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Thread ID: 15321 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2004-10-15
2004-10-15 08:18 | User Profile
This is an Orthodox board in which the liberals are advocating white racial suicide.
Join in on the "Miscellaneous" and "Praxis" sections. You'll see the appropriate threads when you look over these forums.
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2004-10-22 05:46 | User Profile
wild_bill,
Yes sickening, I have said that the Orthodox Church has a good number of cultural marxist in it. They not put in anything like Vatican II so far.
You should have given us a thread link too.
Racial Pride/Tribalism and Orthodoxy. Are they compatable? [url]http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3089[/url]
[QUOTE] Anastasios
I personally prefer Hispanic culture to white-bread WASP American culture of today (repeat: of today). Many of my friends are Hispanic (I learned Spanish, too), and I am constantly amazed by their strong work ethic, family ties, religious devotion, and love. I prefer their music and love the food. I think it's wonderful that there are so many Hispanics in the USA.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]OrthodoxyOrDeath
What makes people think "Whites" are better is beyond me. "Whites", partcularly those who only a few centuries ago were barbarian hordes, were among the most uncivilized in the world and are not responsible for any great success's, unless one considers mans cleverness toward materialism and science "civilization" and "success".
I always thought Native Americans had one of the best civilizations. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Anastasios
Hey Brendan,
I laughed so hard when you said my description of white American culture of the present day is racist. I'm white so I can't be racist against my own race and culture! LOL You are killing me.
Brendan, why not post some statistics? Hispanic people may have higher rates of the things you describe but that is due to higher rates of poverty. Here in New York I know or know of many succesfull Hispanics who are doctors, lawyers, etc.
Why should I go to Mexico for Hispanic culture when I can get it here in NY?
And your comment about there countries being so messed up--hardly the fault of their culture. More like economicly being taken advantage of for centuries and not coming from a democratic tradition (Spanish colonization vs. English). Things are turning around now.
There was a reason I decided to marry a European immigrant (Slovak). That's because many (not all) of the white American girls had no idea what family is all about. It takes Catholic or Orthodox culture to get that. Mainline Protestantism, which is the basis of the USA's culture, is a family-destroying force that encourages individualism. Catholic/Orthodox culture is family and community centered. I'll take that any day.
Hispanic people are so awesome, you should really get to know some.
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[QUOTE]brendan
anastasios wrote: I personally prefer Hispanic culture to white-bread WASP American culture of today (repeat: of today). Many of my friends are Hispanic (I learned Spanish, too), and I am constantly amazed by their strong work ethic, family ties, religious devotion, and love.
I notice the racist way how you describe European-American culture.
I'm amazed at their high welfare rate, alcoholism rate, abuse rate, AIDS rate, crime rate, illegitimacy rate, and school drop-out rate.
If the Hispanics create such wonderful social conditions, why are their countries such a mess that they want to leave? I find it strange that non-white people only want to come to white countries. Then when they get here, all many of them do is complain about what a racist country America is.
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I prefer their music and love the food. I think it's wonderful that there are so many Hispanics in the USA.
Maybe you should just move to Mexico. Then you could get all the Hispanic culture and people you could want.[/QUOTE]
2004-10-22 05:54 | User Profile
wild_bill,
Any thought on this story? I found it sickening. Patriarch of Constantinople hates kerchiefs? I guess he would have preferred the women gathered to welcome him had been dressed like Bittney Spears.
[QUOTE]Patriarch of Constantinople hates kerchiefs? What foolishness.
Patriarch of Constantinople hates kerchiefs?
Newspaper and Periodical Articles: What Is Happening in the Church of America The Greek lobby and the rival groups A translation of the Greek article which appeared in the Athens newspaper VIMA, July 4, 1999 By P. Panagiotou and Maria Antoniadou.
The Ephraimites: Previously a monk of the Holy Mountain, Ephraim has gathered around him a group of faithful who literally drink "water in his name." When the Ecumenical Patriarch in 1997 visited Arizona in the United States, he experienced an unexpected surprise. The magnificent welcome offered by Hegumen Ephraim at his monastery apparently shocked, rather than pleased, the Patriarch because the hundreds of women who had gathered to welcome him wore kerchiefs on their heads in cosmopolitan America. Similar kerchiefs were worn by all the young girls who had finished grade school. For Patriarch Bartholomew, who fights against fundamentalism, the specter was unexpectedly displeasing.
[url]http://www.pokrov.org/controversial/ephraim.html[/url]
BIOGRAPHY OF BARTHOLOMEW [url]http://www.patriarchate.org/biography.html[/url]
Patriarch of Constantinople hates kerchiefs?(Original Dissent) [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8578&highlight=women+head[/url]
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2004-10-22 10:44 | User Profile
Christian boards of all hues are amongst the worst places for censorship on the net. Willingness to even consider views opposing the secular orthodoxy (except perhaps sexuality and abortion) is zero.
I remember posting on one describe as "dissenting" and making the mildest criticisms of the churches ecumenically following every decadent secular organisation going, by describing BNP members of voters as "spitting in the face of God" for holding their beliefs.
Immediately I was flamed (threats of physical violence typical) and banned.
2004-10-22 15:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jim]Christian boards of all hues are amongst the worst places for censorship on the net. Willingness to even consider views opposing the secular orthodoxy (except perhaps sexuality and abortion) is zero.[/QUOTE]
I listen to a good bit of Christian radio and the one thing I always wonder is when it was that "racism" became the greatest sin one could ever commit.
2004-10-22 15:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jim]Christian boards of all hues are amongst the worst places for censorship on the net. Willingness to even consider views opposing the secular orthodoxy (except perhaps sexuality and abortion) is zero.
I remember posting on one describe as "dissenting" and making the mildest criticisms of the churches ecumenically following every decadent secular organisation going, by describing BNP members of voters as "spitting in the face of God" for holding their beliefs.
Immediately I was flamed (threats of physical violence typical) and banned.[/QUOTE]And the conservative sites are pharisaical, anti-intellectual and obsessively witch-hunting. IMO, as a Catholic, the worst is Karl Keating's Catholicanswers.org. Most of the people on this site are ex-Protestant, bible-thumping neo-cons. Trust me, you will be banned by challenging the credentials of any of the apologists or pointing out their errors (by citing rock-solid sources).
BTW, I'm a big fan of the BNP (like everyone with a mind here at OD).
2004-10-22 19:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]wild_bill,
Yes sickening, I have said that the Orthodox Church has a good number of cultural marxist in it. They not put in anything like Vatican II so far.
You should have given us a thread link too.
Racial Pride/Tribalism and Orthodoxy. Are they compatable? [url]http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3089[/url][/QUOTE]
I think that thread got started after I made my initial post here.
2004-10-22 19:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]wild_bill,
Yes sickening, I have said that the Orthodox Church has a good number of cultural marxist in it. They not put in anything like Vatican II so far.
You should have given us a thread link too.
Racial Pride/Tribalism and Orthodoxy. Are they compatable? [url]http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3089[/url][/QUOTE]
I also wanted to mention that there's obviously some Slavic supremacy happening here. Notice they keep talking about "white bread" Americans (i.e Anglo-Saxon), specifically excluding themselves from the comparisons.
The one woman, "Serb Mama," who had actually made some pro-white comments in other threads, referred to Serb men as "our men" when she was telling off an American Marine about how US soldiers don't know what war was about. It was only later that she revealed (to my surprise) that she wasn't from Serbia, but born here in the US. I told her to go to Serbia and take some Mexicans with her. I was banned after that. More than racial marxists, those people are just pro-Slav hypocrites.
If I wasn't there, they'd be fighting amongst themselves like they usually do.
2004-10-22 21:24 | User Profile
wild_bill,
What do you make of the story about the Patriarchate of Constantinople being upset because the women wore kerchiefs?
I have always found Eastern rite Churches most beautiful. I have seen some band new ones that look as if they were build 500 years ago. I have a Slavic surname but I am a Protestant of mainly British Blood. Parts of my family came to America in the 1600's. So I do not much like attacks on old stock Americans. The W.A.S.P. is the American ethnic group.
2004-10-23 13:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]wild_bill,
What do you make of the story about the Patriarchate of Constantinople being upset because the women wore kerchiefs? [/QUOTE]
The common criticism I hear is that women do this to mimic the women of eastern Europe rather than to obey Paul's recommendations. I would guess that the Patriarch probably wouldn't have said anything if the women had been wearing fashionable hats or even lace prayer veils.
It seems a little odd to me to see American-born female converts to Orthodoxy wearing babuskas. But there are also immigrants in the US parishes who came from eastern Europe where the babuska is common and they continue the practice.
In my parish, there's not many wearing babuskas. The women who wear headcoverings use hats, a sheer scarve, or a normal lace veil. The bubuska thing is more common in the traditionalist parishes.
Women in babuskas and prayer veils [url]http://www.oca.org/pages/events/2004/04.April/0409WashingtonDC-Pascha/0411WashingtonDC-Pascha/images/DSC_0153.jpg[/url]
But many don't abide by the headcovering tradition [url]http://www.oca.org/pages/events/2004/04.April/0409WashingtonDC-Pascha/0411WashingtonDC-Pascha/images/DSC_0113.jpg[/url]
Also note that the Patriarch is a known opponent of tradition. This is probably why many Orthodox people pay more attention to Alexy II, Patriarch of the ROC. Orthodoxy doesn't have the structured leadership like the RCC. IOW, a Orthodox leader can make himself irrelavent if enough people don't agree with him.