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Thread ID: 15439 | Posts: 9 | Started: 2004-10-25
2004-10-25 08:36 | User Profile
Ashlee Simpson is (until last Satuday) a top pop star. But, on Saturday Night Live a technical error resulted in her being exposed as a fraud.
Apparently, the wrong pre-recorded lyrics was started by the sound technician. The band (really playing instruments) gracefully switched to the new song. But, Simpson drops her microphone to her waist at which point the sound technician fades out the lyrics. Several times she starts dancing (if I may call it that), apparently waiting for the correct lyrics to be played so that she can resume lip syncing. After a bit, she just walks off stage while the band continues to play.
Many modern pop stars have little singing talant and so depend on lip syncing. This isn't much of a secret. But, just how talentless they are still seems to be unknown to many people.
The band had the ability to dive into the new song, but she didn't. All she had to do was lip sync the new song instead of dropping her microphone. After that, she was still free to sing -- for real. But, apparently she is such a bad singer in real life that she'd prefer to walk off stage in extreme humiliation rather than prove that she can't sing.
I have no interest in Simpson or pop music. But, I see here an example that is common in all parts of society -- technically skilled people pulling all the weight while (often incompetent) others to take the credit.
Just another thought... You know the old joke about how everyone thinks their kid's generation of music is worse than their generation of music? At least in dad's day, the singers could really sing. There are all sorts of clear ways that modern music is worse, such as the highly compressed dynamic range found on all pop CDs (so that there is almost no difference in loudness between any two parts of the music).
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2004-10-25 11:47 | User Profile
Ashlee Simpson became a pop star because of her older sister, Jessica. This is a first for me when reading this; I didn't know that ANY musical act had ever lip-synched vocals on SNL.
Speaking of Jessica, this nice, naive, dumb blondish "Christian" girl doesn't seem to mind doing teasing photos for her cosmetics line and [B]Rolling Stone[/B] cover.
2004-10-26 15:39 | User Profile
So many lies....
After the botched performance, Simpson told SNL viewers that her band played the wrong song. Not true. The band switched songs only after the wrong lyric track was played.
Later, a spokesman admits the wrong tape was played, but lies and says that the track that should have been played was percussion sounds.
Now, Simpson's dad says acid reflux disease had swollen Ashlee's vocal cords. Thus, we now have an admission from the Simpson camp that Simpson intended to lip sinc. But, it's still a lie. It wasn't because of acid reflux. It's because she can't sing.
I found an MP3 of Simpson singing a cappella and without electronic enhancements. It was so bad it hurt my ears. Ironically, I found the MP3 on a fan site that was provided to prove that she can sing.
I didn't catch the radio music awards were she had another chance to sing. They'd deny that she was lip sincing, even if she were. But, with a loud enough band and heavy enough electronic voice enhancement, it would be enough for her fans to think she can sing.
This thread isn't about Ashlee Simpson. It's about the sorry state of modern pop music.
BTW, Robbie, rember when Brittiney Spears pretended to be an example of morality?
2004-10-26 15:52 | User Profile
I briefly heard Ashlee Simpson speak on the radio the other night, when they were covering the story about her much-deserved and overdue disgrace (if only we could get rid of that insipid sister of hers, and throw in Bratney Spears, then we'd be getting things rolling), and all I could think was that if she talks like that, then no way can she sing! Just hearing her speak in that awful tone and childlike cadence was overtly offensive and faintly disgusting....
2004-10-26 16:13 | User Profile
The incredibly sorry state of pop music is a result of the jewish philosophy of business, since they pratically run the entire industry. They give the audience pretty illusions because it's more entertaining than an artist that offers something unique. The unique artists may not sing in a way that dumb Americans would be able to appreciate or the unique artists have song arragements that don't follow the jewish pop formula of verse-chorus-verse, or simply, artists who question authority (gov't) are shunned outright. It's simply part of the dumbing down process of the American masses. I know ADULTS who bought CD's of incredibly pathetic singer Avril Lavigne and listen to them!
The thing is, so many pop singers over the last decade have lip-synced that it's hard to keep count...it's hard to keep count of them all because dozens and dozens of the pop singers disappear after a year on the charts only to be replaced by another. Even that show "American Idol" using lip-syncing. Music, art, film, poetry, books, etc have all been dumbed down and formulated to crush spontaneity. Spontaneity cannot be controlled therefore it's dangerous.
A half-way talented and musically inclined singer could've rolled with the unexpected chaos like what happened to Ashlee Simpson on SNL, but it's not entirely her fault.....she's just a product of the vacuous music industry who only deal with the mediocre.
2004-10-26 17:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Happy Hacker] Just another thought... You know the old joke about how everyone thinks their kid's generation of music is worse than their generation of music? At least in dad's day, the singers could really sing. There are all sorts of clear ways that modern music is worse, such as the highly compressed dynamic range found on all pop CDs (so that there is almost no difference in loudness between any two parts of the music). [/QUOTE]
Perfectly true, though the trendy response to this observation is supposed to be a knowing shake of the head and a pitying (or sneering, depending upon the degree of trendiness being expressed) remark to the effect that the speaker is an Old Fart. Thus the equation of modern=good is properly reinforced in all minds.
For whatever reason, I never did care for rock music, even as a kid. Rock has always been aimed at young and -- for the most part -- musically unsophisticated minds, but somehow I have never been able to listen to most of it with a straight face. When Bill Haley and Buddy Holly hit the scene, I couldn't believe they were serious, and their multitude of successors impressed me even less.
When "the Sixties" (actually the period from roughly 1964 to 1974) were ramrodded down the throat of the amerikan consumer, the styles changed but the level of talent (with few exceptions) did not. But [I]no[/I] one wanted to look like an Old Fart, so even those who didn't like it pretended to. This is a marketing ploy so immensely successful that it continues almost unaltered to this day.
The succeeding Disco Era was simply bizarre, and with the coming of first Punk, then "New Wave," it looked as if the total destruction of actual talent as a relevant factor in amerikan popular music was complete. But then came Rap, and my capacity to believe the impossible was stretched yet again.
We now must endure "music" that consists solely of some sweating, incoherent negro jabbering and grunting over a jagged electronic soundtrack that's suitable only for vibrating the trunk lids of wiggers' automobiles. Can it get any lower? Yes, and it probably will, if past history is any guide. There now exists at least one entire generation -- probably two; arguably three -- of musical illiterates who think that four spastic kids with guitars and a drum kit are a "band," and get offended when anyone suggests that "death metal" or "neo-funk" are in some way inferior to Wagner or Puccini. It's all in the marketing, and no one on this forum will have to be told who does the marketing.
For the record, there [I]have[/I] been a few examples of rock music that I found genuinely musical. Jethro Tull's [I]Thick as a Brick[/I] was a largely successful attempt to blend hard rock with jazz in a satisfying way. Though the Beatles were never the "geniuses" that their breathless worshippers claimed, [I]Abbey Road[/I] was an album that still stands repeated listening, and occasional gems like [I]Eleanor Rigby[/I] show us that somewhere beneath the flowers and the self-indulgence glowed at least a spark of real ability. The harmonies of the Beach Boys -- though not their puerile lyrics -- were enjoyable, at least until they were airplayed to death. The Skyliners and the Platters (even negro groups were capable of worthy music at one time, kiddies) always had a good, professional sound. There are probably a few others here and there, but those are the ones that come to mind most readily.
There was a breather period from about 1945 through 1955, which constituted the last gasp of an America still mostly in the hands of Americans (note that I said [I]mostly[/I]); we were still reeling from the devastation worked on our social fabric by WWII, and no one was in the mood for social experimentation. After that, the collapse became a landslide as a new generation was trained to regard its own past with loathing and derision, and the Media Lords haven't looked back since.
You can tell a lot about a civilization from its music.
2004-10-27 03:27 | User Profile
only she had the bad luck of getting caught. They are all " products ". Sad state of Zionist control puppets. Even sadder how the youth of this country is infected with this tripe.
2004-10-27 20:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]The incredibly sorry state of pop music is a result of the jewish philosophy of business (since they pratically run the entire industry)[/QUOTE] I totally agree (add ",dude" for ISO6000000 California-speak compliance).
However, I've put the part about the Jews running the industry in parentheses, because it's the theory that art=business which is destructive even if the Jews are all gassed.
2004-10-27 23:11 | User Profile
Arkady,
I love a lot of music, but you just made my day when you mentioned two of my favorite groups: The Skyliners and The Platters. I am 29 years old, and grew up listening to that music through my dad, who was heavily into the "oldies" music.