hosted on, as is OD, as are most large message boards). However, the only way to rip someone else's password is, I believe, thru the use of a Java applet-and the Phora didn't allow embedded Java applets (nor do most message boards, for that very reason).
Apparently (or so I heard) someone besides the admin team of Stan, Robinder and Loki was accidently given backdoor admin access. I think THAT is the reason for this, rather than a case of outright hacking.
Despite being an engineering major, I'll admit that I don't much about computers, so take this all as you will.
Landser, JAT, Tex or neo-classical are probably the ones to ask.
2005-02-02 02:33 | User Profile
Never count out ...and I know Fade will appreciate this...[I]the j00z[/I].
But one name comes to mind: that knucklehead and self-described 'genius', Desaix deWhatsisface. In the only 'moderating' I ever actually moderated there, I removed some giant image-attachments he'd included and he threatened doing something like this; a few days later Fade banned him outright (as bannings go, not a bad one, really).
I wrote him off as a nut, but maybe he's got some hacking juju up his sleeve.
2005-02-02 02:34 | User Profile
We deleted the backdoor access group that someone was exploiting a while ago.
2005-02-02 02:39 | User Profile
What's shakin', baby?
Kinda creepy. Is the Fade signed in up there the real Fade or the false Fade? [I]Feel like I'm in a Philip Dick story heah![/I]
2005-02-02 02:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]
Kinda creepy. Is the Fade signed in up there the real Fade or the false Fade? Feel like I'm in a Philip Dick story heah![/QUOTE] It doesn't matter...like they say in the Southland, "the boy ain't right".
Funny u mention Mr. Dick...I just finished reading "The Man in the high Castle" yesterday.
2005-02-02 02:42 | User Profile
Hey dude!
I love a mystery. If this is a fake Fade, which I think it is, he could always register a new yahoo account to let us know.
However, if he's anything like me, he'll be out for a few minutes breaking things first.
2005-02-02 02:48 | User Profile
It's NOT HIM, confirmed. Talking to him now.
2005-02-02 03:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Never count out ...and I know Fade will appreciate this...the j00z.
But one name comes to mind: that knucklehead and self-described 'genius', Desaix deWhatsisface. In the only 'moderating' I ever actually moderated there, I removed some giant image-attachments he'd included and he threatened doing something like this; a few days later Fade banned him outright (as bannings go, not a bad one, really).
I wrote him off as a nut, but maybe he's got some hacking juju up his sleeve.[/QUOTE] It went something like this:
"Hmm, some MOD edited my post and is looking to get this site pwned"...
I didn't think he was banned, though.
2005-02-02 03:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]What a heck?
Fade is starting to look silly.[/QUOTE]
Starting to? And yes, I also got the "you were all trolls" email. FlaketheFake is turning himself into a parody of whomever it was he wanted us to imagine he was....its almost sad.
2005-02-02 03:04 | User Profile
Fade didn't do this.
2005-02-02 03:07 | User Profile
Weikel did it. No, Raina. No, banned trolls.
2005-02-02 03:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]Fade didn't do this.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps not, but his initial taking down of the site and his baning of half the regular posters (including 75% of the interesting ones), was more than enough for moi. Credibility factor: zero.
2005-02-02 03:17 | User Profile
Whatever your opinions on him personally, he didn't do this.
2005-02-02 03:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]Whatever your opinions on him personally, he didn't do this.[/QUOTE]
Because he said so?
Ok then.
2005-02-02 03:32 | User Profile
I go on a lot more than just "I didn't do it."
2005-02-02 03:33 | User Profile
Now this is odd?
:eek: :wacko: :rolleyes:
2005-02-02 03:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]Whatever your opinions on him personally, he didn't do this.[/QUOTE]Golly, this is like prying questions from a pledge after a date.
Tell us what happened! (or at least what you know)And [U]details[/U], [U]details[/U]!
2005-02-02 03:35 | User Profile
It doesn't sound like him. But who knows/cares by this point?
2005-02-02 03:41 | User Profile
Well, I'm in a long, distraught IM chat right now. There are many details and I'm definitely making my conclusion on a hell of a lot more than "I didn't do it."
2005-02-02 03:49 | User Profile
E,
Does Fade suspect anyone? Cut and paste.
2005-02-02 03:50 | User Profile
I'm not going to cut/paste private conversations, but he is definitely trying to figure out who did this. He's contacted the host and waiting for a response.
2005-02-02 04:02 | User Profile
Probably Raina's employers.
2005-02-02 04:03 | User Profile
Does he have any suspicions?
Were there any arguments going on when the plug was pulled?
Someone send for the witch-finder! :tongue:
2005-02-02 04:07 | User Profile
Of course he has suspicions. He does have a little to go on, based on which accounts were hacked into and which were not.
2005-02-02 04:34 | User Profile
Whatever is to blame for this, I [B]strongly[/B] advise the admins here to [URL=http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=800224]upgrade to 3.0.6[/URL] ASAP
Someone tell Loki too, since he's also running the old version
2005-02-02 04:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]Perhaps not, but his initial taking down of the site and his baning of half the regular posters (including 75% of the interesting ones), was more than enough for moi. Credibility factor: zero.[/QUOTE]
To Fade's credit, I wasn't banned at The Phora [me and Fade don't exactly see eye-to-eye on a lot of issues].
2005-02-02 04:48 | User Profile
Good news for OD, if not Fade: He had the same password for many things, so it's unlikely that OD has been hacked into.
2005-02-02 05:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]Good news for OD, if not Fade: He had the same password for many things, so it's unlikely that OD has been hacked into.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it Edana.
2005-02-02 05:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]Probably Raina's employers.[/QUOTE] They must be afraid of Fade showing the way for white mainstream America.
2005-02-02 06:28 | User Profile
After a couple of quick IP traces, in my opinion Fade is yanking some folks' chains. I suspect he wanted to tank his board, but do it in a manner where it appeared like he got hacked, thus avoiding personal culpability. To give the drama some poetic charm, he even used an israeli proxy for his 'follow-up' message here. Having no opinion on his taking down his site, I gotta admit the israeli proxy is a nice touch. I seem to recall...what was it last time some months ago? Islamic jihadist hackers or some such?
Pretty smooth, Fade. :thumbsup:
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2005-02-02 06:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mmartins]Whatever is to blame for this, I [B]strongly[/B] advise the admins here to [URL=http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=800224]upgrade to 3.0.6[/URL] ASAP
Someone tell Loki too, since he's also running the old version[/QUOTE]
Thanks, mm. My license to upgrade has long expired, but I am up to date on all the security patches. Plus I do regular backups. I'm sure it's not completely fool proof, but I think it's the best one can do and I am confident in the vbulletin team. At least much more so than any of the other forum software out there on the market.
2005-02-02 06:38 | User Profile
I should add in case anyone here is concerned, I would never reveal any ip address to anyone. But this being a publicly available proxy for anyone's use I don't think it matters in this case. It's really no different than someone using the cloak or anonymizer software.
2005-02-02 07:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]I'm not going to cut/paste private conversations, but he is definitely trying to figure out who did this. He's contacted the host and waiting for a response.[/QUOTE]I just got back 40 minutes ago and had to take some wood in and cover up the woodpiles because it is supposed to snow this am. I hit the refresh button on the last -- and first -- response since FakeTheFlake unbanned me -- even not confining me to Fag's jewlag. The time was 4:54 p.m. and ArchAnus and Prince responded. However, when I tried to hit other threads, I got a 404 error. So I went here to ODES, where my fellow refugees could gloat and keep me informed.
In my 4:54 p.m. response I asked that Ill Fagno, probable jew, be reinstated:
=========================
SHOULD LINDSTEDT BE UNBANNED?
Bring back Ill Fagno, probable jew.
Quote:
| Originally Posted by **jelly donut** *If trash like Lindstedt is allowed back, then Il Ragno etc should get an apology( I think Edana should get one anyway...). Its not as if Lindstedt didn't talk shit about the forum either.* |
By all means, I agree with Jelly Donut. FakeTheFlake should allow the Ill Fagno, suspected jew, back here on phorafags/feebs. Simply unban Ill Fagno. He shouldn't have to kiss FakeTheFlake's ass in order to have a chance to bite a big hunk out, any more than I did.
I voted "It doesn't matter" on the poll because it is never a policy of a White man to beg dygenic phorafag/feeb offal like whiggers, jews, and mamzers needing extermination for anything which is a privilege of the White man by birthright.
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
P.S. Thanks for keeping my 'entertaining' responses at the Garbage Dump. I take it I'm allowed full access to phorafags/feebs since FaketheFlake wants to hold on to his tantrum's tenents that there is no longer any need for an Oafishul Opposition Forum here in Greater PhoraFaggery/Feebery? --M.L.
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You see, FakeTheFlake figgrd out that 'Lindstedt can't help himself' (Genesis 3:15 and all that), so I got a pass, wherein Ill Fagno, probable jew, was supposed to know better. I thought it was hilarious. Dranus, ArchAnus, and the rest of the whigger/jew/mamzer feebs like to have had a cow. You see, to FakeTheFlake, I'm merely an entertaining stupid crazy mean redneck whereas Ill Fagno is an arrogant sphincter-void dirty jew looking down on its mark-of-Cain hooked snout being deliberately mean to some adolescent emotionally challenged geeky whigger rich kid, i.e. Fake.
So I doubt that FakeTheFlake auto-castrated hisself, as his phorafaggery/feebery was the greatest thing to pull on since Fake wore out his wee pud pulling on it to death. Phorafags/feebs was Fake's pride&joy, given that his anatomy turned out to be such a disappointment. When I was Fake's age, I had different interests, although when I was in the ZOGArmy there wasn't no Internet and only AppleII or Atari computers with 16K of memory, if that.
See, Ill Fagno. I stuck up for you. That's the second time today. The first time I was PMed by someone who will remain anonymous and told that you eat sh*t sandwiches. I told him that as far as I knew, you didn't like bread like us goyim, but bagels and matzo-balls made from the blood of little blond, blue-eyed Christian babies that you jews murder around Passover. See, I stuck up for jew, kinda, Ill Fagno.
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-02 07:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]After a couple of quick IP traces, in my opinion Fade is yanking some folks' chains. I suspect he wanted to tank his board, but do it in a manner where it appeared like he got hacked, thus avoiding personal culpability. To give the drama some poetic charm, he even used an israeli proxy for his 'follow-up' message here. Having no opinion on his taking down his site, I gotta admit the israeli proxy is a nice touch. I seem to recall...what was it last time some months ago? Islamic jihadist hackers or some such?
Pretty smooth, Fade. :thumbsup: Could happen, especially since it concerns FakeTheFlake. He let me back on phorafags/feebs. And then everyone, including myself, was agitating to bring back Ill Fagno. There were a few of his smarter fellow whiggers saying that Fake had already gone too far to turn back now, and that if Fake brought back Lindstedt, then EVERYONE else would have to be brought back, and that restoration of the status quo antebellum would have the sole appearance of making Fake look like a real Flake.
So now Edana is maybe covering up for Fake. Or maybe Fake is being hacked. Who knows. Those who do care are gloating.
Fake is like the little kike who cried 'Wolfe.' Sooner or later some 'Wolfes' made house calls and ate the little kike and all of itz sheeple right up, and it served it/them right.
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-02 07:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=2600]Landser, JAT, Tex or neo-classical are probably the ones to ask.[/QUOTE] Here's my hypothesis:
If we accept this as a hack, not only was the forum hacked, but so were email accounts and IMs.
If so, it's unlikely the hack occurred via vB, although vB does appear to have its holes.
My guess: someone posted an image to the Phora that was hosted on their remote site, tailed the logs and got Phade's IP, then went in via Windows networking or another OS hole. That gains one access to a whole range of passwords (and browser cookie files, more importantly, in this case).
Either that, or Fade was using the same password on his email as on the site, or some variation therefore.
If we do not accept it as a hack, it was a reasonable way to end the Phora with as much chaos as possible. However, I am not yet ready to ascribe this behavior to Fade.
From what I saw, the forums were either deleted or locked before the board was shut down, and then later, deleted in piecemeal.
2005-02-02 07:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt] You see, FakeTheFlake figgrd out that 'Lindstedt can't help himself' (Genesis 3:15 and all that), so I got a pass, wherein Ill Fagno, probable jew, was supposed to know better. I thought it was hilarious. Dranus, ArchAnus, and the rest of the whigger/jew/mamzer feebs like to have had a cow. You see, to FakeTheFlake, I'm merely an entertaining stupid crazy mean redneck whereas Ill Fagno is an arrogant sphincter-void dirty jew looking down on its mark-of-Cain hooked snout being deliberately mean to some adolescent emotionally challenged geeky whigger rich kid, i.e. Fake. This is from thephora by FakeTheFlake at approximately 4:25 p.m. CST:
[quote=FakeTheFlake] The difference between Lindstedt and the others is that Lindstedt doesn't know any better and can't help himself. The others are free to return provided that they A.) refrain from trolling B.) refrain from engaging in personal attacks C.) refrain from attacking the board. I don't think that is too much to ask (that they behave themselves). And there will be no apology to il ragno. Its il ragno who should apologize. Most administrators would not even consider unbanning such people after having to put up with such malicious personal attacks. So when are you going to apologise to Fake, Ill Fagno? :yawn:
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-02 11:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Having no opinion on his taking down his site, I gotta admit the israeli proxy is a nice touch. I seem to recall...what was it last time some months ago? Islamic jihadist hackers or some such?[/QUOTE] James Bond should only have Fade's international cast of supervillains! Raina can be Rosa Klebb. But who gets to hiss "[I]you know the penalty for failure, Number 2[/I]" at his underlings while petting a white cat?
Lucky, I gotta admit sometimes I laugh at your stuff despite myself. You're like the Post Office of dementia: neither snow, nor sleet, nor coordinated Mossad ninja-attacks on meaningless Internet forums will stop you from your appointed rounds.
[QUOTE]I doubt that FakeTheFlake auto-castrated hisself.....Phorafags/feebs was Fake's pride&joy.......[B]When I was Fake's age, I had different interests. [/B] [/QUOTE] [I]At last [/I] we agree completely on something. 24 is when you should be waking up next to females whose names you've forgotten, or never asked in the first place. Or legging out a line drive into a stand-up double, or [I]some[/I]thing besides carrying Jonah Goldberg's water and rifling through other people's mail.
[QUOTE]You see, to FakeTheFlake, I'm merely an entertaining stupid crazy mean redneck whereas Ill Fagno is an arrogant sphincter-void dirty jew looking down on its mark-of-Cain hooked snout being deliberately mean to some adolescent emotionally challenged geeky whigger rich kid, i.e. Fake. [/QUOTE] Interesting; I'm actually growing more Jewish [I]exponentially[/I], it seems. I mean, last night I went to sleep with a regular nose; you should've [B]heard [/B] me shrieking when I brushed my teeth in front of the bathroom mirror this morning! Frankly, I'm afraid to pull back the waistband of my shorts to gauge how much shrinking took place besides....
[QUOTE]So when are you going to apologise to Fake, Ill Fagno? [/QUOTE] Fade, I am so very, very [I]sorry [/I] that you're incapable of going three days without grandstanding for attention, you have no idea. [I]Please [/I] accept my heartfelt apology for looking through my private messages seeking 'evidence' of disloyalty like a vice cop with a panty fetish. With tearful supplication, I ask you to [I]forgive [/I] me for struggling against my restraints as you began smearing me with 'insults' so toothless we all thought you'd hired Petr to write your material. Truly, it's [I]my [/I] fault that you're a deer-tick on the testicles of your betters.
Howzat?
[QUOTE]My guess: [B]someone posted an image [/B] to the Phora that was hosted on their remote site, tailed the logs and got Phade's IP, then went in via Windows networking or another OS hole. [/QUOTE] If this isn't hara-kiri, it's looking more and more like Desaix. Guy posted more images than actual text - four or five giant images per 'comment', at times! - and then of course deleted them constantly.
2005-02-02 12:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]If this isn't hara-kiri, it's looking more and more like Desaix. Guy posted more images than actual text - four or five giant images per 'comment', at times! - and then of course deleted them constantly.[/QUOTE] You mean this [URL=http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=180872&postcount=3]strange critter?[/URL]
Kooks like this should be banned on sight...
2005-02-02 12:30 | User Profile
Ok - [U]now[/U] I'm ticked off.
"Martin Lindstedt petting zoo" is [I]mine[/I]!
2005-02-02 14:10 | User Profile
This Greek tragedy called The Phora is summed up with these quotes:
"Oh boy is this great!"-Fred Dorfman, Animal House
Or, "Can I have 10,000 marbles please?"-Dorfman
Or, "Thank you God"-little kid reading Playboy
Or, "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Blutarski
Or, "What the hell we supposed do you moron?"-retarded dude
Or, "Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Dorfman"-Dean Wormer
Or, "Daniel Simpson-you have no grade point average"-Dean Wormer
Or, "Could I buy some pot from you?"-Larry
2005-02-02 14:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]After a couple of quick IP traces, in my opinion Fade is yanking some folks' chains. I suspect he wanted to tank his board, but do it in a manner where it appeared like he got hacked, thus avoiding personal culpability. To give the drama some poetic charm, he even used an israeli proxy for his 'follow-up' message here. Having no opinion on his taking down his site, I gotta admit the israeli proxy is a nice touch. I seem to recall...what was it last time some months ago? Islamic jihadist hackers or some such?
Pretty smooth, Fade. :thumbsup:
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TD, this guy doesn't even know what adaware is. He's less computer literate than I am. He left all tech issues to Loki. The arab hackers thing happened to a bunch of other people too, they posted on the main vbullitin site about it.
2005-02-02 14:40 | User Profile
[B]"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Blutarski[/B]
HAHAHAHA
2005-02-02 14:52 | User Profile
[img]http://www.hollywoodteenmovies.com/AnimalGallery2.jpg[/img] Fade contemplates his next move ...
2005-02-02 15:08 | User Profile
XMH, you forgot:
"Mind if we dance wif yo dates?"
2005-02-02 15:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]XMH, you forgot:
"Mind if we dance wif yo dates?"[/QUOTE]
HAHAHA!
Or, "I'm studying primitive cultures"-white girl to black thug in the bar
Or, "Flounder (Fade) you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You f*cked up - you trusted us! Hey, make the best of it! Maybe we can help."-Otter
2005-02-02 15:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=albion][img]http://www.hollywoodteenmovies.com/AnimalGallery2.jpg[/img] Fade contemplates his next move ...[/QUOTE]
FOOOOOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2005-02-02 15:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]TD, this guy doesn't even know what adaware is. He's less computer literate than I am.[/QUOTE]
I doubt that, Edana. Based on my observation, I think it much more likely he feigned ignorance because he enjoyed having other people do things for him.
I know his type and that explanation fits much better. Granted I don't go so much by what someone says, but rather my own hunches and intuition based on character assessment. FWIW.
I know some of you have alot invested over there and that's fine, I feel your pain. Believe me. You're more than free and welcome to discuss it to your heart's content here. But for me I gave my best guestimation above and now proceed to wash my hands of it. For those of you new to our board, please check out the other forums and put your two cents in if you feel so led.
2005-02-02 16:02 | User Profile
I quit the Phora before this happened for a few reasons, some personal, some practical. After the drama, I had a feeling I was on a sinking ship.
I go on hunches and character assessment as well, based on hours talking (arguing?) to him personally over crap. I've told him when I think he's pulling crap. My intuition says he did not do this. The motive is fuzzy and will become even more fuzzy if he puts the Phora back up like he says he's going to. He already had a chance to shut down the Phora will more dignity last weekend. Shutting it down, putting it back up again, then pulling off a large, elaborate hoax to shut it down again and then putting it up again is a real stretch, even for him. He has no motive to feign ignorance about things like adaware, since I'm not going to install anything for him if he tells me he has no clue about these programs.... unless, of course, every statement and rant by him for hours to a couple of us about this is all part of this giant hoax.
2005-02-02 16:21 | User Profile
Tex, were you able to trace his home IP through the proxy, or are you assuming it was him only because a proxy was used at all?
2005-02-02 16:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE]But for me I gave my best guestimation above and now proceed to wash my hands of it. [/QUOTE]
Problems reading English?
2005-02-02 16:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Problems reading English?[/QUOTE]
What do you mean, IR?
2005-02-02 16:48 | User Profile
Amid the mighty ruins of The Phora, the unwashed masses dance in mindless ecstasy. **
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/FatBoyDancingAndJigglingANIMATEDxJuly2004.gif[/img]
2005-02-02 16:51 | User Profile
It looked to me like you'd stated your suspicions, your [I]reasons [/I] for them, and were otherwise withdrawing from the discussion.
Looked to me like Luh was trying to drag you back in so he could poke holes in your logic (which you already said were based on hunches more than public statements), and inevitably accuse you of wielding an anti-Fade the Butcher agenda. He does that sort of thing, you know.
If I spoke out of turn, my apologies.
2005-02-02 16:54 | User Profile
Just one of the many white families who once enjoyed the golden, sun-filled days at The Phora.... **
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/WhiteFamilyFrolickingInGoldenOrangeBeachSunsetJuly2004.jpg[/img]
2005-02-02 16:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]It looked to me like you'd stated your suspicions, your [I]reasons [/I] for them, and were otherwise withdrawing from the discussion.
Looked to me like Luh was trying to drag you back in so he could poke holes in your logic (which you already said were based on hunches more than public statements), and inevitably accuse you of wielding an anti-Fade the Butcher agenda. He does that sort of thing, you know.
If I spoke out of turn, my apologies.[/QUOTE]
Oh, OK. I see now. Sorry about that. You are entirely correct here, at least about my statement/position.
2005-02-02 16:58 | User Profile
Don Black of Stormfront was so impressed by FadeTheButcher's forum, he even volunteered to work in The Phora's executive cafeteria...
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/DonBlackServingHamburgers.jpg[/img]
2005-02-02 17:00 | User Profile
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/WhiteFamilyFrolickingInGoldenOrangeBeachSunsetJuly2004.jpg[/IMG]
Now, is the image above an ad trying to sell you:
[I]come back to Jamaica, mon?[/I]
[I]Newport Cigarettes?[/I]
[I]Stayfree mini-pads?[/I]
[I]Levitra? [/I]
"In the rare event an erection lasts longer than twenty-four hours, fold your hands across your chest and wait for the coroner."
2005-02-02 17:07 | User Profile
Even now, many fear the The Phora will rise again, like a Phoenix from the ashes, to cast its flaming scorn upon the nattering nabobs of Neo-Nazism....
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/FadeTheButcherExecutesVNNsNeoNazis.gif[/img]
2005-02-02 17:38 | User Profile
It really looks like some hostile jerk has taken over Phora - now there is this mocking stuff at this link:
[url]http://www.thephora.org/[/url]
[SIZE=3][COLOR=DarkRed]The Phora Project - Grand Closure
2/2/05 - The Phora officially closed.
Its been swell, folks But that's all she wrote. But fear not try one of the many alternative websites to enjoy:
ADL
IMT
King Center[/COLOR][/SIZE]
2005-02-02 17:44 | User Profile
More grammar mistakes and some dumb links. This person is mocking Fade with those links.
2005-02-02 17:53 | User Profile
This is obviously the work of ZOG :caiphas: What motive would Fade have to pull a stupid stunt like this?
2005-02-02 18:49 | User Profile
I have received an email from Fade a while back and the IP on the most recent, controversial one indicates a location a thousand miles away. Can originating IPs in emails be manipulated?
2005-02-02 18:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]More grammar mistakes and some dumb links. This person is mocking Fade with those links.[/QUOTE] Hey Edana, I don't know what happened b/w you and Fade and I don't wanna get involved, but it's nice to see you again. My life is empty without the Phora. Can you believe they made ME a moderator?!?!?!:flex:
2005-02-02 19:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]It looked to me like you'd stated your suspicions, your [I]reasons [/I] for them, and were otherwise withdrawing from the discussion.
Looked to me like Luh was trying to drag you back in so he could poke holes in your logic (which you already said were based on hunches more than public statements), and inevitably accuse you of wielding an anti-Fade the Butcher agenda. He does that sort of thing, you know.
If I spoke out of turn, my apologies.[/QUOTE] Um, it was just a simple question. I didn't read his subsequent posts. He mentioned the proxy situation before anything about hunches, and I took that as the main source for his reasoning. If it is only a hunch, it would have nothing to do with proxies, as it would actually be more surprising had a hacker not made use of a proxy for such an operation.
It's a very silly thing to assume, so you'll have to forgive me for not jumping to such a hostile conclusion with a guy I know nothing about.
2005-02-02 19:40 | User Profile
Jaybird, you're on my shit-list; I read your PMs, backstabber.
There is no room on OD for the likes of a Luh Windan. [I]Banned.[/I]
(Just kidding, boys. But, uh....how's it [I]feel?[/I])
Snouter: is the new originating IP located in the New York/New Jersey area?
2005-02-02 21:29 | User Profile
[img]http://www.gothamist.com/images/2004_02_chuckground.jpg[/img] Punxutawney Fade emerges from his cave and sees his shadow side. He decides there will be six more months of no Phora.
2005-02-02 22:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Snouter: is the new originating IP located in the New York/New Jersey area?[/QUOTE]
It was few hundred miles away, not far from Boston actually.
2005-02-02 22:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=albion][img]http://www.gothamist.com/images/2004_02_chuckground.jpg[/img] Punxutawney Fade emerges from his cave and sees his shadow side. He decides there will be six more months of no Phora.[/QUOTE]Albion, I must censor you on this violation of forum rules. We don't even give out names and addresses, much less posters actual picture :lol:
2005-02-02 22:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]Whatever your opinions on him personally, he didn't do this.[/QUOTE]
Apparently not, but by being so mercurial and perfidious, he provoked an even bigger jerk into doing it, or so it rather seems to me. Not that the so-called bigger jerk isn't responsible for his (her?) own actions, but had Fade behaved reasonably, rather than like a spoiled brat who was angered by the fact the other kids were taking a greater amusement in his toys than he was able to manage, I doubt very much this miscreant would have emerged onto the scene. He's sown, and now he's reaped. One might even call it karma, i.e. by being a dork, he has summoned a more tyrannical dork to abuse him too, right along with the rest of us. Its hard not to think there's an element of his having frankly deserved it (but for what its worth, I would have no problem with such pirates, including specifically the one who abused Fade's property rights & privacy, serving a term of, oh, say, three-to-six months in the county jail - its just not right for people to do crap like that, irrespective of the notion that Fade may well have had it coming).
2005-02-02 22:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]I'm not going to cut/paste private conversations, but he is definitely trying to figure out who did this. He's contacted the host and waiting for a response.[/QUOTE]
Fade is a jerk, but I sincerely hope he gets some satisfaction with regards to this uber-troll. He has nothing but my best wishes in that regard. I loathe destructive hackers (unless they are hacking into the ADL or the Office of Special Plans or whatnot; that's different).
2005-02-02 22:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]After a couple of quick IP traces, in my opinion Fade is yanking some folks' chains. I suspect he wanted to tank his board, but do it in a manner where it appeared like he got hacked, thus avoiding personal culpability. To give the drama some poetic charm, he even used an israeli proxy for his 'follow-up' message here. Having no opinion on his taking down his site, I gotta admit the israeli proxy is a nice touch. I seem to recall...what was it last time some months ago? Islamic jihadist hackers or some such?
Pretty smooth, Fade. :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]
Regarding most people, that would be paranoid drivel. In Fade's case, however, it doesn't strike me as all that far-fetched.
2005-02-02 22:46 | User Profile
Now Phora link connects into the AIPAC home page...
Petr
2005-02-02 22:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Prince]This is obviously the work of ZOG :caiphas: What motive would Fade have to pull a stupid stunt like this?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Edana]More grammar mistakes and some dumb links. This person is mocking Fade with those links.[/QUOTE] My money is its Fade mocking you. His success with the Phora seems to rely on the little deluded sense of grandiosity you all have, that someone but yourselves really care about you or my little internet interpolutions. Much less someone with the obvious expertise to pull of a stunt like is supposedly happening, taking over Fade's identity as well as his own message board.
If there's anyone in the world with an inclination and mental state to pull this kind of stunt off, 99% of the evidence is with Fade himself.
Wake up and smell the coffee you declining group of Fade backers.
Otherwise you may hear Fade boasting in a few months what he stunt he managed to pull over you fools.
2005-02-02 22:49 | User Profile
I just hit my Internet Explorer "Favorites" link to The Phora, and I got re-directed to the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee!!! (AIPAC)
[I]WHAT IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT'S HOLY IS GOING ON HERE???[/I]
2005-02-02 22:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]My money is its Fade mocking you...[/QUOTE]
Do you use Paypal? I could use a little wallet padding.
2005-02-02 22:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]Can you believe they made ME a moderator?!?!?!:flex:[/QUOTE]
Even you yourself are aware of the inappropriateness of making you a Moderator....no offense, of course. I'm sure you agee, after all.
2005-02-02 23:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Edana]Do you use Paypal? I could use a little wallet padding.[/QUOTE]PM me your paypal email. I'll send you some $$$.
2005-02-02 23:44 | User Profile
Vou vriesx thingamingy, massive picture poster that il ragno was talking about was none other then the rambling man who was banned off vnn along time ago. The guy would post 18 page threads ranting to himself. That and in between telling us all how he was a shape shifting lizard and he needed to take pills so he did not shape shift and other nutty stuff. He said he would hack and bring down vnn. He always reminded me of that Golum creature from Lord of the Rings.LOL
2005-02-02 23:50 | User Profile
He's obviously not smart enough, since he couldn't bring down VNN. Just another stupid dork on the net.
2005-02-03 00:20 | User Profile
Yeah but old arcadia ent wacko jacko, was a nutty mofo though. [QUOTE=Edana]He's obviously not smart enough, since he couldn't bring down VNN. Just another stupid dork on the net.[/QUOTE]
2005-02-03 01:14 | User Profile
Does anyone remember that, shortly before the Phora went down in this latest installment of the soap opera, that Kryjoverste(sp?)was requesting Fade to remove all of his posts, and delete his account, (he wouldn't say why)... I'm not saying that Kryjoverste(sp?) brought down the Phora, but it's something to think about(perhaps it influenced Fade to remove the site, or something like that).:unsure:
2005-02-03 01:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]Now Phora link connects into the AIPAC home page...
Petr[/QUOTE]
yes, I just noticed this. And earlier there was an ADL link. what the hell??????
2005-02-03 02:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=G.Larson]Vou vriesx thingamingy, massive picture poster that il ragno was talking about was none other then the rambling man who was banned off vnn along time ago. The guy would post 18 page threads ranting to himself. That and in between telling us all how he was a shape shifting lizard and he needed to take pills so he did not shape shift and other nutty stuff. He said he would hack and bring down vnn. He always reminded me of that Golum creature from Lord of the Rings.LOL[/QUOTE]
He is a shape shifting lizard? He would seriously say that type of thing? LMWAO. He said a few bizarre things on the Phora, but nothing like that, I don't think. But then again, he kept deleting everything he would say. I tried to pull up some of his old posts on VNN but I couldn't find anything. Is this guy one of those Illumanati weirdos, or maybe just a very frequent LSD user?
2005-02-03 03:15 | User Profile
I have it on good word that Kraw and Red were planning on converting DiscussNASCAR.com into a White Nationalist website and siphon away most of the Phora's constituency (mostly Kraw's idea, I presume), so that's perhaps another factor in recent events and another thing that we should keep in mind through all this turmoil.
2005-02-03 04:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Jaybird, you're on my shit-list; I read your PMs, backstabber.[/QUOTE]I hope you're joking. Most of my PMs revolved around "who is that chick?" or "where did you get that picture of that chick?"
Any shit-talking I did about you (if there was any at all), I did on the forum proper.
2005-02-03 04:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]Even you yourself are aware of the inappropriateness of making you a Moderator....no offense, of course. I'm sure you agee, after all.[/QUOTE]Actually, for the short while I was moderator, I never abused my mod powers, unlike some.
2005-02-03 04:20 | User Profile
Going to the Phora will now lead you directly to American Israeli PAC.
2005-02-03 04:21 | User Profile
[B]Now Phora link connects into the AIPAC home page...[/B]
This seems like a natural outcome of FadeTheButcherââ¬â¢s multifarious ââ¬Åphilosophicalââ¬Â peregrinations, i.e., he has finally arrived home. What could be more fitting for this self-seeking egomaniac than to end up working for AIPAC or ADL? At any rate, his dizzying metamorphoses of the past few months must lead one to believe that he's either insane or some sort of plant. The Phora has got to be the most ridiculous outfit in cyberspace.
2005-02-03 04:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]Actually, for the short while I was moderator, I never abused my mod powers, unlike some.[/QUOTE]You were a moderator at one point, Jay? Yeah, you don't really seem like the type that would "abuse your mod powers" since I never saw you get all pissed off at anyone and act like an immature fool, like some do.
2005-02-03 04:50 | User Profile
actually acting the immature fool is [I]all[/I] jaybird does.
2005-02-03 04:56 | User Profile
starr, what did you think of John Rocker? :beer:
2005-02-03 04:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]actually acting the immature fool is all jaybird does.[/QUOTE] His posts and threads, that I have seen, were just typical of a young guy, nothing wrong with that. My point was, I don't remember ever seeing him get into a worthless pissing contest with anyone, over words on the internet, now that seems pretty immature. This would show he is level-headed, unlike many I have seen that frequent internet message boards.
2005-02-03 05:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Snouter]starr, what did you think of John Rocker? :beer:[/QUOTE] John Rocker(you,? :thumbsup: ) would have been alright if he/you would have settled down on some of his/your neo-con, kill all the "mudslime" rants. LOL
If you/he is the real John Rocker, you can do no wrong.
2005-02-03 05:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]Actually, for the short while I was moderator, I never abused my mod powers, unlike some.[/QUOTE]
I just meant that since your posts (not that I'm criticizing them, as I often enjoyed them, albeit in a guilty pleasure sort of way, and as you'll recall, I was a frequent contributor to your just-for-fun threads), were often (as you admitted in your previous message) less than...shall we say, the height of intellectual seriousness, you would thus seem an odd choice for being granted Moderator status, all other factors being equal. That's all I meant; not that you were somehow psychologically unsuited for Moderator status, or anything unpleasant like that. I don't doubt you were fair, but based on the content of your posts, if you were Fade, and you were trying to develop a serious political discussion board, would you have picked you, so to speak, to be a Moderator? Probably not. But since you had never, at least not that I recall, gotten into a serious disagreement with Fade, you were, um, uniquely qualified to fill such a post....
2005-02-03 05:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]actually acting the immature fool is [I]all[/I] jaybird does.[/QUOTE]
At least he enjoys himself....
2005-02-03 06:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]actually acting the immature fool is all jaybird does.[/QUOTE]Bardamu, still holding a grudge?
2005-02-03 06:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]John Rocker(you,? :thumbsup: ) would have been alright if he/you would have settled down on some of his/your neo-con, kill all the "mudslime" rants. LOL
If you/he is the real John Rocker, you can do no wrong.[/QUOTE] That is exactly why Rocker was one of my favorite posters. He sees the Muslims for what they are and puts aside this The Enemy of my enemy is my friend crap. Who cares if they dont like Jews. They are trash.
2005-02-03 06:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr][color=black]REFERRING TO JAYBIRD (ME)...[/color]His posts and threads, that I have seen, were just typical of a young guy, nothing wrong with that. My point was, I don't remember ever seeing him get into a worthless pissing contest with anyone, over words on the internet, now that seems pretty immature. This would show he is level-headed, unlike many I have seen that frequent internet message boards.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, yeah, I'm a typical young guy. Look, there's a billion websites where I could be all intellectual if I wanted too. That's why I liked the Phora, cause I could kick back. Who wants to be gloom and doom all day? I'm too carefree for that. You're right, I had it out with many on the Phora. And out of all those, maybe 2 or 3 took it personal. Once people realize I'm just a smart ass and it's nothing personal, we've become friends. Hell, Napoleon HATED me at one point, now me and him talk just about every other day. ZeaL thought I was a communist whigger at first, now me and him talk all the time too. And as for being fair, I definitely am. When the Phora came back up, Landser would edit my posts and change the names of all my threads to stupid crap like "Eminem is cool". How many times did I edit his? ZERO. I can take much more than I can give out. People who get all upset at a little ribbing are the immature ones. (Nanny nanny boo boo:tnguess: )
2005-02-03 06:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]I just meant that since your posts (not that I'm criticizing them, as I often enjoyed them, albeit in a guilty pleasure sort of way, and as you'll recall, I was a frequent contributor to your just-for-fun threads), were often (as you admitted in your previous message) less than...shall we say, the height of intellectual seriousness, you would thus seem an odd choice for being granted Moderator status, all other factors being equal. That's all I meant; not that you were somehow psychologically unsuited for Moderator status, or anything unpleasant like that. I don't doubt you were fair, but based on the content of your posts, if you were Fade, and you were trying to develop a serious political discussion board, would you have picked you, so to speak, to be a Moderator? Probably not. But since you had never, at least not that I recall, gotten into a serious disagreement with Fade, you were, um, uniquely qualified to fill such a post....[/QUOTE]I wasn't a super mod or anything. Only in The Lounge. And since I'm a Lounge Lizard and rarely ventured outside of it, it suited me.
2005-02-03 06:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]At least he enjoys himself....[/QUOTE]That I do, and I enjoy all of yall too!
2005-02-03 07:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=ZeaL]That is exactly why Rocker was one of my favorite posters. He sees the Muslims for what they are and puts aside this The Enemy of my enemy is my friend crap. Who cares if they dont like Jews. They are trash.[/QUOTE] I do agree that they are trash. I have a problem with the ones living among us, not the ones living in their own countries, that do not want us there, the reasons for which are perfectly understandable to me. If someone is going to get angry with whatever actions these so-called terrorists deem neccessary to defend themselves against Zioinist/american occupation,(killing of soldiers,etc) they should, at least occasionally also get angry with the reasons and the people who sent these soldiers,etc into harms way in the first place. That is my point. I don't believe the bullshit line "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" either. I don't consider the muslims to be any kind of ally, that would be stupid. I just can understand the reasoning behind some of the things they do.
2005-02-03 07:07 | User Profile
Hey ZeaL! Who is that funny looking monkey in your avatar?!?! Looks like a mug shot bro. :thumbsup:
2005-02-03 07:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]I do agree that they are trash. I have a problem with the ones living among us, not the ones living in their own countries, that do not want us there, the reasons for which are perfectly understandable to me. If someone is going to get angry with whatever actions these so-called terrorists deem neccessary to defend themselves against Zioinist/american occupation,(killing of soldiers,etc) they should, at least occasionally also get angry with the reasons and the people who sent these soldiers,etc into harms way in the first place. That is my point. I don't believe the bullshit line "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" either. I don't consider the muslims to be any kind of ally, that would be stupid. I just can understand the reasoning behind some of the things they do.[/QUOTE] I completely understand your point. If my country was invaded by a foreign force I would fight too but not under the circumstances. They were liberated from a dictatorship, not like Nazi Germany where the people benifited from it, but from a radical man who emptied the nations bank account for his own personal gain. The Muslims though are incapable of rational thinking thus this occupation is worthless. It will take years if not decades to bring that part of the world under control.
2005-02-03 07:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]Hey ZeaL! Who is that funny looking monkey in your avatar?!?! Looks like a mug shot bro. :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]Hey now, it is for the ladies.
2005-02-03 07:15 | User Profile
Yeah he was way off his meds in those times. When he was banned all his posts were deleted because they just choked the forum. But that was wayyyy back:whlch: before you were there in the pre,pre millermania days before it turned into a cult of plastic boys ego.:thumbd:
[QUOTE=starr]He is a shape shifting lizard? He would seriously say that type of thing? LMWAO. He said a few bizarre things on the Phora, but nothing like that, I don't think. But then again, he kept deleting everything he would say. I tried to pull up some of his old posts on VNN but I couldn't find anything. Is this guy one of those Illumanati weirdos, or maybe just a very frequent LSD user?[/QUOTE]
2005-02-03 07:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]I do agree that they are trash. I have a problem with the ones living among us, not the ones living in their own countries, that do not want us there, the reasons for which are perfectly understandable to me. If someone is going to get angry with whatever actions these so-called terrorists deem neccessary to defend themselves against Zioinist/american occupation,(killing of soldiers,etc) they should, at least occasionally also get angry with the reasons and the people who sent these soldiers,etc into harms way in the first place. That is my point. I don't believe the bullshit line "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" either. I don't consider the muslims to be any kind of ally, that would be stupid. I just can understand the reasoning behind some of the things they do.[/QUOTE]Just cause we don't all agree with the War is no reason to take a Dr. Brandt type stance and cheer every time an American is killed. I believe it was loudmouths like him that sparked the reactionary "Screw all Moslems" stance that many Phora Phreaks took. That's why I hate intellectuals. They live in a world of "But, what if this or what if that?". It doesn't matter. WE'RE THERE! It's too late to debate the merits of the War. So pick a side. Who are you gonna support? Dirty moslems or American white guys?
2005-02-03 07:19 | User Profile
Why do political forums need a "lounge"?
2005-02-03 07:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=ZeaL]Hey now, it is for the ladies.[/QUOTE]You mean those black chicks you try to pick up on Hot or Not?
2005-02-03 07:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]You mean those black chicks you try to pick up on Hot or Not?[/QUOTE] Hey now, i dont pick them up. They message me and I promptly delete them.
2005-02-03 07:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]Just cause we don't all agree with the War is no reason to take a Dr. Brandt type stance and cheer every time an American is killed. I believe it was loudmouths like him that sparked the reactionary "Screw all Moslems" stance that many Phora Phreaks took. That's why I hate intellectuals. They live in a world of "But, what if this or what if that?". It doesn't matter. WE'RE THERE! It's too late to debate the merits of the War. So pick a side. Who are you gonna support? Dirty moslems or American white guys?[/QUOTE]I don't cheer every time an American is killed. But I am not going to place the blame on the insurgent types who are defending themselves. I place the blame instead on the Zionists and their American puppet/profiteer politicians. Where is this whole thing going to end? When all of these middle eastern nations are firmly under Zionist/american control? How many more young white men are going to have to die to achieve something like that, many probably even against their own will, if there is a draft, which is becoming a huge possiblility.
2005-02-03 07:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Dan Dare]Why do political forums need a "lounge"?[/QUOTE]So that lightweight conversations like the above can be relegated to a particular section, and not impede the flow of pseudointellectual posturing that goes on in the rest of the "political" forum. * * insert Jaybird's hot chick of the week here * * :smoke:
2005-02-03 08:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Dan Dare]Why do political forums need a "lounge"?[/QUOTE]I already explained. A lot of posters on the Phora were in their 20s and even younger. It was necessary to keep everybody sane and it was nice to have a place to "socialize." Without it, many youngsters might turn into the anti-social types you see over at Stormfront. The Lounge attracted a lot of attention and prolly kept a lot of people there. And why do I always get blamed for all the "hot chick" threads? I started TWO. There were "chick" threads before I even got there. I can't help it if others took the idea and ran with it.
2005-02-03 08:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]I already explained. A lot of posters on the Phora were in their 20s and even younger. It was necessary to keep everybody sane and it was nice to have a place to "socialize." Without it, many youngsters might turn into the anti-social types you see over at Stormfront. The Lounge attracted a lot of attention and prolly kept a lot of people there. And why do I always get blamed for all the "hot chick" threads? I started TWO. There were "chick" threads before I even got there. I can't help it if others took the idea and ran with it.[/QUOTE]
Well, to your credit, at least you are [or is it [I]were[/I]?] a Marine. That counts for something.
I just hope that you will isten to us older folks and realize why American troops are in Iraq. American foreign policy revolves around Israel. As I have said before, America didn't have a problem with the Arabs until the illegitimate state of Israel was created in 1948.
[edited]
2005-02-03 08:30 | User Profile
Et En Arcadia Ego-Is he "all there"? [url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=6634"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=6634[/url]
Time to ban Et_En_Arcadia_Ego [url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=6086"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=6086[/url]
What happened to; Et_En_Arcadia_Ego ??? [url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4919"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4919[/url]
2005-02-03 08:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]He is a shape shifting lizard? He would seriously say that type of thing? LMWAO. He said a few bizarre things on the Phora, but nothing like that, I don't think. But then again, he kept deleting everything he would say. I tried to pull up some of his old posts on VNN but I couldn't find anything. Is this guy one of those Illumanati weirdos, or maybe just a very frequent LSD user?[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you could find some of his old posts using Googles Cache memory???
Anyhow I remember that user from VNNF and I seriously doubt he was a Reptiliain Full-Blood. They do not waste time on the Internet. I believe he was only a cross-breed impregnated with a Reptilian genetic stream that made it easier for him to be possessed from the lower fourth dimension, a mere pawn of the Reptilians used to cause havoc on those getting too close to the Truth.
2005-02-03 09:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]He is a shape shifting lizard? He would seriously say that type of thing? LMWAO. He said a few bizarre things on the Phora, but nothing like that, I don't think. But then again, he kept deleting everything he would say. I tried to pull up some of his old posts on VNN but I couldn't find anything. Is this guy one of those Illumanati weirdos, or maybe just a very frequent LSD user?[/QUOTE]He's a few fries short of a value meal. He was frying his azz off in this little ditty: [url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4435&highlight=arcadia"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4435&highlight=arcadia[/url]
2005-02-03 09:55 | User Profile
For my money, Desaix/Arcadia is the guilty party here, as I thought from the beginning.
But considering the last few pages of this thread, perhaps he should be thanked and not chided.
A circumstantial morsel ferreted out by Edana:
[url]http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=29536&postcount=134[/url]
[QUOTE][QUOTE]Quote: Et_Is_An_Ego can enumerate the ways he intends on "attacking" VNN? "Packet flooding" which can easily be logged by the attackee( UDP and ICMP packets)and any half baked firewall has no trouble analyzing and discarding, are the pranks of 13 year-old wanna-be no-nothing hacker kids!
By the way, if Ego intends on attacking VNN from a security-compromised Windows-based PC then he will have a rude awakening. Windows machines (compared to Unix machines) are blessedly limited in their ability to generate deliberately invalid Internet packets.[/QUOTE]
[B]No, that is for amatuers .. I'm likely to attack through http 1.0/1.1 socket on port 80 (port 80/http RFC has no protracted security controls just he applications on the application layer behind it ) since Redhat doesn't run apache in a chrooted "jail" environment by parsing esoteric cryptic unicode/hexadecimal through perl regexps that way I can traverse the computer with obfuscated generated code to evade even the most elite IDS logging system.
No firewall on earth can stop that attack due to the nature of the rules that govern the http RFC .
That is just way .. I could think of a 100 other ways to take down this website though since Redhat is full of insecure SUID code and starts with a million modules and services enabled by default -- depends on the admin too- to a certain extent.
Most windows computers on subnets can't be highjacked via simple zombie tcp SEQ methods because of pointcast type filtering at the ISP gateway level they need to be highjacked thoroughly via trojans.[/B] ____[/QUOTE]
[I]Hell[/I]-o!
2005-02-03 10:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Intrepid]He's a few fries short of a value meal. He was frying his azz off in this little ditty: [url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4435&highlight=arcadia"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4435&highlight=arcadia[/url][/QUOTE]
OMG!! This guy is completely [size=3]INSANE[/size]. Is he schizophrenic or something??
2005-02-03 11:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]For my money, Desaix/Arcadia is the guilty party here, as I thought from the beginning.
But considering the last few pages of this thread, perhaps he should be thanked and not chided.
A circumstantial morsel ferreted out by Edana:
[url]http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=29536&postcount=134[/url]
[I]Hell[/I]-o![/QUOTE]
That's exactly who I think did it. I asked him once on the Phora a few weeks ago (Fade may confirm this if Desaix hacked my account and Fade's backtracked him) why he was deleting all his own posts, he said he was 'paranoid'. That wierd stuff he posted about networking in the science and technology section made me more interested in him too. I've been suspicious of him for a while. I wouldn't be suprised if he did it.
2005-02-03 11:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Anarch]That's exactly who I think did it. I asked him once on the Phora a few weeks ago (Fade may confirm this if Desaix hacked my account and Fade's backtracked him) why [B]he was deleting all his own posts[/B], he said he was 'paranoid'. That wierd stuff he posted about networking in the science and technology section made me more interested in him too. I've been suspicious of him for a while. I wouldn't be suprised if he did it.[/QUOTE] Of course... he was IP-mining
Who except administrators can download the images in a deleted post?
2005-02-03 14:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE][QUOTE]Originally Posted by il ragno Snouter: is the new originating IP located in the New York/New Jersey area? [/QUOTE]
It was few hundred miles away, not far from Boston actually.[/QUOTE]
In the vicinity of MIT, in other words. Interesting.
2005-02-03 15:55 | User Profile
The Phora will return: [url="http://www.nordish.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6738&page=5&pp=10"]http://www.nordish.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6738&page=5&pp=10[/url]
2005-02-03 17:12 | User Profile
They fear his return.... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/ThePhoraApolloFTBImage.jpg[/img]
2005-02-03 17:18 | User Profile
This is the best internet soap opera. And the best thing is, just when you think it's about to end, there's a new twist. It just keeps going (and entertaining). Thanks, Fade :thumbsup:
2005-02-03 17:38 | User Profile
MR,
This is very entertaining, particulary the post above yours.
2005-02-03 20:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=albion]Can I delete my own posts here, or am I stuck with just editing them?
The Phora will return: [url="http://www.nordish.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6738&page=5&pp=10"]http://www.nordish.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6738&page=5&pp=10[/url][/QUOTE]Hit the "Edit" button and see - read carefully.
2005-02-03 22:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=General Rommel]They fear his return.... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ihn4f/ThePhoraApolloFTBImage.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I'm not sure why you'd use this particular scene--as I recall in that episode, Apollo was beaten in the end by Captain Kirk, who refused to worship him.
2005-02-03 23:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]I don't cheer every time an American is killed. But I am not going to place the blame on the insurgent types who are defending themselves...[/QUOTE]This is where you and I disagree. Screw them. When dirty moslems (or mexicans or what the hell ever) stop invading MY country, then I'll say they have a right to defend themselves. Until then, I wouldn't trade one white life for the entire moslem population.:furious:
2005-02-04 00:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]Well, to your credit, at least you are [or is it were?] a Marine. That counts for something.
I just hope that you will isten to us older folks and realize why American troops are in Iraq. American foreign policy revolves around Israel. As I have said before, America didn't have a problem with the Arabs until the illegitimate state of Israel was created in 1948.-------[/QUOTE]I'm not a Bush apologist or agree with the the merits of the War, but I'm not gonna stand by and have pity for the poor little insurgents. Can you refresh my memory? Was the State of Israel around in the 700s when Charles Martel was killing ragheads at Tours? It musta been, cause those poor innocent moslems would never attack white countries for no reason, would they?
(p.s.- I think your sig my sound better if it said: Truth is "hate" to those who hate the truth. I dunno, just a suggestion)
2005-02-04 00:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]I'm not a Bush apologist or agree with the the merits of the War, but I'm not gonna stand by and have pity for the poor little insurgents. Can you refresh my memory? Was the State of Israel around in the 700s when Charles Martel was killing ragheads at Tours? It musta been, cause those poor innocent moslems would never attack white countries for no reason, would they?
(p.s.- I think your sig my sound better if it said: Truth is "hate" to those who hate the truth. I dunno, just a suggestion)[/QUOTE]
Buchanan is right--they're over here because we're over there. One of the most clear and correct assessments of the situation comes from Osama bin Laden himself, who said the following in his [url=http://www.911review.org/Wget/abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/miller_binladen_980609.html]1998 interview with ABCNEWS's John Miller[/url]:
I say that the American people gave leadership to a traitorous leadership. This became very clear and especially in Clinton's government. The American government, we think, is an agent that represents the Israel inside America. If we look at sensitive departments in the present government like the Department of Defense or the State Department, or sensitive security departments like the CIA and others, we find that Jews have the first word in the American government, which is how they use America to carry out their plans in the world and especially the Muslim world.
The presence of Americans in the Holy Land supports the Jews and gives them a safe back. The American government, in a time where there are millions of Americans living on the street and those living below the standard of living and below the poverty line, we find the American government turning toward helping Israel in occupying our land and building settlements in the Holy Land.
The American government is throwing away the lives of Americans in Saudi Arabia for the interests of the Jews. The Jews are a people who Allah cited in his holy book the Koran as those who attacked prophets with lies and killings, and attacked Mary and accused her of a great sin. They are a people who killed Allah's prophets ââ¬â would they not kill, rape and steal from humans?
They believe that all humans are created for their use, and found that the Americans are the best-created beings for that use. The American government is driving America to destruction and those same ones have no doubts about America being a superpower in the next decade.
So, we tell the American as a people, and we tell the mothers of soldiers, and American mothers in general, if they value their lives and those of their children, find a nationalistic government that will look after their interests and not the interest of the Jews.
The continuation of the tyranny will bring the fighting to America, like Ramzi Yousef and others. This is my message to the American people to look for a serious government that looks out for their interest and does not attack others, their lands or their honor.
Basically, bin Laden's "demands" are nothing that isn't already in line with America's true national interests.
I agree with your position--a common one on the Right--to the extent that it's true that the Muslims in themselves are not "allies." But the so-called "War on Terror" is one America brought upon itself because of its behavior on the world stage for decades now. Since we're in this situation, the best way to keep America safe isn't Bush's policy of endless military adventurism all over the world. The old adage that "if you defend everywhere, you defend nowhere" remains correct.
Here's the way to fix the problem:
Permanently bring all the troops home from overseas--Europe, Asia, the Middle East, the core of the Earth, and so on, and place them on our borders.
Root out every immigrant of Third-World origin that came into this country since Ted Kennedy's 1965 Immigration Act was passed--including their so-called "citizen" descendants, and repatriate them to their homelands (as best as these can be determined). This way, these people aren't here to cause problems, and if they snuck back into the country, their dusky hue would make them stick out like sore thumbs.
End all foreign aid in all of its forms (military, economic, etc.)--including to Israel.
Stop interfering in the internal affairs of other nations. This would include dismantling the CIA so that what happened recently in the Ukraine will never happen again (we engineered an election to cause a candidate the U.S. found appealing to win the vote).
If we had leadership in this country with the will to bring about these four changes (which are huge "politically incorrect" changes, and I realize I'm more likely to see a UFO before I see these things come to pass), the problem of "Muslim terrorism" would be reduced to insignificance. We'd be eliminating the root causes that drive overseas resentment of the U.S., and we'd also be removing the population from inside our borders that terrorists hide within, and keeping them from getting back into the country. The problems, and the solutions to them, are here in this country, not off in Kazakhstan where we're only wasting blood, treasure, and time.
2005-02-04 01:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]I'm not a Bush apologist or agree with the the merits of the War, but I'm not gonna stand by and have pity for the poor little insurgents. Can you refresh my memory? Was the State of Israel around in the 700s when Charles Martel was killing ragheads at Tours? It musta been, cause those poor innocent moslems would never attack white countries for no reason, would th[/QUOTE]
I do not "pity" the insurgents either. Like I said, I just understand and to some degree, respect the reasoning behind some of the things they do. What should they be doing, in your opinion. Just sitting back and allowing their lands to be taken over by some foreign occuping force? Would you do the same?
The thing is, Israel and our unconditional support of it, along with the Jewish control of our foreign policy(among other things) is the main reason we are so hated by so many of these people today. The terrorists speak of these things, but most people do not listen because they are the "enemy" and what they say goes against the propaganda that we have been fed, and want to believe.
2005-02-04 01:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jaybird]This is where you and I disagree. Screw them. When dirty moslems (or mexicans or what the hell ever) stop invading MY country, then I'll say they have a right to defend themselves. Until then, I wouldn't trade one white life for the entire moslem population.:furious:[/QUOTE] You are right, I don't want these immigrants invading our country, either. But the ones that are currently living in the middle east are NOT invading our country, we are invading theirs.
2005-02-04 04:09 | User Profile
The problem is that our own countries are allowing these so-called muslim "invaders" in; therefore the immigration problem lies squarely on our shoulders; there are no clear-cut 'good guys' or 'bad guys', but folks (of all nationalities)living today which are bearing the burden of the incessant warmongering, intervention, and meddling of [u]their[/u] leaders, both past and present.
I have the greatest respect for the institution of militarism; I have no respect for chickenhawk leaders, like the Bu$h and his neocon gang, and those like him, who use the military (and who propagandize to the next crop of would-be heroes) to further their idealism.
Similarly, I reject other leaders (e.g., :hitler: )who were infact seasoned warriors, yet similarly agitate for (and get) war, despite the fact that they should know, of all people, what such an exercise in barbarity, and often futility, it amounts to... and for what?
To bring "democracy" To realise the greater nation To manifest destiny To colonise, and exploit To enlighten
Ptui! :furious:
2005-02-04 04:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]You are right, I don't want these immigrants invading our country, either. But the ones that are currently living in the middle east are NOT invading our country, we are invading theirs.[/QUOTE]We need their oil.
2005-02-04 06:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Prince]We need their oil.[/QUOTE]
Not particularly. More like there's a need to be able to choke the Chinese economy, which depends on Arab oil.
2005-02-04 07:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Anarch]Not particularly. More like there's a need to be able to choke the Chinese economy, which depends on Arab oil.[/QUOTE] Europe and Japan are also heavily dependent on Arab oil
2005-02-04 07:33 | User Profile
If anybody's keeping score, I really don't care about this little message board drama any longer, and that's not to imply that I was all too interested to begin with. FaDe has decided that he no longer wants to own and operate a message board. Fine. I'm a little disappointed in that I had already settled in and grown accustomed to The Phora, but as they say in France, that's life, as I'm sure they say in many other fine European nations such as Ireland. So c'est la vie as the Irish say.
2005-02-05 03:29 | User Profile
[u]Phora Re-opening [for now][/u]
<o:p> </o:p>Yipppe Phoraââ¬â¢s new secret URL:
[url="http://apex.pilotservers.com/%7Elethal/forum/index.php?"]
2005-02-05 07:08 | User Profile
Is this the real fade?
2005-02-05 12:52 | User Profile
I have registered over at The ("NEW") Phora. Very few other people seem to have followed suit so far (perhaps not surprisingly), but I must give credit where due to Fade for apparently rescinding his ban on me (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in so far as updating The ("NEW") Phora's list of banned trolls has apparentky been undertaken before the site was unveiled). Its pretty dead over there right now, but only time will tell whether I shall come to regret re-associating myself with Fade & his Phora. I sincerely hope not.
2005-02-05 14:31 | User Profile
Y'know, I [I]would [/I] register, but then I'd hate to see the Phora shut down three times in the same week.
2005-02-05 15:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mmartins]Is this the real fade?[/QUOTE]
Negative.
2005-02-06 09:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]I have registered over at The ("NEW") Phora. Very few other people seem to have followed suit so far (perhaps not surprisingly), but I must give credit where due to Fade for apparently rescinding his ban on me (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in so far as updating The ("NEW") Phora's list of banned trolls has apparentky been undertaken before the site was unveiled). Its pretty dead over there right now, but only time will tell whether I shall come to regret re-associating myself with Fade & his Phora. I sincerely hope not.[/QUOTE]
That forum was originally made to be an Anglosphere specific forum, hence why I joined. I'm not sure it'll kick off like the Phora proper did. I'm waiting/hoping that a new, fixed, relatively impenetrable version of The Phora, The Lyceum, Freedom Forums or whatever comes into existence.