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2004-10-27 16:47 | User Profile
Libertarian Party Founder Endorses Bush
The first Libertarian Party candidate for president, who ran for the nation's highest office in 1972, has issued an open letter to fellow party members urging them to vote for President Bush on Tuesday.
Source: [url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=41116[/url]
This was the email I received some days ago, awaiting validation of it's authenticity. It is presented in it's entirety and is not subject to copyright.
Freely distribute.
From Elder Statesman John Hospers
AN OPEN LETTER TO LIBERTARIANS
Dear Libertarian:
As a way of getting acquainted, let me just say that I was the first presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party back in l972, and was the author of the first full-length book, Libertarianism, describing libertarianism in detail. I also wrote the Libertarian Partyââ¬â¢s Statement of Principles at the first libertarian national convention in 1972. I still believe in those principles as strongly as ever, but this year -- more than any year since the establishment of the Libertarian Party -- I have major concerns about the choices open to us as voting Americans.
There is a belief thatââ¬â¢s common among many libertarians that there is no essential difference between the Democrat and Republican Parties -- between a John Kerry and a George W. Bush administration; or worse: that a Bush administration would be more undesirable. Such a notion could not be farther from the truth, or potentially more harmful to the cause of liberty.
The election of John Kerry would be, far more than is commonly realized, a catastrophe. Regardless of what he may say in current campaign speeches, his record is unmistakable: he belongs to the International Totalitarian Left in company with the Hillary and Bill Clintons, the Kofi Annans, the Ted Kennedys, and the Jesse Jacksons of the world. The Democratic Party itself has been undergoing a transformation in recent years; moderate, pro-American, and strong defense Senators such as Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman and Scoop Jackson are a dying breed. Observe how many members of the Democrat Party belong to the Progressive Caucus, indistinguishable from the Democratic Socialists of America. That caucus is the heart and soul of the contemporary Democratic Party.
Todayââ¬â¢s Democrats have been out of majority power for so long that they are hungry for power at any price and will do anything to achieve it, including undermining the President and our troops in time of war; for them any victory for Americans in the war against terrorism is construed as a defeat for them.
The Democratic Party today is a haven for anti-Semites, racists, radical environmentalists, plundering trial lawyers, government employee unions, and numerous other self-serving elites who despise the Constitution and loath private property. It is opposed to free speech ââ¬â witness the mania for political correctness and intimidation on college campuses, and Kerryââ¬â¢s threat to sue television stations that carry the Swift Boat ads. If given the power to do so, Democrats will use any possible means to suppress opposing viewpoints, particularly on talk radio and in the university system. They will attempt to enact ââ¬Åhate speechââ¬Â and ââ¬Åhate crimeââ¬Â laws and re-institute the Fairness Doctrine, initiate lawsuits, and create new regulations designed to suppress freedom of speech and intimidate their political adversaries. They will call it ââ¬Ådefending human rights.ââ¬Â This sort of activity may well make up the core of a Kerry administration Justice Department that will have no truck with the rule of law except as a weapon to use against opponents.
There are already numerous stories of brownshirt types committing violence against Republican campaign headquarters all over the country, and Democrat thugs harassing Republican voters at the polls. Yet not a word about it from the Kerry campaign. Expect this dangerous trend to increase dramatically with a Kerry win, ignored and tacitly accepted by the liberal-left mainstream media. This is ominous sign of worse things to come.
Kerry, who changes direction with the wind, has tried to convince us that he now disavows the anti-military sentiments that he proclaimed repeatedly in the l970s. But in fact he will weaken our military establishment and devastate American security by placing more value on the United Nations than on the United States: for example he favors the Kyoto Treaty and the International Criminal Court, and opposed the withdrawal of the U.S. from the ABM Treaty. He has been quoted as saying that it is honorable for those in the U.S. military to die under the flag of the U.N. but not that of the U.S. Presumably he and a small cadre of bureaucrats should rule the world, via the U.N. or some other world body which will make all decisions for the whole world concerning private property, the use of our military, gun ownership, taxation, and environmental policy (to name a few). In his thirty-year career he has demonstrated utter contempt for America, national security, constitutional republicanism, democracy, private property, and free markets.
His wifeââ¬â¢s foundations have funneled millions of dollars into far-left organizations that are virulently hostile to America and libertarian principles. Not only would these foundations continue to lack transparency to the American people, they would be given enormous vigor in a Kerry administration.
Already plans are afoot by the Kerry campaign to steal the coming election via a legal coup, e.g. to claim victory on election night no matter what the vote differential is, and initiate lawsuits anywhere and everywhere they feel it works to their advantage, thus making a mockery of our election process, throwing the entire process into chaos -- possibly for months -- and significantly weakening our ability to conduct foreign policy and protect ourselves domestically. Let me repeat: we are facing the very real possibility of a political coup occurring in America. Al Gore very nearly got away with one in 2000. Do not underestimate what Kerry and his ilk are going to attempt to do to America.
George Bush has been criticized for many things ââ¬â and in many cases with justification: on campaign finance reform (a suppression of the First Amendment), on vast new domestic spending, on education, and on failing to protect the borders. No self-respecting libertarian or conservative would fail to be deeply appalled by these. His great virtue, however, is that he has stood up -- knowingly at grave risk to his political viability -- to terrorism when his predecessors, Ford, Carter, Reagan, and Clinton did not. On many occasions during their administrations terrorists attacked American lives and property. Clinton did nothing, or engaged in a feckless retaliation such as bombing an aspirin factory in the Sudan (based on faulty intelligence, to boot). Then shortly after Bush became president he was hit with ââ¬Åthe big one:ââ¬Â 9/11. It was clear to him that terrorism was more than a series of criminal acts: it was a war declared upon U.S. and indeed to the entire civilized world long before his administration. He decided that action had to be taken to protect us against future 9/11s involving weapons of mass destruction, including ââ¬Åsuitcaseââ¬Â nuclear devices.
Indeed, today it is Islamic fundamentalism that increasingly threatens the world just as Nazis fascism and Soviet communism did in previous decades. The Islamo-fascists would be happy to eliminate all non-Muslims without a tinge of regret. Many Americans still indulge in wishful thinking on this issue, viewing militant Islam as a kind of nuisance, which can be handled without great inconvenience in much the same way as one swats flies, rather than as hordes of genocidal religious fanatics dedicated to our destruction.
The president has been berated for taking even minimal steps to deal with the dangers of this war (the allegations made against the Patriot Act seem to me based more on hysteria and political opportunism than on reality). But Bush, like Churchill, has stood steadfast in the face of it, and in spite of the most virulent hate and disinformation campaign that any American president has had to endure. Afghanistan is no longer a safe haven for terrorists. Saddamââ¬â¢s regime is no longer a major player in the worldwide terror network. Libya has relinquished their weapons of terror. The Pakistani black market in weapons of mass destruction has been eliminated. Arafat is rotting in Ramallah. Terrorist cells all over the world have been disrupted, and thousands of terrorists killed. The result: Americans are orders of magnitude safer.
National defense is always expensive, and Bush has been widely excoriated for these expenditures. But as Ayn Rand memorably said at a party I attended in l962, in response to complaints that ââ¬Åtaxes are too highââ¬Â (then 20%), ââ¬ÅPay 80% if you need it for defense.ââ¬Â It is not the amount but the purpose served that decides what is ââ¬Åtoo much.ââ¬Â And the purpose here is the continuation of civilized life on earth in the face of vastly increased threats to its existence.
Bush cut income tax rates for the first time in fifteen years. These cuts got us moving out of the recession he inherited, and we are all economically much better off because of them. 1.9 million new jobs have been added to the economy since August 2003. Bush has other projects in the wind for which libertarians have not given him credit. For example:
(l) A total revision of our tax code. We will have a debate concerning whether this is best done via a flat tax or a sales tax. If such a change were to occur, it would be a gigantic step in the direction of liberty and prosperity. No such change will occur with Kerry.
(2) A market-based reform of Social Security. This reform, alone, could bring future budget expenditures down so significantly that it would make his current expenditures seem like pocket change. Kerry has already repudiated any such change in social security laws.
The American electorate is not yet psychologically prepared for a completely libertarian society. A transition to such a society takes time and effort, and involves altering the mind-set of most Americans, who labor under a plethora of economic fallacies and political misconceptions. It will involve a near-total restructuring of the educational system, which today serves the liberal-left education bureaucracy and Democratic Party, not the student or parent. It will require a merciless and continuous expose of the bias in the mainstream media (the Internet, blogs, and talk radio have been extremely successful in this regard over the past few years). And it will require understanding the influence and importance of the Teresa Kerry-like Foundations who work in the shadows to undermine our constitutional system of checks and balances.
Most of all, it will require the American people -- including many libertarians ââ¬â to realize the overwhelming dangerousness of the American Left ââ¬â a Fifth Column comprised of the elements mentioned above, dedicated to achieving their goal of a totally internationally dominated America, and a true world-wide Fascism.
Thus far their long-term plans have been quite successful. A Kerry presidency will fully open their pipeline to infusions of taxpayer-funded cash and political pull. At least a continued Bush presidency would help to stem this tide, and along the way it might well succeed in preserving Western civilization against the fanatic Islamo-fascists who have the will, and may shortly have the weapons capability, to bring it to an end.
When the stakes are not high it is sometimes acceptable, even desirable, to vote for a ââ¬Ëminor partyââ¬â¢ candidate who cannot possibly win, just to ââ¬Åget the word outââ¬Â and to promote the ideals for which that candidate stands. But when the stakes are high, as they are in this election, it becomes imperative that one should choose, not the candidate one considers philosophically ideal, but the best one available who has the most favorable chance of winning. The forthcoming election will determine whether it is the Republicans or the Democrats that win the presidency. That is an undeniable reality. If the election is as close as it was in 2000, libertarian voters may make the difference as to who wins in various critical ââ¬ÅBattle Groundââ¬Â states and therefore the presidency itself. That is the situation in which we find ourselves in 2004. And that is why I believe voting for George W. Bush is the most libertarian thing we can do.
We stand today at an important electoral crossroads for the future of liberty, and as libertarians our first priority is to promote liberty and free markets, which is not necessarily the same as to promote the Libertarian Party. This time, if we vote libertarian, we may win a tiny rhetorical battle, but lose the larger war.
John Hospers Los Angeles, CA
2004-10-27 18:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]The Democratic Party today is a haven for anti-Semites, racists, radical environmentalists, plundering trial lawyers, government employee unions, and numerous other self-serving elites who despise the Constitution and loath private property.[/QUOTE]
Out of that entire laundry list, why on earth would this guy list 'Anti-Semite' first? To a 'libertarian' I wouldn't think that reason would even cross their mind.
Only explanation I can think of is that this guy Hospers is jewish and shilling for Israel. He knows Bush is in Sharon's back pocket.
2004-10-27 18:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle] They will attempt to enact ââ¬Åhate speechââ¬Â and ââ¬Åhate crimeââ¬Â laws and re-institute the Fairness Doctrine, initiate lawsuits, and create new regulations designed to suppress freedom of speech and intimidate their political adversaries. They will call it ââ¬Ådefending human rights.ââ¬Â This sort of activity may well make up the core of a Kerry administration Justice Department that will have no truck with the rule of law except as a weapon to use against opponents. [/QUOTE]
Um, HELLO!! It was[B] George Bush [/B] who just recently signed the "Anti-Semitism Awareness Act" to monitor, record and grade countries throughout the world for anti-semitism, including the USA, instituting, in essence, world-wide suppression of free speech.
This Libertarian founder's endorsement of George Bush is a complete mockery to real Libertarians. I can't even think of how a real Libertarian could even consider George Bush for president for four more years.
2004-10-27 18:36 | User Profile
I like the way that the Jews are manipulating the Americans against each other in order to pretend that there is a real race going on.
At the end the real winners will be the Jews no matter who the winner is for the presidency of the US.
Till such a time that the true Americans take over the power in the US the Jews will be the only winners ALL THE TIME.
2004-10-27 18:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]I like the way that the Jews are manipulating the Americans against each other in order to pretend that there is a real race going on. .[/QUOTE]
Dream world!
2004-10-27 23:44 | User Profile
xmetalhead,
Yes most sickening. You are most Right:"Um, HELLO!! It was George Bush who just recently signed the "Anti-Semitism Awareness Act" ... This Libertarian founder's endorsement of George Bush is a complete mockery to real Libertarians."
[QUOTE] They will attempt to enact ââ¬Åhate speechââ¬Â and ââ¬Åhate crimeââ¬Â laws and re-institute the Fairness Doctrine, initiate lawsuits, and create new regulations designed to suppress freedom of speech and intimidate their political adversaries. They will call it ââ¬Ådefending human rights.ââ¬Â This sort of activity may well make up the core of a Kerry administration Justice Department that will have no truck with the rule of law except as a weapon to use against opponents.[/QUOTE]
What sickeing nonsense! Calling the Demorats anti-Semites! 85% of them voted for Al Gore. [QUOTE]The Democratic Party today is a haven for anti-Semites, racists, radical environmentalists, plundering trial lawyers, government employee unions, and numerous other self-serving elites who despise the Constitution and loath private property. [/QUOTE]
Churchill! Churchil put Europe under Soviet slavery and let the marxist take over the UK as well. The Patriot Act and Bushie's orther act could destroy what is left of freedom in America. This is sickening nonsense.
[QUOTE]The president has been berated for taking even minimal steps to deal with the dangers of this war (the allegations made against the Patriot Act seem to me based more on hysteria and political opportunism than on reality). But Bush, like Churchill, has stood steadfast in the face of it, and in spite of the most virulent hate and disinformation campaign that any American president has had to endure. [/QUOTE]
2004-10-28 07:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]The Democratic Party today is a haven for anti-Semites, racists, radical environmentalists
If that were actually true, I'd likely become a Democrat!
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]There are already numerous stories of brownshirt types committing violence against Republican campaign headquarters all over the country,
There are also stories of leprechauns and alien abductions....yet at least one actually HEARS those stories from time-to-time, rather than having to be informed of their existence via the LP nominee from 1972...
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]and Democrat thugs harassing Republican voters at the polls.
Can't we at least wait until Tuesday before we make such allegations?
In any event, beating up GOP operatives ONLY bothers me to the extent such tactics might be applied to actual decent people, as opposed to verminous Bush shills (most of whom, frankly, could do with a good asskicking). Although the Freepers would probably become sexually aroused by it....Now there's a nasty thought; Jim Robinson with an erection....hide the cantaloupes!
In any event, I had a little 5-minute chat with Dr. Hospers in 1994. He seemed very nice, but also very, very elderly. He's probably senile by now....
2004-10-28 07:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]...hide the cantaloupes![/QUOTE]
hey Hey HEY!!!! Don't knock it until you TRY it!!! :smoke: :biggrin:
2004-10-28 12:11 | User Profile
Originally Posted by Gabrielle There are already numerous stories of brownshirt types committing violence against Republican campaign headquarters all over the country,
Originally posted Kevin_O'Keeffe There are also stories of leprechauns and alien abductions....yet at least one actually HEARS those stories from time-to-time, rather than having to be informed of their existence via the LP nomi ee from 1972...
**You asked for it... here it is... **
[img]http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2004/10/01/2002051575.jpg[/img]
"Above is a photo of the Bush/Cheney HQ been vandelized in Seattle... Which is one of three violent breakin's at a Bush/Cheney HQ this week! Question: What are you trying to say? Vote Kerry or die? and you call US Hilter-esque?
Politics through fear is one of the Democrats biggest complaints about President Bush. They say he "made us afraid so he could go to war with Iraq"... through FEAR. When actually he is just following the "Bush Doctrine": "Stop Any Threat Before It Hits Us"... Makes sense to me... I would prefer that then to Kerry's "I will meet every attack with Swift Relatiation."
Question? Do the Democrats use fear in politics? YUP, let me count the ways..."
[url]http://wynnereport.blogspot.com/2004/10/politics-through-fear-look-at.html[/url]
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"The stories have been popping up in paper after paper, news report after television news report. Democratic operatives are threatening to use and some are even actually using violence to intimidate Republican headquarters nationwide.
'Democrat Slugs Area GOP Chief, GPD Says' - Politics in Gainesville turned rough and tumble Thursday night when, police say, a social behavior sciences instructor - a Democrat - punched the chairman of the Alachua County Republican Executive Committee in the face.
The Republican Party of Wisconsin hasn't decided whether to press charges against protestors who stormed the RPW office in West Allis Tuesday. RPW spokesman Chris Lato said the protestors, who covered themselves in Kerry/Edwards stickers and waved campaign signs, were "clearly trespassing" and that the party has considered heightening security at the West Allis location. "This was clearly a form of harassment and it went on for, what I'm told, almost 30 minutes," Lato said.
A group of protestors stormed and then ransacked a Bush-Cheney headquarters building in Orlando, Fla., Tuesday, according to Local 6 News in Orlando. Local 6 News reported that several people from the group of 100 Orlando protestors face possible assault charges after the group forced their way inside the Republican headquarters office. While in the building, some of the protestors drew horns and a mustache on a poster of President George W. Bush and poured piles of letters in the office, according to the report.
In Miami, two people in orange T-shirts walked into the Republican headquarters and said they wanted to volunteer for the Bush campaign, said Miami police spokesman Delrish Moss. As they filled out the paperwork, the doors burst open and more than 100 protesters filed into the room. ''After much shouting and pushing and shoving, they went out into the street,'' Moss said, adding that scared staffers called 911.
The group was trying to deliver plastic bins filled with postcards when about a dozen protesters found their way into the headquarters lobby, which was blocked by an eight-foot-long Bush/Cheney sign that had been placed against an interior door, the Star Tribune of Minneapolis reported in its Wednesday editions... ...A Bush volunteer attempted to shut the door, then to push out several protesters, including Jon Youngdahl of the Minnesota AFL-CIO, who struggled to yell through his bullhorn while the volunteer kept searching for a mute button on it. Others blasted air horns in the lobby while one man pushed repeatedly on the campaign's intercom to yell his protest.
Blogger Robert Musil: Many Republicans are afraid to put Bush-Cheney bumper stickers on their cars or signs on their lawns because they are afraid of physical retaliation from angry liberals.
It is not just that one sees few Bush-Cheney bumper stickers and lawn signs - even in areas in which one knows his support is high. I do not have such a bumper sticker or lawn sign. In fact, most Bush supporters I have asked, even those who are fairly passionate on the topic, just don't think the risk of a key-scratch or broken home or car window, or much worse, is worth whatever benefit one receives from a partisan bumper sticker or lawn sign. There are just too many personal stories of cars and homes defaced and damaged.
Around Howard County [MD] over the past several weeks, Republican campaign signs have taken a beating. Theyââ¬â¢ve been stolen, defaced, and ââ¬â in one case ââ¬â burned. For congressional candidate Tony Salazar, the problem has reached his own Ellicott City yard.
Madison homeowners are livid after vandals defaced their homes. Someone burned an 8-foot-by-8-foot Nazi swastika on a home's lawn near where Bush-Cheney signs were posted. The vandals used grass killer to spray the symbol. Several nearby homes were vandalized -- all were within a two-block radius on the West Side, near Ice Age Trail, News 3 reported. State Republican Party officials claim it's the latest in a series of desperate acts by Democrats.
Gunshots shattered the plate-glass front doors of a local Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters Tuesday morning before volunteers reported to work. "For someone to use that level of violence to try to make a political point, it is just a shock," said Chad Tindell, Knox County Republican chairman. "
[url]http://s88251339.onlinehome.us/smartercop/archives/002413.html[/url]
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PRO-KERRY FORCES INVADE GOP VICTORY CENTER
Oct 5th, 2004
(MILWAUKEE) ââ¬â More than 50 demonstrators supporting Democrat presidential candidate John Kerry stormed a Republican campaign office in West Allis at mid-day today, trespassing, creating a disturbance through the use of a bullhorn in the office and then refusing to leave when asked.
The Chairman of the Republican Party of Wisconsin (RPW) condemned the action by Kerry supporters, and asked the Kerry campaign and the Democrat Party of Wisconsin to do the same.
ââ¬ÅDo John Kerry and Wisconsin Democrats really believe this is conduct becoming of a presidential candidate and his campaign?ââ¬Â RPW Chairman Rick Graber asked. ââ¬ÅIt is unfortunate that Team Kerry feels the need to engage in such childish and obnoxious behavior.
ââ¬ÅThe President and his campaign will continue to talk about the issues in Wisconsin,ââ¬Â Graber added. ââ¬ÅLetââ¬â¢s hope that someday soon, the Kerry campaign and Wisconsin Democrats will join us and put an end to this foolishness.ââ¬Â
Graber called the latest incident part of a disturbing trend of criminal conduct by anti-Bush forces in Wisconsin, pointing to an incident in Madison last week in which Bush-Cheney yard signs were stolen from the yards of three homes. The vandals then used chemicals to burn swastikas into the lawns of the homes, which were within a two-block radius of one another.
[url]http://www.wisgop.org/view.phtml?func=ch&lg=&id=83[/url]
Letter on Voter Intimidation to AFL-CIO President John Sweeney
To: Interested Parties From: Bush-Cheney '04 Communications Date: 10/11/04 Re: Violence At Republican And Bush- Cheney '04 Campaign Headquarters Across The Country
"Over the past several weeks, acts of violence and vandalism have occurred at Republican and Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters across the country. In addition to the injuries, property damage and disruption associated with these acts, these events have created a threatening and intimidating atmosphere abhorrent to our democratic process.
On October 5th, according to news reports, witnesses, police reports and admissions of your members, the AFL-CIO, as part of a national strategy, protested at more than a dozen of our campaign and party headquarters across the country. In many locations, the protestors attempted to enter, or entered, campaign or party facilities. As one protestor said, "Actually, we're storming into an office." In Orlando, Florida, injuries and damage were sustained. Protestors forced their way into the facility, fracturing the arm of one staffer, and vandalized the office. In Michigan, protestors entered a headquarters and engaged in activities apparently intended to disrupt volunteers trying to make phone calls."
Read the whole letter... [url]http://www.georgewbush.com/news/Read.aspx?ID=3874[/url]
Originally Posted by AlphaNumericus [url]http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/p...7/NEWS/41027002[/url] Typical Jew DemocRAT... Why is it always the party of 'tolerance' that explodes into violence? .. nice find!
Man arrested in assault on Katherine Harris
A man accused of attempting to run over U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris with his Cadillac was arrested today.
Harris and a group of supporters were campaigning on the northwest corner of the intersection on Fruitville Road and North Washington Boulevard. Tuesday at about 6 p.m. when they spotted a car heading toward them quickly. The Cadillac drove up the sidewalk directly at Harris and others before swerving and driving away. ______----------------------------------------------
Republican Headquarters in Gettysburg, PA vandalized again Old Lady, after driving by Republican Headquarters ^ | October 3, 2004 | Old Lady
Posted on 10/03/2004 6:57:29 AM PDT by Old Lady
Update to this article: [url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1232770/posts?page=51,45[/url]
This Sunday morning my husband left the house to buy a newspaper, drove by the Republican Headquarters at Chambersburg and Washington Streets, and saw graffiti written all over the plate glass windows -- some swear words and something about soldiers dying.
This Republican office is closed Sunday. We reported it to 911 (state police, as the local police have limited hours and were not on duty). We also reported it to local Rep. Stephen Maitland's office (on an answering machine as they are not open), and reported it to the AP.
As noted above in an earlier article, sometime Thursday after the presidential debate, somebody threw 2 beer bottles through a plate glass window of the same office, created a massive hole and shattered the window. We went up there to get a replacement sign as our Bush sign was stolen from our yard the night of the debate. The office opened at noon and the pregnant office worker was close to tears, worried about her safety and the safety of her baby. Approx. 2 weeks earlier, someone shot the windows with a pellet gun, damaging but not breaking the glass.
Republican Headquarters attacked in Gettysburg, PA, plate glass window broken Old Lady after visting Republican Headquarters, Gettysburg, PA ^ | October 1, 2004 | Old Lady
Posted on 10/01/2004 10:48:38 AM PDT by Old Lady
Last night someone threw a rock through the front plate glass window of Republican Headquarters in Gettysburg, PA at Washington and Chambersburg Streets (phone 717-263-7999 if you want to verify). A few weeks ago someone also shot the plate glass window up with a pellet gun. The incident last night put a big hole through the window and shattered the glass. No one was in the office when this happened.
Wake up, Kevin !
2004-10-28 13:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE]There are already numerous stories of brownshirt types committing violence against Republican campaign headquarters . . . [/QUOTE]
He uses the word "brownshirt"? brownshirt committed violence against marxists for the most part. Should he not have called them Red Guards or something?
[QUOTE]Democrat thugs harassing Republican voters at the polls.[/QUOTE] This makes no sense, how can they harass Republican voters, the vote is done secret.
**The violence and foolishness that is even more upsetting because their is so little real difference between Bush and Kerry. **
2004-10-30 08:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Originally Posted by Gabrielle[color=green] There are already numerous stories of brownshirt types committing violence against Republican campaign headquarters all over the country,[/color]
Originally posted Kevin_O'Keeffe[color=red] There are also stories of leprechauns and alien abductions....yet at least one actually HEARS those stories from time-to-time, rather than having to be informed of their existence via the LP nomi ee from 1972... [/color]
**You asked for it... here it is... **
[img]http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2004/10/01/2002051575.jpg[/img]
"Above is a photo of the Bush/Cheney HQ been vandelized in Seattle... Which is one of three violent breakin's at a Bush/Cheney HQ this week! Question: What are you trying to say? Vote Kerry or die? and you call US Hilter-esque?[/QUOTE]
OKay, so Democrats broke a window in Seattle. Big deal. Some people are extremely angry about the treason that is destroying this nation, and a few are doing something about their anger. They really shouldn't bother until they're actually willing to go all the way and overthrow the system, but its refreshing to see some people lash out at the operatives of the enemies of America and the world. In point of fact, if I thought using violence against Bush/Cheney campaign personnel would be useful, I'd not only be actively encouring it in every forum I could find, I'd be repeatedly firing guns into every GOP campaign headquarters in my county and all adjacent counties. But, at this stage, such activity is essentially useless and could get one in a lot of trouble, so its foolish and potentially quite counterproductive.
In any event, there are probably some stories about Republicans using violence against Democrats this year as well, but that didn't interest you. Every four years, anger boils over to such an extent that there are a few of these incidents. Its worse this year, for the very obvious reason that tens of millions of Americans are aware that Bush/Cheney are destroying what's left of America, and must be defeated at something approximating all costs, and so I have no doubt Democrats are doing more of this stuff than Republicans this year. In 1988 and 1992, the Republicans were much more violent than the Democrats, so it just depends on the dynamic of any given election. This story (and all others in a similar vein) are the very height of trivial irrelevance.
2004-10-30 12:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]OKay, so Democrats broke a window in Seattle. Big deal. Some people are extremely angry about the treason that is destroying this nation, and a few are doing something about their anger. They really shouldn't bother until they're actually willing to go all the way and overthrow the system, but its refreshing to see some people lash out at the operatives of the enemies of America and the world. In point of fact, if I thought using violence against Bush/Cheney campaign personnel would be useful, I'd not only be actively encouring it in every forum I could find, I'd be repeatedly firing guns into every GOP campaign headquarters in my county and all adjacent counties. But, at this stage, such activity is essentially useless and could get one in a lot of trouble, so its foolish and potentially quite counterproductive.
In any event, there are probably some stories about Republicans using violence against Democrats this year as well, but that didn't interest you. Every four years, anger boils over to such an extent that there are a few of these incidents. Its worse this year, for the very obvious reason that tens of millions of Americans are aware that Bush/Cheney are destroying what's left of America, and must be defeated at something approximating all costs, and so I have no doubt Democrats are doing more of this stuff than Republicans this year. In 1988 and 1992, the Republicans were much more violent than the Democrats, so it just depends on the dynamic of any given election. This story (and all others in a similar vein) are the very height of trivial irrelevance.[/QUOTE]
Bloody hell, you have an excuse for everything... just stick your head back in the sand, Kevin.
2004-10-30 13:39 | User Profile
Why my Vote went to George Bush
Authored by Beth on Tuesday, October 26, 2004.
Security.
Because I don't want our National Security Dependant upon the good will of the United Nations - an organization made up of mostly tyrants.
Because I work hard for my money and I want to keep the tax cuts that President Bush made possible.
Because I'm a veteran and my husband is a disabled veteran and that man who opposes the President has already hurt POWs - God only knows how much he will hurt today's military men and women.
Because President Bush understands core American values - life is a precious gift - one which should not be taken easily.
Because President Bush is not going to tax my guns. John Kerry will do everything in his power to tax my guns. If he can, he will take my guns.
Because I am better off now then I was 4 years ago. My own salary has increased by $22,000 since President Bush was elected.
Because President Bush supports the troops and will never establish a draft.
Because First Lady, Laura Bush, is indeed a lady, who I greatly admire for her strong beliefs.
Because even though President Bush is a Christian, he does not wear his Christianity on his sleeve as a reason for all he does as President Carter did his.
Because George Bush speaks just like most of us.
Because John Kerry is from the Northeast and thinks he is better than all of us and seems to think he needs to speak slowly enough so we can all understand what he is saying.
Because Teresa Kerry is a shallow, rude, bitch born and raised in another country as a rich bitch and has never done a lick of real work in her life.
Because the Bush twins are normal girls - I did the same things they did when I was in college, they are cute, they are funny, they are just a couple of years older than Andy and August, yet the press has gone after Jenna and Barbara's butts for the last few years - but these girls still do what they can for their dad. Oh, and I have eaten at Chuy's before - not impressed at all. Service sucked!
Because Main Stream Media hate the Bush Presidency, I love it.
Because President Bush is making schools responsible for their funding - No Child Left Behind is a great start to making all the public schools worthy of all the dollars they get - all children, no matter what their background, deserve the very best education this incredibly rich and wonderful country can give them.
Because President Bush will continue to stand with Israel. Gee, maybe that should really be #2.
Because President Bush has actually worked on his ranch, and can chop wood and hack through weeds.
Because John Kerry speaks to us all as if we were idiots, and he is the only person on earth who knows English. The ****head!
Because I can't imagine spending the next four years having to listen to John f'n Kerry drone on and on about whatever. The man has about the most annoying speaking voice of any politician. I so wish the Dems had had enough brains to nominate Lieberman - but I suspect that all the anti-Semitic Dems like Michael Moore were responsible for his defeat.
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2004-10-30 13:44 | User Profile
John Kerry is the favorite American Presidential candidate ... in France.
North Korea televises his speeches verbatim.
Iran ended UN inspections of their nuclear facilities in appreciative response to his nomination.
Kerry's support among American combat veterans is somewhat less enthusiastic.
Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: John Kerry
Writes Hal Cranmer:
I would like to add my two cents about my John Kerry experience. During my career as an Air Force pilot, I spent two years flying a small twin-engine prop plane around the Pacific from my base in Okinawa, Japan. On one trip we had to fly Senator Kerry, his congressional aide, and a Navy Captain (Vietnam, A-4 fighter pilot) who was also in Kerry's party to various locations in Vietnam and Cambodia as part of the MIA/POW talks.
When I met him, he was wearing a shirt with a picture of his sailboat ! on it. I told him I had a small 27' sailboat in Okinawa, he remarked 'Oh I never sail on anything less than 135 feet'. I laughed to myself and realized this guy was no sailor.
When we first flew him into Phnom Penh, he went to the back of the airplane and grabbed the pizza that was put aside for the crew and passed it around to his staff. He was never offered any pizza because they were supposed to have lunch with the Cambodian government once we landed. The pizza would have been our only meal that day. He just never cared to ask.
Then when we picked him up in Cambodia, he was an hour late getting to the airport. We could not start the engines and therefore the air conditioning until he arrived. Phnom Penh at that time was over 100 degrees with 95% humidity and we were basically sitting in a greenhouse behind the cockpit windows. When he finally did arrive, we were wringing out our clothes from the perspiration. He walks out of the air conditioned car, into the airplane and asks us 'Could you guys get the air conditioning running, I'm a little warm." The other pilot had to physically restrain me from going back there and picking a fight.
Then we took him into Noi Bai airfield in Hanoi. After we picked him up the next day (he stayed the night in Vietnam, we stayed in Bangkok) we taxied out, ran up the engines for takeoff, and noticed that our prop rpm was vibrating all over the place. We taxied off to the side to look at it, but there was a good possibility that there was an engine malfunction and the engine may fail if we took off with it. Well, Mr. Senator sticks his head up in the cockpit and says 'this plane WILL take - off, I have a press conference in Bangkok in three hours!" (Maybe this is an indication of how he will run the FAA). We ran the engines again, and did not have the problem, so we took off and made it back.
During the flight, he told everyone how he had taken a Cessna (a small General aviation plane) up with a fighter pilot, and the fighter pilot remarked that Kerry was one of the best pilots he had ever seen. I don't know about other pilots out there, but it's hard to imagine a little, single-engine prop plane pilot being able to show the 'right stuff'.
After Kerry left the plane, the Navy Captain came up to us, apologized and said basically that he knows Kerry is a jerk and that we should be glad we don't have to deal with him every day....
Or will we?
WE HAD BETTER GET OUT AND VOTE!!
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2004-10-30 20:24 | User Profile
Gabby, You have done a first class job of showing why Kerry (Kohn) is unfit for the Presidency. However, in all fairness, we should look at both sides of the manure pile.
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Bush Hunting (c) 2004 by NNN
THE BUCK NEVER STOPS WITH GEORGE W. BUSH
by H. Millard (c) 2004
H. Millard index
There's a principle of leadership that holds that one can always delegate authority, but one can never delegate responsibility. In other words, if you're the boss you're responsible for what happens on your watch. The buck is supposed to stop with you. This principle of leadership appears to be alien to George W. Bush and the assorted clowns, neocons, sycophants, preppies and other phonies, including the big mouth so-called conservative radio and TV talkers who are attached like ticks to Bush's administration in one way or another.
These guys always blame others for everything that goes wrong. It's never their fault. It's always some other guy who is responsible. They remind me of a murderer who recently blamed his victim for making the murderer a murderer. "Hey, it wasn't my fault I murdered the guy, I told him not to move and he moved. He made me kill him. It's his fault. He's the real murderer, not me."
No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? "Hey, the CIA and other intelligence agencies were at fault for giving us false information."
A massive budget deficit replacing a huge surplus? "Hey, that's Clinton's fault. And even though he gave us that huge surplus, things were turning while he was in office, we just know it. And, hey, 911 happened."
Factories being sent overseas? "Hey, that's not our fault."
Jobs being lost in record numbers? "Hey, that's not our fault."
Too few American troops on the ground in Iraq? "Hey, that's not our fault. We give the generals whatever they want (read, it's the generals' fault)."
About 380 tons of very potent explosives missing in Iraq? "Hey, that's not our fault. Some other guy is to blame."
The increasing number of U.S. casualties in Iraq? "Hey, they're all volunteers. It's their own fault they were killed."
Not capturing Osama bin Laden? "Hey, that isn't our fault."
Prisoners tortured by U.S. forces? "Hey, that's the responsibility of some privates in the military."
The fact that the U.S. border with Mexico isn't being properly guarded and millions and millions of illegal aliens are simply walking into the U.S. to screw up our country? "Hey, that's not our fault. We're putting more guards on the border (read, the Canadian border)."
Millions of Americans with no health care while the administration ships our tax money overseas? Hey, that's not our fault. What do you want, socialized medicine?"
A look at some of the neocon Bush shill websites shows a constant stream of articles blaming everyone but Bush for everything that has gone wrong on his watch. Their favorite fall guy is still Bill Clinton even though Clinton hasn't been in office for four years.
We are constantly told that the President is the most powerful person in the world. If so, then why is he so powerless to run a tight ship? Who's in charge? Who's the boss? And, if Bush is in charge, shouldn't he take responsibility? Shouldn't the buck stop with him?
There's something very wrong with Bush and his administration that is more than a little reminiscent of Humphrey Bogart's character, Captain Queeg, in the Caine Mutiny.
That's why this Republican is going to leave the herd this year and vote for John Kerry. Kerry isn't my ideal candidate by a long shot, but in this case the devil we don't know can't be any worse than the devil we do know. Also, if Bush is reelected, you can count on a draft of some type. George II saying there won't be a draft is like George I saying "Read my lips, there will be no new taxes."