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2004-11-13 21:15 | User Profile

Jackson Slams NI Race Hate

Press Association, Nov. 11

Northern Ireland’s thriving economy could be destroyed by rising levels of race-hate violence, the Rev Jesse Jackson warned today.

With ethnic groups being attacked in Belfast, the veteran American civil rights campaigner said he was horrified by the new menace.

As he made a cross-community trip to the city, Mr Jackson urged greater tolerance.

He said; “I have read about it with some dismay.

“Ireland right now is on the threshold of real economic investment and growth, but racist violence is a deterrent to growth.

“This is a deterrent to investment and if Ireland wants the benefits of investment, it must accept the opportunity of immigration.

“It must see immigration as an asset and not a threat.”

The US Democratic party member and former associate of the Rev Martin Luther King was in Belfast for an awards ceremony to recognise the city’s Filipino community following a rash of racial attacks.

Asian families living in North Belfast had their homes smeared with sickening slogans earlier this week as far-right groups intensified their campaign.

Tiny knots of Pakistanis, Vietnamese, Ugandans and Portuguese who have set up home in Northern Ireland have also faced intimidation by the racists, with some cases also linked to Loyalist paramilitaries.

Three Latvian men were attacked in Lurgan, County Armagh, this week, one being stabbed in the arm.

Mr Jackson denounced the thugs responsible for divisive racist attacks, stressing: “Racism theologically is a sin before God.

“We must see that racism hinders growth and limits the human spirit.”

In an attempt to eradicate the problem, he called for more education.

“In our schools and in our churches, we must not only condemn it but teach against it so that people can overcome their fear.”

Jackson In Tribute To Ulster’s Filipinos

Belfast Telegraph, Nov. 11

Civil rights campaigner the Rev Jesse Jackson was today expected to take part in a Belfast awards ceremony recognising the city’s Filipino community following a spate of racial attacks in recent days.

The Democratic Party member, an outspoken critic of racism in the US and former associate of the Rev Martin Luther King, will be the star attraction at the Aisling awards recognising community workers in the city.

His first visit to Northern Ireland comes after members of the Anti Racism Network held a vigil in north Belfast last night.

The protest was held to demonstrate at attacks on the homes of members of the Filipino and Chinese communities in which racist slogans were daubed on their homes on Monday night.

Up to 100 people gathered at the Fortwilliam shops to show their disgust.

Recent attacks have prompted police to introduce more patrols in parts of Northern Ireland.

Members of the Pakistani, Ugandan, Bangladeshi, Vietnamese and Portuguese communities have also been victims of racial harassment and violence in areas of the province.

The threats and violence have been linked to the emergence of far right groups such as the British National Party, Combat 18 and the White Nationalist Party in the province.

However, loyalist paramilitaries have also been linked to the attacks, with members of the UVF being blamed.

Racial incidents have, however, also occurred in nationalist areas.

Members of the Filipino community have become nurses in Northern Ireland’s hospitals and nursing homes.

Organisers of the Aisling award are planning to honour their role in Northern Ireland society.

After a meeting with Northern Ireland’s Equality Commission yesterday, the Anti Racism Network alleged some estate agents were turning some people away because they were from ethnic minorities.

(Posted on November 12, 2004)

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This is what the UN One Worlders want. This is why mulitculturalism is going on. ALl of this is the excuse for the UN to eventually send in troops to protect these immigrants and with the laws of the Euro-trash, the white nations will have to comply.

The end is coming folks. We will live to see it. It feels like 1933 all over again.

Posted by RICK at 5:13 PM on November 12

Our beloved, pontificating Rev. Jackson:

"The same St. Jesse who as a young waiter in a Carolina restaurant used to spit in the food served to White customers will not stop spitting his venom into America’s melting pot." [url]http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3833[/url]

"And of course the classical expression of this was done by Jesse Jackson, who in 1993 confessed that 'There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.'" [url]http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley092101.shtml[/url]

Ah yes, the famous vague and nebulous "links" used to discredit politically-incorrect organizations, spoken in the passive voice. It's amazing how the sheep seem to fall for such sleazy brainwashing: "The threats and violence have been linked to the emergence of far right groups such as the British National Party, ..."

Posted by John at 6:22 PM on November 12

"Organisers of the Aisling award are planning to honour their role in Northern Ireland society."

They have no role in Irish society, only the Irish have a role in it- these people are nothing more then imported bed pan changers.

Posted by RobertB at 7:19 PM on November 12

The real horror is not that this pontificating, quasi-Marxist is advising a country that has been White since the icecap receded to destroy itself so the "benefits of investment" can be had, the real horror is that there are White people who will listen to him.

Posted by Rex at 7:35 PM on November 12

The only reason the immigrants are coming to Northern Ireland is because the economy is improving. Immigrants have had little to do with this, they only want to leech off the success & send money back home.

Posted by Elaine at 7:57 PM on November 12

In the above article, the word race, racist, racial or racism was used no less than sixteen (16) times.

Whereever Jesse Hi-Jackson goes, you can be sure 'ye olde race card' is sure to be dealt from the bottom of the deck.

Whenever white people try to prevent the trashing of their continent / country / state / city / neighborhoods by non-white people (and this applies to any and every article on this site), wheeeeeeeeeeelllllllll - we all know what we call 'Those Folks' -- don't we?????????

Posted by Mike B. at 8:09 PM on November 12

"This is a deterrent to investment and if Ireland wants the benefits of investment, it must accept the opportunity of immigration."

Here, we promise, this is opportunity, and when you're given opportunity, you'll take it and like it, see? If this opportunity hurts too much, why, we'll just grease it up and slip it in a bit at a time. There, see, that's not so bad, is it?

The Beast is with us, and knows what it is doing.

Posted by Ginnungagap at 8:12 PM on November 12

"Asian families living in North Belfast had their homes smeared with sickening slogans earlier this week as far-right groups intensified their campaign."

This happens every day to Asians in the U.S. who have the misfortune of living next to blacks. Jackson somehow never protests when the "brotha" is the racist (which is 90% of the time).

"Mr Jackson denounced the thugs responsible for divisive racist attacks, stressing: 'Racism theologically is a sin before God.'"

Then Jesse is the worst sinner in the world.

Posted by Bernie at 8:30 PM on November 12

in the 1960s when catholics were being burned out of their homes, hounded by roaming loyalist death squads and being denied any meaningful employment opportunities, where was the outrage from american "civil rights" leaders then?

where was jesse when loyalists where throwing urine filled balloons at eight year old school children at holy cross?

where was he on bloody sunday when british soldiers opened fire and murdered 13 unamred civilians in cold blood?

oh wait, they had the wrong skin colour.

Posted by stephen at 8:45 PM on November 12

I hope for the sake of Northern Irelanders that they realize what is happening to all western countries who are importing third worlders and realize that the immigrants will eventually make their country third world as well. Who invited the king of racists to Ireland in the first place? Did anyone ask him how any immigrant from a third world country has ever improved actual economic growth of the average citizens of the countries they invade? They do improve the economic growth of the companies who exploit their labor. But the large majority of citizens they devalue their quality of life.

Posted by Casey Crews at 9:41 PM on November 12

"Up to 100 people gathered at the Fortwilliam shops to show their disgust."

Does anyone know what the population is in the Belfast area? 100 people hardly represent a mandate of the overall population, unless the population is only around 200. Jesse might want to keep his mouth shut. Things are different over there than they are here. Let's see if he leads a "civil rights" demonstration through Belfast. And speaking of sin, hey Bro' Jesse, how long you be bangin' yo secretary before she got pregnant? Sure thing your wife was pleased with that.

Posted by Sam Diego at 9:52 PM on November 12

Northern Ireland's economy doesn't need any help from people who refuse to assimilate.

Jesse Jackson, Northern Ireland isn't your country. Stay out of it, and stop interfering. You have no rights there.

Posted by John at 11:09 PM on November 12

(I had posted this related NYT article and my comments on the AR board)

NOTE: Are the Irish leaving the US solely for economic reasons as the NYT would have us believe?

Why are the Irish fearful of being caught as illegals when other groups have no such fear?

Why are the Irish being denied "free health care" and other social benefits when other groups have no difficulty claiming?

Have traditional Irish enclaves in NY and Boston become open and vulnerable to the new invasion?

Why does the NYT end this article by stressing that when they return to Ireland they will not find the "historic" Ireland of their imagination? Is the NYT revealing the true reason the Irish are leaving? Is the NYT telling them and us that you can run but you can't hide anymore; that there is no homeland or community left to return to that is free of multiculturalism?

Back Home in Ireland, Greener Pastures

By NINA BERNSTEIN

Published: November 10, 2004

They arrived as the New Irish in the 1980's and 90's, thousands drawn to a New York that still glittered in family lore as a place where hard work could bring prosperity.

But the glitter began to dim along with the economy and the government's attitude toward illegal immigrants. Now they are streaming back to Ireland at such a clip that in the neighborhoods they regreened in Queens, Yonkers and the Bronx, once-packed pubs stand half-empty and apartment vacancies go begging.

Some immigrants, longtime illegal residents losing hope for legal status, say they are being driven out by new security crackdowns that make it harder for those without a valid Social Security number to drive, work or plan a future in the United States.

Others, already naturalized citizens, say the price in toil for health care and education was too high, and hope for a less- exhausting life in a prosperous Ireland.

"It's the complete reversal of the American dream," said Adrian Flannelly, chairman of the Irish Radio Network in New York, who has served on an Irish government task force on returnees. The exodus from the city, he said, signals a historic shift in a relationship that is part of the city's backbone, inscribed in the subways and bridges built by Irish immigrant labor in past centuries.

Michael and Catroina Condon, both naturalized American citizens who spent 19 and 11 years in New York, respectively, say Ireland's style of prosperity promises a better life for their children. After the birth of their first baby, they said, they rebelled against the toll of seven-day workweeks to pay rising costs in a sluggish American economy.

"It's longer hours, less money, and a lot of the time you see people working for their wage just to pay their rent, to pay their health insurance," said Ms. Condon, 31, who was a corporate secretary in Manhattan before returning in September to Mullingar, in County Westmeath. Her husband, a carpenter, is starting his own business, and she envisions a wedding-planning enterprise.

The exodus is hard to quantify, but unmistakable, according to observers in the travel agencies, real estate offices, moving companies and pubs that cater to Irish New Yorkers in the Bronx and Queens. Christina McElwaine, a spokeswoman for the Irish Consulate in New York, said the reversal seemed unprecedented in scale.

Some Irish immigrants have always gone back home, of course, and in 2002, after several years of strong economic growth and declining emigration, Ireland's census recorded 26,000 more Irish who returned than left.

It was one of the largest inflows ever in a country that had hemorrhaged its population for most of three centuries, and lost 23,000 as recently as 1990.

But the Irish departures reached critical mass in New York last summer, and were echoed in the last two years in Boston and Philadelphia. "If this trend continues, it will be a very rare commodity to hear an Irish accent in this country," said Tom Conaghan, director of Philadelphia's Irish Immigration and Pastoral Center.

The surge surprised even Danny Moloney, director of Liffey Van Lines, which had to keep its container loading dock in upper Manhattan open 24 hours a day to meet the demand from families shipping their household goods back to Ireland before school began.

"Our business has tripled in the past year," he said. "It's all people that are going home to Ireland." Áine Cullen, a waitress at Eileen's Country Kitchen on McLean Avenue in Yonkers, followed six of her brothers when she migrated to New York seven years ago at 21. Now, most of her family has moved back.

"Everybody's leaving and nobody's coming over anymore," Ms. Cullen said, ticking off colleagues, friends and relatives who packed up and moved back to Ireland over the summer or have bought one-way tickets home before Christmas. "This will be the fourth brother to go."

Some leave reluctantly. "I don't really have much of a choice," said Johnny C., 44, a construction worker who made a good living in New York for 14 years, only to see his jobs dwindle since a Department of Motor Vehicles crackdown this year left him unable to renew his driver's license. He sent his wife and 13-year-old United States-born daughter back to Waterford, Ireland, in June, he said, speaking on condition that his last name not be published, and he will join them this week.

Counselors in immigrant advice bureaus on both sides of the Atlantic say that many returnees will have a rude awakening in Ireland - especially those who were stuck in the underground economy in the United States, unable to travel abroad for fear of not getting back in. The Irish government now puts out brochures warning that they will find not the Ireland of memory, but rather a fast-paced multiracial society where their dollars are weak against the euro and affordable housing scarce.

"The old tradition that you come to America and you work like hell and you save, and you go back and the almighty dollar will give you a kick start - that's all over," Mr. Flannelly said.

But for those who linger illegally in New York, there is another twist in the Irish-American relationship. Now it is they who marvel at visiting Irish friends and relatives who are able to fly to New York for the weekend, just to shop for cheap designer-label goods, or to consider investing in a $300,000 apartment.

"For generations, we Irish have fled oppression and poverty to New York in the hope of a better way of life; now it seems we just want to buy the place," Tim O'Brien wrote in The Irish Times in a Sept. 23 article about "the latest big thing" - "how affordable property is for the Irish investor."

Johnny C., the construction worker, remembers that kind of attitude in the Irish-American visitors of his childhood. "The shoe is really on the other foot now," he said.

In the Woodlawn section of the Bronx, where homes typically change hands through word of mouth, the ripple effects are inescapable. An Irish-American landlord said that half a dozen of his apartments had been vacant since August and that his wife had to close down her home day care business as families moved away.

Siobhan Dennehy, director of the Emerald Isle Immigration Center, in Queens, said others had only been holding out for a fresh approach to immigration after the election. One example was a 40-year-old mother in Woodside, Queens, who began packing last Wednesday after seven years. "The election definitely tipped things for me," she said as she prepared to take her New York-born daughter back to Sligo. "I may as well go home and be part of a society that I can belong to and contribute to. Under Bush, it's never going to happen."

But Anthony Finn, a counselor with the Emigrant Advice Centre in Dublin, said the returnees might find disillusionment, too, in today's Ireland. The most successful, he said, are those who got legal status in the United States; the illegal are caught short in both economies.

On one side is Barry Fox, a carpenter who went from illegal day laborer to American citizen earning a union wage over a dozen years in New York. "I think I'm actually better off," Mr. Fox, a father of three, said in a telephone call from County Tyrone, where he built a home on his father's farmland after returning three years ago.

Weighing the higher cost of parochial school education, health insurance and his mortgage in Yonkers, he said even his $70-an-hour union carpenter's wage in New York fell short of what he earned now.

At the other end is a couple that left Boston for County Cork two years ago, and told Kieran O'Sullivan, a counselor at Boston's Irish Immigration Center, that they now regretted it.

While they were in the United States, prices soared in Ireland, spurred by the high-tech boom known as the Celtic Tiger. But they do not qualify for high-paying work, they said, and service jobs in hotels and restaurants go to the recent wave of immigrants from Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe willing to work harder for lower wages.

"We were only gone for four and a half years, but everything had changed," the wife said in a call from Ireland, asking to remain anonymous in hopes of avoiding a 10-year ban on re-entering the United States, imposed on anyone found to have overstayed a tourist visa by more than 180 days.

Mr. Finn, the emigrant advice officer in Dublin, agreed. "They are not returning," he said of the Irish from America. "They're remigrating to a different country."

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/10/nyregion/10irish.html?hp[/url]

Posted by sbuffalonative at 11:15 PM on November 12

Will anyone shut that meddling 'reverend' up for good?! ..perhaps it's because he's not capable of being a racist. Not Jesse!!

Posted by Ben D. at 11:55 PM on November 12

I wonder if Jesse's next stop will be the Ivory Coast where he will condemn black racism against whites. Don't hold your breath.

Posted by Frank at 12:36 AM on November 13

Truly amazing. Until about a decade ago, Ireland was a very poor country. As such, the Third World parasites avoided Ireland, preferring to bless the USA and other European countries with diversity. Now that the long-suffering Irish are making it, the parasites are going there to cash in. To the Third World Pasasites Everywhere: Stay home, we don't want you. To the Irish unfamiliar with Diversity: Nip multiculturalism in the bud, or they will overwelm and sink you; if you give them a foothold, you will lose your country because these nonwhites breed like mice. Do you really want the prosperity you finally achieved to be handed over to a bunch of Asians?

Posted by Mike at 1:42 AM on November 13

They need to throw his black butt outta there before he starts a bunch of trouble there.

Posted by roller at 3:43 AM on November 13

With regard to the matter of sustained, high volume, Third World «in-migration» to both the Republic and the Six Counties, the Irish, Republican and Loyalist are in for a big, unpleasant surprise. I believe that the Irish will find it extremely difficult to respond, positively to this sudden phenomenon of Third World Immigration. And I believe that this is due to an number of factors. In the first instance, the Irish themselves have, since the middle decades of the 19th century, after the Famine, been, and have seen themselves as, «a nation of immigrants;« not in the Jimmy Carter initerpretation of the term, but in the sense that the Irish, for over 150 years have had to «go somewhere else,» to find work, to achieve something approximate to a First World standard of living, to find the appropriate milieu to build a career, usually as doctors or engineers (my father was an civil engineer, his two eldest brothers were physicians), other than in Ireland. It will be difficult, therefore, for the Irish to refuse to accommodate these people, upon the basis of the collective «race memory,» which the Irish possess, to an exceptional degree, of the sorts of hardships, discrimination, and bias (often highly sentimentalized), which they experienced as emigrants to the (formerly) «White Dominions» of Australia, South Africa (Sean OCaseys father was an Irish soldier in SA), New Zealand, «canada,» and the United States. I still have an uncle, incidentally, an retired attorney in his eighties, who, as a very small boy in Pittsburgh, remembers signs in store windows reading «No Irish need apply.» And the «victim image» mentality with which the Irish regard themselves, will, I believe, be transposed to the newcomers in their midst. Inspiring an sort of «(a)moral paralysis,» an unwillingness to discriminate against the «newcomer» as the Irish were once themselves discriminated against. An additional reason why the Irish will be unable to cope with the Third World immigration, and why they will be unable to discern (until it is too late), what an catastrophic error they made, allowing these people in to the country, may be the attitude the Irish possess toward non-Whites in general; and Blacks in particular. The Irish have been taught, per their extremely lib-left State(ist) Media (RTE «radio telefis eirrean» that Blacks «are nice people.» And they dismiss, out of hand, the stories they are told about Black criminality ad violence; this, to the Irish, is only due to the irredentist attitudes of bias and bigotry held (as they assume), by most American Whites. Essentially, they see Blacks, because they have no extensive national experience of Blacks, as benign and put-upon, victims, rahter than perpetrators. It should also be noted that the Irish media, relatively resourcesless, tends to buy «feeds» of audio and video from the traditional American networks, CBS,ABC,NBC. As a consequence, the anti-White bias, inherent in the programming content of these media organisations, is transmitted to the Irish who view or listen to these feeds, absolutely unfiltered. Essentially, the Irish attitude toward Blacks in particular, and non-Whites in general, is at an 1960s stage of development; an guilt ridden, ingenuous, «welcome the foreigner» sort of attitude. The idea that Blacks are responsible for their own misfortune, that Blacks are the victimizers rather than the victims, has not (yet) «sunk in» to the Irish consciousness. Finally, Irish membership in the EU, with its «open borders» protocols, and arbitrary and Orwellian «toleration legislation» will make it extremely difficult for the Irish to do very much to prevent an Hibernian variant of South Central Los Angeles, or Metropolitan Manila, from developing in places like Belfast or Dublin. EU legislation will interdict, or be gerrymandered to interdict, to prevent Ireland - or the Six Counties from limiting or expelling non Whites. It should be noted further in this matter, that Irish politicians, such as the vile and preposterous Mary Robinson, former «UN High Commissioner on Human Rights,» went down to (whats left) of America`s Southern Border to lecture and hector the farmers and ranchers of New Mexico and Arizona with regard to how selfish and racist they were not to allow Third World hispanics to trespass on their land, rustle and mutilate their cattle, cut their fence lines and destroy their property. And invade their country. As the attitudes of »s» Robinson in this matter are «standard» across the «traditional» Irish political spectrum, the Irish are going to see some very ominous developements in their country, very soon. What is occurring in Holland now, shall be occurring in Ireland within 20 years.

Posted by David A. Kyne at 12:53 PM on November 13

Silly me. I thought Jackson was going to express concern about the fighting between the Catholics and the Protestants. But no, it seems there's a Filipino clutch on the Emerald Isle, and attacks on THEM are what concern the Reverend. When whites fight each other (something they should consider dropping these days, given the wider threats), this is never of great concern to the Lords of Multiracialism, because the more of them dead, the better.

Posted by Hugh Lincoln at 1:34 PM on November 13

"The threats and violence have been linked to the emergence of far right groups such as the British National Party, ..."

"Linked" by who?

1 - WHAT are we being told?

2 - WHO is doing the telling?

3- WHY are they telling in?

Posted by Curt at 3:11 PM on November 13

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Jim

2004-11-13 21:47 | User Profile

The Emerald Isle is turning brown rather rapidly, and its small population may means it may tip even quicker than England, despite the latters thirty year head start in multiracialism.

One hopes the Irish wake up and get over two centuries of mindless sectarianism and phony victim status, and realise their future lies with their counterparts elsewhere in the British Isles with whom they are tied by languague, blood and history (the same goes for the recent manifestations of phony nationalism by the Welsh and Scotch). We are all in the same boat, heading for the same rocks...


WesleyWes

2005-01-14 17:14 | User Profile

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