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Thread ID: 16046 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2004-12-20
2004-12-20 20:37 | User Profile
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][color=Navy][size=3][font=Palatino,][size=+2][size=2][font=Tahoma]*For those of you unfamiliar with the legal doctrine of 'fighting words' -- * [/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/color][/font][size=2][color=Navy][font=arial]Words which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace, having direct tendency to cause acts of violence by the persons to whom, individually, remark is addressed. The test is what persons of common intelligence would understand to be words likely to cause an average addressee to fight.[/font][font=Arial] [/font][font=arial]SOURCE: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition[/font][/color][/size][color=Navy][size=2][font=Palatino,]
[/font][/size][/color][font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3][font=Palatino,][size=+2][color=#000000] *[size=2][font=Tahoma][color=Navy]This decision states, then, that in Philadelphia, the recitation of Bible verses is so hateful that it causes actual injury to the addressee, and that any person of 'common intelligence' hearing said Bible verses would be so offended that they would be likely to physically assault the speaker.[/color][font=Palatino,]
[/font][/font][/size]* Prosecutor: Bible is 'fighting words'[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino,][size=+1][color=#000000]4 who protested at Philly homosexual event ordered to stand trial, face 47 years in prison [/color][/size][/font] [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]The four are part of 11 demonstrators who went before the Philadelphia Municipal Court in a preliminary hearing this week. Judge William Austin Meehan Tuesday ordered four of the Christians to stand trial on three felony and five misdemeanor charges. If convicted, they could a maximum of 47 years in prison. [/size][/font]
<center></center> [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3][url="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40929"]As WorldNetDaily reported,[/url] on Oct. 10, the group was "preaching God's Word" to a crowd of people attending the outdoor Philadelphia "OutFest" event and displaying banners with biblical messages. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]After a confrontation with a group called the Pink Angels, described by protesters as "a militant mob of homosexuals," the 11 Christians were arrested and spent a night in jail. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]Eight charges were filed: criminal conspiracy, possession of instruments of crime, reckless endangerment of another person, ethnic intimidation, riot, failure to disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]None of the Pink Angels was cited or arrested. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]A video of the arrest, provided by the [url="http://www.afa.net/clp/"]American Family Association's Center for Law & Policy[/url] can be seen [url="http://www.afa.net/clp/videos/philly11.wmv"]here[/url] [*Windows Media*]. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]"First, symbols of Christianity are removed from the public square; now, Christians are facing 47 years in prison because they preached the gospel in the public square. Stalin would be proud," Brian Fahling, AFA Center for Law and Policy senior trial attorney, said in a statement. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]A federal appeals court in Philadelphia denied emergency relief earlier this week despite video footage Fahling calls "undisputed evidence" that shows the Christians cooperating with police and being harassed by the Pink Angels. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]Fahling's group says the Philadelphia city prosecutor in the case, Charles Ehrlich, attacked the defendants as "hateful" and referred to preaching the Bible as "fighting words," a characterization, the law group says, with which Judge Meehan agreed. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]Charges were dropped against the remaining seven Christians, apparently because they were not seen quoting Scripture on the videotape. [/size][/font]
[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]The ethnic intimidation charge stems from Pennsylvania's "hate crimes" law ââ¬â to which the newest "victim" category of "sexual orientation" was recently added.
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[font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=3]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41969
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2004-12-21 05:47 | User Profile
Quantrill,
[SIZE=7][COLOR=Red]Stalin Lives![/COLOR][/SIZE]
2004-12-21 07:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill][font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][color=Navy][size=3][font=Palatino,][size=+2][size=2][font=Tahoma]*For those of you unfamiliar with the legal doctrine of 'fighting words' -- * [/font][/size][/size][/font][/size][/color]Words which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace, having direct tendency to cause acts of violence by the persons to whom, individually, remark is addressed. The test is what persons of common intelligence would understand to be words likely to cause an average addressee to fight.[/font][/QUOTE]
As I understand it, the doctrine of "fighting words" is very speculative as an established legal theory justifying harassment or hate speech ordinances.
Here's another link BTW from Devvy
[URL=http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_constitution&Number=293200494&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1&t=-1#Post293200494]News With Views - Liberty Forum[/URL]
2004-12-21 14:08 | User Profile
Watching the video, the Christians were peacefully protesting. The faggots had organized to obstruct the peaceful proetest by using whistles and other noises to drown out the Christians. And, the faggots carried big pink signs to obstruct the view of the Christian signs. Yet, the Christians were arrested and face legal expenses and possibly years in prison. A faggot civil jury could also impose millions of dollars in judgement.
Where is the "Christian Right" Oh yeah, they're letting America burn while they set fired in other countries.
2004-12-21 20:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Happy Hacker]Where is the "Christian Right" Oh yeah, they're letting America burn while they set fired in other countries.[/QUOTE]Like I said over at Liberty Forum.
[QUOTE]In fact, the Department of Justice could launch its own suit against the city of Philadelpha for civil rights violations from false prosecution.
But who's that Bush DOJ appointee, Gonzales? I wouldn't hold my breath though over that. :lol:
......Anyway, somehow we've got to get people to start holding Bush and the neocon/mainstream GOP accountable for things that are happening in this country. Cause really just about evey piece of rottenness they have a hand in.[/QUOTE] Maybe we should check Free Republic to see what the regular Religious Rightists are saying.