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2005-01-04 15:28 | User Profile
I have seen quite a few White Nationalist refer to him on other boards. I assume he was a Pagan God?
If so, why would true Israelites believe he exists? After all we have One God, and his name isn't ODIN!
2005-01-30 22:32 | User Profile
Odin is a Aryan God of the Germanic tribes he is also know as Wotan and Wodan, Woden.etc Many White Nationalists are not C.I and therefore do not consider themself's to be Israelites. Many follow or claim to follow Odin and the Germanic Gods. Making them Odinists not Israelites. :thumbsup:
[QUOTE=Free The Truth]I have seen quite a few White Nationalist refer to him on other boards. I assume he was a Pagan God?
If so, why would true Israelites believe he exists? After all we have One God, and his name isn't ODIN![/QUOTE]
2005-01-30 22:53 | User Profile
[img]http://www.einherjer.de/odin.jpg[/img][img]http://www.asatru.ru/visions/odinthrone_2.jpg[/img] ODIN on his throne with the wolves Freki and Geri
[url="http://www.asatru.ru/Allfather.html"]http://www.asatru.ru/Allfather.html[/url]
2005-01-31 14:23 | User Profile
Excerpts from C.G. Jung's "Wotan," found in Civilization in Transition, vol. 10 of the Collected Works of C.G. Jung:
"What is more than curious--indeed, piquant to a degree--is that an ancient god of storm and frenzy, the long quiescent Wotan, should awake, like an extinct volcano, to new activity, in a civilized country that had long been supposed to have outgrown the Middle Ages."
"Wotan is a restless wanderer who creates unrest and stirs up strife, now here, now there, and works magic. He was soon changed by Christianity into the devil."
"A mind that is still childish thinks of the gods as metaphysical entities existing in their own right, or else regards them as playful or superstitious inventions....But since the gods are without doubt personifications of psychic forces, to assert their metaphysical existence is as much an intellectual presumption as the opinion that they could ever be invented. Not that 'psychic forces' have anything to do with the conscious mind, fond as we are of playing with the idea that consciousness and psyche are identical. This is only another piece of intellectual presumption. 'Psychic forces' have far more to do with the realm of the unconscious. Our mania for rational explanations obviously has its roots in our fear of metaphysics, for the two were always hostile brothers. Hence anything unexpected that approaches us from that dark realm is regarded either as coming from outside and therefore as real, or else as an hallucination and therefore not true. The idea that anything could be real or true which does not come from outside has hardly begun to dawn on contemporary man."
"It was not in Wotan's nature to linger on and show signs of old age. He simply disappeared when the times turned against him, and remained invisible for more than a thousand years, working anonymously and indirectly. Archetypes are like riverbeds which dry up when the water deserts them, but which it can find again at any time. An archetype is like an old watercourse along which the water of life has flown for centuries, digging a deep channel for itself. The longer it has flowed in this channel the more likely it is that sooner or later the water will return to its old bed. The life of the individual as a member of society and particularly as part of the State may be regulated like a canal, but the life of nations is a great rushing river which is utterly beyond human control, in the hands of One who has always been stronger than men."
2005-02-04 06:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Free The Truth]I have seen quite a few White Nationalist refer to him on other boards. I assume he was a Pagan God?
If so, why would true Israelites believe he exists? After all we have One God, and his name isn't ODIN![/QUOTE] Woden was a Germanic god, also known by the Swedes as Odin, and sometimes as Wotan. From his name the day, "Wednesday" or Woden's Day is derived, just as Thursday is derived from 'Thor's Day.' The Germans call Thursday 'Donnerstag' or 'Thunder[er]'s Day.
Woden was also a Germanic god-king, named as an ancestor by the Franks (French), Angles, Saxons, Lombards (Northern Italians), Vandals, and other assorted tribes originating from Northern and Central Germany. According to R.W. Chamber's 'Beowulf,' Woden was of a line of god-kings tracing his lineage to Sceaf (Sheaf) the foundling, like Moses, found in a boat with a suit of armor, sword, shield, and sheaf of wheat. Wodenism displaced the worship of Nerthius described in Tacitus's Germannia published A.D. 125, and is placed by myself and others as probably living around 200 A.D. Woden was god-king over many many tribes, and the Franks until Clovis and the English until Offa II (A.D. 700s), claimed descent from Woden.
After Christianity arrived there came a time when those descended from Woden didn't mention his name. However, with Christianity came writing, and some of the very first things committed to parchment were the oral traditions of the bards. Beowulf was written sometime between 600 - 800 A.D., as Beowulf is the story of the last king of the Geats before that kingdom was overrun by the Swedes after 525 A.D. It is the story or a Geat going to visit the Danes to take care of monster toubles after the Angles and much of the Saxons had left for Engli-land from 449-500 A.D. The Danes were not popular with the (Anglish) English after invading England (Angli-land) in the 800s A.D.
I've my own little theory that Woden, like Romulus, got on his people's nerves and I published it in my unfinished novel, "The Stallion and the Dragons."
[url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/sd-2f.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/sd-2f.html[/url]
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/staldrg.html"]http://www.martinlindstedt.org/staldrg.html[/url]
2005-02-04 06:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]Woden was a Germanic god, also known by the Swedes as Odin, and sometimes as Wotan. From his name the day, "Wednesday" or Woden's Day is derived, just as Thursday is derived from 'Thor's Day.' The Germans call Thursday 'Donnerstag' or 'Thunder[er]'s Day. ... I've my own little theory that Woden, like Romulus, got on his people's nerves and I published it in my unfinished novel, "The Stallion and the Dragons." ...[/QUOTE] Very impressive Marty !
You really are... multi-talented.
:smile:
2005-02-09 04:30 | User Profile
To add to the info Martin provided. The Rev. Milner in his Genealogical Chart shows that Odin was a descendant of Priam, king of Troy, and thus also of the house of Judah-Zarah. Milner's authorities are the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles, the Icelandic Landfedgatel, and a Herald's College MS. The latter MS, tells that Odin in 250 A.D. married Frea, the daughter of Cadwalladr, king of Siluria and also of the line of Priam. From the sons of Odin and Frea is descended Rurik, the founder of the Russian Empire in 840; the house of Wettin that has furnished the royal families of Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Saxony, and Coburg-Gotha; and the house of Guelph, to which belong the houses of Hanover, Brunswick, Luneburg, Mecklenburg, Bavaria, and a host of other German noble families. So Odin was a man who has been diefied.:thumbsup:
[QUOTE=Phantasm]Very impressive Marty !
You really are... multi-talented.
:)[/QUOTE]
2005-02-09 05:01 | User Profile
albion,
Nice Woden Pictures.
2005-02-09 05:36 | User Profile
I found this posted at Stormfront and just copied and am pasting it word for word as it was posted there.
THE HERALD'S COLLEGE.-It occasionally happens that when a new thoroughfare is made in an old district treasures are revealed and houses brought to public notice which have hitherto been obscured by mean streets. The Herald's College in Queen Victoria Street is a case in point. The present building dates from 1683 and was originally the town house of the Earls of Derby. The Herald's College is the office of the Earl-Marshal of England, the Duke of Norfolk, and [u]contains the records and pedigrees of the nobility[/u].
An interesting relic kept here is the sword of King James IV. of Scotland, who was killed at Flodden Field in 1513. There are also many series of Genealogical Charts, [u]among them that of the Saxon Kings who trace their descent from Adam.[/u]
[url="http://www.oldandsold.com/articles06/london-61.shtml"]http://www.oldandsold.com/articles06/london-61.shtml[/url]
It is interesting to note that "Odin" was a descendant of Judah, the partriarch of the Israelite tribe of Judah, who Christ was also a descendant of.
"Odin" introduced among the people a new religion, the tenants of which faith included the "Fatherhood of God", the immortality of the soul, future rewards and punishments, the consecration of valor, "seeking ever to die in battle rather than in peace" - this being the ultimate goal by which they might attain to "Valhalla", or heaven. After the death of Odin, his authority was transmitted to his five sons, whom he had placed on neighboring thrones. In time "Odin" came to be regarded by the early Scandinavians as a mythical "god".
From Odin's son, Skiold, descended the "Skiolduns" - a race of Kings, which long held the scepter of Denmark. Yngue another son reigned in Sweden, and from him sprang the "Ynglings" - a name by which the ancient sovereigns of that country were disntinguished in history. Yet another son Balder, became the viceroy over the Angels, and from him the Anglo-Saxon Princes all traced their origin. Horsa and Hengist the two Saxon Chiefs who fought the English in the fifth century, reckoned Odin (or "Wodin" in their dialect) as their ancestor.
Missing Links Discovered in Assyrian Tablets page 176 (E. Raymond Capt)
E. Raymond Capt for over 40 years has been a practicing archaeologist.
Mr. Capt holds a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Christian History and Biblical Archaeology, from Covenant College, Lake Wales, Florida and California State teaching credentials in Biblical Archaeology and History. He is also a member of the Archaelogical Institue of America.
In 1972 Capt was elected a fellow of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland and in 1976 received an honorary Doctorate of Literature from the Accademia Testina Per Le Science, eatablished A.D. 450 in Pescara, Italy.
2005-02-09 18:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]To add to the info Martin provided. The Rev. Milner in his Genealogical Chart shows that Odin was a descendant of Priam, king of Troy, and thus also of the house of Judah-Zarah. Milner's authorities are the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles, the Icelandic Landfedgatel, and a Herald's College MS. The latter MS, tells that Odin in 250 A.D. married Frea, the daughter of Cadwalladr, king of Siluria and also of the line of Priam. From the sons of Odin and Frea is descended Rurik, the founder of the Russian Empire in 840; the house of Wettin that has furnished the royal families of Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Saxony, and Coburg-Gotha; and the house of Guelph, to which belong the houses of Hanover, Brunswick, Luneburg, Mecklenburg, Bavaria, and a host of other German noble families. So Odin was a man who has been diefied.:thumbsup:[/QUOTE]The Saxons, Angles, and Northern Germans had Nerthius, goddess of fertility and agriculture, mentioned in Tacitus' Germannia, as a female god. The Swedes had Nerthius as a male god, of agriculture, father of Frey, founder of their line of god-kings.
Or so R.W. Chambers, one of the Oxford Dons, of which J.R.R. Tolkien was the youngest, wrote in his 'Beowulf.' A copy of which can usually be found in a university library, as it is a standard for Old English studies.
In Chambers' 'Beowulf,' Woden is mentioned as an ancestor on the Anglo and Saxon kings list before the migration to Brittannia. Woden was also mentioned predominately as an ancestor of the Franks, Lombards, and other tribes originating from Northeast Germany. The closest language to Old English is Friesian, who lived in NE Holland, and were closely related to the Jutes, Angles, and Saxons.
The story of Troy goes back to around 1200-1000 B.C., when the Myceneans, precursors to the Greeks, besieged Troy. Homer is believed to have lived around 800 B.C. and put these bardic tales down on parchment then. So there is a difference of 1,000 to 1,500 years between the time of Priam vs. Woden.
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url]
2005-02-10 05:43 | User Profile
Good information Martin, you're alot more intelligent than you appear, or the dregs on this board would have one believe. The following link gives more information on the subject, and possibly explains the tares among the wheat.:thumbsup:
[url="http://www.burlingtonnews.net/odin.html"][color=#800080]http://www.burlingtonnews.net/odin.html[/color][/url]
[QUOTE=MartinLindstedt]The Saxons, Angles, and Northern Germans had Nerthius, goddess of fertility and agriculture, mentioned in Tacitus' Germannia, as a female god. The Swedes had Nerthius as a male god, of agriculture, father of Frey, founder of their line of god-kings.
Or so R.W. Chambers, one of the Oxford Dons, of which J.R.R. Tolkien was the youngest, wrote in his 'Beowulf.' A copy of which can usually be found in a university library, as it is a standard for Old English studies.
In Chambers' 'Beowulf,' Woden is mentioned as an ancestor on the Anglo and Saxon kings list before the migration to Brittannia. Woden was also mentioned predominately as an ancestor of the Franks, Lombards, and other tribes originating from Northeast Germany. The closest language to Old English is Friesian, who lived in NE Holland, and were closely related to the Jutes, Angles, and Saxons.
The story of Troy goes back to around 1200-1000 B.C., when the Myceneans, precursors to the Greeks, besieged Troy. Homer is believed to have lived around 800 B.C. and put these bardic tales down on parchment then. So there is a difference of 1,000 to 1,500 years between the time of Priam vs. Woden.
--Martin Lindstedt [url="http://www.martinlindstedt.org/"]www.martinlindstedt.org[/url][/QUOTE]
2005-02-10 08:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=6KILLER]Good information Martin, you're alot more intelligent than you appear, or the dregs on this board would have one believe. ...[/QUOTE] Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit. [There has not been any great talent without an element of madness.] - Seneca
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