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Thread ID: 15968 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2004-12-14
2004-12-14 15:10 | User Profile
BNP leader Nick Griffin arrested
The leader of the British National Party has been arrested as part of a police inquiry following the screening of a BBC documentary.
A party spokesman said Nick Griffin was arrested on Tuesday morning on suspicion of incitement to commit racial hatred.
West Yorkshire police confirmed they had arrested a 45-year-old man from outside their area.
BNP founding chairman John Tyndall was arrested on Sunday on the same charge.
Criminal damage
In July, the BBC documentary Secret Agent featured covertly-filmed footage of BNP activists.
Mr Griffin is the twelfth man to be arrested following the documentary.
Nine men from West Yorkshire and another man from Leicester have been arrested and freed on bail.
Seven of the men had been held variously in connection with suspected racially aggravated public order offences, conspiracy to commit criminal damage and possession of a firearm.
Two men, both from Keighley, were arrested in September on suspicion of conspiracy to commit criminal damage.
A 24-year-old man from Leicester was detained on Monday on suspicion of incitement to commit racial hatred.
A BNP spokesperson said Mr Tyndall, from Brighton, was arrested following a speech he made in Burnley, Lancashire, and was released on police bail.
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2004-12-14 23:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Seven of the men had been held variously in connection with suspected racially aggravated public order offences, conspiracy to commit criminal damage and possession of a firearm.
How Orwellian. To American Constitutionists, reading shit like this is just surrealistic. I know it's the UK nanny state and it ain't 'murica, but still.
2004-12-15 00:11 | User Profile
Nice to see the British social-fascist pigs revealing themselves in all their totalitarian glory. Arresting Griffin and Tyndall will only strengthen the hands of British patriots. It sounds to me like perhaps an effort to provoke some sort of "terrorist"/armed guerrilla response to the criminal depravities of the British government. While from a moral perspective, this is all but called for, BUT from the perspective of strategic realism, and doing what actually needs doing in order to restore sanity to Britain, it would be a terrible mistake to do what would otherwise be the right thing. If any furious British patriots (and what other could kind could there be?) are reading this, don't let the secret police crowd tempt you into doing their bidding. There will be plenty of time to hang them (and their treasonous enablers in the so-called "Parliament") later.
2004-12-15 02:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]Nice to see the British social-fascist pigs revealing themselves in all their totalitarian glory. Arresting Griffin and Tyndall will only strengthen the hands of British patriots. It sounds to me like perhaps an effort to provoke some sort of "terrorist"/armed guerrilla response to the criminal depravities of the British government.[/QUOTE]Interesting to compare these tactics with those of the Belgians. The Belgians passed a law outlawing a whole party, but never arrested them, while the Brits go after the leadership and actually do arrest them.
The Frankfurt school motivation for both is the same, but the tactics are different.
2004-12-15 02:54 | User Profile
I doubt we can really do justice to this topic by ourselves. Here are the SF links.
[URL=http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=171697]Nick Griffin Arrested (1)[/URL]
[URL=http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=171669]Nick Griffin Arrested (2)[/URL]
It might be interesting to see how we handle topic more pressing than our literary posting virtuousity, and the provocetuers who always manage to keep us fiddling here while Rome burns.
2004-12-15 03:03 | User Profile
Siegfried,
[QUOTE]suspicion of incitement to commit racial hatred[/QUOTE]
In the UK one can be arrested for thoughts. Stalinism lives!
2004-12-15 03:03 | User Profile
I guess the mere arrest of Musli muds for plotting to attack England hasn't shaken the Brits too much. As we speak there are jihadists in some Paki Muslim neighborhood in England planning to strike big and kill lots of Brits. But arrest the Cambridge-educated gentleman whose only crime is loving his country as much as his forefathers did.
Maybe we need to free him and the other BNP guys and give them asylum here. Maybe they can work against the UK's regime from abroad in the way the Iraqi Nat'l Congress did.
2004-12-15 04:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Siegfried,
In the UK one can be arrested for thoughts. Stalinism lives![/QUOTE] Of course, not everyone, even in paleo circles, thinks Stalinism is such a bad thing anyway, as you and I are well aware of. Even the Phora has had a recent conversion, albeit their substiture "white communitarianism" is quite a bit inferior to paleoconservatism.
I've always noticed that when things get hot from Stalinist heat, the macho wannabees but never wazees start drifting back to conservatism and democratic rule of law, and shield themselves in its skirts. How many macho WN's do you think are bound for the UK, prepared for their white jihad? Not many I suspect.
But they may toss off some really mean posts on the anonymous internet :lol:
2004-12-15 04:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I've always noticed that when things get hot from Stalinist heat, the macho wannabees but never wazees start drifting back to conservatism and democratic rule of law, and shield themselves in its skirts. How many macho WN's do you think are bound for the UK, prepared for their white jihad? Not many I suspect.[/QUOTE]
True, but think how much 'democratic rule of law' is part of our core mental state. I can't speak for anyone else here, but ideals like democracy and rule of law have been ingrained in my psychi from the earliest days of my education. I'm sure I'm fairly normal in that regard.
How bad does it have to get before a normal, everyday, working-class middle American grabs his squirrel gun and heads for the courthouse looking for a lynching? I don't know the answer to that question, but I think it would be more than a politician getting arrested, no matter how unjust it may seem to his political sympathizers.
This is bizarre, though.
2004-12-15 05:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]How bad does it have to get before a normal, everyday, working-class middle American grabs his squirrel gun and heads for the courthouse looking for a lynching? I don't know the answer to that question, but I think it would be more than a politician getting arrested, no matter how unjust it may seem to his political sympathizers.
This is bizarre, though.[/QUOTE]Hate to say it, but that's exactly how the people in Germany just after January 1933, or Russia just after November 7, 1917, felt too. So what if a few pols get arrested? Life goes on.
The civil war isn't far away. Unless the anti-zionists, and even anti-PC's, ranks are so decimated by infighting there's no opposing army left to fight. The latter probably isn't far from the truth.
2004-12-15 22:33 | User Profile
I have met Nick Griffin twice at Amren conferences and he is a really nice guy as are his friends he brought with him. The left and the PC gang have finally implemented a true anti-democratic legal system and can send people to jail for expressing their view. The much lauded BBC has given its all for bringing this about and should be feared as Big Brother's propaganda machine. Britain was always weak on rights no matter what you may have heard from the tea and crumpet set. Now it is getting worse, and waves are coming from there to these shores.
2005-01-12 04:43 | User Profile
The BBC is a function of the British State.
It is a socialist, far-left, broadcasting media. It could not survive without the imposed tax upon every single British citizen - under force of law and intimidation.
It is communist in outlook. It is also anti-British.
It employs muslim terrorists on its British taxpayers' payroll while prosecuting British grandmothers for non-payment of immigrant propaganda.
Let us be clear: The BBC is coming to an end. More and more are refusing to pay. And others merely ignore them.
It is perhaps the most hated broadcasting organization in the UK.
Mentzer