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Thread ID: 15744 | Posts: 6 | Started: 2004-11-23
2004-11-23 12:00 | User Profile
How do you turn a pseudoconservative into a conservative? There are a plethora of knee jerk "conservative" boards, but they really have no idea about what they are trying to conserve. How do you open their eyes to real conservatism?
Take for example Gabby. How do you convince someone like her that Bush is just another liberal wrapped in a flag?
2004-11-23 15:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=londo]How do you turn a pseudoconservative into a conservative? There are a plethora of knee jerk "conservative" boards, but they really have no idea about what they are trying to conserve. How do you open their eyes to real conservatism?
Take for example Gabby. How do you convince someone like her that Bush is just another liberal wrapped in a flag?[/QUOTE]
In my experience the best method is to go very slowly, breaking it down issue by issue. If you can win small concessions over time then there is a good chance that one day the light will go off in their head and they'll finally see it.
I've got lots of folks in my family that I do this with and I do see good progress here and there. Results may vary.
2004-12-19 03:39 | User Profile
Great question. What I'd like to conserve is white people. That's a concrete thing, not an abstraction like "family values" or "freedom." I think the trick is to convince people that what's really going on in the world is a battle among the sub-species, and that religion and politics are just proxy battles for that. You can do that by pointing out how nakedly other groups do it, under the guise of "liberalism," and guide folks from there to the way in which "conservatism" is really just our way of doing the same thing. A main obstacle being, of course, that nobody wants to think of themselves as "racist" and they all want to be universalists. Chipping away at that means making the case that localized morality is rational and thus defensible.
2004-12-19 05:43 | User Profile
"Sub-Species"????????
Hugh? are we going back to the Nazi era?
Wha the HELL makes you superior to others? your education? the fact that you live in America? the fact that you might be "white" but not anglo? the fact that you might have money?
I sure as hell hope that you are talking about the animal world and not the one of the humans.
You and those who think like you are barking at the moon because is to late to do anything about it. The only thing that would make the world as you like it would be a wide world war where 70% of all people would be dead.
And you know what? ratio wise there would be less whites than now, so be nice to the black, brown, yellow, red and pinkos for you might be the minority with no power in the future.
And in case you wonder about me, I am an Spanish Irish with blond hair and green eyes. And I don't feel "superior" to anyone.
2004-12-19 12:37 | User Profile
No, Ponce, you're reading your own delusions into what Hugh wrote.
He hasn't said anything about killing off anybody. He wants his own race to survive and prosper. That is an impossibility without white living spaces - homelands. And I agree with him.
If five million whites were streaming into Mexico every year and signing up for every freebie they, or their entrenched 'advocacy groups', could squeeze out of Uncle Paco's pocketas - assuming Uncle Paco had a pot to piss in, or was so magnanimously inclined, which he ain't - every campesino with a big-ass tortilla hat south of the Baja would be screaming for a Berlin wall along the border - if not the building, and stocking, of out and out [I]death camps[/I].
And if the Mexican elites weren't so cravenly, nakedly corrupt, they might stop lining their pockets long enough to maybe [I]help their own blasted people help themselves[/I] by teaching 'em to fish, instead of pointing them towards America to demand a free seafood platter.
2004-12-19 18:58 | User Profile
But for the part about my "disolution" I am with you in what you wrote.
I am also tired of all the illegals entering the US but I don't blame them. I only blame the US for allowing this to happen.
As you know Bush will now put in 1,000 more borders guards, wanna make a bet that 80% of them will be going to the Canadian border??????
An I'll stick to my guns when I say that the matter of illegals is lost, to late to do anything about it. More of a chance do we have to do something about the Jews if America wakes up before is to late as it was with the illegals.
"Only when you wake up will you start living",,, Ponce