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Putin to piss off U.S. by taking on another Jewish thief oil oligarch

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Jack Cassidy [OP]

2004-12-13 06:59 | User Profile

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**[font=Times New Roman][color=#000066]Analysis: Alfa may strain U.S.-Russia ties[/color][/font]**[color=black][font=Verdana] [/font][/color][color=#5f79a3]By Martin Sieff[/color][color=black][font=Verdana] [/font][/color]**[color=#5f79a3]UPI Senior News Analyst[/color]**[color=black][font=Verdana] [/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]Washington[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana], [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]DC[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana], Dec. 9 (UPI) -- Fresh from demolishing Yukos oil, the Kremlin has launched a new financial offensive another oligarch-controlled corporation, raising the prospect of increasingly strained ties with the [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]United States[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]. [/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the billionaire oligarch who founded Yukos and ran it as its chief executive officer has been in jail for more than a year in [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Moscow[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] and is on trial on charges of massive fraud and tax evasion. Yukos is being dismembered after being hit with one enormous Russian federal tax claim after another.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]And on Wednesday this week, Mikhail Fridman, another of the handful of oligarchs who grabbed control of the commanding heights of the Russian economy after the collapse of communism, discovered he made be facing the same kind of experience.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]Fridman is the chairman of the vast Alfa Group, which owns 25 percent of Vimpel-Communications or VimpelCom, the second largest Russian mobile phone company. On Wednesday, the company announced it had been hit with a shock preliminary audit from the Russian tax ministry for 4.4 billion in rubles, or $157.8 million in back taxes for 2001.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]The company announced it would file an appeal against the finding, but the value of its American Depository Receipts plunged by more than one-fifth in value in New York trading on the news.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]The pattern of a massive back tax claim for a period several years ago is exactly the same way the Kremlin began its assault on Yukos. Later, more back tax claims for equally vast sums were added. Fridman and VimpelCom now could face the same kind of escalating fiscal assault on their financial viability by the Russian government.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]The prospect of a Kremlin-backed assault on Fridman and Alfa could herald a new stage in Russian President Vladimir Putin's continuing drive against the oligarchs. During his 2004 re-election campaign, he made no secret he believed many of them were a destabilizing threat to the Russian state, that they controlled far too much of the national wealth and that their power was not good for the general health of the Russian economy or to the benefit of the Russian people.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]In the past, Fridman and Alfa stood aside and gleefully watched while Putin went after Khodorkovsky and Yukos. But over the past year, Fridman's own ambitions came into direct conflict with business interests closely allied with the Russian president.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]In 2004, Alfa purchased 25 percent of Megafon, [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]'s third-largest mobile phone operator. But the St. Petersburg-based holding company Telecominvest fought to try and keep Alfa out of this purchase.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]Telecominvest was founded in 1994 by two Putin associates, Leonid Reiman, who is now [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]'s minister of technology, and Valeri Yashin, who runs the state-controlled telecommunications holding company Svyazinvest. Putin is from [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]St. Petersburg[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] himself and has run [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] in part through a close network of loyal insiders from there.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]In the past, whenever Putin has moved against a major oligarch to drive him out of the country or strip him of his power or both, his actions have not noticeably damaged diplomatic relations with the [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]United States[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] or the European Union. The assault on Alfa could follow the same pattern, some experts believe.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]"What remains to be seen is if this new development will have any significant impact on the warm personal ties that have existed between Putin and (President George W.) Bush," said Marshall Goldman, emeritus professor of Russian economics at [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Harvard[/font][/color][color=black][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]University[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] and associate director of Harvard's [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Davis[/font][/color][color=black][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Center[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana].[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]However, Goldman also noted that since the slaughter of 344 people, including 190 children, by Chechen militants in Beslan in early September, Putin has become far more angry and sensitive about Western actions and criticisms that he thinks may threaten the unity and national security of [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana].[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]"Putin said in a speech on Sept. 4 that there seemed to be an effort afoot to deconstruct [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] as a nuclear power," Goldman said. "Ever since then he sees anything that cause instability as part of that process."[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]The Bush administration started out quite critical of Putin's policies on human rights and freedom of the press with national security adviser Condoleezza Rice leading the charge. And Bush has picked Rice to be the next secretary of state.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]However, Bush and Putin hit it off at their first meeting in [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Slovenia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] in 2001, and then Putin consistently offered the [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]United States[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] warm and strong support in the war on terror following the attacks of [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Sept. 11, 2001[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]. Only this week, the FBI and [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]'s Federal Security Service, or FSB, announced a new and potentially far-reaching alliance to coordinate their efforts in the fight against international terrorism.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]U.S.[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] policy toward [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] on human rights issues, freedom of the press and preventing major state interventions in the operation of private companies has been marked by its absence rather than its consistency, Sarah Mendelson, an associate fellow on Eurasian affairs at [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Washington[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]'s Center for Strategic and International Studies told United Press International.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]"This administration has dramatically under-invested in democracy and human rights in [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] exactly as threats to democracy and human rights there have increased," Mendelson said. "There have been repeated and evolving assaults on democracy in [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] over the past years and the Bush administration has turned a blind eye.[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]"There has even been some discussion (in the administration) that in fiscal year 2006 they will zero out [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]U.S.[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] aid (to Russian human rights organizations)."[/font][/color] [color=black][font=Verdana]By itself, therefore, the new drive against Alfa looks unlikely to change the direction of the Bush administration's policy toward [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]Russia[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]. But the growing surge in suspicion of the [/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana]United States[/font][/color][color=black][font=Verdana] among Russian policymakers may yet provoke such a reassessment, whether Bush wants it or not.[/font][/color] --- ### Blond Knight *2004-12-14 03:31* | [User Profile](/od/user/231) Gosh, there actually is a leader of a major nation that dares to put the interests of his nation above those of the kosher pirates. Somthing tells me that the holy kosher globalist string pullers won't let this latest affront go unanswered. Oy Vey!! Ve are be-ink piosecuted ! It's anuder pogrom. Dis crazy goy vants to kill 666 million,oy, 66 million,oy, 6 million, ya dat's it, anuder 6 million of God's self annionted vill dye in dose gas chambers!! Oy, Oy, yust like it vas in da last century, ve start out in 1900 vit only 12 million of God's chosen, den after 6 million killed in dat foist vorld vaar, und anuder 6 million killed in dat sekund vorld var, der vas only 18 million of us left at der end of the 20th century. Und now dat evil goyim, Putin, vants to kill the few of ust dats left. Oy, Oy. **************************** Putin plans war on oligarchs: [url]http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/05/Oligarchs_260504.html[/url] Russia's Robber Barons: [url]http://www.ety.com/HRP/pol/rusrobbers.htm[/url] Fridman's Kosher Credentials: [url]http://www.ncsj.org/AuxPages/102202JTA.shtml[/url] --- ### Ponce *2004-12-14 03:48* | [User Profile](/od/user/901) At least Putin has the guts to do something about those people before they ruin Russia like they have done to the USA. Unless something drastic is done about those people we all may as well buy a bennie cap and learn how to bang our heads against a "holy wall". At this time I am willing to accept a dictator in the US as long as he first gets rid of all Zionists Jews. After that happens there will be no need for him to be a dictator for peace will be king in the USA and the world. BRING BACK CHRISTMAS AS WE ALL KNOW IT, SAY "MERRY CHRISTMAS" TO EVERYONE YOU MEET, SPECIALLY THE JEWS, AND IF A JEW GIVES YOU A "CHALOM" THEN YOU GIVE HIM A "SAALAM ALEIKUM" RIGHT BACK. --- ### Okiereddust *2004-12-16 07:35* | [User Profile](/od/user/29) [QUOTE=Blond Knight]Gosh, there actually is a leader of a major nation that dares to put the interests of his nation above those of the kosher pirates. [/QUOTE] Ah - I don't know now. I don't think you should look at Putin with Rose colored glasses. Most of the capitalism, and many other non-government organization in Russia, is controlled by Jews now, so if you want to go after capitalism, you can't help but go after Jews. I'm starting to suspect Putin is playing the old game of playing off the Jews and Gentiles to stay in power, that game that Stalin as MacDonald described played so effectively. I don't think you avoid seeing where he seems to be taking his country. Jewish oligarchs or old line *nomenklatura* - it sure is a bad situation for a country to be in - that's for sure. Sort of like Bush or Kerry here. --- ### Petr *2004-12-16 10:11* | [User Profile](/od/user/1012) [I] - "Most of the capitalism, and many other non-government organization in Russia, is controlled by Jews now, so if you want to go after capitalism, you can't help but go after Jews." [/I] Okie, I think you are being unnecessarily pessimistic, and overestimating Jews. We should get rid of this superstitious awe of Jews that regards them as some sort of invincible overmen. (Have you already seen this thread of mine: [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15838&highlight=indians[/url] Can you give us any statistical information that would indicate that Jews do indeed control [B]most[/B] of the capitalism in Russia nowadays? Petr --- ### Walter Yannis *2004-12-16 11:24* | [User Profile](/od/user/57) [QUOTE]I'm starting to suspect Putin is playing the old game of playing off the Jews and Gentiles to stay in power, that game that Stalin as MacDonald described played so effectively. I don't think you avoid seeing where he seems to be taking his country. Jewish oligarchs or old line nomenklatura - it sure is a bad situation for a country to be in - that's for sure.[/QUOTE] I agree with that. Putin's playing Stalin's game, although I doubt he envisions a renewed GULAG - mass terror is just bad for business, and these guys like money more than the Jewish Bolsheviks. They dig playing ball with the big boys of international finance. They want to join the billionaire's club. In my view what's happening in Russia is that the Jewish oligarchy is being replaced with a (mostly) Russian one. Overall it's a good thing because the Russian oligarchy is bound to be much broader than the Jewish one, but it won't be particularly fun either. Russia has an irretrievably corrupt political system. "The best court system money can buy." Putin's efforts at fighting corruption have been half-hearted thus far. It's not like he's out to establish justice. But on the other hand Putin has done a lot of things to improve the tax climate, a major step. My prediction is that the future will be a somewhat nicer and more Russian version of what they have now. The Russian Presidency will become ever more imperial, the Parliament more and more a rubber stamp. But people will be allowed to breath - read what they want (mostly, but expect some censorship around the person of the President), run a business, buy and sell, travel abroad, and so forth. But real political power will continue to concentrate into the imperial Presidency. --- ### Walter Yannis *2004-12-16 11:31* | [User Profile](/od/user/57) [QUOTE=Petr][I] - Can you give us any statistical information that would indicate that Jews do indeed control [B]most[/B] of the capitalism in Russia nowadays?Petr[/QUOTE] The great majority of the Forbes "Russian Billionaires" list are non-Russian, most of them Jews. --- ### travis *2004-12-16 13:45* | [User Profile](/od/user/646) It would not surprise me in the least if Putin turned out to be Jewish and that all this is just a drama being played for our benefit. It would be quite easy for these Jewish oligarchs to have cronies play the derivatives games with their corporations as they shift ownership around to another Jew. What better way to make the world think Putin opposes organized Jewry and initiate the complacency of the opposition? Whatever is expedient, whatever has strategic value.....you can bet they are doing it. They know this game a lot better than we do. --- ### Petr *2004-12-16 14:02* | [User Profile](/od/user/1012) [I] - "It would not surprise me in the least if Putin turned out to be Jewish and that all this is just a drama being played for our benefit." [/I] Spare us from your silly paranoia. Petr --- ### Petr *2004-12-16 14:03* | [User Profile](/od/user/1012) [I] - "The great majority of the Forbes "Russian Billionaires" list are non-Russian, most of them Jews."[/I] Even if true, this still wouldn't imply "control" of capitalism. Petr --- ### travis *2004-12-16 14:07* | [User Profile](/od/user/646) [QUOTE=Petr] Spare us from your silly paranoia. [/QUOTE] It might work on some of the youngsters at the Phora, but you're not going to police my thoughts with ad hominem. One man's vigilance is another man's "paranoia". --- ### xmetalhead *2004-12-16 14:31* | [User Profile](/od/user/80) Travis, didn't you know, the jewish/zionist cabal is just a figment of the imagination? :ninja: Basically, the jews only really control delicatessens. A friggin' virtual monopoly on pastrami and corned beef, I say! Ah, well, at least they don't own, or are even involved in, TV stations and Hollywood studios, publishing houses, newspapers, Wall Street, diamond buisnesses, US foreign policy, US social policy, religious dialogue, think-tanks..... or we'd all be screwed!!! --- ### Walter Yannis *2004-12-16 15:15* | [User Profile](/od/user/57) [QUOTE=Petr][I] - "The great majority of the Forbes "Russian Billionaires" list are non-Russian, most of them Jews."[/I] Even if true, this still wouldn't imply "control" of capitalism. Petr[/QUOTE] Why do you say that? When Chubais gave away Russia's industrial crown jewels 1995-1997 through cravenly rigged tenders, the winners were mostly Jews. Berezovsky got a big chunk of Russia's automotive industry, Gusinsky got television, Khodorkovsky got oil, the Chyorny brothers got non-ferrous metals, Smolensky got all state agricultural loans. The list goes on and on. They did this through founding Financial Industrial Groups that were based around their phoney-baloney banks who wound up with a stranglehold on the entire country. Smolensky owned SMS-Agro, for example. Khodorkovsky owned Menatep. Fridman owned Alfa. All of them entered into a scam with Yeltsin to take workers' payrolls and invest them in high interest government bonds. Billions left the country this way. Entire swaths of Russia's economy were stolen. What's left? Well, a lot, but there's no question in my mind that the Jewish Oligarchs controlled Russian "capitalism." --- ### Okiereddust *2004-12-16 20:22* | [User Profile](/od/user/29) [QUOTE=Petr]Can you give us any statistical information that would indicate that Jews do indeed control [B]most[/B] of the capitalism in Russia nowadays? Petr[/QUOTE]Just check all the prominent names. Wake up and smell the coffee Petr. --- ### Ponce *2004-12-16 22:07* | [User Profile](/od/user/901) [QUOTE=Okiereddust]Just check all the prominent names. Wake up and smell the coffee Petr.[/QUOTE] Why read the Russinas names? read the one right here in the US of A. Some of them even if they sound "American" are Jews in camuflage, the same as in the Rodina. --- ### Petr *2004-12-17 10:46* | [User Profile](/od/user/1012) [B] - "Why do you say that?"[/B] Because I think that even though Jews may have "controlled" Russian capitalism to a great extent in the 1990s, they do not anymore. I was talking about present day. Petr --- ### Walter Yannis *2004-12-17 11:58* | [User Profile](/od/user/57) [QUOTE=Petr][B] - "Why do you say that?"[/B] Because I think that even though Jews may have "controlled" Russian capitalism to a great extent in the 1990s, they do not anymore. I was talking about present day. Petr[/QUOTE] Certainly the Russians have made advances under Putin. But huge swaths of the economy remain under Jewish control. The fight has really just begun. Walter --- ### travis *2004-12-17 12:19* | [User Profile](/od/user/646) How does one determine who is Jewish and who is Russian? They look about the same. That said, does it make sense to believe someone is not Jewish just because of some "news" drama being played out on the media? Does it not make sense that feining anti-Semitism is a good way to play the gentile role? --- ### Petr *2004-12-18 10:52* | [User Profile](/od/user/1012) [I] - "The fight has really just begun."[/I] Amen to that. Petr --- ### Blond Knight *2004-12-25 17:27* | [User Profile](/od/user/231) [url]http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=4393[/url] Putin stands up to the New World Order Report; Posted on: 2004-12-25 11:33:19 Vladimir Vladimirovich points out double standards by Jason Conely Yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a year-end press conference in the Kremlin before foreign and Russian journalists. I happened to have the privilege of watching PutinÃ¢â¬â¢s performance, and I must say that I was very impressed with his answers. Watching Putin and Bush answer questions from journalists, one immediately sees the difference. I would like to briefly point out some of the main topics discussed by during the press conference: First, it was clear that the questions and answers were not scripted. Putin did not read from notes, and it was remarkable how he was able to quickly respond with facts and figures to the wide range of questions posed to him. IÃ¢â¬â¢d have to say that main theme, if one can call it a theme, of the press conference was PutinÃ¢â¬â¢s pointing to the double standards being used to judge Russia in world affairs. Regarding so-called Ã¢â¬Ådemocracy,Ã¢â¬Â he quickly pointed out that while outside powers forced the Macedonian government to allow the Albanian ethnic minority have representation in the government according to its percentage of the population, when ethnic Russians in Riga also ask for such representation, itÃ¢â¬â¢s somehow different. Putin also said that he opposed the Soros/Freedom House/CIA sponsored revolutions that seem to be all the rage these days. Ã¢â¬ÅA system of permanent revolutions, rose revolutions, or others is very dangerous. We must learn to live according to the law, which is my greatest concern, and not by political expediency that is considered somewhere else for one people or another,Ã¢â¬Â was his response to a reporterÃ¢â¬â¢s question regarding his position on the current political situation in Ukraine. He said that it was like a football match that had its rules changed once it already began. As another example of he double standards regarding democracy, Putin pointed out that while the Ã¢â¬ÅWestÃ¢â¬Â was against any election in Chechnya, they seem to be quite willing to accept the seriously flawed election that was held in Afghanistan. He said that he could not see how elections could be held in Iraq when it is a country currently occupied by foreign troops. Putin also reminded the journalists that the OSCE recognized the results of elections in Kosovo, which shows that there are double standards when it comes to himan rights. When a Polish journalist asked Putin about Polish President KwasniewskiÃ¢â¬â¢s remark that Russia without Ukraine is better for the United States than Russia with Ukraine, he said that this sounded like a statement made by a man who is looking for a new job once his term expires. Ã¢â¬ÅThe head of a country respected throughout the world should refrain from commenting on the policies of another country. When a Georgian journalists asked Putin if RussiaÃ¢â¬â¢s position on Abkhazia is an example of RussiaÃ¢â¬â¢s own double standards and said that it has caused anger Ã¢â¬Ånot only in Georgia, but also the whole West,Ã¢â¬Â he asked if the whole West also received its wages from George Soros. Lastly, I would like to point out that Putin defended the purchase of a Yukos oil-producing division by Rosnfet. He said that after the illegal privatizations of the 1990s, the Russian state is simply defending its own interests. Actually, it is very rare when the natural resources of a country are not controlled by the State. The United States is the biggest exception. Most other countries, such as France, control their natural resources. Putin said that the state is simply using legal mechanisms to protect Russian interests. Source: Author Ã¢â¬Â¢ Printed from National Vanguard ( [url]http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4393[/url] ) National Alliance Ã¢â¬Â¢ Box 90 Ã¢â¬Â¢ Hillsboro Ã¢â¬Â¢ WV 24946 Ã¢â¬Â¢ USA NationalVanguard.org --- ?>