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2004-12-07 01:38 | User Profile
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Coulter: Canada is "lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent"; Carlson: "Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras"
On November 30, as President Bush visited Canada to meet with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in an effort to improve the two countries' strained relations, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter and CNN Crossfire co-host Tucker Carlson ridiculed the United States' northern neighbor. On FOX News Channel's Hannity & Colmes, Coulter said that Canadians "better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent." On CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports, Carlson stated: "Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras, but colder and much less interesting"; he went on to say that instead of following politics, "the average Canadian is busy dogsledding." And on Crossfire, Carlson referred to the "limpid, flaccid nature of Canadian society."
Canada is the United States' largest trade partner. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, U.S. trade with Canada accounted for a cumulative $38.5 billion dollars in September 2004 alone. Further, as Bush noted in a December 1 speech in Halifax, Nova Scotia, "Canada has taken a series of critical steps to guard against the danger of terrorism." In its country profile of Canada, the U.S. State Department website notes:
The bilateral relationship between the United States and Canada is perhaps the closest and most extensive in the world. It is reflected in the staggering volume of trade--the equivalent of over $1 billion a day in goods, services, and investment income--and people, more than 200 million a year crossing the U.S.-Canadian border. In fields ranging from law enforcement cooperation to environmental cooperation to free trade, the two countries have set the standard by which many other countries measure their own progress.
Below are excerpts from Coulter's and Carlson's Canada-bashing.
From the November 30 edition of FOX News' Hannity & Colmes:
COULTER: Conservatives, as a general matter, take the position that you should not punish your friends and reward your enemies. And Canada has become trouble recently.
It's -- I suppose it's always, I might add, the worst Americans who end up going there. The Tories after the Revolutionary War, the Vietnam draft dodgers after Vietnam. And now after this election, you have the blue-state people moving up there.
[...]
COULTER: There is also something called, when you're allowed to exist on the same continent of the United States of America, protecting you with a nuclear shield around you, you're polite and you support us when we've been attacked on our own soil. They [Canada] violated that protocol.
[...]
COULTER: [B]They better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.[/B]
[...]
COULTER: We could have taken them [Canada] over so easily.
[ALAN] COLMES: We could have taken them over? Is that what you want?
COULTER: Yes, but no. All I want is the western portion, the ski areas, the cowboys, and the right-wingers.
[...]
COULTER: They don't even need to have an army, because they are protected, because they're on the same continent with the United States of America. If we were not the United States of America, Canada -- I mean, we're their trading partner. We keep their economy afloat.
[...]
ELLIS HENICAN [Newsday columnist]: We share a lot of culture and a lot of interests. Why do we want to have to ridicule them and be deeply offended if they disagree with us?
[B]COULTER: Because they speak French.[/B]
COLMES: There's something else I want to point out about the French. Is it's fashionable again on your side to denounce the French.
COULTER: We like the English-speaking Canadians.
From the November 30 edition of CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports:
CARLSON: [B]Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras, but colder and much less interesting.[/B]
[...]
CARLSON: We exploit your [addressing Canadian Member of Parliament Carolyn Parrish] natural resources, that's true. But in the end, Canadians with ambition move to the United States. That has been sort of the trend for decades. It says something not very good about Canada. And I think it makes Canadians feel bad about themselves and I understand that.
[...]
CARLSON: Canada needs the United States. The United States does not need Canada.
[...]
[B]CARLSON: I think if Canada were responsible for its own security -- you would be invaded by Norway if it weren't for the United States.[/B]
[...]
CARLSON: [A]bsolutely the countries will remain allies and there will always be politicians who see it to their benefit to stomp on Bush dolls [referring to action taken by Parrish]. But no, I don't think the average Canadian feels -- [B]the average Canadian is busy dogsledding.[/B]
[...]
PARRISH: No, there's not a lot of dogsledding. There's a lot of dog walking, my friend. Not a lot of dogsledding.
CARLSON: Welcome to our century.
From the November 30 edition of CNN's Crossfire:
CARLSON: [B]Canada's essentially -- essentially a made-in-Taiwan version of the United States. [/B]
[...]
CARLSON: I'm surprised there was anybody left in Canada to attend the protests. I noticed that most sort of vigorous, ambitious Canadians, at least almost all comedians in Canada, come to the United States in the end. [B]Doesn't that tell you something about the sort of limpid, flaccid nature of Canadian society, that people with ambition come here?[/B] What does that tell you about Canada?
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Thought Friedrich Braun and Walter might appreciate this ;)
2004-12-07 06:32 | User Profile
Coulter says that the Canadians are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent. Doesn't she realize that she and her fellow neocons are lucky that someone doesn't knock them off? People like her, who espouse a "might makes right" worldview, ought to think twice about what that really entails.
Besides, the US can't even handle Iraq, so what makes clowns like Coulter think that Canada would be any easier?
2004-12-07 13:56 | User Profile
He-man Coulter is such a vile human being. Why doesn't she, or why didn't she, join up with the US military as a soldier or even an embedded reporter/journalist in Iraq if she's so shill about calling people or countries pussies who don't feel aggressive war is worth fighting and unrighteous as well???? Because she's a c*nt, that's why.
The neo-cons have no problem fighting the war on terror down to the last American soldier. They have no problem denouncing foreign countries who have the common sense to stay out of a bloody debacle that doesn't serve one iota of their interest.
Having the Coulters of this world resting nicely in the US means nothing but trouble and a headache, to boot, from hearing them shrill all the time.
2004-12-07 15:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]He-man Coulter is such a vile human being. Why doesn't she, or why didn't she, join up with the US military as a soldier or even an embedded reporter/journalist in Iraq if she's so shill about calling people or countries pussies who don't feel aggressive war is worth fighting and unrighteous as well???? Because she's a c*nt, that's why. [/QUOTE]
Hey, go easy on my girl, X.
While I don't doubt that she's in bed with the Circumscised, let's face the fact that there's a high babe factor here weighing in her favor.
Ask yourself this: would you kick her out for eating crackers?
I think I can speak for nearly every heterosexual, middle-aged, overweight American professional male that not only would I not kick her out, I'd buy her a whole boxcar of saltines.
2004-12-07 15:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Hey, go easy on my girl, X.
While I don't doubt that she's in bed with the Circumscised, let's face the fact that there's a high babe factor here weighing in her favor.
Ask yourself this: would you kick her out for eating crackers?
I think I can speak for nearly every heterosexual, middle-aged, overweight American professional male that not only would I not kick her out, I'd buy her a whole boxcar of saltines.[/QUOTE]
I might've been a little hard on the lady Walter, you're right.
I'll also add that beauty is only skin deep too.
The double standards that these people live by and convince the unwashed masses that it's truth, is pure ugliness.
2004-12-07 16:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]I'll also add that beauty is only skin deep too..[/QUOTE]
And that's all it needs to be, X.
Good enough for government work!
2004-12-07 18:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]Coulter says that the Canadians are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent. Doesn't she realize that she and her fellow neocons are lucky that someone doesn't knock them off? People like her, who espouse a "might makes right" worldview, ought to think twice about what that really entails.
Besides, the US can't even handle Iraq, so what makes clowns like Coulter think that Canada would be any easier?[/QUOTE]Well to be fair, its not only Coulter that thinks Canada is a worthy target. See [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14930&highlight=sands]Canada Drips With Oil, But Its Hard to Get At [/URL]
And personally, I and a lot of people don't have a great deal of respect for the Canadaian government or a lot of the people up there, whose policies for harassing good Canadians like Mark Lemire lead them to label it "Cuba North". But obviously I the only way we're going to go about it presently involves currying favor with the neo-cons and whatever trend they favor at the moment.
Personally though I don't think Coulter is bad hearted like the neo's, I think she's just a little slow. Like AntiYuppie's favorite phrase - Limbaugh and Bimbo.
2004-12-07 18:31 | User Profile
Canada may be the biggest trading partner with the US, but you can pretty well guess that means wood from Canada and food from America. And, yes, it's hard to have respect for the Canadian governmet where censorship and homosexuals are their two top causes.
2004-12-07 23:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE][B]Coulter: Canada is "lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent"; Carlson: "Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras" [/B]
On November 30, as President Bush visited Canada to meet with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in an effort to improve the two countries' strained relations, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter and CNN Crossfire co-host Tucker Carlson ridiculed the United States' northern neighbor. On FOX News Channel's Hannity & Colmes, Coulter said that Canadians "better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent." On CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports, Carlson stated: "Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras, but colder and much less interesting"; he went on to say that instead of following politics, "the average Canadian is busy dogsledding." And on Crossfire, Carlson referred to the "limpid, flaccid nature of Canadian society." [/QUOTE]From my book: [QUOTE]General George Catlett Marshall thought his countrymen's recollection of the War of 1812 was so skewed so as to remember some isolated sea battles won by privateers over unsupported English naval vessels [COLOR=Red]while forgetting the drubbings we received when invading Canada[/COLOR]. At the onset of that war Marshall remembered American forces as numbering 89 effectives. An entire army had to be created. Marshall was publicly recounting his views of problems confronting the professional soldier in a speech delivered on November 6, 1938 less than a week before the twentieth anniversary of the Armistice ending World War I and Crystallnacht, the night the Nazis rioted in Germany. "[COLOR=Red]Public opinion, and - mark that well - public opinion forced us immediately to an invasion of Canada, and we enjoyed a series of the most humiliating military episodes on record[/COLOR]." The unpleasant burning of Washington by Admiral Cockburn's forces has been remembered as a temporary lapse by a valiant army rather than a rout where the army and populace behaved cravenly. The great American victory which is remembered has been that of Jackson at New Orleans. While this triumph was over British forces which had beaten Napoleon's army, it was also accomplished after the peace Treaty of Ghent had been signed. During the 1830 school year in Germany philosopher and historian Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel lectured his students he judged the performance of the American militia indifferent.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Americans much prefer to picture ourselves as nature's good guys and always incredibly and inhumanly brave and noble.
2004-12-08 01:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]While I don't doubt that she's in bed with the Circumscised, let's face the fact that there's a high babe factor here weighing in her favor.
Ask yourself this: would you kick her out for eating crackers?[/QUOTE]
There are lots of nice-looking ladies out there, so its no great achievement on her part. In my opinion, she looks vaguely like a camel, or perhaps a giraffe.
If one less neo-con means one less (dubious) babe, bring on the guillotine!
2004-12-08 01:38 | User Profile
I hate to destroy your fantasies, Walter, but look at whom Ann has been eating cookies with! She is one of the biggest hypocrites out there. I read the story originally in the Washington Post, but it is under maintanance. The story that this exerpt is from also states that she met him on the street! I doubt that he is white.
Oh, The Irony: Ann Coulter Dating a Muslim
Well, if you can't bait 'em - date 'em. Shortly after penning an op-ed where she calls for a modern-day Crusade against Islam, columnist Ann Coulter began dating a successful Muslim financier in New York. "It seems perfectly logical to me," says Coulter, who once wrote that Muslims should be deported from America. "It's not like I'm dating a Democrat." When pressed about the hypocrisy considering her stand on Islam and the Muslim world, she retorted, "I'll sic Mustafa -- not his real name -- on you." (Wow - a right-wing raving lunatic with a sense of humor.) I suppose the "bad boy" image that Coulter is so fond of painting Muslims with was just too hard for her to resist. Whether Coulter's personal life will affect her editorial judgement has yet to be determined.
[url]http://www.altmuslim.com/politics_comments.php?id=219_0_10_30_C[/url]
2004-12-08 02:34 | User Profile
I'm surprised Coulter hasn't waged a one-woman campaign to eradicate French from every nook-and-cranny of American life, from classes in schools, to foods in supermarkets to restaurants. What a fool--she'll degrade her own blood simply because they speak a different language other than English. Would she degrade the third-world trash that live there, or the Asian Invasion aftermath of Hongcouver? [B]Non, je vous remercie.[/B]
2004-12-08 04:15 | User Profile
Perhaps those saltines could go a long way toward filling out her anorexic, emaciated frame?
2004-12-08 05:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]Hey, go easy on my girl, X.
While I don't doubt that she's in bed with the Circumscised, let's face the fact that there's a high babe factor here weighing in her favor.
Ask yourself this: would you kick her out for eating crackers?
I think I can speak for nearly every heterosexual, middle-aged, overweight American professional male that not only would I not kick her out, I'd buy her a whole boxcar of saltines.[/QUOTE] She is disgusting looking on tv, and having met her in person I can say she is positively repulsive in person. Even though I have dated beautiful women I don't think my standards are that high for saying a women is attractive (maybe 30%-40% of all women, IMO). Coulter is unattractive, and I don't think she could doll herself up to even almost-attractive.
Perhaps you're attracted to her two-pack-a-day raspy voice?
2004-12-08 06:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jack Cassidy]She is disgusting looking on tv, and having met her in person I can say she is positively repulsive in person. Even though I have dated beautiful women I don't think my standards are that high for saying a women is attractive (maybe 30%-40% of all women, IMO). Coulter is unattractive, and I don't think she could doll herself up to even almost-attractive.
Perhaps you're attracted to her two-pack-a-day raspy voice?[/QUOTE]
All I can say is you have far higher standards than this old sailor.
I recall long ago I was on liberty in a bar in Southampton when a soused Welsh sailor boy slapped me on the back and slurred "Yank, the secret to your success is to GO UGLY EARLY."
Words of wisdom, Jack. Words of wisdom.
And believe me, Ann Coulter would have been top pickings at that bar, where there were some butt ugly girls, I'm telling you.
Walter
2004-12-08 17:42 | User Profile
My vote goes to Coulter as skank nasty. Ugghh... She's so skinny she's gotta dance around in the shower just to get wet and a face only a mother could love. Nasty. I like a little meat on a woman. Not alot, but somethin'. Plus she's a loudmouth and I can't stand that.
2004-12-08 18:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]My vote goes to Coulter as skank nasty. Ugghh... She's so skinny she's gotta dance around in the shower just to get wet and a face only a mother could love. Nasty. I like a little meat on a woman. Not alot, but somethin'. Plus she's a loudmouth and I can't stand that.[/QUOTE] ROTFL!!!!
Btw, I'm not sure bitch wouldn't be a better description than loudmouth. But either way, if a woman's attractive these things tend to be overlooked (initially that is, and after that she could look like Elizabeth Hurley and you'd rather watch a "Rock, Paper, Scissors" competition on tv).
2004-12-08 19:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]All I can say is you have far higher standards than this old sailor.
I recall long ago I was on liberty in a bar in Southampton when a soused Welsh sailor boy slapped me on the back and slurred "Yank, the secret to your success is to GO UGLY EARLY."
Words of wisdom, Jack. Words of wisdom.
And believe me, Ann Coulter would have been top pickings at that bar, where there were some butt ugly girls, I'm telling you.
Walter[/QUOTE] All of us are kind of like "Shallow Hal" given certain triggers. Remember back in high school when it was possible to go from zero interest to consuming infatuaton simple based on some insignificant thing, event or dream, only you could relate to? And, tastes change. Back in high school I think it was Cindy Crawford everyone liked, but I didn't because I liked blonds. Today I find very few blonds attractive (and certainly no artificial blonds-- beyond gross). Anyway, I think I realized in my mid-twenties that what makes a woman attractive is 20% objective looks, 20% mannerisms, 20% circumstances, and 40% how they view you.
One of my favorite redneck hats reads: Life's a bitch... then you marry one.
2004-12-10 16:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jack Cassidy]She is disgusting looking on tv, and having met her in person I can say she is positively repulsive in person. Even though I have dated beautiful women I don't think my standards are that high for saying a women is attractive (maybe 30%-40% of all women, IMO). Coulter is unattractive, and I don't think she could doll herself up to even almost-attractive.[/QUOTE]
I gotta agree with Mr. Cassidy here, and few would accuse me of having strict standards where women are concerned (I like most White women between the ages of 18-50, fat ones included). Coulter is a beast. And even if she were a lovely lady on the outside, that persona of hers would turn it all into pungent filth; she's a disgusting person in a way which transcends mere physical beauty (which she lacks anyway, IMHO). Walter's clearly got that thing for slender blondes, which almost all of us had at one time, but which most of us tend to trade in for other preferences as time goes on. Apparently, Walter is an authentic slender-blonde-admirer (as opposed to a media-manufactured one, like most of us were when we were kids - as if Farrah Fawcett was really that great, for crying out loud). Now Catherine Zeta Jones, on the other hand....
2004-12-11 06:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe][rest deleted]when we were kids - as if Farrah Fawcett was really that great, for crying out loud). Now Catherine Zeta Jones, on the other hand....[/QUOTE] I'm surprised someone on this forum would be attracted to an Asiatic-looking woman, if she is not, in fact, part Asian. This struck me as odd and I'm not part of the neo-nazi/white racialist crowd. Perhaps I'm a metaphysical racialist because everytime I contemplate the Platonic Form of woman she is 100% white.
2004-12-11 14:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jack Cassidy]I'm surprised someone on this forum would be attracted to an Asiatic-looking woman, if she is not, in fact, part Asian. This struck me as odd and I'm not part of the neo-nazi/white racialist crowd. Perhaps I'm a metaphysical racialist because everytime I contemplate the Platonic Form of woman she is 100% white.[/QUOTE]
She's Welsh, isn't she?
It never occurred to me that she might be mixed race. Am I missing something?
Walter
2004-12-11 16:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jack Cassidy]I'm surprised someone on this forum would be attracted to an Asiatic-looking woman, if she is not, in fact, part Asian. This struck me as odd and I'm not part of the neo-nazi/white racialist crowd. Perhaps I'm a metaphysical racialist because everytime I contemplate the Platonic Form of woman she is 100% white.[/QUOTE]
My understanding is she's half Welsh and half Argentine (an Argentine mother of nearly full European descent, albeit with a slight mestizo taint). She never struck me as appearing remotely Asiatic, although I suppose the presence of that relative handful of mestizo-derived genes (the lady is something like 90-95% of European descent; I consider her White), being from the low-rent side of the Pacific and all, might possibly configure themselves in such a way as to create such an impression on people. It never left such an impression on me, however. I tend to think of her as looking like a beautiful Spanish lass, for what its worth.