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Thread ID: 16099 | Posts: 17 | Started: 2004-12-28
2004-12-28 03:08 | User Profile
[color=black]For me, it is a most certainly NO. They are not the Israelites; they are a counterfeit people and are brought up as one so many times in the Bible.[/color] [color=black][/color] [color=black]They descend through Ashkenazic who descends through Japath and through the Edomites who descend through Esau who is Jacob's brother which means they can't be Israelites.[/color] [color=black][/color] [color=black]Please tell me no one here does believe they ARE the true Israelites.[/color]
2004-12-28 05:25 | User Profile
People can call themselves what ever they choose, why hell, there was even a guy running around in the old days saying that he was the son of God.
He was mistaken for I am the son of God, see? you only believe what you want to believe in others and yourself.
People can call themself different names in order to belong to something or feel special like being a Nazi or being a "choosen one".......no difference.
2004-12-28 09:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]People can call themselves what ever they choose, why hell, there was even a guy running around in the old days saying that he was the son of God.
He was mistaken for I am the son of God, see? you only believe what you want to believe in others and yourself.
People can call themself different names in order to belong to something or feel special like being a Nazi or being a "choosen one".......no difference.[/QUOTE] Yeah I can call myself a Green Monster, doesn't make it true. The Jews can go and claim they are Gods Chosen People all they want, but it isn't true. They are a counterfeit people plain and simple.
Oh and Yeshua was the Son of God. The Jews hated him then because he knew who they really were.
2004-12-28 15:45 | User Profile
If an ethnic jew is a regenerated Christian, then yes they are one of God's chosen people, just like you, I or any other Christian.
The Christian Church is the true Israel or "God's Chosen People", if you will. St. Paul speaks to this at length in his epistle to the church in Rome.
2004-12-28 16:51 | User Profile
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 1 Peter 2:9
This verse isn't addressed to Jews, but to Christians. Paul and Jesus explain that the promise to Abraham goes to Abraham's spritial children, not physical children.
There is no path to God but through Jesus, therefor only Christians are the chosen people.
2004-12-28 18:30 | User Profile
Jews: God's 'chosen people?'.....No.....And again no!
(In my opinion this race has pulled off the greatest hoax in history)
Jews: Satan's brood?.....Now that's more like it!
'Wer kennt den Jude kennt den Teufel'
2004-12-28 23:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=vytis]Jews: God's 'chosen people?'.....No.....And again no!
(In my opinion this race has pulled off the greatest hoax in history)
Jews: Satan's brood?.....Now that's more like it!
'Wer kennt den Jude kennt den Teufel'[/QUOTE] Damn Right!
They are as I have said so many times, a COUNTERFEIT PEOPLE! They have cheated the world into thinking they are. Sad fact is so many Christians believe them.
2004-12-28 23:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]If an ethnic jew is a regenerated Christian, then yes they are one of God's chosen people, just like you, I or any other Christian.
The Christian Church is the true Israel or "God's Chosen People", if you will. St. Paul speaks to this at length in his epistle to the church in Rome.[/QUOTE] Of course, but remember probably 90% + Jews hate us Christians, just very few tell us because the rest use us.
2004-12-28 23:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Free The Truth]Damn Right!
They are as I have said so many times, a COUNTERFEIT PEOPLE! They have cheated the world into thinking they are. Sad fact is so many Christians believe them.[/QUOTE]
That makes no sense to me "They have cheated the world into thinking they are"........ in order for that to work you must believe or have a religion, those people never fooled me because I don't have a religion.
Go a talk to the Craanoquian in the jungle of Brazil or the Zulus in Africa and tell them that the Jews are the "chosen people" and they will say "what is a Jew?"
2004-12-29 00:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]That makes no sense to me "They have cheated the world into thinking they are"........ in order for that to work you must believe or have a religion, those people never fooled me because I don't have a religion.
Go a talk to the Craanoquian in the jungle of Brazil or the Zulus in Africa and tell them that the Jews are the "chosen people" and they will say "what is a Jew?"[/QUOTE] By World I mean Good White Christians.
2004-12-29 00:57 | User Profile
I'm not really competent on the religious angle, but have passed this link on to religious folks who I was discussing the Jewish question with...
[url]http://www.posse-comitatus.org/jewry/chosen.html[/url]
Haven't had any negative feedback yet.
2004-12-29 01:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Free The Truth]By World I mean Good White Christians.[/QUOTE]
Free my friend? I feel better now because for a second I thought that you meant that the whole world was so stupid as to think that those people were the holy cows or holy macrows or what ever holy conjoli they say they are.
I am glad to be a nice non believer instead of a "Good White Christian" :thumbsup:
2004-12-29 03:09 | User Profile
Obviously, today's Jews are the descendants of biblical Jews. Are they not [I]still [/I]crucifying Christ? You can't fake that kind of dedication.
2004-12-29 08:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]Obviously, today's Jews are the descendants of biblical Jews. Are they not still crucifying Christ? You can't fake that kind of dedication.[/QUOTE] Yeah but I mean the Biblical Jews were not the Israelites.
2004-12-29 08:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Free my friend? I feel better now because for a second I thought that you meant that the whole world was so stupid as to think that those people were the holy cows or holy macrows or what ever holy conjoli they say they are.
I am glad to be a nice non believer instead of a "Good White Christian" :thumbsup:[/QUOTE] Ah I see, your not religious. I respect your view however I am a White Christian and I openly tell people that the Jews are not God's People. I used the term "World" because lets face it, most of the world are "Good White Christians" - and sadly many of these people have been led to believe the Jews are the Holy People or God's chosen people
2004-12-29 23:28 | User Profile
Christ told the Pharisees that they were the offspring of Abraham, but not his children. Throughout Jewish history they have strayed and God saved a righteous remnant.
That remnant recognized Christ and followed Him. Any that come to Christ of whatever race are chosen, ethnic Jew or otherwise.
Those who do not......are not.
2004-12-30 00:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jozen1]Christ told the Pharisees that they were the offspring of Abraham, but not his children. Throughout Jewish history they have strayed and God saved a righteous remnant.
That remnant recognized Christ and followed Him. Any that come to Christ of whatever race are chosen, ethnic Jew or otherwise.
Those who do not......are not.[/QUOTE] True, they maybe the offspring of Abram, but that doesn't make them the offspring of Jacob/Israel (whom I was refering too)
Remember Isaac had 2 sons. Jacob/Israel and Esau (Edomites "JEWS")
That is why they could say "We are Abrams children but we have never been in bondage) - remember it was the Israelites (Gods people) who were in bondage.