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Thread ID: 15535 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2004-11-03
2004-11-03 01:52 | User Profile
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SPAM TO ALL UNBELIEVERS
2004-11-03 02:07 | User Profile
Doesn't look black to me. How did some people come up with this?
2004-11-03 02:12 | User Profile
Neoclassical, What is this? Is someone actually claiming this? Is there a link I'm missing?
2004-11-03 05:09 | User Profile
By "black" do you mean "non-Christian," neo? If so, then you might be right:
Beethoven's religious beliefs From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The role of religious belief in the work of the celebrated composer Ludwig van Beethoven is a matter of disagreement among scholars.
Beethoven was born and raised a Roman Catholic, and he composed many religious works, among them the Mass in C and the Missa Solemnis. The lyrics of his Choral Symphony also include stanzas that refer to God. However, it is also documented that Beethoven never attended church and he had a mistrust of priests. Beethoven's teacher Joseph Haydn said he considered Beethoven an atheist, while his friend and biographer Anton Felix Schindler felt he was "inclined towards deism." It is also known that Beethoven became enamored with Pantheism as espoused by Goethe. Of Goethe Beethoven said, "he is alive, and he wants us all to live with him. That is why he can be set to music."
Beethoven's faith in God as experienced through art is an important theme in his conversation books, his belief that art is a force unto itself, and that "God is closer to me than others of my art," infuse his search for redemption through and in music. This view seems to be complementary to Pantheism, and not necessarily the view and faith he was born into.
While Beethoven was on his deathbed, his friends convinced him to allow a priest to read him his last rites even though he supposedly protested. Upon the priest finishing the rites and leaving the room Beethoven uttered the words, "applaud, my friends, the comedy is over."
URL: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beethoven%27s_religious_beliefs[/url]
2004-11-03 18:33 | User Profile
This canard got started at the time that Afro-centrism first raised its wooly head back in the 70's and and every discovery or person of talent was said to arise from the miasma of the Congo. Beethovan was nicknamed the "Moor" for his black moods by some of friends, a play on words, simply. From there is was a simple step to include him in the pantheon of unrecognized black greats by the charletons shilling for black studies. Nobody of any sense or learning pays any attention to such nonsense. End of thread.