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Thread ID: 16074 | Posts: 9 | Started: 2004-12-24
2004-12-24 01:28 | User Profile
Why I am not a Conservative by Michael Polignano [url="http://www.michaeljpolignano.com/9NOV03.html#editorial"]www.michaeljpolignano.com/9NOV03.html#editorial[/url]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> I supported the Republicans for the same reason I supported the Catholic Church: not because of what they stood for, but because of what they seemed to stand against. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Today I am a conservative in only one sense: I wish to conserve the White race. But the conservative movement is no ally in this cause. Conservatives don't exactly support Whites becoming a minority, but they aren�t willing to oppose it vigorously for fear of being called racists. Instead, conservatives waste their time and energy fighting over far less important matters: school prayer, abortion, homosexuality, Confederate monuments, classical education, Constitutional law, school vouchers, etc. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Christianity has always been dysgenic: encouraging the smartest to become celibate, the noblest to spill their blood in senseless wars, and the least valuable to be fruitful and multiply for they shall inherit the earth. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
[url="http://www.michaeljpolignano.com/9NOV03.html#editorial"]www.michaeljpolignano.com/9NOV03.html#editorial[/url]
2004-12-24 16:12 | User Profile
Another childless pagan telling us how bad Christianity is for the future of the white race.
Another childless pagan telling us how bad Christianity is for the future of the white race, yet offering not the smallest explanation for why the white race is only now starting to fall after Christianity has been displaced with paganism across all the western world.
Another childless pagan unable to see the connection between all those conservative causes he says doesn't matter and the fate of the white race.
2004-12-24 16:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Happy Hacker]Another childless pagan telling us how bad Christianity is for the future of the white race, yet offering not the smallest explanation for why the white race is only now starting to fall after Christianity has been displaced with paganism across all the western world.[/QUOTE] Actually, Christianity is still firmly established in the United States. Other Western nations are considerably more secular, but I know of none in which paganism has made a resurgence.
Putting aside the question of whether Christianity is reality or myth, I think its effects on the White race are both positive and negative. On the plus side, Christianity encourages stable households and concomitant high-investment parenting. On the negative side, Christian morality teaches love for one's enemies, and it insists that its adherents focus on "life after death" rather than life on earth, which can lead (though not inevitably) to complacency and resignation regarding earthly matters such as the survival of the White race.
2004-12-24 17:13 | User Profile
Childless pagan= pure ad hominem attack
You yourself were once childless, that doesn't make you ill informed.
I think you are trying to **infer **that Mr. Polignano has made an ideological choice not to have children. There is no evidence of such a choice.
There is no evidence that Mr. Polignano is a pagan, unless the definition of pagan is ââ¬Åanyone who disagrees with a Christianââ¬Â. An accurate definition of pagan can be found here:
[url="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=pagan&x=0&y=0"]http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=pagan&x=0&y=0[/url]
Mr. Polignano is in fact:
[QUOTE]....telling us how bad Christianity is for the future of the white race [/Quote]
There is no reason to:
[QUOTE]....offering not the smallest explanation for why the white race is only now starting to fall after Christianity has been displaced with paganism across all the western world.[/Quote] because it simply isn't true. The following link demonstrates that 82% of Americans believe Jesus was God.
[url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6650997/site/newsweek/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6650997/site/newsweek/[/url]
And as far as
[QUOTE] ...unable to see the connection between all those conservative causes he says doesn't matter and the fate of the white race. [/Quote] I will refer back to Mr. Polignano's original article which you apparently didn't read.
[QUOTE]Conservatives fail to recognize that everything in Western civilization worth conserving springs from the creative potential of the White gene pool. If that gene pool is destroyed, all of these things will be lost. Conversely, if the White gene pool is preserved, then even if present-day civilization is completely destroyed, we could eventually create a new and even better civilization. It seems laughable to be concerned about whether the Western classics are taught in our schools, but to be indifferent as to whether any Whites are around to appreciate them, much less create new Western classics.[/Quote]
2004-12-24 17:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]Actually, Christianity is still firmly established in the United States. Other Western nations are considerably more secular, but I know of none in which paganism has made a resurgence.
I suppose that depends on how you define Pagan. But, the public and government realm in America is celebrating what appears to be the Winter Solstice.
Putting aside the question of whether Christianity is reality or myth, I think its effects on the White race are both positive and negative. On the plus side, Christianity encourages stable households and concomitant high-investment parenting. On the negative side, Christian morality teaches love for one's enemies, and it insists that its adherents focus on "life after death" rather than life on earth, which can lead (though not inevitably) to complacency and resignation regarding earthly matters such as the survival of the White race.[/QUOTE]
The only people I know who support and have more than two children are Christians. Granted, I know Christians who adopt non-whites, and even import non-white kids from for adoption. And, most churches are probably involved in promoting non-white immigration, even if intentionally. But, it is the non-Christians (and nominal Christians) are are hardcore into promoting immigration. And, they aren't having white children.
Before the 1960s, US immigration policy helped preserve a white nation. After 1960s, non-white immigration and a reduction of white children has been hand-in-hand with attacks on Christianity.
2004-12-24 17:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Cosmotheist]Childless pagan= pure ad hominem attack
You yourself were once childless, that doesn't make you ill informed.
Not an ad hominem attack, merely an illustration that he himself is evidence against his own arguments. Yes, I believe that Mr. Polgnano has made an ideological choice not to have children. I see no evidence on his website that he intends to have children. But, even if he does choose to have several or more children, white birthrates have dropped below replacement level and those whites who reject a substantive Christianity, the pagans, are most guilty of failing to have enough children.
There is no evidence that Mr. Polignano is a pagan, unless the definition of pagan is ââ¬Åanyone who disagrees with a Christianââ¬Â. An accurate definition of pagan can be found here:
Part of the definition you provide includes "one who has little or no religion", which I believe Mr. Polignano has confessed to. Other dictionarys also define Paganism as rejecting Christianity, or as rejecting the religions stemming from the Hebrew scriptures.
because it simply isn't true. The following link demonstrates that 82% of Americans believe Jesus was God.
America has become a pagan nation. 95% of parents send their children to schools where Christianity is banned. Nominal Christianity means nothing. And, Christians are increasingly being forced to keep their Christianity in the closet while cities and states make moves to bring sodomy and paganism into the public square.
I will refer back to Mr. Polignano's original article which you apparently didn't read.[/QUOTE]
I did read Mr. Polignano's article. He says preserving white genes is important. But, he seems to have no idea of how to do it. He fights against some of the things that work best to preserve those white genes. The white race thrived during those days he was whining about the supremacy of Christianity.
2004-12-26 22:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]Actually, Christianity is still firmly established in the United States. Other Western nations are considerably more secular, but I know of none in which paganism has made a resurgence. Christianity of a certain form, that is true. However Christianity's forms can vary greatly from one place to another.
Putting aside the question of whether Christianity is reality or myth, I think its effects on the White race are both positive and negative. On the plus side, Christianity encourages stable households and concomitant high-investment parenting. On the negative side, Christian morality teaches love for one's enemies, and it insists that its adherents focus on "life after death" rather than life on earth, which can lead (though not inevitably) to complacency and resignation regarding earthly matters such as the survival of the White race.[/QUOTE]I'd say its probably akin to how MacDonald describes western characteristics, such as individualism or femininity's tendency toward romantic altruism. Inalieniably and indeliably western, but also prone in the hands of subversive agents to exageration causing pathological characteristics.
2004-12-26 22:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Cosmotheist]Why I am not a Conservative by Michael Polignano [url="http://www.michaeljpolignano.com/9NOV03.html#editorial"]www.michaeljpolignano.com/9NOV03.html#editorial[/url]
Well this Polignano basic knowledge of political philosophy as a whole seems pretty elementary. If we seem a little dismissive Cosmo its in part because we've sen much more elequent expositors of the "paleoconservatism is bad" argument in the past, such as that of the mysterious "Triskelion" in
[URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=72641&postcount=1]The Failure of Paleoconservatism[/URL] [/QUOTE] Isn't Emory a black college BTW?
2004-12-27 01:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Isn't Emory a black college BTW?[/QUOTE] I don't know about the demography, if that's what you mean. This is from their website. [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2] [QUOTE]Emory was founded at Oxford by the Methodist Church in 1836. Led by President James W Wagner, the University has 11,300 students and 2,500 faculty members who represent all regions of the United States and more than 100 foreign nations.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the link[/size][/font] [url="http://showpost.php?p=72641&postcount=1"]The Failure of Paleoconservatism[/url]