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Thread ID: 15290 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2004-10-12
2004-10-12 17:37 | User Profile
ENVER, Oct. 9 - For Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, the highest-ranking Roman Catholic prelate in Colorado, there is only one way for a faithful Catholic to vote in this presidential election, for President Bush and against Senator John Kerry.
"The church says abortion is a foundational issue,'' the archbishop explained to a group of Catholic college students gathered in a sports bar here in this swing state on Friday night. He stopped short of telling them whom to vote for, but he reminded them of Mr. Kerry's support for abortion rights. And he pointed out the potential impact his re-election could have on Roe v. Wade.
"Supreme Court cases can be overturned, right?" he asked.
Archbishop Chaput, who has never explicitly endorsed a candidate, is part of a group of bishops intent on throwing the weight of the church into the elections.
Galvanized by battles against same-sex marriage and stem cell research and alarmed at the prospect of a President Kerry - who is Catholic but supports abortion rights - these bishops and like-minded Catholic groups are blanketing churches with guides identifying abortion, gay marriage and the stem cell debate as among a handful of "non-negotiable issues."
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/12/politics/campaign/12catholics.html?th[/url]
2004-10-12 19:16 | User Profile
Yes, Kerry is certainly pro-abortion. However, Dubya, who is purportedly anti-abortion, has done absolutely nothing in this area in his four years as President.
2004-10-12 19:46 | User Profile
During the second debate, Kerry was asked "Suppose you are speaking with a voter who believed abortion is murder and the voter asked for reassurance that his or her tax dollars would not go to support abortion, what would you say to that person?"
Kerry's reply: "Iââ¬Ëm a Catholic, raised a Catholic... But I canââ¬Ët take what is an article of faith for me and legislate it for someone who doesnââ¬Ët share that article of faith... You have to afford people their constitutional rights. And that means ... making certain that you donââ¬Ët deny a poor person the right to be able to have whatever the constitution affords them if they canââ¬Ët afford it otherwise."
Kerry implies that he is against abortion but then concludes that women have a constitutional right to taxpayer-funded abortions.
Elsewhere in the debate, Kerry says he'll only appoint judges who support racial discrimination against whites "equal oppertunity", abortion "woman's right to choose," and sexual discrimination against men "equal pay for women". Kerry explains, "These are constitutional rights, and I want to make sure we have judges who interpret the Constitution of the United States according to the law."
It's puke like this that really makes me home Kerry goes down in November. As evil as it is for Bush to use lies to drag America into war for Israel, as well as all the other betrayals of conserative values and the American people, he doesn't make me want to puke the way Kerry does.
2004-10-12 20:01 | User Profile
Is it really feasible that any president (or any politician, period) could bring down abortion?? C'mon, the jews know what they're doing!
Gabrielle, just wondering...who's keeping your place warm over at freerepublic.com while you're Pro-Bush rapid posting here????
2004-10-13 02:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Is it really feasible that any president (or any politician, period) could bring down abortion?? C'mon, the jews know what they're doing!
Gabrielle, just wondering...who's keeping your place warm over at freerepublic.com while you're Pro-Bush rapid posting here????[/QUOTE]
I have never been to that site.
Who's keeping your place warm at the I adore John Kerry fan club?
2004-10-13 09:28 | User Profile
The Pennsylvania Treason
By Mark Crutcher é 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
I have often asserted that, for the pro-life movement, the only practical distinction between the Democrat and Republican parties is that one is an enemy who will stab us in the chest and the other is a friend who will stab us in the back.
Tuesday's Republican primary in Pennsylvania proved my point. Hard-core abortion enthusiast Republican Arlen Specter was being challenged by pro-lifer Pat Toomey for the U.S. Senate. As the incumbent, Specter was predicted to win easily. But as Election Day approached, the polls clearly showed that Toomey was closing in fast and had a legitimate shot to pull off an upset.
That's when the GOP's power brokers pulled out the heavy guns. President George W. Bush personally rushed to Pennsylvania and implored Republicans to get behind the candidacy of ... Arlen Specter. Equally amazing, Pennsylvania's other senator, Rick Santorum, also chose to walk away from his long-espoused pro-life principles. He joined Bush on the campaign trail and urged voters to defeat the pro-life challenger.
[B]The fact that Specter's eventual margin of victory was so razor-thin made one thing absolutely undeniable. Without the influence and treachery of Bush and Santorum, we would have seen a raging pro-abort who has always been viciously hostile toward anything that the pro-life movement does replaced with a pro-lifer. [/B] Read the rest here: [url]http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38287[/url]
2004-10-13 09:34 | User Profile
Catholic Bishops Criticize Bush Policy on Embryo Research
WASHINGTON (August 9, 2001) -- Following are the remarks of Bishop Joseph A. Fiorenza, President of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, regarding President George W. Bush's statement on stem cell research.
"President Bush has reaffirmed his support for a ban on human cloning and other policies that deserve support in their own right. However, the trade-off he has announced is morally unacceptable: The federal government, for the first time in history, will support research that relies on the destruction of some defenseless human beings for the possible benefit to others. However such a decision is hedged about with qualifications, it allows our nation's research enterprise to cultivate a disrespect for human life.
[url]http://www.nccbuscc.org/comm/archives/2001/01-142.htm[/url]
2004-10-13 09:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Gabrielle, just wondering...who's keeping your place warm over at freerepublic.com while you're Pro-Bush rapid posting here????[/QUOTE]
Amen, though, as I wrote earlier, even most Freepers, unlike this poster, don't try to pretend that Bush is doing anything serious to defend the borders. Apparently her mission is to spam OD with RNC propaganda.
2004-10-13 12:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]I have never been to that site.
Who's keeping your place warm at the I adore John Kerry fan club?[/QUOTE]
I'm far from being a John Kerry fan, you bumbling sycophantic Bushmonger. What's you're angle, you foolish dilettante? What the fvck is Bush good for, but completely wrecking the world? Why such a shilling stand against John Kerry? I think that both of these men are a disgrace and I think that the jews have almost succeeded in completely destroying the USA.
Please, stop flooding the board with you're Bushit. You're preaching to the wrong crowd. Go to freerepublic.com for a warmer welcome.
2004-10-13 13:13 | User Profile
[COLOR=DarkRed] - "Please, stop flooding the board with you're Bushit. You're preaching to the wrong crowd. Go to freerepublic.com for a warmer welcome."[/COLOR]
Now now, let's calm down, boys and girls.
Based on what I've seen, I think that Gabrielle is a sincere WN, who also happens to sincerely believe that Bush is the lesser of two evils, which admittedly doesn't say much about Bush rather than what an abomination Kerry is going to be.
Even some very cool-headed White racialists like Yggdrasil have decided to "hold their nose and vote for Bush."
And Gabrielle, no need for unnecessary provocations. Your position is already unpopular enough.
Petr
2004-10-13 19:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]Even some very cool-headed White racialists like Yggdrasil have decided to "hold their nose and vote for Bush." Petr[/QUOTE]
One or two maybe, but not many. And none are using the absurd propaganda that this poster uses. Some are supporting Bush from a "worse is better" perspective, and while I can see their argument, I disagree that Kerry will be any better than Bush.
2004-10-13 21:48 | User Profile
Gabrielle has posted articles exposing the not-so-chipper side to John Kerry at Stormfront. Just articles, no aside comments, and the SF'ers have gone semi-postal because of it.