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Thread ID: 16267 | Posts: 52 | Started: 2005-01-11
2005-01-11 17:43 | User Profile
[I]This Jewish man wants YOU, White man, in your place. He's done it already and he's looking for more White men to occupy jail cells. Ask David Duke, Matt Hale, Ernest Zundel among others.[/I]
[B]Bush names new US security chief
Chertoff was central in shaping the Bush terror strategy [/B]
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US President George Bush has nominated Michael Chertoff, a federal appeals judge, as his next secretary of homeland security. He has played a key part in the Bush administration's "war on terror" strategy, correspondents say.
Ex-police commissioner Bernard Kerik withdrew his name for the post last month because of questions over the immigration status of his housekeeper.
Mr Chertoff's nomination must be approved by the US Senate.
Announcing his choice at the White House, Mr Bush praised his new nominee.
"When Mike is confirmed by the Senate, the Department of Homeland Security will be led by a practical organiser, a skilled manager and a brilliant thinker," he said.
"In the days after 11 September [2001], Mike helped trace the terrorist attacks to the al-Qaeda network. He understood immediately that the strategy in the war on terror is to prevent attacks before they occur," he said.
Mr Chertoff said that, if confirmed, he would "devote all my energy to promoting our homeland security and, as important, to preserving our fundamental liberties".
Controversial
Mr Chertoff had previously headed the Justice Department's criminal division - from 2001 to 2003 - and played a key role in the legal response to the 11 September attacks, helping to craft the war on terror strategy, says Daniela Relph in Washington.
In the mid-1990s, he was a special counsel for the US Senate's committee that investigated the Whitewater affair involving former President Bill Clinton.
Mr Chertoff has been described as the driving force behind some of the most controversial initiatives in the war on terrorism, our correspondent adds.
Civil liberties groups have accused him of curtailing free speech and the rights of criminal defendants.
Mr Chertoff, 51, is set to replace Tom Ridge, first chief of the Department for Homeland Security, which was created in the wake of the 2001 attacks and is responsible for preventing terror strikes on the US.
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4165507.stm[/url]
2005-01-11 18:09 | User Profile
When I heard this on the news this morning I almost fell off my chair!!!!
2005-01-11 21:16 | User Profile
Wow - I really didn't think this was possible. Better hope worse is better, because it's about to get a lot worse....
2005-01-11 21:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]Wow - I really didn't think this was possible. Better hope worse is better, because it's about to get a lot worse....[/QUOTE]
Yes, especially when Chertoff has the pleasure of declaring any White man he wants a "terrorist". 'Ve know u have visited OD vorum and vrite dings ve do not approve of, Mr. Smith. U are a threat to da security of dees United States and ve vill transport U to a special hospital for recovery of uhr sickness.'
2005-01-11 22:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]Wow - I really didn't think this was possible. Better hope worse is better, because it's about to get a lot worse....[/QUOTE]
Perhaps, but perhaps not. I freely acknowledge that Mr. Chertoff is one of the most vile, fascist traitors to ever sully the Federal government of the United States of America, but as chief of the Department of Homeland Security, will he actually have access to any sort of general law enforcement agency, such as the FBI or the U.S. Marshalls' Service? Perhaps he's actually less of a threat in this capacity than he was as Assistant Attorney General. I don't know enough about the Department of Homeland Security in order to be able to say; I should seriously look into it.
2005-01-11 22:51 | User Profile
Perhaps an open Jew like Chertoff will not actually dare to make so brazen moves as some "Gentile front" would?
Petr
2005-01-11 23:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]Perhaps an open Jew like Chertoff will not actually dare to make so brazen moves as some "Gentile front" would?
Petr[/QUOTE]If not he will build foundations...place Jews in key positions, then step down to be replaced by a covert Jew.
I have given up all assumptions of Bush being a gentile.
2005-01-11 23:23 | User Profile
Is the guy a Jew? or a Jew lover? or what?
2005-01-12 01:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=travis]I have given up all assumptions of Bush being a gentile.[/QUOTE]
Bush's grandfather, Sen. Prescott Bush of Connecticut, was pretty cozy with Hitler. Additionally, the Bush family tree is pretty well known (the Bush family's prominence extends well back into the 19th century, at least, although they didn't enter electoral politics until the mid-20th century). The Bush family are all known to be direct descendants of the King of Albania (as well as all other royal houses of Europe). Say what you will about those worthless bastards, I don't think they're Jews, other than perhaps the honorary variety.
2005-01-12 02:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]Bush's grandfather, Sen. Prescott Bush of Connecticut, was pretty cozy with Hitler. Additionally, the Bush family tree is pretty well known (the Bush family's prominence extends well back into the 19th century, at least, although they didn't enter electoral politics until the mid-20th century). The Bush family are all known to be direct descendants of the King of Albania (as well as all other royal houses of Europe). Say what you will about those worthless bastards, I don't think they're Jews, other than perhaps the honorary variety.[/QUOTE] I don't think there is any way to know for sure. Bush is related to Kerry, who is a Jew. If you google "bush kerry related" you'll find a ton of information, none of which I have verified, if such a task would be possible
[url]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+kerry+related[/url]
Any Bush-Hitler link does not really eliminate the possibility that he's Jewish, since there are numerous Jew-Hitler links, too. They financed Hitler, There's the Shickelgruber story about Hitler's grandmother, and Hitler is purported to have had Jewish Generals. Also, don't forget the most important Hitler-Jew link...Qui bono...who benefits...who benefitted by the WW2/Hitler era...of course the Jews. An aquaintance of mine who is a member of Mensa who has done extensive research told me the other day that Hitler and the Jews were "connected". Another aquaintance told me that this Mensa member was the vice president of the American Nazi Party many years ago (he's up in his years). Also, Arnold Swartzenegger has Nazi ties and seems to be a sweetheart of the media. Most of the Royal families of Europe have Jewish blood.
I find it hard to believe that a Christian-Zionist, if that's what Bush is, could be that completely devoid of any keen sense of the obvious.
I'm sure some here will be outraged at what I've speculated, but such a reaction comes from the thought of telling others that "Bush is a Jew", which would not really serve us well.
2005-01-12 02:25 | User Profile
We are already familiar with your paranoia, Travis.
Petr
2005-01-12 02:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]We are already familiar with your paranoia, Travis.
Petr[/QUOTE] Speak for yourself, judeophile. You fit right in at the phora.
2005-01-12 03:08 | User Profile
[COLOR=Indigo][B] - "Speak for yourself, judeophile." [/B] [/COLOR]
Your comment is not worth answering. Let's just say that people like you who see Marranoes under every bed are not the best possible advertisement for WN cause or paleoconservatism.
Petr
2005-01-12 03:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr] Your comment is not worth answering. Let's just say that people like you who see Marranoes under every bed are not the best possible advertisement for WN cause or paleoconservatism.[/QUOTE] You and your little circle of judeophiles at the phora are constantly promoting the idea that our cause will be better served by sticking our heads in the sand about our greatest and most dangerous enemy. I doubt it will get much support here. We are faced with an ADL extremist being put in charge of deciding whether we are "domestic terrorists" and need to be detained permanently and you sling around shut-up words like "paranoia" to protect the Jews from scrutiny. Anyone that detects any Marranos anywhere is "paranoid" in your book, yet there is no logical reason whatsoever to believe Marranos no longer exist and every reason to believe they do.
Your comments are designed to abruptly and definitively curtail any critical thinking on the subject and prompt readers to yield to the enforced dogma of our rulers.
2005-01-12 03:42 | User Profile
[B] - "You and your little circle of judeophiles at the phora are constantly promoting the idea that our cause will be better served by sticking our heads in the sand about our greatest and most dangerous enemy."[/B]
You must be confusing me with FadeTheButcher - I have an independent mind, you know.
I have never encouraged any naivete concerning the organized Jewry, and you cannot call me a "judeophile" just because I don't buy into every corny conspiracy put there.
Petr
2005-01-12 03:44 | User Profile
It is no joke. Chertoff means "devil".
2005-01-12 04:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]
I have never encouraged any naivete concerning the organized Jewry,[/QUOTE] If you are not encouraging naivete, then why do you attack my posts using shut-up words instead of using logic and verifiable phenomena to refute it? Your tactics show where your heart is. Your actions are not those of a truth-seeker.
Do you believe Marranos don't exist? Do you think we have gotten in this bad a sutuation because our enemies have only operated overtly? It's a war of deception.
Western civilization is on the brink of total collapse and we are supposed to close our mouths, eyes and ears to prevent anyone from thinking we are "paranoid"? Image is useful, but not when it prevents us from understanding the problems we face.
2005-01-12 14:05 | User Profile
The coronation of M. Chertoff to command Ministry of Motherland Security should be a highly sufficient event to draw every supposed WN's head out of the sand, [I]tout de suite[/I], concerning the final steps of a complete Jewish takeover of the United States of America. Somehow though, I think there's many who still take comfort in their sand traps and yak-yak at the other ostriches who are trying to warn them.
2005-01-12 14:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]It is no joke. Chertoff means "devil".[/QUOTE]
True.
2005-01-15 02:11 | User Profile
Jorge has found someone to carry on the work of Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky and Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria.
2005-01-17 21:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Do you believe Marranos don't exist? Do you think we have gotten in this bad a sutuation because our enemies have only operated overtly?[/QUOTE] Marranos exist, of course, but whole [I]families[/I] of marranos exist only as putative "HispanicS", not as putative whites. The Bush family's history is an open book. The notion that Bush is a Jew is false. It is not just false; it is ridiculous. Get it out of your head. The Jewish community acts covertly partly by getting gentiles like Bush to provide the cover. Get it?
2005-01-17 21:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]Marranos exist, of course, but whole [I]families[/I] of marranos exist only as putative "HispanicS", not as putative whites. [/QUOTE] Prove it.
Have you ever heard of Madelaine Albright or John Kerry? They were Marranos until someone pointed it out and forced them to "discover" they were Jewish. Marranos do exist in the White community and they can be found in very high places as I have demonstrated. I'm not making the assertion that Bush is a Jew, but that he could very well be and we would have no way of knowing. Whether or not something seems ridiculous to us has no bearing on whether or not it is true.
2005-01-18 00:03 | User Profile
Albright and Wesley Clark are examples of [I]individual[/I] crypto-Jews. (Kerry is not very cryptic, since his Jewishness is open; his brother actually [I]goes to the synagogue to worship.[/I]) Their origins were shrouded in mystery. But when you talk about the Bushes, you are talking about a family that has been in the public eye for generations. And you cannot cite any example of such a phenomenon.
Travis, you're in Texas, where you can have plenty of fun identifying real marranos. Isn't that enough?
2005-01-18 00:27 | User Profile
Maybe I should be using the term "crypto-Jews" if "Marrano" is hard to swallow, not that there is any real difference. There has not been a public eye for generations, until the advent of the internet, if not for the net I doubt that many would know Kerry, Albright, Franks and Clark were Jews, and few outside of racialists even realize that. That said, we can only speculate how many Jews are in high places such as the ones held by those just mentioned, and it seems very naive to me that the Jews, who are masters of strategy, would have passed up all the opportunities for decades. The Rockefellers are Jewish and had kept it secret for generations until a Jewish author got sloppy and disclosed it (Stephen Birmingham) in "The Grandees". I have read and heard various reports that LBJ, Eisenhower, FDR, Mao and Stalin were Jews, none of which can be proven or disproven beyond modus operandi and modus agendi.
We are losing the game of survival and have been for some time. The enemy is more ambitious in the use of clever strategies than we give them credit for. Assuming that the only Marranos around are MexJews seems rather foolish in light of the strategic value and opportunity of having covert agents in many high places.
2005-01-18 01:04 | User Profile
Oik oik oik did you know that "marrano" means pig?
So, what does a "hispanic" has to do with a pig? I am a Cuban so I guess that I am a pig?.
Call me a pig but don't call me a Jew.
Ponce <-------- lost a usual, sometimes ignorance is a blessing.
2005-01-18 03:22 | User Profile
[I][B] - "The Rockefellers are Jewish and had kept it secret for generations until a Jewish author got sloppy and disclosed it (Stephen Birmingham) in "The Grandees".[/B][/I]
Give us a break. What evidence does Birmingham present for this claim?
Does it occur to you that some Jewish author might simply be out to make a quick buck on a sensationalist biography? Should we believe him uncritically just because he happens to be a Jew?
(and by the way, neither Albright nor Clark nor Kerry are biologically pure Jews. Albright is 3/4 Jewish, Clark and Kerry half-Jewish, and not through the Talmudically required maternal line either)
Petr
2005-01-18 03:31 | User Profile
A jew in the woodpile does not make a family jewish.
2005-01-18 03:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr][I][B] - "The Rockefellers are Jewish and had kept it secret for generations until a Jewish author got sloppy and disclosed it (Stephen Birmingham) in "The Grandees".[/B][/I]
Give us a break. What evidence does Birmingham present for this claim? Get real. What differentiates the Rockefellers from the Rothschilds? They are cast of the same mold and keep the same company (mostly Jews), are involved with one-worlder secret societies like Illuminati, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission and are big players in fiat banking. What looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck is a duck. Birmingham would have no motive to give Jews even more scrutiny for their mischief by falsely stating that the Rockefellers were Jews in a book intended for Jews. It's common knowledge now.
(and by the way, neither Albright nor Clark nor Kerry are biologically pure Jews. Albright is 3/4 Jewish, Clark and Kerry half-Jewish, and not through the Talmudically required maternal line either)
Petr[/QUOTE]All these so-called half Jews we constantly hear about are half overt Jew and half covert Jew. Race mixing is for gentiles, remember?
If an overt Jew marries a covert Jew do you think that the covert Jew's family wants everyone to blow their cover? Of course not. They parade around telling the dumb gentiles they are half-this and half-that as though it should be fashionable to be "half-something". Gentiles are so gullible.
Covertness is Jewish modus operandi. Name-changing is very commonplace among Jews for the simple reason that it has strategic value to maneover around in politics, media and commerce without disclosing their secret alliances.
2005-01-18 03:51 | User Profile
[B][I] - "Get real. What differentiates the Rockefellers from the Rothschilds? They are cast of the same mold and keep the same company (mostly Jews), are involved with one-worlder secret societies like Illuminati, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission and are big players in fiat banking. What looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck is a duck. Birmingham would have no motive to give Jews even more scrutiny for their mischief by falsely stating that the Rockefellers were Jews in a book intended for Jews. It's common knowledge now."[/I][/B]
Blah blah blah. Can we see any concrete evidence or sources (from you or Birmingham) instead of this paranoid rhetoric?
You know, in a scholarly manner. Big claims require big evidence, you should know that.
Petr
2005-01-18 04:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]
Blah blah blah. Can we see any concrete evidence or sources (from you or Birmingham) instead of this paranoid rhetoric?
You know, in a scholarly manner.
Petr[/QUOTE]I think Petr's definition of "Concrete evidence" and "Scholarly manner" means taking the word of the talking heads on the boob tube.
You support for Jews and diversion to Islamic issues is pretty consistent, as is your use of ad hominem.
2005-01-18 04:17 | User Profile
[I][B] - "I think Petr's definition of "Concrete evidence" and "Scholarly manner" means taking the word of the talking heads on the boob tube."[/B][/I]
Surely Birmingham's book has some footnotes and bibliography in it? THAT'S what I mean.
You are acting as if you wouldn't even have any idea of what I'm talking about. Why do you think that Kevin MacDonald does not rely on the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion in his books?
In a word, [B]quit whining[/B]. In your conspiratologist circles you may have gotten used to "yes-men" who more or less politely agree with everything you present, instead of giving you an appropriate critical [I]peer review[/I].
You know, a peer review? One of the basic elements of real scholarship?
If you were really able to answer to my objections and criticism in a convincing manner, I would have a whole new respect for you and might even begin to take your claims seriously.
Instead, you choose to mope childishly and start making insinuations about my loyalties. This is in itself a cheap [I]ad hominem [/I] and doesn't give a very good impression of you.
"Diversion to Islamic issues," huh? I happen to live in Europe, and let me tell you, Islamic invasion is not just some neocon invention, it's actually happening, comparable to your Mexican reconquista. Do you think Judaism is the only enemy the Western civilization has?
Petr
2005-01-18 05:13 | User Profile
"Diversion to Islamic issues," huh? I happen to live in Europe, and let me tell you, Islamic invasion is not just some neocon invention, it's actually happening, comparable to your Mexican reconquista. Do you think Judaism is the only enemy the Western civilization has?
I can't claim to be intimately familiar with the situation in Europe, but I can tell you for a fact right now that Zionist Jews are a FAR greater threat to the US than Islam. There isn't even any comparison. A Fifth Column of Zionist Jews has thoroughly infiltrated the US government -- remember, they're the ones who suckered the US and Britain into invading Iraq -- and Zionist Jews have been entrenched in the media for a long time as well. They have all the bases covered. Muslims, by contrast, have no influence over the US government, and the media portrays them almost exclusively as terrorists. In addition, to my knowledge at least, Muslims in the US don't commit any significant proportion of crimes (not including Negro Muslims, of course).
Because of the alien Jewish influence on the US government, it's pretty likely that the US will attack yet another one of Israel's neighbors (probably Iran or Syria) within the next few years. That will do great harm to the US in many ways -- economically, politically, and militarily -- but that won't stop the Fifth Column from trying to make it happen nonetheless. Parasites merely use their hosts; they don't care if the host eventually withers and dies.
2005-01-18 05:18 | User Profile
Petr? I am glad that finally came out of the closet by saying that you are a Jew, I know can ask questions from your as representing your people.....are you up to par?
Any way Pert, How many of your people are there really in the US? people say that six millions but I say hat is close to fourteen millions am I right?
2005-01-18 05:19 | User Profile
Angler, your post makes mostly great sense, and can be independently verified from various sources.
This "marranoes under every bed"-line that Travis is peddling [B]cannot[/B].
Do you believe that Rockefellers are crypto-Jews, Angler? Have you ever heard of this Stephen Birmingham book that Travis says is "common knowledge"?
Petr
2005-01-18 05:20 | User Profile
Ponce - shut up you dimwit. People are trying to have some serious discussion here.
Petr
2005-01-18 08:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]A jew in the woodpile does not make a family jewish.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I know it's off topic, but that reminds me of an old Johnny Reb lyric:
jigaboo, jigaboo where are you? I's here in the woodpile a'watchin' you jigaboo, jigaboo come out! Naw'suh! I's scared of the white man way down South'a!
:lol:
2005-01-18 10:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]I Because of the alien Jewish influence on the US government, it's pretty likely that the US will attack yet another one of Israel's neighbors (probably Iran or Syria) within the next few years. .[/QUOTE]
And China...Don't forget China...Kill China. And in this they get the automatic jerk-off help of all the old right-wing American communist haters....the full spectrum killer crew...they can't not be in the proces of killing. If they stopped now, everything they have killed for woulod be lost. Not that there ever was anything else ... just the killing for its own sake, that is what they are, have never been anything else, and cannot be anything else. It is self-evident to everybody except those who voted for Bush, probably to them, too,
2005-01-18 15:41 | User Profile
Petr, Your tactics speak for themselves. Perhaps you could go and excerise them at the Phora where your people are welcome.
2005-01-18 16:15 | User Profile
Thank you Petr, you have just proven my point.......it is the tactic of the Jews to insult when they either can't or don't want to answer a question.
I have read all your postings and I will stand by what I wrote before when I said that you are a Jew pretending to be a Goy and anti-Jewish.
2005-01-18 16:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Thank you Petr, you have just proven my point.......it is the tactic of the Jews to insult when they either can't or don't want to answer a question.
It's hard to answer your questions Ponce, when most can understand what you're saying in the first place.
I have read all your postings and I will stand by what I wrote before when I said that you are a Jew pretending to be a Goy and anti-Jewish.[/QUOTE]
Give us a break. Petr is not jewish.
2005-01-18 19:03 | User Profile
Travis, have you ever seen a copy of "First American Jewish Families: 600 Genealogies : 1654-1988," by Malcolm H. Stern? Apparently, that's the (apparently reliable) source of the genealogical references contained in the Birmingham book. If you want to have some fun with crypto-Jews who are [I]not [/I] from Mexico, that looks like the place to start. Of course, it's priced at $450 (updated through 1977) or $1,200 (updated through 1988) at Alibris.com!!!! And good luck finding it in a library!!
I haven't seen Birmingham's book, but the Jewish community doesn't seem to consider it inaccurate in its references to ancestry.
2005-01-18 19:08 | User Profile
Or how about this one:
STERN, Malcolm H. AMERICANS OF JEWISH DESCENT: A COMPENDIUM OF GENEALOGY. Cincinnati, Ohio: Hebrew Union College Press, [1960]. Large oblong quarto, light-purple cloth. Publications Of The American Jewish Archives, Number V. Limited Edition of 500 numbered copies. A scarce title! Near Fine.
Just $2,849.95!!!!
[url]http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?qwork=282979&wauth=stern%2C%20malcolm&ptit=Americans%20of%20Jewish%20descent&pauth=Stern%2C%20Malcolm%20H%2E&pisbn=&pqty=1&pqtynew=0&pbest=2849%2E95&matches=1&qsort=r[/url]
2005-01-19 02:28 | User Profile
[COLOR=Red][I][B] - "Petr, Your tactics speak for themselves. Perhaps you could go and excerise them at the Phora where your people are welcome."[/B][/COLOR] ______[/I]
“[I]My tactics[/I]?” ”[I]Your people[/I]?” You mean how I demonstrate my own “crypto-Jewishness” by asking for some detailed information from that book by Stephen Birmingham? Excerpts, footnotes, sources, bibliography?
My ambitious intention is to upkeep and lift the intellectual standards of this forum – namely, by eliminating this sort of amateurish attitude.
I think you have lived a somewhat [B]intellectually sheltered [/B] life, Travis. I mean, you don’t seem to be used to defending your ideas and viewpoints when they are seriously challenged.
Among other things, I have been engaging in for years in some high-level Christian apologetics in the Internet, and I’ve seen that if you make any kind of sloppy arguing, your opponents will jump on it like a pack of hungry wolves. However, I am able to debate NOT only among friends who pat my back uncritically but also among people who will call attention to every mistake I make. I think it makes my style more professional.
If you go announcing - like Travis does – that Putin is a Marrano Jew, Bush is a Jew or that Rockefellers are Jews, and [B]then [/B] refuse to back your claims up, you will look like a kook and embarrass not only yourself but your cause as well.
If you will then even declare that your opponent is a loathsome Jew/pagan/whatever simply because he asks questions you cannot answer to - you will look downright pitiful.
One of the basic laws of argumentation is that BIG CLAIMS CALL FOR BIG EVIDENCE. The claim such as “Rockefellers are crypto-Jews” is such a big claim that you better have some concrete evidence ready at hand – [I]and preferably from more than just one [/I] [I]source [/I] - before you go spouting it in the public. Otherwise you are going to make a very, eh, eccentric impression.
[B]Michael A. Hoffman II, [/B] probably the classiest conspiracy theorist out there, has announced that people who make badly argumented, easy-to-shoot-down accusations against Jews are being really counterproductive, providing Judaic apologists with a veritable “turkey-shoot”.
[B]Kevin MacDonald [/B] points out in his review of Henry Ford’s “The International Jew”, that even though that book contained plenty of very reasonable and credible argumentation, it was it’s overt reliance on the “Protocols of Zion” that made and makes so easy to dismiss the whole work out of hand:
[COLOR=Indigo][I]“The discussion of the Protocols and references to them throughout the work is definitely the low point of TIJ. Since the Protocols were exposed as fraudulent, it has been very easy to discredit the entire enterprise of TIJ because of its extensive use of them, and that is exactly what Baldwin does. … The Protocols present a “theory” in which absolutely every aspect of modernism is explained as the result of a single, centuries-old overarching Jewish conspiracy to subjugate non-Jews. … The Protocols are written in such a way that virtually anything that happens—even anti-Jewish actions—can be seen as part of a Jewish conspiracy.”[/I][/COLOR]
[url]http://www.theoccidentalquarterly.com/vol2no4/km-ford2.html[/url]
Even such expertly WN analysts such as “[B]Yggdrasil[/B]” do not buy into this idea omnipresent, intentional Jewish conspiracy a la “Protocols”:
[COLOR=DarkRed][I]“As our society crumbles, with falling SAT scores, soaring violent crime, growing drug use among teenagers and growing welfare dependency, Jews in general are greatly comforted by the existence of this mass of rules and the armies of police to enforce them.
[B]"None of this was brought about by a conspiracy or a central "plan." [/B] Rather, it is the natural process by which a people confident of their culture struggles to establish the supremacy of that culture. And it is a culture that is only "comfortable" when hundreds of thousands of Rabbis (bearing modern secular titles) supervise every last detail of our lives.”[/I][/COLOR]
[url]http://home.ddc.net/ygg/rj/rj-30.htm[/url]
If you are going to yell “Jew” to every person who simply asks you to verify your claims with some elementary sourcework, you are never going to impress anyone with a little education or even common horse-sense.
So Travis, give us some info from that Birmingham book, if you possess it, for I am interested about it.
Petr
2005-01-19 02:45 | User Profile
Tex? my question to Petr was a simpleone, if you read below and for your convenience I will repeat it.
Petr? how many of your people are there really in the US? people say that six millions but I think that is closer to fourten millions, am I right?
As you can see Tex. it is very easy to understand what I asked, all that you have to do is read.
About Petr being a Jew? time will tell (for you not for me).
2005-01-19 03:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]My ambitious intention is to upkeep and lift the intellectual standards of this forum ââ¬â namely, by eliminating this sort of amateurish attitude.
Is this what you mean by intellectual standards?> We are already familiar with your paranoia, Travis. or this?
Blah blah blah. Can we see any concrete evidence or sources (from you or Birmingham) instead of this paranoid rhetoric? or this...> I think you have lived a somewhat intellectually sheltered life, Travis. I mean, you donââ¬â¢t seem to be used to defending your ideas and viewpoints when they are seriously challenged.
Constant ridicule and insults do not uplift anything but antagonism and disruption. Distorting nearly everything I say does not raise intellectual standards.
One of the basic laws of argumentation is that BIG CLAIMS CALL FOR BIG EVIDENCE. Big cliams are made daily and year after year by the Jewsmedia and you are not challenging it....but then anything the talking heads tell the TV addled masses is big evidence, right?
Here is the book:
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0815604599/102-1465804-9062547[/url]
Everything about the Rockefellers seems to be controversial, even their family background. One story goes that the family descends from French Protestants, who changed their name from Roquefeuille to Rockefeller when they were driven from France into Germany. However, a genealogy compiled by the distinguished scholar, Dr. Malcolm Stern, entitled Americans of Jewish Descent, convincingly established the claims of many American Jews that the Rockefeller clan originally was one of their own.*
[url]http://newsmine.org/archive/cabal-elite/families/rockefeller/rockefeller-file-ch1-4.txt[/url]
[url]http://www.mega.nu/ampp/gary_allen_rocker/ch1-4.html[/url]
[url]http://www15.ocn.ne.jp/~oyakodon/doc4.htm[/url]
2005-01-19 03:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]Angler, your post makes mostly great sense, and can be independently verified from various sources.
This "marranoes under every bed"-line that Travis is peddling [B]cannot[/B].
Do you believe that Rockefellers are crypto-Jews, Angler? Have you ever heard of this Stephen Birmingham book that Travis says is "common knowledge"? [/QUOTE] In all honesty I had never even heard of a "marrano" before. I also know very little about the Rockefellers, though of course I know they're very wealthy, etc. I'd never heard that they were crypto-Jews before. Neither am I familiar with the book Travis referred to.
Basically, I feel that much of what the more rabid Jewish supremacists are up to can be determined by following the mainstream and alternative newsmedia, reading Jewish sites on the Net, and that sort of thing. It's not necessary to dig very deep, for example, to figure out why the US vetoes any UN Security Council resolution critical of Israel even when every other nation on the Council votes in favor. That's why I don't spend a lot of time on more elaborate, tenuously-supported conspiracy theories. It's just not necessary to do so to learn a lot about what's going on with the Tribe.
2005-01-19 03:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Sorry, I know it's off topic, but that reminds me of an old Johnny Reb lyric:
jigaboo, jigaboo where are you? I's here in the woodpile a'watchin' you jigaboo, jigaboo come out! Naw'suh! I's scared of the white man way down South'a!
:lol:[/QUOTE]
I got a good laugh out of that one.
2005-01-19 05:10 | User Profile
[B][I] - "Big cliams are made daily and year after year by the Jewsmedia and you are not challenging it...."[/I][/B]
How the heck do you know that I am not?
Petr
2005-01-20 00:08 | User Profile
Solomon Bush: Is Remembered As A Soldier and Citizen by Seymour "Sy" Brody Lieutenant Colonel Solomon Bush was the highest-ranking Jewish officer in the Continental Army and was decorated for his bravery in action. The son of Mathias Bush, a merchant, he was born in Philadelphia in 1753. His first duty in the War of Independence was as deputy adjutant general of the Pennsylvania State Militia. At Brandywine, the militia encountered the British Army. Bullets and cannon balls flew through the air as the two armies intensified their battle. Captain Lewis Bush, the colonel's brother, was mortally wounded.
Colonel Bush was deeply involved in the battle and he received a near-fatal wound that affected him for the rest of his life. Although he survived the battle, he was captured when the British took Philadelphia. He was later freed in an exchange of prisoners between the British and the Americans.
more:
[url]http://www.fau.edu/library/brody6.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.visi.com/~marv/html/d0004/g0000033.htm[/url]
2005-01-20 07:48 | User Profile
That's nice, Travis. Now all you've got to do is to prove that this Solomon Bush is connected to the clan we all know and love - that "[I]University portays Bush's ancestor as hero[/I]" headline was your addition, right?
I also noticed, from your second link, that if names mean anything, Solomon Bush's father had already married a Gentile - "Mother: Mary E. PHILLIPS". Jews simply do not name their daughters "Mary".
Petr
2005-01-20 08:24 | User Profile
On the second look I noticed something; your [B]first[/B] link says:
[COLOR=Indigo][B][I] “[U]The son of Mathias Bush[/U], a merchant, he was [U]born in Philadelphia in 1753[/U].”[/I][/B][/COLOR]
You seem to have mixed up two people with the same name! This second Solomon Bush doesn't seem to be Jewish at all.
Petr
2005-01-20 12:41 | User Profile
All I have done is demonstrated that there have been Jews in the past with the "Bush" name. Most likely they have descendents that go by that name, thus, as I asserted, Bush is the offspring of Solomon Bush. Whether or not GW is that same descendent remains to be determinined....ahahahaha