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2002-07-11 09:09 | User Profile
[url=http://www.originaldissent.com/dtp071002.html]The Battle for the Soul of the Republican Party[/url]
by David T. Pyne
It's primary season again and all across the country, there is a war being fought between the candidates of the Liberal Republican Establishment and the principled champions of the conservative grassroots members of the Republican Party who form its base. This conservative Republican base is responsible for every one of the nationwide victories of the Republican Party in recent memory most notably the 1994 GOP landslide that swept Republican majorities into Congress. It continues to rebel against many of the moderate to very liberal candidates that are regularly foisted on it by an increasingly liberal Republican Establishment disconnected from the Party's grassroots membership. It is this Republican Party conservative base that is responsible for transforming it from a minority party during the 1950s-1980s into the majority governing party it has become today.
These battles are being fought in the individual Congressional and gubernatorial races where conservative insurgents are battling often more established center-left establishment candidates. The California gubernatorial primary this past March was the scene of one of the biggest battles between the conservative and liberals in the Republican Party as former LA Mayor Richard Riordan, a Republican-In-Name-Only (RINO) somewhat to the left of Bill Clinton on social issues like abortion and gay rights faced moderate conservative Bill Simon for the GOP nomination for governor of California. Riordan had been all but anointed as the GOP gubernatorial nominee by the Bush Administration. In fact, he was personally recruited to run against two much more conservative primary contenders by President Bush himself. However, Simon pulled off a remarkable upset and won the primary against Riordan by a large margin.
Only last year, Bush and his top aides successfully and stealthily championed the appointment of liberal pro-abortion supporter Gerald Parsky as the de-facto chairman of the California State Republican Party in a bid to remake the California Republican Party in the Democrat Party's liberal image in order to make it more electable. They succeeded and the California State Republican Party, previously one of the most conservative in the country is now under the de facto control of a man who has savaged all pro-life Republicans - including GOP gubernatorial nominee Bill Simon - as extremist. What's worse, Parsky has stated that he will sit out the election even though Bill Simon is leading California's vulnerable Governor Gray Davis by as much as nine percentage points in a state that has been morphed by illegal immigration into a Democrat electoral stronghold. This massive rift between the Bush- championed liberal leadership of the California Republican Party and the Party's grassroots led by Bill Simon threatens to abort the chances of a GOP victory in November against liberal Democrat Gray Davis.
There are other examples of the Liberal Republican Establishment's support of moderates and liberals against solid conservatives. President Bush recruited pro-abortion center-lefter Elizabeth Dole to run for US Senator from North Carolina against former Senator Lauch Faircloth, one of the most conservative Senators in recent memory. Senator Faircloth had contributed a great deal of his time and money get Bush elected President and promised to spend millions of dollars of his own personal fortune to get re-elected to the Senate, but who has since abandoned the race in disgust at being stabbed in the back by the man whose election he had worked so hard to champion. Bush's recruitment of mushy moderate Lamar Alexander to run for US Senate against conservative House Impeachment Manager Ed Bryant is yet another example. The White House's philosophy in backing liberals against their conservative opponents seems to be that the best strategy for getting Republicans elected is for GOP candidates to abandon conservative principles. The White House also selected a pro-abortion center-lefter Marc Racicot to replace moderate conservative pro-lifer Jim Gilmore as RNC Chairman and championed the appointment of a liberal pro-abortion RNC Finance Chairman.
However, perhaps the most vivid current example of the ongoing war between the Republican left and right is the New Hampshire Republican Senate primary where Senator Robert Smith, who during his 12 years in the US Senate has amassed a record easily besting Jesse Helms as the most conservative member of the United States Senate, is under siege by a man who can only be described as a young "mushy moderate" upstart, Rep. John Sununu, Jr. This is by far the most interesting GOP primary race in that Smith, a Senate incumbent so staunchly conservative that he briefly left the Republican Party denouncing it for abandoning conservative principles, is facing a moderate Congressman who is the son of former Governor and Chief of Staff to President George HW Bush, John Sununu, a man who is the very definition of political centrism and political pragmatism.
Unlike Smith, who was rated among the top three conservatives in the US Senate during the current congressional session by the New American magazine's Conservative Index, Sununu was ranked well below the House GOP average with a positively anemic Conservative Index of only 40%. Sununu, who is of Arab descent, supports the establishment of a Palestinian state and has received the financial backing of militant Islamic groups in the US. Sununu also voted in favor of President Bush's proposed amnesty of two million illegal aliens, which passed the House by a one-vote margin, but was defeated in the Senate thanks to the venerable Senate President Pro-Tem Robert Byrd, a Democrat who is well to the right of both President Bush and Sununu on the issue of immigration.
After initially backing Senator Smith for re-election last year, the White House has shifted to a stance of official neutrality even as Sununu continues to receive endorsements from icons of the Republican left including liberal former Senator Warren Rudman and liberal White House Chief of Staff Andy Card. It was Card who recently warned of the threat from mushy moderate Bush advisor Karl Rove, the chief architect of Bush's liberal GOP candidate recruitment strategy, whom he mistakenly identified as a "conservative". The Sununu decision to challenge the most conservative member of the US Senate, Senator Robert Smith, seems likely to make this a bloody primary which will greatly increase the chances at getting the Democrat candidate elected as many of the supporters of the defeated primary candidate, whoever that may be, sit out the election in protest.
I hereby urge all conservative Republicans to unite in support of their respective conservative primary contenders and take a stand against the White House's attempt to defeat solid pro- life conservatives with their own hand-picked center-left candidates in the GOP primaries. Abandonment of conservative principles and recruitment of liberal and often abortion- supporting candidates will not win elections for the GOP. Instead it will only serve to transform the GOP into a virtual clone of the Democrat Party destined for minority party status and thereby stymie the conservative agenda for years to come.
é 2002 David T. Pyne July 10, 2002
David T. Pyne, Esq. is a national security expert who works as an International Programs Manager in the Department of the Army responsible for the countries of the former Soviet Union and the Middle East among others. He is also a licensed attorney and former Army Reserve Officer. In addition, he holds an MA in National Security Studies from Georgetown University. Mr. Pyne currently serves as Executive Vice President of the Virginia Republican Assembly. He is also a member of the Center for Emerging National Security Affairs based in Washington, D.C. Mr. Pyne serves as a columnist for OpinioNet.com, American-Partisan.com and America's Voices. He is also a regular contributor for Patriotist.com. In addition, his articles have appeared on Etherzone.com, Sierratimes.com, OriginalDissent.com and AmericanReformation.org where he serves as a national security policy analyst.
2002-07-11 11:26 | User Profile
Instead it will only serve to transform the GOP into a virtual clone of the Democrat Party destined for minority party status and thereby stymie the conservative agenda for years to come.
IMHO, the Rebublican Party leadership thinks, given in inevitability of mass 3rd world immigration to this country, that it is the conservative agenda that will relegate it to permanent minority status in the near future. And they may be right. The "consevative agenda" is highly culturally specific; it is an expression of an historically unique, non-socialist, Christian, European civilization that is not readily generalizable. To save that civilization, we need to slam the door shut on incompatable immigrants, and that doesn't look like it is going to happen any time soon enough.
2002-07-11 14:27 | User Profile
The Republican Party is finished. With the defeat of Buchanan and the true conservatives, the Trotskyites in the Republican Party are driving the conservative remnants out.
2002-07-11 16:10 | User Profile
Originally posted by Dano@Jul 11 2002, 11:26 > Instead it will only serve to transform the GOP into a virtual clone of the Democrat Party destined for minority party status and thereby stymie the conservative agenda for years to come.**
IMHO, the Rebublican Party leadership thinks, given in inevitability of mass 3rd world immigration to this country, that it is the conservative agenda that will relegate it to permanent minority status in the near future. And they may be right. The "conservative agenda" is highly culturally specific; it is an expression of an historically unique, non-socialist, Christian, European civilization that is not readily generalizable. To save that civilization, we need to slam the door shut on incompatable immigrants, and that doesn't look like it is going to happen any time soon enough.**
Your quite right about "the conservative agenda" and the Republican party on which it is based being dependent on a uniquely Western set of values, values that are incompatible with multicultural politics (which is now the province of the Democratic Party). IMO the GOP leaderships goal seems to be to embrace this multicultural politics on the left, while simultaneously ensuring no competing rightwing multiculturalism (re: the dreaded "identity politics for white people" of Buchanan all the neo-cons like Ponnuru, Jim Robinson, etc. constantly bandy about) emerges, by saying supporting the GOP, whatever its policies are, is middle America's only option. Not surprisingly this course of politics becomes increasingly authoritarianand undemocratic, as FR with its Kommissars and Fuhrer Jim is a living incarnation of.
Kevin McDonald's comments are prescient
**The ideology of minority group ethnic separatism and the implicit legitimization of group competition for resources, as well as the more modern idea that ethnic group membership should be the criteria for resource acquisition, must be seen for what they are: blueprints for evolutionary group strategies. The history of the Jews must be seen as a rather tragic commentary on the results of such group strategies.
The importance of group-based competition cannot be overstated. I believe it is highly unlikely that Western societies based on individualism and democracy can long survive the legitimization of competition between impermeable groups in which group membership is determined by ethnicity. The discussion in SAID suggests that ultimately group strategies are met by group strategies, and that societies become organized around cohesive, mutually exclusionary groups. Indeed, the recent multicultural movement may be viewed as heading toward a profoundly non-Western form of social organization that has historically been much more typical of middle eastern segmentary societies centered around discrete homogeneous groups. However, unlike in the multicultural (and democratic) ideal, in these societies there are pronounced relations of dominance and submission. **
2002-07-11 17:49 | User Profile
The only use I can see for the Stupid Party is to use its primary system as a stage for agitation. I hope Tancredo will consider it too. It's not to early for some political appearances in Iowa. Unless he trims his sails on immigration he's going to find he can't get much done sitting where he does now.
2002-07-12 22:59 | User Profile
Fliegende Hollander:
Yes not much good left in the Stupid Party. "The only use I can see for the Stupid Party is to use its primary system as a stage for agitation. I hope Tancredo will consider it too. It's not to early for some political appearances in Iowa. Unless he trims his sails on immigration he's going to find he can't get much done sitting where he does now."
wbr:
You ar very Right!
"The Republican Party is finished. With the defeat of Buchanan and the true conservatives, the Trotskyites in the Republican Party are driving the conservative remnants out."
2002-07-12 23:37 | User Profile
Originally posted by wbr@Jul 11 2002, 09:27 The Republican Party is finished. With the defeat of Buchanan and the true conservatives, the Trotskyites in the Republican Party are driving the conservative remnants out.
I agree with this, wbr.
That is why it is so important that true conservatives in all the various factions, splinter groups, etc. find some kind of commonality or common banner to rally behind so a challenge can be made to the GOP. Right now I see nothing on the horizon, unfortunately.
2002-07-26 15:44 | User Profile
I do not see where the Republican party does not mirror the Democratic Party. Our borders are flung wide open for anyone from 3rd world nations to enter at will--and even against will. Look at how we are financially supporting refugees in Ethiopia to migrate to heartland Kansa en mass, as featured on 60 minutes. Somalians have been entering the USA en mass for several years and are being given very high paying jobs and administrative duties in civil servant positions on military bases. They don't even have to look for any jobs.
Lip service is all we get from the Republicans on the abortion issue--no action of any kind.
Sin taxes have increased since Bush has gotten into office which effects the price of everything--but also decreases government revenue. However, it does increase the crime rate and this makes those in the criminal justice system very happy indeed.
Has Bush done anything about affirmative action and minority set aside quotas (affirmative action is actually worse than quotas)? One could say--and should say--that the republican party is the party for affirmative action. During Bush's primary where Colin Powell made a speech for afirmative action, all of the delegates were forbidden to boo him.
The Libertarian Party was set up to appease real conservatives and to keep its numbers low so as to appease both the republican and democratic parties. I know that this party is headed by Israel, and they are doing a wonderful job of culling out those who could make a difference and say the right and honest things that needs to be said on the mass media. There is no one or any party for anyone to turn to. Look how easy it was for the media to slam Pat Buchanon and all that he stood for. It made Robert Novak's job easy.
2002-08-01 15:01 | User Profile
The Republican Party is all but dead. In all likelihood the Democrats will regain control of the House in 2002 and the White House in 2004. Bush and 911 have already laid the groundwork for a totalitarian state, the Democrats are ready to pick up the ball and run with it.
Welcome to hard times, America.
-Z-
2002-08-01 15:27 | User Profile
I still do not see where it matters which of the two major parties get voted in to whater position. Israel runs and owns this country lock, stock and barrel. Just ask Alan Greenspan--maybe he will mumble this fact to you chuckeling all the way to the federal reserve.
2002-08-02 20:32 | User Profile
It was only two years ago that we witnessed the greatest electoral debacle in memory. Eight years of the Democrats has somehow morphed into tow more years of the Republicans accelerating the Democratic agenda. Bush and the boyz are most easily described as "Democrats on Steroids".
It won't make a difference which way we vote. As long as we permit the continuation of every possible constitutional transgression, never mind the recent rewrite by the executive of the Bill of Rights, we merely change the label of the servants turned masters.
To place power in the hands of self-serving politicians, whatever their label, is for us citizenry, the height of folly.
Register but don't vote.
I believe that two years ago 60% of those eligible to vote chose not to. Shouldn't all those who profess to democracy pay some heed?
Like, go away...
2002-08-03 09:03 | User Profile
Originally posted by LoneWolf@Aug 2 2002, 15:32 **To place power in the hands of self-serving politicians, whatever their label, is for us citizenry, the height of folly. **
Excellent comments, LoneWolf, and ones that I agree with. Unfortunately, these same politicians have got most decent folks running around so busy tryin' to keep up and make ends meet, they just don't have the time to stay informed like they should. Even though most of us here tend to view our social and political problems through an ideological or cultural lens, we should keep in mind that the economics of personal or family budgeting is where the rubber meets the road for most everyone, and therefore try to tailor any message we may attempt to get out along those lines. The higher cause is the noble one, for sure, but paying that mortgage every month is a constant and jealous attention getter.
2002-08-03 12:51 | User Profile
Originally posted by LoneWolf@Aug 2 2002, 16:32 Register but don't vote.
I guess in some states that's the only answer. One thing we have here though is a very good Right To Life Party, which was able to resist a takeover a few years back, and can be counted on to only endorse worthwhile candidates. I almost always have someone to vote for, and never miss a chance to vote.
2002-08-03 16:34 | User Profile
Following my last comment I gave the matter some more thought. Two years ago I made my recommendations on FreeRepublic in bits and pieces. I'll now present my 8 point plan in toto.
In spite of the evidence I still believe that Americans can resume control of the reigns of their own power through non-violent means.
Perhaps I'm deluding myself. After all for the many years I've been watching the political scene hope has not shone in too many places.
For my personal sanity I continue to believe, if only because I think God designed this world for progress, not debasement.
Anyway, setting personal philosophy aside I have developed a few recommendations to those whose conscience will not permit them to vote for didlee-dee nor didlee-dum.
Non-violence is at the core of all my modest proposals.
1) Register
2) Do not attend any political fund-raisers, speeches, or other politically related gatherings. Instead, order pizza, drink beer and watch football. Avoid CNN.
3) If anyone comes to the door to solicit your vote, invite them in, offer them pizza and beer, maybe turn down the game announcers and tell your guests why they should also abstain from politics. Convince even one of these poor mis-guided but well-meaning party members to drop out and you've moved the old cause one step forward.
4) Ignore all well-dressed smiling people who are shaking hands and kissing babies. Walk in the opposite direction. Take as many people with you as you can. It's for their own good. The more these back thumpers are isolated the sooner the nation will heal.
5) Buy a deer rifle. Buy two. Buy as many as you can. Have all your neighbours do the same. Store them in closets or in the attic, even under the kitchen sink if you run out of room. The more we buy the better.
I don't recommend you use them (remember:non-violence). However if Mr. Ashcroft gets wind of the fact that deer rifle sales are at an all time high he may think twice about his views on posse comitatus. In fact I think a whole lotta chicken-hawks might catch the scent.
6) Don't Vote
7) When the election is over contact every media outlet that comes to mind and ask them how many people didn't vote. Make THAT the focus of the election. Because, in a democracy, the majority rules (not necessarily my political philosophy). And if that's the case then someone should point out the obvious...the majority of us just want to be left alone without finding treads on our backs.
8) With all the extra time you have on your hands once you are apolitical, get familiar with the Tax Revenue code (visit [url=http://taxableincome.net)]http://taxableincome.net)[/url] and quit paying taxes on your domestic income. Ask for refunds. It's your money. Quit financing the war-mongering gladhanders.
Anyone who can contribute to the list is welcome to do so.
I'm not hardheaded on 8 points. 9 points would be ok, but I have to draw the line at 10 points. Like the Ten Commandments. Or the original Bill of Rights. Anyone remember them?
[color=red]Ignore 'em![/color]
2003-08-05 05:07 | User Profile
Originally posted by wbr@Jul 11 2002, 08:27 * The Republican Party is finished. With the defeat of Buchanan and the true conservatives, the Trotskyites in the Republican Party are driving the conservative remnants out.*
The Neo-Cons are but Wall Street Trotskyites. The Jewish Agenda is well known--but there is an alarming propensity among deracinated WASPs and other shabbos collaborators to see Thirdworldization as a plutocratic paradise.
They may envision haciendas, hammocks and pitchersful of Mai-Tais. We must introduce them to the fact that if they betray the West now, their fate is that of the Mastodons. :ph34r:
2003-09-03 03:34 | User Profile
[url=http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/lincoln-arch.html]This site is about Lincoln and the real desires of the republican party[/url]
I find the thought of a republican party for states rights or the individual soverenty of anything other than the federal government to be quaint thinking at best. The republican party from its beginning has always been about the power and ideal of the federal state. They have only used the states rights isues as vote attraction issues. The differance between the republicans and democrats is that the republicans are for world domination through a capitalist merchantile american dominated empire. The said empire to be based on a facist / capitalist state. ( Hitler proved how wonderfully this would work.) The only differance is it will be Americanized.
The democrats are for world zionism through socialization and communisim. The democrats want the power elite to be of the united nations and the United States to be deconstructed to no more than a region of the world governed body. They totally and unconditionally worship any form of communist revolution they can spread to the useful idiots of America. They have taken over most of the state learning institutions and are openly attemting to undermine the republicanization of the world through the dumbing down and social institutionalization of the next generation.
This educational practice is true to communist form and is forcing the republican party to do something they truely do not want to do, school vouchers. You must look at it with the thought of the republican party as an american empire builder. They want a federal school system and they want a good one that creates a better empire. The democrats have almost destroyed two whole generations of american minds that are needed to further the republican empire. There are two major options for them, fix it from the inside through federal instituted testing or privatization of the system. The end result will be a better over all education for the children of today and of the next few generations.
The issue of the Neo-cons is a very jewish one. The biggest problem with most adult Americans is that they don't want to look at the race problem in the country. I say this because I was one of these people until about 10 years ago. I was raised by two very liberal people that said jewish people are just a differant religion and are not a differant race. This of course was a lie that they had decieved themseves into believing. The Neo-cons are for the jews and only for what will be best for the jewish agenda in this country and Israel. Yes they talk conservative sometimes but this is just to make the moderate conservatives who out number the true conservatives, feel more comfortable so they will go along with the neo-con agenda.
The republicans have always held the jewish elite in this country at arms length and have never truely needed thier money or influence. The neo-cons are a complete change in the makeup of power in the republican party. This is compassionate / socialist conservatisim and it is totally jew inspired. What happened is the jews realised that thier team was on the loosing side and they needed some people on the inside of the winning team. They found what they would call conservative jews and had them placed inside the winning team.
Think of who really wins if this administration wins or loses. If the war goes well and the economy picks up, the neo-cons win. ( jews ) If the war goes very bad and the economy goes bad, the democrats win. ( jews ) The jews have forgot only one aspect of this and that is they have now openly exposed themselves to the true conservatives of the party and if they fail these true conservatives they will have proved all the jewish theorys true and become outcast from the party. The sad part is what to wish for?
I am a True Conservative and an American not a republican although I have voted for them on many occations. I have also voted against them on some occations. Never have I voted for a democrat. ( Amen )
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2005-01-14 16:45 | User Profile
[COLOR=DarkGreen]Hello,[/COLOR]
[COLOR=DarkGreen]Tha Republican party 'soul' is won by NeoCons in all their ways. Even tha religious-right/Evengelical types.What will those towin tha Old Line do? Perhaps join tha Reform Party? Libertarians? Go to tha Democratic Party?[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]You could try schoolin tha people on whats really goin on. They dont understand. Plus M.tv says your out-dated. [/COLOR]
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