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Thread ID: 16082 | Posts: 22 | Started: 2004-12-25
2004-12-25 06:32 | User Profile
Concerning women:
[url]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=13742[/url]
2004-12-29 00:16 | User Profile
A professed admirer of H.L. Mencken--Linder--would do well to read HLM's "In Defense of Women".
No populist, traditionalist movement has gone anywhere without the ladies...
2004-12-29 00:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.] No populist, traditionalist movement has gone anywhere without the ladies...[/QUOTE]
...but they sure seem to reside themselves quite nicely at Stormfront.
2004-12-29 06:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]A professed admirer of H.L. Mencken--Linder--would do well to read HLM's "In Defense of Women".
No populist, traditionalist movement has gone anywhere without the ladies...[/QUOTE]
Women were not meant to be involved in politics.
2004-12-29 16:57 | User Profile
Can't be opened. Am I the only one?
2004-12-30 00:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OPERA96]Can't be opened. Am I the only one?[/QUOTE]
The VNN forum is currently off-line. That comment about women, though, can be seen on the VNN main page, under the heading "Indians Convenum on the Mall," about half-way down the main page.
2004-12-30 01:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]Women were not meant to be involved in politics.
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The last thing any politician or statesmen should ever endeavor to do is alienate the females. One way or the other, women need to be made happy, or you aren't going to be. [I]That's[/I] how God made it. And women are not going to be happy if you exclude them from the vote.
2004-12-30 05:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]The last thing any politician or statesmen should ever endeavor to do is alienate the females. One way or the other, women need to be made happy, or you aren't going to be. [I]That's[/I] how God made it. And women are not going to be happy if you exclude them from the vote.[/QUOTE]
The only people who should be allowed to vote, or hold public office, are White males. That is what our Founders wanted.
2004-12-30 14:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]The only people who should be allowed to vote, or hold public office, are White males. That is what our Founders wanted.
-----[/QUOTE] Let me ask you a question, Franco. Do you believe it is possible to return our political system to a condition where women are not allowed to vote?
"Politics is the art of the possible."
2004-12-31 01:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]Let me ask you a question, Franco. Do you believe it is possible to return our political system to a condition where women are not allowed to vote?
"Politics is the art of the possible."[/QUOTE]
I don't know.
2004-12-31 03:29 | User Profile
Other than an act of heaven, I don't think so; therefore, talking about depriving women of their voting rights only serves to throw them into the arms of our enemies.
2005-01-01 00:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]The last thing any politician or statesmen should ever endeavor to do is alienate the females. One way or the other, women need to be made happy, or you aren't going to be. [I]That's[/I] how God made it. And women are not going to be happy if you exclude them from the vote.[/QUOTE]That piece by Linder IMO seems to epitimize the ideological costume fetish type ideology of Linder and where he seems to be pushing people. I'd almost suspect it to be another classic [I]piece de agent provocetuer[/I], except that is really too stupid.
For starters, what authority does a single man living in the house of his mother think he's going to have on the subject of women anyway? (Skemper has commented on that) Its why I don't even like to bother to read Linder. The world is full of unbalanced people musing about how they'd like the world to be, without any concrete ideas of putting it into practice. If Linder can find any women that will go along with this, I suspect they're ex-Third Reich types over 100.
2005-01-01 00:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE]For starters, what authority does a single man living in the house of his mother think he's going to have on the subject of women anyway? [/QUOTE]
That was not true. It was a rumor.
Besides, he lives somewhere else now.
2005-01-01 05:54 | User Profile
I don't understand what all the controversy regarding Linder amongst Nationalists is all about. He is entitled to an opinion, and guess what; he writes things that are truly off-limits to even the most chest-beating of Nationalists.
As for the commentary on women are concerned, not all of them vote Democratic and give in to compassion politics. Unfortunately, there aren't many around who are open about it. Will there ever be a female politician who is openly pro-nuclear family, anti-abortion, anti-feminism, anti-mulitculturalism, to name a few? If that is the case, then Franco's comments about women in politics has merit.
2005-01-01 06:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]That was not true. It was a rumor.
Besides, he lives somewhere else now.
----[/QUOTE]So it was not true, or was true but is not now? Can't have it both ways. :lol:
2005-01-01 06:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Robbie]I don't understand what all the controversy regarding Linder amongst Nationalists is all about. He is entitled to an opinion, and guess what; he writes things that are truly off-limits to even the most chest-beating of Nationalists.
As for the commentary on women are concerned, not all of them vote Democratic and give in to compassion politics. Unfortunately, there aren't many around who are open about it. Will there ever be a female politician who is openly pro-nuclear family, anti-abortion, anti-feminism, anti-mulitculturalism, to name a few? If that is the case, then Franco's comments about women in politics has merit.[/QUOTE]No, it is a serious question, addresses at length by MacDonald. Serious enough it deserves infinitely more than Linder's stereotyped Goebbelite histronics.
2005-01-01 15:49 | User Profile
I think it's been proven scientifically that women think with a different part of their brain than men. That is to say, women are not like men in the way they respond to stimuli. Seems to me, the best way to reach them is to find out what motivates them and use it to inform their judgments.
Case in point. This past election, more women voted for Bush than in the 2000 and that's a shocker given the fact the he brought us into a war without end and women very much vote as an anti-war block. But this time, "security" trumped all other views and Bush gave them more assurances about family safety than did the effete Kerry. So they jumped ship. You just have to know what buttons to push. Of course, it would help if you had GQ looks, but best to not go down that road.
Still...I wish they didn't have the vote. Then again, men have made a mess of things for a long time. Ho hum.
2005-01-02 00:00 | User Profile
Bush Junior exploited that primal safety-need corner of the U.S. women's collective brain better than Kerry tapped into their collective compassion-maternal corner.
All U.S. politics are played out in the subconscious today... :saddam:
[QUOTE=DakotaBlue]I think it's been proven scientifically that women think with a different part of their brain than men. That is to say, women are not like men in the way they respond to stimuli. Seems to me, the best way to reach them is to find out what motivates them and use it to inform their judgments.
Case in point. This past election, more women voted for Bush than in the 2000 and that's a shocker given the fact the he brought us into a war without end and women very much vote as an anti-war block. But this time, "security" trumped all other views and Bush gave them more assurances about family safety than did the effete Kerry. So they jumped ship. You just have to know what buttons to push. Of course, it would help if you had GQ looks, but best to not go down that road.
Still...I wish they didn't have the vote. Then again, men have made a mess of things for a long time. Ho hum.[/QUOTE]
2005-01-02 01:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr.]Bush Junior exploited that primal safety-need corner of the U.S. women's collective brain better than Kerry tapped into their collective compassion-maternal corner.
All U.S. politics are played out in the subconscious today... :saddam:[/QUOTE]
Yes!
2005-01-03 02:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]
For starters, what authority does a single man living in the house of his mother think he's going to have on the subject of women anyway? (Skemper has commented on that) Its why I don't even like to bother to read Linder. The world is full of unbalanced people musing about how they'd like the world to be, without any concrete ideas of putting it into practice. If Linder can find any women that will go along with this, I suspect they're ex-Third Reich types over 100.[/QUOTE]
Because of his habit of not using paragraph breaks, I never read much of Linder, but I read enough to know he is a classic misogynist, which has its place [I]in literature[/I], but not politics. To quote that butcher of Chinese, Mao Tse-Tung: "women hold up half the sky".
2005-01-03 05:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]To quote that butcher of Chinese, Mao Tse-Tung: "women hold up half the sky".[/QUOTE]I like that :thumbsup:
2005-01-05 06:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]Because of his habit of not using paragraph breaks, I never read much of Linder,
I thought maybe I was the only who objected that that practice of his.
but I read enough to know he is a classic misogynist, which has its place [I]in literature[/I], but not politics. To quote that butcher of Chinese, Mao Tse-Tung: "women hold up half the sky".[/QUOTE]
I also notice that most of these misogynist-types aren't married:
One is because their attitude is so crappy, they probably can't find any woman to put up with them.
Second, if they ever actually did find a good woman, they wouldn't be so antagonistic towards women.