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Thread ID: 16536 | Posts: 22 | Started: 2005-02-01
2005-02-01 21:53 | User Profile
It was after many years of prayer, study, and just plain ole Christain life experiences that I finally awakened to the terrible realization that minority Jews are the greatest enemy of Christ and the White race on this planet.
Now I am just as certain that we are in desperate need of a united spiritual guardian to counter this great threat. Here's my thoughts on this.
I began to test the confused denominational waters of Christianity beginning in 1973, after I accepted Jesus Christ as my Personal Saviour April 2nd of that year (My father German Protestant/Mother Lithuanian Catholic).
I read the Bible cover-to-cover numerous times. Worshipped in Protestant churches, was baptized, and spent many many hours sitting under the preaching of Baptist & Pentecostal preachers....I learned first hand what the Bible meant where it declares that God is not the author of confusion. But some preachers did a good job of it....So I left! (I say this w/o malice)
I continued my spiritual odyssey in spite of my disappointment, and slowly began to learn another great truth....Jews fear only one visible church/organization on this planet...The Traditional Catholic Church.
My observations were even confirmed and summed up by Jews themselves in a 'Jewish Sentinel' editorial dated November 26, 1920: 'Our only great historical enemy, our most dangerous enemy, is Rome in all it's shapes and forms, and in all it's ramifications. Whenever the sun of Rome begins to set, that of Jerusalem rises.'
Most recently I recall their near panic over Mel Gibson's 'The Passion of Christ.' At the time there was a great gnashing of Jewish teeth over his powerful (Traditional Catholic) production.
Please keep in mind now. I am not, I repeat not, talking about the Catholic Church in it's present child-molesting, lethargic condition. I'm talking about the Traditional Catholic Church Militant.
Jews know what I mean! In fact, they're probably the only race of people on the earth right now, who do recognize this spiritual/organizational powerhouse which presently lies dormant.
Now I'm no theologian or prophet, but I predict that when this lion arises and frees itself from it's judaized hiearchy, the very foundation of World Jewry will quake...Yes it's true, and must be repeated. When the Catholic Church is strong, Jewry is weak, and when Jewry is strong, the Catholic Church is weak.
Regards, vytis
'The Armour of God Begins with Truth'
2005-02-01 22:36 | User Profile
By "Traditional Catholic" are you referring sedevacantist groups? Are you familiar with Robert Sungenis ( [url="http://www.catholicintl.com/"]http://www.catholicintl.com/[/url] )? You might to check out his website. He has been disowned by all of his former apologist colleagues at Catholic Answers, EWTN, et al., because of his emerging criticism of Jews. Interestingly, they didn't disown him when he joined the traditional movement. Mainstream Catholic groups, specifically Catholic Answers ( [url="http://www.catholicanswers.org/"]http://www.catholicanswers.org[/url] ), are Jew ass-kissers. On the next Catholic Answers apologist cruise Michael Medved will be part of the group (an Orthodox Jew neo-con).
Btw, I'm part of the "child-molesting" Catholic Church you refer to. But let me point out that with such rhetoric you have been a useful goyim tool of the Christ-killers. Just remember, liberal estimates put the number of priests accused of molestation at 2% (2% too high, of course). Be aware that many of these cases involve homosexuality and teen-aged males. Now in the much celebrated Paul Shanley case on trial now in Boston we have seen all but one of the victims say they cannot testify under oath that the abuse even occurred. I don't dismiss this as the consequence of using "recovered memory" therapy, just the lure of easy money from an organization with deep pockets. Working-class folks are willing to drive trucks on highways in Iraq for $80k, what do you think they'd say when the prospect of millions of dollars is easily attainable? There are alot of bad priests, many of them homosexual, but I still believe it's a relatively small percentage. Think of some of these recent pharmaceutical recalls. From the news you'd get the impression that this or that prescription drug is responsible for the deaths of a statistically significant number of users. Then you see out of the millions taking it five people in poor health might have died from using it in conjunction with previous health problems.
I think guys like Shanley are guilty. It would be my wish to have these priests who've brought such scandal upon the Church of Rome to be dowsed with gasoline and set ablaze. And I say this not merely because I have a thirteenth-century mindset but because she is humankind's last hope.
2005-02-02 00:00 | User Profile
JC. I'm not referring to the sedevacantist groups or any other group. Nor do I belong to any.
I'm talking about the revived/renewed Catholic Church Militant, whatever you think that title infers.
By the way thanks for the 'goyim tool of the Christ-killers' remark...If you think that speaking out against child molestation in the church places me in that category....So be it.
2005-02-02 05:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=vytis]JC. I'm not referring to the sedevacantist groups or any other group. Nor do I belong to any.
I'm talking about the revived/renewed Catholic Church Militant, whatever you think that title infers.
By the way thanks for the 'goyim tool of the Christ-killers' remark...If you think that speaking out against child molestation in the church places me in that category....So be it.[/QUOTE] I don't think it is helpful to perpetuate a caricature of a scandal within Ecclesia Sancta Mater. The Church of Rome has always had scandal within her ranks, even rampant licentiousness, just read St. Catherine of Siena of it in her day. But unlike the Middle Ages, the Church has never had more non-hostile enemies from without than it has today.
2005-02-02 06:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=vytis]I read the Bible cover-to-cover numerous times. Worshipped in Protestant churches, was baptized, and spent many many hours sitting under the preaching of Baptist & Pentecostal preachers....I learned first hand what the Bible meant where it declares that God is not the author of confusion. But some preachers did a good job of it....So I left! (I say this w/o malice)
I don't consider the numerous protestant denominations to be an example of confusion, just simply an example of churches that aren't under the same human governance.
I continued my spiritual odyssey in spite of my disappointment, and slowly began to learn another great truth....Jews fear only one visible church/organization on this planet...The Traditional Catholic Church.[/QUOTE]
Granted, Jews don't have much to fear from most modern Protestant denominations.
2005-02-02 12:36 | User Profile
[B][I] - "Granted, Jews don't have much to fear from most modern Protestant denominations."[/I][/B]
But they do remain suspicious. No matter how completely they think - [I]we[/I] think - that they have dispensationalists on their side, they are still racked by fear that some day dispies will be on to them and turn against them with a fury of a deceived lover:
(A "Jerusalem Report" article, written in the aftermath of Mel Gibson's "Passion" release, witness some primal Jewish fear of Christianity:
[url]http://www.jrep.com/Columnists/Article-66.html[/url]
(btw, I think its writer, David Horovitz, is a different person than FrontPage's David Horowitz)
[COLOR=Indigo][SIZE=3][B]"The Walls Are Closing In"[/B][/SIZE]
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"Surveys show high proportions of viewers emerging from the torture -- the teenage black girl three seats along jerked involuntarily and wailed out loud as the nails were pounded through gristle and flesh -- to insist that nothing they had seen affected their attitudes to Jews. As an American Jewish friend observed wryly and anxiously, "That can only make you wonder what they thought of us beforehand." [B]And the lack of condemnation from Israel’s would-be allies in the Christian evangelical movements of Gibson’s malevolently selective use of sources can only reinforce longstanding doubts about the wisdom of such alliances[/B]."[/COLOR]
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2005-02-02 14:08 | User Profile
I knew this post would be controversial, and I held off for some time before posting it. But I felt it had to be said, consider it a plea for unity.
A splintered and divided people pose no threat whatsoever to World Jewry, the historic enemy of Christ and the White race. While on the other hand, a real or imagined unity in their opposition terrifies them. Why do you think they spend so much time. energy, and money to spread their spiritual and racial poison?
Unfortunately for us, our continual in-fighting, name-calling, and hair-splitting (religious & racial organizations), only produces a squirrell-cage type activity, which actually emboldens Jews to step-up even more their daily assault on our spiritual and racial Heritage.
Can they be neutralized? Certainly. But first we absolutely must unite on common spiritual ground, under a common banner. That common spiritual ground will be; must be, Jesus Christ........And the only visible Christian church/organization on this earth that Jews fear. The Traditional Catholic Church.
Like it or not this is our only option, or remain under the Jewish yoke....Then Jewish hegemony remains in force. Please think about it. Who else gains the most from our racial and spiritual divisions other than Jewry? Who comes out on top if we don't get our act together?
For those of you who have a little smirk on your face right now I'll repeat this again before I close...Jesus Christ and the Traditional Catholic Church must be our common spiritual ground: or racial unity ain't gonna happen. Period!
vytis
2005-02-02 16:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=vytis]JC. I'm not referring to the sedevacantist groups or any other group. Nor do I belong to any.
I'm talking about the revived/renewed Catholic Church Militant, whatever you think that title infers. Vytis, Do you go to a SSPX parish, or are you affiliated with any traditionalist groups? If you're not a sedevacantist, what is your opinion on the Papacy, and the validity of Vatican II?
[quote=vytis]By the way thanks for the 'goyim tool of the Christ-killers' remark...If you think that speaking out against child molestation in the church places me in that category....So be it.[/QUOTE] I don't think Jack means that you shouldn't be outraged about the scandal, or that you shouldn't speak out against those responsible. I think he means that while the Church is in desperate need of constructive criticism, it already has plenty of attackers.
2005-02-02 16:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr] - "Granted, Jews don't have much to fear from most modern Protestant denominations."
But they do remain suspicious. No matter how completely they think - we think - that they have dispensationalists on their side, they are still racked by fear that some day dispies will be on to them and turn against them with a fury of a deceived lover:
(A "Jerusalem Report" article, written in the aftermath of Mel Gibson's "Passion" release, witness some primal Jewish fear of Christianity:
[url="http://www.jrep.com/Columnists/Article-66.html"]http://www.jrep.com/Columnists/Article-66.html[/url]
(btw, I think its writer, David Horovitz, is a different person than FrontPage's David Horowitz)
[color=indigo][size=3]"The Walls Are Closing In"[/size]
...
"Surveys show high proportions of viewers emerging from the torture -- the teenage black girl three seats along jerked involuntarily and wailed out loud as the nails were pounded through gristle and flesh -- to insist that nothing they had seen affected their attitudes to Jews. As an American Jewish friend observed wryly and anxiously, "That can only make you wonder what they thought of us beforehand." And the lack of condemnation from Israelââ¬â¢s would-be allies in the Christian evangelical movements of Gibsonââ¬â¢s malevolently selective use of sources can only reinforce longstanding doubts about the wisdom of such alliances."[/color]
...[/QUOTE] I think they (Jews) fear the Catholic Church not only because it is five times larger than all 40,000+ Protestant denominations together, or four times larger than the Orthodox Church, but because the only intellectual elites who believe in Christianity are either within the Catholic Church or on their way toward it (this includes alot of Protestants who currently view themselves as Protestants in good standing). The one exception could've been that great English Protestant mind, Malcolm Muggeridge, who actually gave a talk in the latter part of his life, titled, "Why I am not a Roman Catholic". But this example fails given that Muggeridge converted to Catholicism within a decade of giving this talk.
2005-02-02 18:23 | User Profile
Quantrill,
As I stated to Jack Cassidy, I am not now, and never have been associated with any Traditional Catholic groups...Nor do I attend a TC parish. When and if we establish one in this area I will be involved, I can assure you.
On Vatican II. My Catholicism antedates and negates Vatican II and the authority of any contemporary church official; be they parish priest or pope.
As for the comment by Jack...I certainly have no hard feelings about it.
It does bother me though that believers in Christ, dare I say brothers & sisters in Christ, continue to be divided by denominational barriers.
2005-02-02 19:42 | User Profile
Good thread here, people.
Sadly, it seems many racialists from William Pierce to Kevin Strom to David Duke appear to be irreligious at best, and outright hostile to Christianity at worst. As Vytis mentioned, this deprives them of the one organization that poses that potential for counterbalancing and in fact overwhelming Jewish organization and cooperation.
Jews have not been a problem historically, only since the twin catastrophes of the Reformation and the French Revolution. That is when their true emancipation occurred. They arose only because the Church collapsed.
What we need is a great saint, perhaps a Pope, to give us leadership.
Another good step might be to beatify Marcel Lefebvre, but that will certainly not occur under this pope.
2005-02-06 13:42 | User Profile
Well said Buster. Prior to the Reformation (Needed reformed/Not divided) and the French (Jew) Revolution, the Catholic Church did indeed keep the demon genie of World Jewry on a short leash.
A cleansed and revived church will once again reinstitute it's long dormant, but soon to be very powerful militant wing, and put the genie back where it came from...This militant wing will surely give a whole new meaning to the 'Onward Christian Soldiers' hymn.
2005-02-08 03:20 | User Profile
It's true enough indeed that the only way to effectively counter evil is for God's people to reunite as one.
Now, I am a traditionalist Catholic. I still say Extreme Unction and Penance instead of Last Rites and Reconciliation. I don't like Vatican II one bit, and I consider its motives suspect and its outcome dubious (if not diabolical). That does not mean that I leave the Church and start a new one.
To support that last sentence, recall what Jesus said to his critics the Pharisees (or Sadducees, as was probably more the case): "I have not come to break the law, but to complete it". People within the Church might do some stupid things, but you don't turn your back on her. She has divine as well as human aspects; the stupid things the human part does are always counter-acted by the divine. Look at the natural corrections that have occurred in many places regarding the abuses of Vatican II; a resurgence of the Tridantine Rite Mass, renewed and strengthened devotion to the Blessed Mother, a new movement among the young generation (my generation) that desires traditional teachings, liturgies, morality.
As a famous Cardinal once said (whose name and the specific situation I fail to recall), "No one will destroy the Church. We've been trying to do that for two thousand years with all of our combined human folly, and we've failed. The Divine Prescence is too great". (Something to that effect).
2005-02-08 04:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Sadly, it seems many racialists from William Pierce to Kevin Strom to [B]David Duke [/B] [/QUOTE]
Pierce and Strom are pagans (Cosmotheists).
Duke is a Christian. Don't know why you'd say Duke is irreligious.
Walter
2005-02-08 12:24 | User Profile
Walter,
Because of the reason you stated, I withdrew my membership from the National Alliance years ago.
On David Duke. Everything I read on DD, and by DD, I really believe he is a Christian, and have learned a great deal from his writings on the Jewish Question.
2005-02-08 12:35 | User Profile
Little boys have plently to fear from the Catholic Church. :wink:
How can you trust a church that won't permit men to marry?
2005-02-08 14:16 | User Profile
Gabrielle,
Please. Let those (denominations) who are without sin cast the first stone... :rolleyes:
2005-02-08 14:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=vytis]Gabrielle,
Please. Let those (denominations) who are without sin cast the first stone... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
How can you trust a church that won't permit men to marry? LOL! :wink:
2005-02-08 14:42 | User Profile
Walter Yannis,
I would not call Pierce and Strom pagans. I think the "Cosmotheist" Church was a try at getting around the IRS. Also I do not think it could be called pagan, because it is not based on a pre-christian folk religion. Many of the so-called "pagans" who claim to be based on pre-christian folk religion are sexperverts or marxist looking to build a front group.
Roman Church is a almost hopeless mess.
2005-02-08 15:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]How can you trust a church that won't permit men to marry? LOL! :wink:[/QUOTE]
There are lots of married Catholic men, including me. What are you talking about?
I take it that you mean priestly celibacy. But Christ Himself was celibate, as was St. Paul, who clearly saw celibacy as preferable, at least for clergy like him.
[QUOTE]1 Corinthians 7: 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. [B]7For I would that all men were even as I myself. [/B] But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. [/QUOTE]
The celibate priesthood shows up in Revelation:
[QUOTE]Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.[/QUOTE]
The celibate vocation definitely exists. There's cause for reasoned debate as to what its boundaries should be. But there's no doubt Scripturally speaking it is ordained by God for some.
2005-02-08 16:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Walter Yannis,
I would not call Pierce and Strom pagans. I think the "Cosmotheist" Church was a try at getting around the IRS. Also I do not think it could be called pagan, because it is not based on a pre-christian folk religion. Many of the so-called "pagans" who claim to be based on pre-christian folk religion are sexperverts or marxist looking to build a front group.
Roman Church is a almost hopeless mess.[/QUOTE]
Cosmotheism teaches that the Cosmos is God.
Cosmos = Theos.
It is therefore the very essence of paganism.
Agree that the Roman Catholic Church is a total mess and in need of a major purge.
2005-02-08 17:09 | User Profile
Faust. Whether the National Alliance is pagan or atheist the organization still has a strong anti-Christian bias.
Walter Yannis. Thank you!!!! :thumbsup: