← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · edward gibbon
Thread ID: 15621 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2004-11-11
2004-11-11 20:51 | User Profile
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Published: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 Bylined to: VHeadline.com Reporters [QUOTE]Venezuela and Colombia may build oil pipeline to Pacific to supply China
Bloomberg is reporting that Venezuela and Colombia may build a pipeline to the latter's Pacific coast to supply oil to the People's Republic of China. They are also expected to discuss how to improve security on the 2,200-kilometer Venezuela-Colombia border after an incident in September in which six Venezuelan soldiers and an oil company employee were killed. The incident prompted Venezuela to order 33 helicopters from Russia to guard the border.
Bloomberg says: Colombia and Venezuela will set aside border conflicts today as their two presidents consider strengthening economic ties, including construction of an oil pipeline that would help Venezuela diversify export markets.
Colombian President Alvaro Uribe and his Venezuelan counterpart, Hugo Chavez, will discuss a plan to connect Maracaibo in Venezuela to the province of Choco, about 1,000 kilometers (625 miles) to the west on Colombia's Pacific coast, said Julio Cesar Vera, a Colombian Mines Ministry official.
[COLOR=Red]The proposal would make it possible for Venezuela to shift exports away from the US, the buyer of more than 60% of Venezuela's crude oil[/COLOR], by offering a route other than the Panama Canal ... which can't accommodate the biggest tankers ... according to Vera, who is in charge of oil policy at the ministry in Bogota. "This would allow Venezuela to connect with Asia without using the Panama Canal ... Asian investors, mainly China, have expressed interest in it.''
The proposed pipeline from Maracaibo to Choco would help develop Colombia's Pacific coast in addition to making it easier for Venezuela to sell oil to China, said Rangel. "For Colombia this is an opportunity to develop the Choco and outlets to the Pacific which are very scarce and poorly developed,'' says Alfredo Rangel, executive director of the Bogota-based security & foreign affairs research firm Fundacion Seguridad y Democracia. "Colombia and Venezuela have very paradoxical and ambiguous relations; economically they are very integrated, but they share a border with many problems.''
Discussions to improve trade and economic cooperation are on the agenda for the one-day meeting in Cartagena (Colombia) which mark a shift for both countries, whose relations have been marred in recent months by cross-border incursions of Colombian insurgents and paramilitaries. The Presidents will probably also discuss how to improve security on their common border according to Mauricio Baquero, head of the Americas department of the Colombian Foreign Ministry. Colombian exports to Venezuela ... its second largest trading partner after the US ... surged to US$906 million in August from $385 million in the same month a year earlier, while imports from Venezuela jumped to $640 million from $446 million, according to government figures.
[COLOR=Red]Ivan Orellana, Venezuela's governor to the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) said in an October 5 interview in Caracas that Venezuela would be willing to pay a higher cost to ship oil to China ... where demand is soaring ... to help it diversify oil supplies away from the US market. "This makes lots of sense as the biggest growing markets are China and Japan,'' [/COLOR] said Hernando Vasquez, president of Bogota- based oil-services company FEPCO. Shao Ying-hun, commercial attache at China's embassy in Bogota, said in a telephone interview that Chinese companies had been approached for the project. She declined to give any details.
Chinese oil demand is expected to increase 15% this year, according top the International Energy Agency. China and the US together account for a third of the world's oil consumption. Nevertheless, attacks by Colombia's insurgents and paramilitary groups might impede the project while China may find oil imports from Russia or Indonesia more economical, according to Tim Evans, senior energy analyst at IFR Markets in New York. "Realistically, for better or for worse, the US and Venezuela are going to be married ... it can be a good marriage or a bad marriage.''
The US imported about 1.5 million barrels a day (bpd) from Venezuela in the first seven months of this year, according to the US Energy Department. State-run oil company Petroleos de Venezuela said last month that Venezuela ships about 2.7 million barrels of crude and petroleum products a day.
In Cartagena, Chavez (50) and Uribe may also agree on terms to build a $170 million, 105-kilometer natural gas pipeline that will allow Colombia to export gas to western Venezuela, where a there's a shortage of the fuel, Colombia's state oil company said in a statement on October 21. The two leaders signed a preliminary accord on the project at their last meeting in July. The pipeline would eventually allow Venezuela, South America's biggest natural gas producer, to export gas to Colombia and Central America once Venezuela has built pipelines from the western part of the country to its main gas reserves in the eastern part of the country.
Uribe (52) and his Panamanian counterpart, Martin Torrijos, agreed on November 1 to extend Colombia's gas pipeline network to Panama in a move that would allow Venezuela to eventually export gas to Panama, Central America and Mexico under the so-called Panama-Puebla plan.[/QUOTE]The great squabble over world oil will start much sooner than I expected. Despite protests to the contrary the United States will fight for oil to forestall an internal collapse. I know many on this board state they would welcome this situation that most likely would bring about a rebellion or revolution of sorts. If so, now is the time to prepare.
2004-11-11 21:55 | User Profile
Ed? like I posted elsewhere, Iran is a mayor oil contributor to China and they wont just cross their arms and let the US take over Iran, that would be like China invading Soudi Arabia and the US doing nothing about it.
2004-11-15 04:24 | User Profile
I have been reading a lot about the economy and the world situation and finally came up with my own conclusions and all that I can tell you is that is going to be bad.
The war that Bush is making on the world he is not doing it on his own but also with the approval of all mayor powers and to make the story short the final results will be to decimate the world population by six to seven billions in order to be able to sustain life for the rest of them.
The mayor powers know that they can not just go ahead and start killing people as in a genocide but must make it look like a mayor world war is doing the killing, if the population were to know their plans to decimate people on purpose there would be a world wide rebellion in order to kill those in the govenment making all the planning and then the plan would fail.
After looking at numbers and figures I decided that they are right and that's the only way to confront what could happen if this was not to be done.
Figures don't lie and one example of this is that in the past 40 years we have lost 55% of arid land and while the population will continue to go up the food supply will go down and every year it will get worse and worse.
Not only that, because we use oil in order to fertilize the land and there is less and less oil every year there will be a time where there will be no fertelizer for the land.
WE CAN NOT INCREASE FOOD SUPPLY THEREFORE WE MUST DECREASE THE POPULATION.
The same goes for water, there is less drincable water every year and yet the population keeps growing at an alarming rate, we in the US would be on the safe side if it wasent for all those from other countries that are coming in.
In five years China will be the main user of oil and it will not because of all the new factories but because also the people themselves will use more oil and electricity, every day around 10,000 new cars are being sold in China (if my figures are right) and that would mean about 30,000 more gallons of gas per day, three gallons per car as average.
If you are not ready by now I would suggest that you start now, fix your teeth, get a good medical check up, learn how to use a weapon and buy it now while you can and if possible buy it of the grid, learn how to cultivate the land, get a piece of property away from the city and make proper plans to get to it fast like if you have to.
Dont trust the so called free shots that the government will be offering everyone, as long as you are away from people and are eating right there is no need for vaccination.
Learn how to dress a deer a rabbit and how to fish but remember that there will be only so many deers, rabbits or fishes sinse the whole world will be after them, I for one intent to build a hen house and raise them.
I have a Doctor, and his wife, from the VA hospital who will be moving in with me, his wife is a trauma nurse and he can always trade his services for food or other items that we may need. I have also a friend from LA who is an attorney that will serve as a security guard with his 15 year old son and his wife can take care of the cooking.
Remember that you will have a lot of Jhonny come late that if they know that you have something will be begging at you door specially your relatives, all you can do is to warn them and if they pay no deed then turn them loose.
I chose a place surounded by mountains and also the prevaling winds blows from the ocean and towards the states away form me.
This is the most that I have typed at one time but I feel that it is inportant to share with you what I do know, sorry for my English and my mistakes.
"He who is ready will survive and he who is not will die",,,,,,Ponce
Or at least have a good chance to survive.
2004-11-15 18:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]I have been reading a lot about the economy and the world situation and finally came up with my own conclusions and all that I can tell you is that is going to be bad.
The war that Bush is making on the world he is not doing it on his own but also with the approval of all mayor powers and to make the story [COLOR=Red]short the final results will be to decimate the world population by six to seven billions in order to be able to sustain life for the rest of them.[/COLOR]
The mayor powers know that they can not just go ahead and start killing people as in a genocide but must make it look like a mayor world war is doing the killing, if the population were to know their plans to decimate people on purpose there would be a world wide rebellion in order to kill those in the govenment making all the planning and then the plan would fail...[/QUOTE] The world population is somewhat over 6 billion. So I think your numbers are a little off. If factory farming comes into being, the world could feed itself.
Yet I have discussed the future with many intelligent people, and they feel like you do. Ted Turner has said the world will have a massive kill-off. At one time I thought this and similar predictions were a stretch, but no more.
2004-11-15 20:51 | User Profile
Sorry about the figures but as always my typing was out of tune with what I was thinking at the time, even when I type I am thinking about something else.
By the way, the US "alone" could feed the world by itself if it was properly organize, and please don't ask where I read this,,,,,sometimes even I don't know what I read as a speed reader but file it away without even knowing about it until needed,,,,,, I know, I know, I am weird heehehehehe.
2004-11-16 04:57 | User Profile
have no respect for George *in Bush and his minions. Long Live the Iraqi Resistance. I hope they kill all our stupid troops. Bush needs a wake up call, delivered frontal. He is personally responsible. Kill American invaders. you Boy. Your Countrry betrrrayed YOU. Its not our problem. you and stop invading us., * you piecce of shit you spread sin you spread sin you spread sin you mother ff you are a dead piecce of shit and you are gouingg to die DIEE
2004-11-18 20:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Exelsis_Deo]have no respect for George *in Bush and his minions. Long Live the Iraqi Resistance. [COLOR=Red][B][I]I hope they kill all our stupid troops. [/I] [/B] [/COLOR] Bush needs a wake up call, delivered frontal. He is personally responsible. Kill American invaders. you Boy. Your Countrry betrrrayed YOU. Its not our problem. you and stop invading us., * you piecce of shit you spread sin you spread sin you spread sin you mother ff you are a dead piecce of shit and you are gouingg to die DIEE[/QUOTE]If this forum is to influence others, nonsense such as this moron wrote will have to cease. Perhaps a mental exam using the internet is possible.
2004-11-20 06:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE]I hope they kill all our stupid troops.[/QUOTE]
I don't. I hope they come back here to lead a regime change from the present sorry crew called "our leaders".
Don't make anymore wishes like this.
2004-11-20 21:17 | User Profile
With the colossus next door that is China, a historical enemy, you could not blame Japan if they were to go on a crash program of re-armament,including nukes.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I do not generaly agree with the "The World is Running out of Oil" thesis, but no doubt the powers that be will use the threat thereof to manipulate the sheeple.
2005-04-30 16:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Blond Knight][I]With the colossus next door that is China, a historical enemy, you could not blame Japan if they were to go on a crash program of re-armament,including nukes.[/I]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I do not generaly agree with the "The World is Running out of Oil" thesis, but no doubt the powers that be will use the threat thereof to manipulate the sheeple.[/QUOTE]I had thought I had responded to this remark, but I had not. From my essay in [B][I]Occidental Quarterly[/I][/B]: [QUOTE]On April 7, 2002 the [B][I]Japan Times [/I] [/B] carried the comments by Liberal Party leader Ichiro Ozawa that Japan could easily become a nuclear power. [I]He stated Japan had enough plutonium to make 3 to 4 thousand nuclear weapons. ââ¬ÅIf that should happen, we wouldnââ¬â¢t lose (to China) in terms of military strength. What would (China) do then?ââ¬Â [/I] Not one word has appeared in the American press that has ceased to cover the American military in Afghanistan and concentrated its resources on Israel. One must ask what the Chinese think. Not one word has appeared in the American press. If a German party leader had made a similar remark to the Russians, the New York Times would push Israel off the front page.
[[url]http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20020407a1.htm][/url] [/QUOTE]The American media has been busy covering American born Jews in the Middle East who are busy occupying Arab land. The real main event has been occuring in East Asia. As ever the American public will be shocked when events start to unravel. Israel will continue to dominate the interest of the American media.