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Prince Harry to be sent to Auschwitz.

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Faust [OP]

2005-01-14 17:37 | User Profile

Prince Harry to be sent to Auschwitz.

[url]http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=411983[/url]

Prince Harry's Nazi Costume Criticized

[url]http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=408901[/url]

Harry Starts Fascist Fashion Craze

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Quantrill

2005-01-14 17:43 | User Profile

I wonder what the response would have been if he had simply worn a Soviet uniform? Or that of an Ottoman Turk? Or the Imperial Japanese? Actually, there is no need to wonder. Nobody would have given it a second thought.


xmetalhead

2005-01-14 18:16 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Prince Harry to be sent to Auschwitz.[/QUOTE]

How ironic sounding. Are they gonna retrofit the place to resume it's production?? Is Harry gonna be the first to be processed, followed by LePen and Nick Griffin? Unreal.


Ponce

2005-01-14 19:00 | User Profile

Poor kid, that would be a hell of a punishment but that would make him a heck of a good anti-Zionist...... if he wasen't one before.

"The Jews had no enemys but instead created their own enemys",,, Ponce


vytis

2005-01-14 20:19 | User Profile

Now the call has come out from the Simon Wiesenthal Center for Prince Harry to go to Auschwitz, to ATONE for wearing the dreaded Nazi uniform.

Yes, you read it right...Atone.

Unbelievable! I must say it again...Jews truly are the race that nauseates!


Bardamu

2005-01-14 20:30 | User Profile

[QUOTE=vytis] Unbelievable! I must say it again...Jews truly are the race that nauseates![/QUOTE]

So true.


RowdyRoddyPiper

2005-01-15 01:19 | User Profile

One of the most annoying things about this whole thing is that the worst of all possible motives have been imputed to Prince Harry's choice of this costume, and rather than defend himself, he has followed the usual well-travelled and craven route of the immediate back-down and profuse apology.

Wearing the native costume of a foreign army, nation or ethnic group can have a number of meanings. It's a very ambiguous signal.

For example, it could mean any of the following things:

  1. Mockery of the vanquished by the victor by wearing a parody of his dress. This is why Native Americans get offended by white people dressing up as "Injuns", for example as football team mascots.

  2. Solidarity with a group by wearing their uniform insignia. The "obvious" one.

  3. Defiant parody of an "oppressor" by the "oppressed" (sorry for the lefty terminology, but bear with me). Think of those racially charged skits where black comedians (e.g. Dave Chapelle) dress up as Klansmen to try and undermine the symbolic power of the Klan costume.

  4. Alternatively, it could have no meaning.

Because of the fact that Jews were victims of Nazis, they immediately leap to the conclusion that it's 2, when it's most likely either 1 or 4. They don't seem to "get" that many Brits love to lord it over the Germans by mocking their accents, their "lack of a sense of humour", and ridiculing Nazism generally with skits such as Fawlty Tower's "don't mention the war" and the usual "ve ask zee qvestions" Gestapo impersonations.

What irks me most is that what ends up being the socially accepted "meaning" of this ambiguous signal is the Jewish one. It's simply deemed irrelevant what was intended by the wearer. And they don't even try to stand up for what "their" meaning is. It's just accepted that Jews "own" Nazi symbology, and it means whatever they want it to mean.

[QUOTE]When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone,it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'[/QUOTE]

The battle to control symbolic meanings (which is really a battle for the control of a culture) is conceded without a fight.


Quantrill

2005-01-15 01:21 | User Profile

[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper] The battle to control symbolic meanings (which is really a battle for the control of a culture) is conceded without a fight.[/QUOTE] Well-stated. :thumbsup: